Boot loaders for Linux that can also boot FreeBSD

2012-12-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf

Hi :)

my apologies for cross-posting this to several Linux mailing lists.

I need a boot loader for Linux, that is comfortable to use for my needs,
a Linux multi-boot with
trillions of Linux installs,
trillions ^ 2 kernels and
(trillions ^ 2) * 1024 entries with different boot options, so something
as GRUB 2 is unusable for my needs.

Until now I was comfortable with GRUB legacy, but now I add a FreeBSD
install to my machine and against the claims at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_boot_loaders

GRUB legacy does not boot FreeBSD (until now). I was thinking of
SYSLINUX, perhaps the most popular bootloader by Linux experts, but the
Wiki says it doesn't support booting BSD.

Since access to the freebsd-ufs partition by Linux is a PITA and Linux
is most important for me, I wont use a FreeBSD bootloader. I need easy
access to the bootloader's configuration file.

I still continue searching with Google.

Any hints are welcome!

On a FreeBSD mailing list somebody wrote:
> You might want to try a chainloader boot from grub.  The following is a
> chainloader rule that I have used, as well as a normal loader boot.  I
> use the loader boot, but I also tested the chainloader boot.  You will
> need a ufs2_stage1_5 file in your grub directory for a loader boot, and
> linux grub might not have it available.
> 
> title   FreeBSD, sda3 (oak) chainloader
> root(hd1,2)
> chainloader +1
> boot
> 
> title   FreeBSD, sda3 (oak) /boot/loader
> root(hd1,2,a)
> kernel  /boot/loader
> boot

Yes, ufs2_stage1_5 is missing, so when I tested

#title FreeBSD
#root   (hd0,a)
#kernel /boot/loader

title FreeBSD
rootnoverify (hd0,1)
chainloader +1
boot

there was no error, but nothing happened, without the chainloader an
error 17, cannot mount selected partition appeared.

I wonder that so many *NIX users nag about Windows, but support to
access Windows files and to multi-boot with Windows is that easy. I
don't have Windows on my machine. I hope somebody is experienced with
multi-boot machines using different *NIX operating systems and will help
me.

Regards,
Ralf



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Re: cannot run Adobe Reader

2012-12-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 10:28 +0100, Josep Pujadas i Jubany wrote:
> 2012/11/25 Ralf Mardorf 
> On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 00:03 +, David King wrote:
> > I installed Adobe Reader 9.5.1, but it will not run.
> >
> > The output I get from the CLI is:
> >
> > $ acroread
> > /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error
> while loading
> > shared libraries: libxml2.so.2: cannot open shared object
> file: No
> > such file or directory
> >
> >
> > I checked in Synaptic and libxml2 is installed.
> >
> > I am running Ubuntu Studio 12.04
> >
> > So why is my Adobe Reader not working? I tried uninstalling
> it,
> > downloading it again from the Adobe site, and reinstalling,
> but it did
> > not help.
> >
> >
> > David K
> 
> Perhaps an multi-architecture issue? Do you run an Ubuntu
> Studio amd64
> install? If so, is libxml2:i386 installed?
> 
> Is Adobe reader needed for something? I'm not dogmatic, I use
> proprietary software myself, but only if needed. Why do you
> want Adobe
> reader?
> 
> 
> 1. Update your sources, sudo apt-get update
> 2. Install gdebi package
> 3. Install AcroRead .deb package using gdebi. This should look for
> your dependencies.
> 4. sudo nspluginwrapper
> -i /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so
> 5. BUG. ~/C:\nppdf32Log\debuglog.txt is created when using AcroRead
> into Firefox.
> 6. BUG for 1024x600. With alacarte modify your menu entry putting env
> UBUNTU_MENUPROXY= acroread instead acroread
> 
> I made this some months ago. But now I'm not usually using AcroRead. I
> prefer evince (default program for PDF files). It's faster, free...
> 
> Josep Pujadas-Jubany


I don't know the current state of 12.04, perhaps it's as terribly broken
as 12.10 is.

If alacarte shouldn't do what it should do try the following.

I got rid of many issues by deleting ~/.cache.

On Xubuntu mailing list somebody mentioned
"I found a bug for this.  It is specific to Xubuntu.  alacarte writes
the menu file to the wrong name on Xubuntu. I just copied my
~/.config/menus/applications.menu file to xfce-applications.menu file
and it now works fine."

I didn't test that until now, I'll test FreeBSD and look out for Linux
solutions without X. Nowadays it takes 3 seconds for startup, but 30
seconds to open an email.

Desktop environments for both Ubuntu Studio and Ubuntu 12.10 are a PITA
on my machine, following other mailing lists, this is for Debian and
Arch Linux also an issue.

If the reader should be used to read PDF files only, then I also
recommend to use an open source application, but perhaps the proprietary
thingy is able to do something else.

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: [Fwd: Re: To fix the broken 12.10 release proposed updates might help]

2012-12-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 13:25 +0100, Hartmut Noack wrote:
> Really? And what about the support for the apps that you use for
> working with it?

