Re: No sound from Midi Keyboard via USB
Hi, first of allthanks for your answer. > MIDI isn't a protocol for sound and MIDI devices don't generate sound, > the Oxygen 8 is a controller keyboard. I am aware of this - I am sorry if I didn't mention this. > If your Oxygen 8 isn't connected to a software synthesizer on your > computer (such as a DSSI synth or a soundfont engine in Rosegarden) or a > hardware synth or sound module, you'll never hear anything, whether > connected with a DIN connector or MIDI over USB. Well, as I am beginner in midi, I just thought that I might get a sound when having chosed "General MIDI Device" and under it "Acoustic Grand Piano" in the section "Wiedergabeparameter". I just assumed that somehow, Rosegarden has integrated a software synth here. Am I completely wrong? Anyhow, when I select "Synth Plugin" under "Wiedergabeparameter" and then eg "Xsynth DSSI plugin" as Paramter for the instrument, I perfectly hear something. Also, I am able to get sound via ZynAddSubFX. But I still want to understand how rosegarden is working here - can somebody please explain me where my brain went wrong? Greets, Dennis -- NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurück-Garantie! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working
I just noticed something a little bit strange. I booted into my Windows just to see if the soundcard is working there. And when I look into the settings, I did see the following: - Windows is using the device "S/PDIF" Output from the Delta 66 as standard output device. - in the M-Audio mixer, the settings are as follows: SPDIF-Output-source: "sw rtn" 1/2 out: Mixer I noticed that when I am changing the output of "spdif out" to "mixer", I have quite the same situation as under Linux: I can see the level-meters of "spdif out" and the "master" moving, but no output. This only changes when I set "spdif out" to "sw rtn" and "1/2 out" to "mixer" Now the problem: I can´t really transfer "sw rtn" onto my Linux system, because we have other names for that here. But perhaps this helps to find the cause? So is there any way to configure this under Linux? I am quite confused now, because the terms are different in both OS. Perhaps somebody can help here and clear up the fog of terms? Regards, Dennis -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 -- Nur bis 16.03.! DSL-Komplettanschluss inkl. WLAN-Modem für nur 17,95 ¿/mtl. + 1 Monat gratis!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Fwd: Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working
I just noticed something a little bit strange. I booted into my Windows just to see if the soundcard is working there. And when I look into the settings, I did see the following: - Windows is using the device "S/PDIF" Output from the Delta 66 as standard output device. - in the M-Audio mixer, the settings are as follows: SPDIF-Output-source: "sw rtn" 1/2 out: Mixer I noticed that when I am changing the output of "spdif out" to "mixer", I have quite the same situation as under Linux: I can see the level-meters of "spdif out" and the "master" moving, but no output. This only changes when I set "spdif out" to "sw rtn" and "1/2 out" to "mixer" Now the problem: I can´t really transfer "sw rtn" onto my Linux system, because we have other names for that here. But perhaps this helps to find the cause? So is there any way to configure this under Linux? I am quite confused now, because the terms are different in both OS. Perhaps somebody can help here and clear up the fog of terms? Regards, Dennis -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working
> Can you check in Envy24 to see if your monitor inputs are unmuted? They seem to be unmunted: They are light grey, not dark grey. But this leads us to another point: Should I see any level moving here? I don't think so, because on the "monitor inputs" I can control the 4 hardware inputs of the break out box plus the 2 spdif inputs, as far as I see. Or am I wrong? Anyway, for today, I think I should switch my PC off, because I'm really getting desperate. I was thinking about what can be done about this and I just wanted to propose that if any of you would like to check this on my PC, I would be willing to give ssh access to it. Regards, Dennis -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working
