Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] ubuntustudio and KDE
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:32 PM Mac wrote: > Hi, > > I'm not sure I'm too upset either way. > > I apologise, I did go to the archive and didn't find the beginning of this > thread...but am curious, and I do remember the early posts...but, didn't > take note: > Can you reiterate why the change to KDE is being made? > > It was all covered here: https://ubuntustudio.org/2020/04/ubuntu-studio-20-04-lts-released/ The website should be your first source of information, not a mailing list. > I will say I like the clean look of xfce and find KDE, in general, more > "candy crush"ish or "Chiclets" to look at. > The Plasma desktop we're using for 20.10 is themed exactly the same as KDE. And, if you have that opinion, it's clear you haven't even looked at Plasma in several years, perhaps even decades. There are some screenshots as to the progress made in the news section on the website, and you'll notice that the Plasma desktop for 20.10 looks nearly identical to our default Xfce for 20.04 LTS. > Also, again, just so I'm clear: I should not (when 20.10 arrives) install > UbuntuStudio 20.10 and then xfce on it (this is what I do in vanilla, > Debian, but I, of course don't have Ubuntu studio there either...). Again, > just curious, is UBS that entwined in the desktop? > > Remember: Ubuntu Studio is Ubuntu and is not entwined with a destop. For the *supported* method of installing Ubuntu Studio on a different Ubuntu flavor (therefore, desktop), see here: https://ubuntustudio.org/ubuntu-studio-installer. Long story short, you'd use Xubuntu for Xfce. Additionally, nobody is forcing you to use 20.10. 20.04 is an LTS release and is supported for 3 years. (Note: to date, I've not paid much attention to desktops in general. To be > honest I have better things to do than tweak colors, and backgrounds, etc. > I'm one of those users who don't have ANY games on my PC's...and yes, I > have far too many Linux machines on my home net...double digits. ) > > I'm going to be blunt here: you're not paying much attention in general, to either the website or to this mailing list where I've answered these questions ad-nauseum. This is literally the third time I've answered this question this week. Please read the website before posting on this mailing list in the future as all of these questions have been answered. I mean, I'm sorry to sound rude, but you're simply not paying attention to already published information and answered questions. -Erich Erich Eickmeyer Project Leader Ubuntu Studio ubuntustudio.org -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] ubuntustudio and KDE
Hi, I'm not sure I'm too upset either way. I apologise, I did go to the archive and didn't find the beginning of this thread...but am curious, and I do remember the early posts...but, didn't take note: Can you reiterate why the change to KDE is being made? I will say I like the clean look of xfce and find KDE, in general, more "candy crush"ish or "Chiclets" to look at. Also, again, just so I'm clear: I should not (when 20.10 arrives) install UbuntuStudio 20.10 and then xfce on it (this is what I do in vanilla, Debian, but I, of course don't have Ubuntu studio there either...). Again, just curious, is UBS that entwined in the desktop? (Note: to date, I've not paid much attention to desktops in general. To be honest I have better things to do than tweak colors, and backgrounds, etc. I'm one of those users who don't have ANY games on my PC's...and yes, I have far too many Linux machines on my home net...double digits. ) Regards, Mac -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] ubuntu-studio-users Digest, Vol 158, Issue 8
Isn't Applications on the desktop context menu an option in the desktop settings? On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 17:26, Doc C wrote: > Hmm, one thing that I really like is the ability to right click on the > desktop and get to my "Applications" sub-menu. I downloaded Kubuntu and > fired it up in virtualbox and it does NOT have the applications menu > available from a right click on the desktop. > > Does anybody know how easy this would be to "fix" and can we make sure > that feature is available in Ubuntu Studio as that transition occurs? > Please? > > Best, > Chris > > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 5:00 AM < > ubuntu-studio-users-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com> wrote: > >> Send ubuntu-studio-users mailing list submissions to >> ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> ubuntu-studio-users-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> ubuntu-studio-users-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-studio-users digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>1. Re: Fwd: Re: the new ubuntustudio20.04 and KDE (Glenn Holmer) >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 08:40:17 -0500 >> From: Glenn Holmer >> To: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com >> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Fwd: Re: the new ubuntustudio20.04 >> and KDE >> Message-ID: <805dfc1b-558b-d576-ccad-e8b128087...@kolabnow.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> On 6/23/20 8:19 PM, Erich Eickmeyer wrote: >> > Ubuntu Studio 20.04 LTS will remain Xfce. Support will continue until >> > April 2023. >> > >> > Ubuntu Studio 20.10 and onward will be KDE Plasma. >> >> I, for one, welcome our new Plasma overlords. >> >> -- >> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) >> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." >> -- next part -- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: cenbe.vcf >> Type: text/x-vcard >> Size: 4 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: < >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/attachments/20200624/42e8ad95/attachment-0001.vcf >> > >> >> -- >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> -- >> ubuntu-studio-users mailing list >> ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users >> >> >> -- >> >> End of ubuntu-studio-users Digest, Vol 158, Issue 8 >> *** >> > > > -- > Christopher G. Wilson, Ph.D. > Neurophysiologist > 216-346-1655 > -- > ubuntu-studio-users mailing list > ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] ubuntustudio and KDE