I don't know the state of FreeBSD, hopefully I'll install it today. At
least I can help to test the driver for FreeBSD and if the driver should
work, I'll know that the card isn't broken, but it's more likely that
the card is ok.

As far as I know, FreeBSSD is less good than Linux for audio production.



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Boot loaders for Linux that can also boot FreeBSD

2012-12-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi :)

my apologies for cross-posting this to several Linux mailing lists.

I need a boot loader for Linux, that is comfortable to use for my needs,
a Linux multi-boot with
trillions of Linux installs,
trillions ^ 2 kernels and
(trillions ^ 2) * 1024 entries with different boot options, so something
as GRUB 2 is unusable for my needs.

Until now I was comfortable with GRUB legacy, but now I add a FreeBSD
install to my machine and against the claims at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_boot_loaders

GRUB legacy does not boot FreeBSD (until now). I was thinking of
SYSLINUX, perhaps the most popular bootloader by Linux experts, but the
Wiki says it doesn't support booting BSD.

Since access to the freebsd-ufs partition by Linux is a PITA and Linux
is most important for me, I wont use a FreeBSD bootloader. I need easy
access to the bootloader's configuration file.

I still continue searching with Google.

Any hints are welcome!

On a FreeBSD mailing list somebody wrote:
> You might want to try a chainloader boot from grub.  The following is a
> chainloader rule that I have used, as well as a normal loader boot.  I
> use the loader boot, but I also tested the chainloader boot.  You will
> need a ufs2_stage1_5 file in your grub directory for a loader boot, and
> linux grub might not have it available.
> 
> title   FreeBSD, sda3 (oak) chainloader
> root(hd1,2)
> chainloader +1
> boot
> 
> title   FreeBSD, sda3 (oak) /boot/loader
> root(hd1,2,a)
> kernel  /boot/loader
> boot

Yes, ufs2_stage1_5 is missing, so when I tested

#title FreeBSD
#root   (hd0,a)
#kernel /boot/loader

title FreeBSD
rootnoverify (hd0,1)
chainloader +1
boot

there was no error, but nothing happened, without the chainloader an
error 17, cannot mount selected partition appeared.

I wonder that so many *NIX users nag about Windows, but support to
access Windows files and to multi-boot with Windows is that easy. I
don't have Windows on my machine. I hope somebody is experienced with
multi-boot machines using different *NIX operating systems and will help
me.

Regards,
Ralf


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To fix the broken 12.10 release proposed updates might help

2012-12-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Not tested myself and IMO this is just a minor issue, but perhaps there
will follow more fixes in proposed updates.

I wonder if switching to another DE would help to get back a stable
desktop environment. OTOH I'm tired of unstopping switching the DE.

Btw. is there a repository to downgrade Xfce and important dependencies?

I also would like to get a downgraded version of GIMP and Evolution for
Quantal.

Is nobody on this list running into issues?

Btw. GIMP isn't buggy, it's still stable, but the workflow is broken,
too much changed.

YMMV!

 Forwarded Message 
From: Mark Trickett 
Reply-to: Xubuntu Support and User Discussions

To: xubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] update-manager not on any of the menus and
can't be put, there? (Andy Proctor)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:01:21 +0200

On 26/11/12 11:57, Mark Trickett wrote:
> Message: 1 Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 20:50:41 + From: Andy Proctor 
>  To: xubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com 
> Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] update-manager not on any of the menus 
> and can't be put there? Message-ID: <50b13321.9060...@gpshelp.co.uk> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 
> 24/11/12 18:56, Knute Johnson wrote:
>>> On 11/24/2012 10:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Sat, 2012-11-24 at 08:53 -0800, Knute Johnson wrote:
> On 11/23/2012 01:36 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> On Fri, 2012-11-23 at 20:48 +, Andy Proctor wrote:
>>> On 23/11/12 14:07, Vincent Trouilliez wrote:
>>>
 On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Knute Johnson
  wrote:
If I go into the Settings Manager, select Main Menu,
 select
a submenu (in this case System) and then attempt to 
 enable
the Software Updater (which is update-manager) 
 program on
any of the menus it disables itself in a few seconds.
 I hit
the checkbox next to update-manager and a few seconds
 later
it un-checks.  Anybody know what I'm doing wrong?


 I don't think yo are doing anything wrong: I did a clean 
 install of
 XUbuntu12.10 and appear to have the same problem !

 Actually it doesn't appear to have anything to do with the
 update-manager itself, as I tried enabling other items in the 
 system
 menu and they too disable themselves a second after I check their
 boxes !

 Definitely a good case for a bug report IMHO ! :-/

 -- 
 Vince


>>> Agree, I've tried what you said and have the same problem.
>>>
>>> Andy
>> Delete ~/.cache, I couldn't change fonts and e.g. even after editing
>> Evolution's config I couldn't change anything, because Evolution and
>> e.g. the appearance settings were used from the cache, even after
>> rebooting.
>> After deleting the cache, until now everything is ok.
>>
>> Hth,
>> Ralf
> That didn't work.  Do you need to be root to change menus?
 No, this can be done with user privileges.