> One other thing. Is pulseaudio running. You might try typing 'killall > pulseaudio' in a terminal and then test again. The idea was good: $ ps aux | grep pulse michael 5904 0.0 0.4 140344 8552 ?Sl 18:15 0:00 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --log-target=syslog michael 5912 0.0 0.1 55680 2632 ?S18:15 0:00 /usr/lib/pulseaudio/pulse/gconf-helper michael 6585 0.0 0.0 5176 864 pts/2S+ 18:53 0:00 grep pulse $ killall -9 pulseaudio $ ps aux | grep pulse michael 6595 0.0 0.0 5172 852 pts/2S+ 18:53 0:00 grep pulse But... still no sound output... :( Regards, Dennis -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working
Hi all, > Personally, i wouldn't send back your card. The M-audio hardware has > stable > and reliable drivers (modules) in linux, and there's plenty of users who > have much success with them, me included. (Mine's a Delta 44, but the > Ice1712 module is still the same) So sounds good... I keep on hoping, but right now, I am close to give up... > The fact you're getting a signal in Envy24 is a good sign. So follow the > signal. Up to Envy24, you have success, as the meters show. Daniel quite > rightly suggested you check your ADCs and DACs. Do so, and put them up to > a > reasonable level. Next, if you're getting a signal in the digital mixer > strip, that's good too, it means the signal is getting that far. > > In the patchbay/router tab of Envy 24, make sure you have ticked: > > PCM Out 1, PCM Out 2, etc.. I checked this, all options on the top are activated. > And in the Analog Volume tab, lift the levels to something reasonable that > won't be too soft to hear, or conversly, frighten the neighbours. 90 would > probably do here to begin with. > Try your sound again. I did this, too... > If successful, excellent. No, unfortunately, not. Here a few questions: What are your settings in the system setup (where you can select standard devices for playback of sound, videos etc)? Additionally, I tried to use alsamixer, but no matter what I did - no output. > So to a test app. Audacity is't a good choice. What I did is to play the mp3-file with both mpg123 and mpg123-alsa. No sound... :( > If you're on UBStudio (and i assume this from the list heading), then i > suggest you download through synpatic, a simple synth to test with. When i > first started figuring out how to use Linux Audio, i used an app call > Hexter. It's a simple DX7 emulator, and possesses single audio out and > midi > in, and importantly, gives you an immediate response, be it success or > temporary failure, because it's a synth, and doesn't require extra sound > libraries or soundfonts. Well, I guess if I don't even get an mp3 file to play, I shouldn't start with any recording or playback software delivered with ubuntu studio... > So how do you hook your midi keyboard into Hexter? Not at all - because I do not own a midi keyboard till now. I only want to record my bass guitar. And, btw, I don't get any signal on the inputs as well shown in envy > At kernel level, you'll find Alsa, and your ice1712 module is inserted > there. $ lsmod | grep 1712 snd_ice171274336 2 snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx 5888 1 snd_ice1712 snd_ak4xxx_adda10880 2 snd_ice1712,snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx snd_cs8427 11904 1 snd_ice1712 snd_ac97_codec123992 1 snd_ice1712 snd_pcm93320 4 snd_ice1712,snd_ac97_codec,snd_usb_audio,snd_pcm_oss snd_i2c 7936 2 snd_ice1712,snd_cs8427 snd_mpu401_uart11392 1 snd_ice1712 snd71880 26 snd_rtctimer,snd_ice1712,snd_ak4xxx_adda,snd_cs8427,snd_ac97_codec,snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,snd_pcm_oss,snd_hwdep,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_i2c,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device So I guess this sould work?!? > But a level above that is the mighty Jack, a powerful 'Hub' that enables > you > have several apps, or 'clients' working together at the same time. Jack > intereacts with Alsa using a 'backend', which is the software sound device > of your choice, be it Alsa, oss, Ffado, Freebob, or dummy. > So the next step is to install, from Synaptic, Jackd, and Qjackctl. This > will give you not only the Jack Hub, or Server, as it's called, but a user > interface in the form of Qjackctl (Also known as Jack Control). Well, jack comes afterwards. If I don't get any output right now, I won be successful with jack in any way, or? That's why I believe we first have to get sound output working at all and then go to jack - or am I wrong? > p.s. Setting up audio/midi in linux in general isn't as difficult as it > looks. It's just different, and requires a little thought and patience on > the part of the user. > And we've all been where you are now. :) I really want to believe you - but if you see that all people owning the same soundcard as you do and they do get output through speakers while I don't... Well, I beginn to get crazy a little bit now. But perhaps we find the cause? I really hope so. Regards, Dennis -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working