Sorry about the earlier email, I hit send accidentally before I was ready. Here's the complete email. I want to make this as clear as possible: NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO CHANGE. Ubuntu Studio 20.04 LTS will remain Xfce. Support will continue until April 2023. Ubuntu Studio 20.10 and onward will be KDE Plasma. *Ubuntu Studio Installer lets you put Ubuntu Studio on whatever official flavor of Ubuntu you decide, and therefore whatever Desktop Environment you decide.* For instance, to use Xfce with Ubuntu Studio 20.10 you'd install Xubuntu and then use Ubuntu Studio Installer (https://ubuntustudio.org/ubuntu-studio-installer) to install the tools and backend configurations on Xubuntu. You can do the same with Ubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu Budgie, Ubuntu Kylin, and Ubuntu MATE. At no point do we ever recommend installing an additional desktop environment on any flavor of Ubuntu as we, and other Ubuntu flavors, simply cannot support it. For those that wish to preview Ubuntu Studio with the KDE Plasma switchover complete, you can look at the Ubuntu Studio Groovy Gorilla daily images at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/current. Please stop assuming the worst. On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 9:52 AM hans Schneidhofer wrote: > hi list, > > my "problem" is not the KDE-Environment itself. But if anyone uses > ubuntustudio for 8 years in a Production-Environment, in most cases it > is not enough time, to learn a new environment during studio-jobs. > > So, with xfce I know all the knobs and places, where I can find all the > needed things and this is a really rally big advantage, if the mix has > to be finished as fast as possible and master-DVD or whatever Source > can be produced by our partner. > > In addition, studio time is still very precious and therefore scarce. > > Maybe, if some time is available I will spend this time to try aout > this KDE-Environment. But ist is not a good idea to do this during > working time. > > I hope this makes some things clearer why I am reluctant to switch from > xfce to KDE at the moment. > > thanks one more time for the hints, how to use ubuntustudio 20.4 in my > usual work environment. > > bye hans > > > -- > ubuntu-studio-users mailing list > ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] ubuntustudio and KDE
I want to make this as clear as possible: NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO CHANGE. On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 9:52 AM hans Schneidhofer wrote: > hi list, > > my "problem" is not the KDE-Environment itself. But if anyone uses > ubuntustudio for 8 years in a Production-Environment, in most cases it > is not enough time, to learn a new environment during studio-jobs. > > So, with xfce I know all the knobs and places, where I can find all the > needed things and this is a really rally big advantage, if the mix has > to be finished as fast as possible and master-DVD or whatever Source > can be produced by our partner. > > In addition, studio time is still very precious and therefore scarce. > > Maybe, if some time is available I will spend this time to try aout > this KDE-Environment. But ist is not a good idea to do this during > working time. > > I hope this makes some things clearer why I am reluctant to switch from > xfce to KDE at the moment. > > thanks one more time for the hints, how to use ubuntustudio 20.4 in my > usual work environment. > > bye hans > > > -- > ubuntu-studio-users mailing list > ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
[ubuntu-studio-users] ubuntustudio and KDE
hi list, my "problem" is not the KDE-Environment itself. But if anyone uses ubuntustudio for 8 years in a Production-Environment, in most cases it is not enough time, to learn a new environment during studio-jobs. So, with xfce I know all the knobs and places, where I can find all the needed things and this is a really rally big advantage, if the mix has to be finished as fast as possible and master-DVD or whatever Source can be produced by our partner. In addition, studio time is still very precious and therefore scarce. Maybe, if some time is available I will spend this time to try aout this KDE-Environment. But ist is not a good idea to do this during working time. I hope this makes some things clearer why I am reluctant to switch from xfce to KDE at the moment. thanks one more time for the hints, how to use ubuntustudio 20.4 in my usual work environment. bye hans -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] ubuntu-studio-users Digest, Vol 158, Issue 8
Hmm, one thing that I really like is the ability to right click on the desktop and get to my "Applications" sub-menu. I downloaded Kubuntu and fired it up in virtualbox and it does NOT have the applications menu available from a right click on the desktop. Does anybody know how easy this would be to "fix" and can we make sure that feature is available in Ubuntu Studio as that transition occurs? Please? Best, Chris On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 5:00 AM < ubuntu-studio-users-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com> wrote: > Send ubuntu-studio-users mailing list submissions to > ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ubuntu-studio-users-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ubuntu-studio-users-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-studio-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: Fwd: Re: the new ubuntustudio20.04 and KDE (Glenn Holmer) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 08:40:17 -0500 > From: Glenn Holmer > To: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Fwd: Re: the new ubuntustudio20.04 > and KDE > Message-ID: <805dfc1b-558b-d576-ccad-e8b128087...@kolabnow.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On 6/23/20 8:19 PM, Erich Eickmeyer wrote: > > Ubuntu Studio 20.04 LTS will remain Xfce. Support will continue until > > April 2023. > > > > Ubuntu Studio 20.10 and onward will be KDE Plasma. > > I, for one, welcome our new Plasma overlords. > > -- > Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) > "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe." > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: cenbe.vcf > Type: text/x-vcard > Size: 4 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/attachments/20200624/42e8ad95/attachment-0001.vcf > > > > -- > > Subject: Digest Footer > > -- > ubuntu-studio-users mailing list > ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > > > -- > > End of ubuntu-studio-users Digest, Vol 158, Issue 8 > *** > -- Christopher G. Wilson, Ph.D. Neurophysiologist 216-346-1655 -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