 I did edit my menu with Alacarte (the app for "Main Menu") and I
 experienced that I couldn't edit all entries as wanted. I couldn't
 uncheck some, but delete them, I also couldn't add some apps that I
 deleted some time before to the same menu were they were before, 
 instead
 I had to put them to the sub menu "Other", deleting the cache indeed
 didn't help.

 :(


>>> I found a bug for this.  It is specific to Xubuntu.  alacarte writes
>>> the menu file to the wrong name on Xubuntu.  I just copied my
>>> ~/.config/menus/applications.menu file to xfce-applications.menu file
>>> and it now works fine.
>>>
>>> It is supposed to be fixed in R(can't remember) and they said there
>>> was a fix in Quantal proposed but I can't find it there. The work
>>> around is OK for now I guess.
>>>
>>> Bug #1069207
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>> Dear Knute, this workaround solves it, many thanks! I look forward to
>> the fix in a future release, till then all good!
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
> I ran into this just last night. I noticed that there's an update to 
> Alacarte (the software that is the menu item editor in Xubuntu 12.10) 
> and it's been accepted into Pre-Release Updates Proposed. So, in 
> Software Sources/Updater, I enabled backports, ran an update, and it 
> was fixed.
>
> Mark
>
>
Sorry major edit: Enable proposed updates.not backports...Apologies

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Re: To fix the broken 12.10 release proposed updates might help

2012-12-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 12:05 +0100, Hartmut Noack wrote:
> Am 26.11.2012 11:28, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
> > Not tested myself [1] and IMO this is just a minor issue, but perhaps there
> > will follow more fixes in proposed updates.
> > 
> > I wonder if switching to another DE would help to get back a stable
> > desktop environment. OTOH I'm tired of unstopping switching the DE.
> > 
> > Btw. is there a repository to downgrade Xfce and important dependencies?
> 
> Downgrading does not help for long: you do not want to keep an older
> Version of anything for more than 2-3 years, some day you will have to
> upgrade so there are only two ways to go I guess:
> 
> 1.) try to get a recent version of XFCE, GIMP etc, that is configured
> differently and thus more to your satisfaction. If you build them
> yourself from source you have a plethora of options at compile time.
> 
> 2.) switch to other software. KDE works more or less the same as good
> for me as XFCE does, if you like it leaner, try LXDE or Fluxbox. I use
> to run Fluxbox plus XFCE-panel on my main workstation and it works like
> a charm. I know that there is no substitute for GIMP though, let alone a
> similar powerful app, that comes with the classic workflow known from GIMP.
> 
> > 
> > I also would like to get a downgraded version of GIMP and Evolution for
> > Quantal.
> 
> 
> If Evolution is first and foremost you Mail-agent, I recommend
> Thunderbird. It just works, everywhere, allways...
> 
> good luck...
> 
> HZN

Thank you for the recommendations.

I wouldn't use Thunderbird, because I don't like the new style, however,
Claws does work and I like it, but that's not a help. I need access to
all my emails from the last years and so I have to use Evolution.

I switched from KDE3 to GNOME2 and from GNOME2 to Xfce. KDE4 and GNOME3
don't fit to my needs/workflow. I already was thinking of switching to
LXDE, Fluxbox never satisfied my needs, but LXDE is ok.

What happens to GIMP is a shame. It took more than 1 hour to do
something I did in some minutes using GIMP in the past.

The problem is that all the issues I've got are not related to the
distro, it's caused by upstream. At the moment I'm using Ubuntu only,
but I've got a lot of installs and I'm always ready to switch between
Ubuntu, Debian and Arch Linux. Following all mailing lists, I read that
Xfce 4.10 and some things that are independent of the DE and important
for me are broken for all distros.

I'm going to install FreeBSD 9.0, but I'm sure it can't replace Linux
for many usages and I doubt that for equal applications thinks will
differ to Linux. Support for my RME card might be better, which won't
help when audio and MIDI is less good supported. OTOH developers for
audio drivers are interested in users. I never saw a reply at ALSA users
or devel to anyone's request, when somebody had serious issues. They not
only ignore me, but they ignore everybody.

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: cannot run Adobe Reader

2012-12-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 00:03 +, David King wrote:
> I installed Adobe Reader 9.5.1, but it will not run.
> 
> The output I get from the CLI is:
> 
> $ acroread
> /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error while loading
> shared libraries: libxml2.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No
> such file or directory
> 
> 
> I checked in Synaptic and libxml2 is installed.
> 
> I am running Ubuntu Studio 12.04
> 
> So why is my Adobe Reader not working? I tried uninstalling it,
> downloading it again from the Adobe site, and reinstalling, but it did
> not help.

Perhaps an multi-architecture issue? Do you run an Ubuntu Studio amd64
install? If so, is libxml2:i386 installed?

Is Adobe reader needed for something? I'm not dogmatic, I use
proprietary software myself, but only if needed. Why do you want Adobe
reader?


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