Synth Pop music with vocals? Linux sampler help?

2010-12-20 Thread Miranda Pennington
I am wondering if some people could offer me advice on how to go about
recording/creating some pop music with vocals. My boyfriend and I used to
use Sony Acid for making our humor music, but I like using Ubuntu for all my
other computing needs, so I'd like to use it for making music too.

Typically, what we would do is create a rhythm track and then he improvises
vocals and lyrics while I play the keyboards. After about ten minutes of
noodling around while recording, I take the vocals and midi data, chop it
up, organize it into a song, assign synth sounds to the midi data, process
the vocals, and record any additional instrumentation it needs to flesh it
out.

I know that I want to use Hydrogen, auto talent, sound fonts, synths, and
effects plug ins, but I'm not sure what the best sequencer or DAW would be
to use to for recording or mixing, or how to go about pulling everything
together. Do I have to use Ladish with a sequencer and a DAW and route
everything together, or can I do most of this inside of one program? I'm
thinking qtractor looks like the easiest to get a handle on, but the lack of
envelope automation for fx, panning, and volume is sort of holding me back
from using it. I use those a lot and I don't know how I would get along
without them. I also need to be able to chop up the vocals and move the
parts around fairly quickly. Also, I need to be able to save sessions so I
can work on something here and there. I've seen that Ardour will be coming
out with midi support in the future, so should I just wait to use Linux for
what I want to do until it comes out? Would Muse be able to do what I want?
I read somewhere that envelope automation is available in muse, but I
haven't been able to find any info on how to use it. I'm guessing rosegarden
could do all of this, but it looks difficult to use. Maybe that's unfair
assumption though. I'm not sure. I don't mean to sound picky, but the
interface on rosegarden looks very difficult t navigate to my eyes.

I've searched on the web for comprehensive tuts, but I'm not finding much on
my own. If anyone would be willing to blog a tut on how they put together
their music, I would be forever grateful. Even if your music is totally
different, just seeing how someone else goes about setting everything up to
make a song from start to finish would be really helpful for me and anyone
else who wants to get into Linux audio production and doesn't know where to
start.

Also, if anyone has some advice on how to get the Linux Sampler up and
running with the piano library on Ubuntu, that would help me out. I know I
need the Linux sampler back end along with jsampler or fantasia, but I
haven't had any luck getting to it to work. I also play piano and do my own
singer songwriter stuff. I would like to be able to record piano as midi
data and use Linux Sampler for the piano sound. Since it's solo piano, it
has to sound decent. How do I record it along with vocals?

Thanks for reading such a long question everyone. Your responses are
appreciated!

Here are some examples of what I and my boyfriend do (that I would lie to
accomplish with Ubuntu) -

The humor music -  http://www.myspace.com/richydynamoandthefantastics
My more serious stuff - http://www.reverbnation.com/mirandapennington
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Re: Synth Pop music with vocals? Linux sampler help?

2010-12-20 Thread Ĥod
Miranda,
I never did it, but it is possible to work with Ardour and Rosegarden,
because of JACK. I just work with Ardour, so I have no idea about how RG
works, but have you ever seen the Rosegarden`s tour at:
http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/tour/ ?

Take care
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Ĥod


2010/12/20 Miranda Pennington mirnan...@gmail.com

 I am wondering if some people could offer me advice on how to go about
 recording/creating some pop music with vocals. My boyfriend and I used to
 use Sony Acid for making our humor music, but I like using Ubuntu for all my
 other computing needs, so I'd like to use it for making music too.

 Typically, what we would do is create a rhythm track and then he improvises
 vocals and lyrics while I play the keyboards. After about ten minutes of
 noodling around while recording, I take the vocals and midi data, chop it
 up, organize it into a song, assign synth sounds to the midi data, process
 the vocals, and record any additional instrumentation it needs to flesh it
 out.

 I know that I want to use Hydrogen, auto talent, sound fonts, synths, and
 effects plug ins, but I'm not sure what the best sequencer or DAW would be
 to use to for recording or mixing, or how to go about pulling everything
 together. Do I have to use Ladish with a sequencer and a DAW and route
 everything together, or can I do most of this inside of one program? I'm
 thinking qtractor looks like the easiest to get a handle on, but the lack of
 envelope automation for fx, panning, and volume is sort of holding me back
 from using it. I use those a lot and I don't know how I would get along
 without them. I also need to be able to chop up the vocals and move the
 parts around fairly quickly. Also, I need to be able to save sessions so I
 can work on something here and there. I've seen that Ardour will be coming
 out with midi support in the future, so should I just wait to use Linux for
 what I want to do until it comes out? Would Muse be able to do what I want?
 I read somewhere that envelope automation is available in muse, but I
 haven't been able to find any info on how to use it. I'm guessing rosegarden
 could do all of this, but it looks difficult to use. Maybe that's unfair
 assumption though. I'm not sure. I don't mean to sound picky, but the
 interface on rosegarden looks very difficult t navigate to my eyes.

 I've searched on the web for comprehensive tuts, but I'm not finding much
 on my own. If anyone would be willing to blog a tut on how they put together
 their music, I would be forever grateful. Even if your music is totally
 different, just seeing how someone else goes about setting everything up to
 make a song from start to finish would be really helpful for me and anyone
 else who wants to get into Linux audio production and doesn't know where to
 start.

 Also, if anyone has some advice on how to get the Linux Sampler up and
 running with the piano library on Ubuntu, that would help me out. I know I
 need the Linux sampler back end along with jsampler or fantasia, but I
 haven't had any luck getting to it to work. I also play piano and do my own
 singer songwriter stuff. I would like to be able to record piano as midi
 data and use Linux Sampler for the piano sound. Since it's solo piano, it
 has to sound decent. How do I record it along with vocals?

 Thanks for reading such a long question everyone. Your responses are
 appreciated!

 Here are some examples of what I and my boyfriend do (that I would lie to
 accomplish with Ubuntu) -

 The humor music -  http://www.myspace.com/richydynamoandthefantastics
 My more serious stuff - http://www.reverbnation.com/mirandapennington

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Re: Synth Pop music with vocals? Linux sampler help?

2010-12-20 Thread psycho
I Use exactly this configuration, rosegarden for midi and ardour for
recording and mixing and mastering (with jamin).. all you need is to put
rosegarden as a jack slave (in preferences menu) and make ardour the master
for jack so when you record or just listen it do transport on rosegarden
too... if you're a windows user it work quite the same as reason and cubase
via rewire... so when you're happy with your midi tracks just record them in
ardour for mixing all together at this time you don't need rosegarden
anymore... i forgot to say that there is an option in rosegarden to separate
all audio channels so you can record each track separatly in ardour...
The ardour team is working a lot a maybe in the next weeks there would be an
alpha release of ardour 3 wich handles midi too... at this time Ardour will
be the greatest DAW in world 

so enjoy doing music
regards
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