> I've never been able to get audacity to work right on my machine using a > Delta 1010lt. Okay, but I tried to get an Output with Audacious, with mp123, with mpg123-alsa... Nothing, everytime the same result: The level-meters show a signal, but nothing is coming out of speakers... Does anyone have an idea? Background: I can send back the soundcard if it does not work. So already now the second question: If the M-Audio 66 is not the only card you would suggest, what else may I buy and works under Linux? I know that you certainly will support me here to get this working, but from my point of view, it does not really help me nor do all of you have the time to look what's wrong on my system... I'd prefer to et it working, yes, but if there is another card for recording that works out of the box on ubuntu studio, well, then the solution is quite near! Regards, Dennis -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working
> Dennis, > In your Envy24 pic you have the pcm out sliders muted. Try unmuting them > and > see what happens. Well, I tried pressing them several times, but nothing came out of my speakers.Still, I get a signal shown on the left "Digital Mixer". I guess it may related to the outputs of Audacity and the settings of the patchbay in envy. But I am not quite sure about these, perhaps you may support me here? Regards, Dennis -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working
Hello list, I just got my M-Audio Delta 66 soundcard today and I got it in my system. Now, I tried to get it work, but I just can get something out of the card. So let's begin with the details. I disabled the on-board soundcard in BIOS and rebooted. So lets see: $ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 Host Bridge 00:02.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express Graphics Port 0) 00:12.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI0) 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI1) 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI2) 00:13.3 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI3) 00:13.4 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI4) 00:13.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB Controller (EHCI) 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 14) 00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 IDE 00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge 00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8800 GT (rev a2) 02:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller (rev 02) 02:0e.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB23 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link) 02:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8110SC/8169SC Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10) I am not quite sure, but there is a PCI Multi-Channel card which should be mine. As I saw on the m-audio site that drivers for this card are available from opensound.com, I downloaded the file " oss-linux-4.1-1051_amd64.deb" there and installed it. So far, so good. Now, next goal would be that the soundcard is giving out something via one of the 4 outputs. And this is were I fail. So lets see: $ ossinfo Version info: OSS 4.1 (b 1051/200812302211) (0x00040100) Platform: Linux/x86_64 2.6.24-23-rt #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Mon Jan 26 02:32:55 UTC 2009 (mick-recstudio) Number of audio devices:10 Number of audio engines:10 Number of mixer devices:2 Device objects 0: osscore0 OSS core services 1: oss_envy240 M Audio Delta 66 interrupts=1704919 (1704919) 2: oss_usb0 USB audio core services 3: usb046d08b2-0 Logitec Quickcam Pro 4000 (mic) 4: usb046d08b2-1 Logitec Quickcam Pro 4000 (mic) Mixer devices 0: M Audio Delta 66 (Mixer 0 of device object 1) 1: Logitec Quickcam Pro 4000 (mic) (Mixer 0 of device object 3) Audio devices M Audio Delta 66 out1/2 /dev/oss/oss_envy240/pcm0 (device index 0) M Audio Delta 66 out3/4 /dev/oss/oss_envy240/pcm1 (device index 1) M Audio Delta 66 S/PDIF out /dev/oss/oss_envy240/spdout (device index 2) M Audio Delta 66 in1/2/dev/oss/oss_envy240/pcmin0 (device index 3) M Audio Delta 66 in3/4/dev/oss/oss_envy240/pcmin1 (device index 4) M Audio Delta 66 S/PDIF in/dev/oss/oss_envy240/spdin (device index 5) M Audio Delta 66 input from mon. mixer /dev/oss/oss_envy240/mon (device index 6) M Audio Delta 66 (all outputs)/dev/oss/oss_envy240/10ch_out (device index 7) M Audio Delta 66 (all inputs) /dev/oss/oss_envy240/12ch_in (device index 8) Logitec Quickcam Pro 4000 (mic) rec /dev/oss/usb046d08b2-1/pcmin0 (device index 9) Ah, the soundcard is correctly detected. So I start $ ossxmix and, in another bash $ osstest In ossxmix, I see that something is happening, but I can't hear something via speakers or headphones. I guess it has to do something with jackd, but as I am not quite into the basics, perhaps somebody could tell me what I am doing wrong? Thanks a lot Regards, Dennis -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Recommendation for Soundcard
> One more thing, remember disable from BIOS your motherboard's built-in > audio. Makes things much more easier to manage when you got just Delta > 66. I have done that for both machines. Thanks for this info - I guess I would have done that after losing overview of integrated sound devices, but knowing it from start is quite good. I just ordered the Delta 66, now I can't wait to start... And thanks again - your help is amazing. And it's quite amazing that finnish people are also ordering at Thomann. If you did not go in their shop (I mean the "real life shop") I can only recommend you should do this once in your lifetime. It's amazing! Regards, Dennis -- Computer Bild Tarifsieger! GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 17,95 ¿/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Recommendation for Soundcard
> Yes, Delta 66 has support for MIDI. I have simple MIDI keyboard, M-Audio > Keystation 49e. It has USB cable and Delta 66/jackd do the rest. Okay, all right. Thanks a lot for all your support, I really appreciate it! Regards, Dennis -- Computer Bild Tarifsieger! GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 17,95 ¿/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Recommendation for Soundcard
> It includes everything, you just need few normal bass/guitar 1/4" cables > for a mixer or pod. ... and of course some bass guitars :) > "The M-Audio Delta 1010 is, in my opinion, one of the finest PCI audio > interfaces for the money (about US $400) available today. The Delta 1010 > has 8 analog inputs and 8 analog outputs, along with a pair of digital > I/Os and MIDI jacks. The sound quality is fantastic and the free Linux > drivers support the card's great low-latency." Wait, here I didn't get something, I guess. In the 1010 description, MIDI support is mentioned, while in the 66, this is not mentioned. Does this mean that the 66 does not support MIDI at all (you said that you use MIDI with the 66, so this seems to work, but I rather ask to make sure)? Regards, Dennis -- Computer Bild Tarifsieger! GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 17,95 ¿/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Recommendation for Soundcard
Hi, thanks for this info - looks good, I think I will click on "buy now" :) One question left, because I could not read what is included in the package of the Delta 66: Are there any additional cables I should also get? Regards, Dennis Original-Nachricht > Datum: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 10:24:49 +0200 > Von: Asmo Koskinen > An: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion > > Betreff: Re: Recommendation for Soundcard > dennism...@gmx.net kirjoitti: > > > Ah, an btw: I live in germany (this could be important, I think). > > I have two machines, both have M-Audio Delta 66 - works perfectly with > Ardour (+mixer+pod+guitar/bass/microphone and > Hexter/Rosegarden(midi+keyboard). > > http://www.thomann.de/de/m-audio_delta_66.htm > > Best reagrds Asmo Koskinen. > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Recommendation for Soundcard
Hello, I thought it might be a good idea to ask here which soundcard I should buy before just getting any. So here are the things I want to do with my Ubuntu-Studio 8.04 on my AMD 64: I need a soundcard where I can plug my bass guitar in - directly or via a effect device. I will then record my bass tracks to the rest of the band (I will get the rest as mp3 or wav). Optionally, what would be good, is that I could use MIDI with my effect device, so I need a piece of hardware that possibly supports MIDI. Ah, an btw: I live in germany (this could be important, I think). Can anybody please give me an advice what to buy? Thanks a lot. Regards, Dennis -- Computer Bild Tarifsieger! GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 17,95 ¿/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users