Re: [Ardour-Users] Suggestions please

2010-11-17 Thread Jeremy Jongepier
On 11/17/2010 07:44 AM, christ...@shamanbenefit.net wrote:
> Here are some experimental linux drivers for Line6 devices:
> http://www.tanzband-scream.at/line6/
> The X3 Live doesn't seem to be supported yet, but it may be worth a try 
> anyway.

Those drivers are already in Ubuntu for a while now:

modinfo line6usb
filename:
/lib/modules/2.6.32-25-generic/kernel/drivers/staging/line6/line6usb.ko
version:0.8.0
license:GPL
description:Line6 USB Driver
author: Markus Grabner 
srcversion: 052F62348028DE82E34C9C3
alias:  usb:v0E41p534Dd*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*
alias:  usb:v0E41p4142d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*
alias:  usb:v0E41p4141d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*
alias:  usb:v0E41p4147d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*
alias:  usb:v0E41p5050d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*
alias:  usb:v0E41p4650d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*
alias:  usb:v0E41p5044d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*
alias:  usb:v0E41p414Bd*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*
alias:  usb:v0E41p414Ad*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*
alias:  usb:v0E41p5051d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*
alias:  usb:v0E41p4750d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*
alias:  usb:v0E41p4252d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*
alias:  usb:v0E41p4642d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*
alias:  usb:v0E41p4250d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*
depends:snd-pcm,snd,snd-rawmidi
staging:Y
vermagic:   2.6.32-25-generic SMP mod_unload modversions 586

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Re: trying to run my firepod

2010-11-01 Thread Jeremy Jongepier
On 10/30/2010 07:38 PM, mentoj dija wrote:
> hello list,
>
> my firepod arrived today, hell yea!
>
> but now, the challange to keep it running.
>
> so i found this website
> (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=522738) with some instructions
> how to do it.
>
> *-install a realtime kernel:* obviously there is no one in the standart
> installation. so i just skiped this point. i only want to record and
> dont care for long delays.
>

What is the output of cat /proc/interrupts ?

> *- Obtain/checkfor FW lib and raw1394: *the libraw1394-11 is installed.
> i'm not sure what to do with this FW lib. but i also installed the
> package libfreebob0 which seemed to be important
>

If you want to use a FireWire soundcard you need libraw1394 which will
create a raw1394 device node. Without FFADO won't work, it needs this
device node.

> *- Set permissions for raw1394 for GROUP="audio"*: thats where i got
> stuck now. don't know what to do. is there a file "raw1394"?
>

Install the package ubuntu-studio-controls, this tool will allow you to
set the right permissions. What it does is adding the raw1394 kernel
module to /etc/modules and it adds some lines to
/lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules so any user of the audio group
can use the aforementioned raw1394 device node.

> *- Enable/check user for group audio:* group already exists. but enable
> it for what?
>

Your user account with which you want to use the FireWire soundcard has
to be a member of the audio group on your system.

> then i filled in all these listed jack settings. i also enabled the
> raw1394 access at ubuntu-studio-control. but jack is not working at all.
> it stops with the message:
>
> Cannot connect to server socket
>
> jack server is not running or cannot be started
>
>
> before i did all that i tried the "firewire"-driver instead of
> "firebob". and it worked. but with to much x-runs. so ich changed
> settings and stuff, and now, its also not working with this
> firewire-driver ;-)
>

You need the firewire driver, freebob is deprecated and only there for
legacy reasons (or a living proof of the developer's procrastination ;) )

>
> so is there a very simple thing i have to do?
>

You were already mentioning downgrading to 10.04. That might not be such
a bad idea, with 10.04 you have a access to multimedia PPA's like the
ones from philip5, FalkTX and AutoStatic. Besides, 10.04 has a real-time
kernel.

Best,

Jeremy

PS, I've resent this mail because my first mail didn't get through

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Re: trying to run my firepod

2010-10-31 Thread Jeremy Jongepier
On 10/30/2010 07:38 PM, mentoj dija wrote:
> hello list,
>
> my firepod arrived today, hell yea!
>
> but now, the challange to keep it running.
>
> so i found this website
> (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=522738) with some instructions
> how to do it.
>
> *-install a realtime kernel:* obviously there is no one in the standart
> installation. so i just skiped this point. i only want to record and
> dont care for long delays.
>

What is the output of cat /proc/interrupts ?

> *- Obtain/checkfor FW lib and raw1394: *the libraw1394-11 is installed.
> i'm not sure what to do with this FW lib. but i also installed the
> package libfreebob0 which seemed to be important
>

If you want to use a FireWire soundcard you need libraw1394 which will 
create a raw1394 device node. Without FFADO won't work, it needs this 
device node.

> *- Set permissions for raw1394 for GROUP="audio"*: thats where i got
> stuck now. don't know what to do. is there a file "raw1394"?
>

Install the package ubuntu-studio-controls, this tool will allow you to 
set the right permissions. What it does is adding the raw1394 kernel 
module to /etc/modules and it adds some lines to 
/lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules so any user of the audio group 
can use the aforementioned raw1394 device node.

> *- Enable/check user for group audio:* group already exists. but enable
> it for what?
>

Your user account with which you want to use the FireWire soundcard has 
to be a member of the audio group on your system.

> then i filled in all these listed jack settings. i also enabled the
> raw1394 access at ubuntu-studio-control. but jack is not working at all.
> it stops with the message:
>
> Cannot connect to server socket
>
> jack server is not running or cannot be started
>
>
> before i did all that i tried the "firewire"-driver instead of
> "firebob". and it worked. but with to much x-runs. so ich changed
> settings and stuff, and now, its also not working with this
> firewire-driver ;-)
>

You need the firewire driver, freebob is deprecated and only there for 
legacy reasons (or a living proof of the developer's procrastination ;) )

>
> so is there a very simple thing i have to do?
>

You were already mentioning downgrading to 10.04. That might not be such 
a bad idea, with 10.04 you have a access to multimedia PPA's like the 
ones from philip5, FalkTX and AutoStatic. Besides, 10.04 has a real-time 
kernel.

Best,

Jeremy

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Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty

2010-10-31 Thread Jeremy Jongepier
On 10/30/2010 07:09 PM, Hartmut Noack wrote:
> Am 29.10.2010 23:36, schrieb Scott Lavender:
>> Hello again.
>>
>
>>
>> For those who are interesting, and I would hope most would be, you can find
>> the task and workflow wiki page at:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows
>>
> I have added a workflow for video-postproduction. Comments welcome :-)
>
>> All users are encouraging to peruse this page and add their contributions!
>> We only ask that if you have a differing workflow that one that is already
>> extant, please add yours as an "alternative" and do not remove the other.
>>
>> Before going further I want to explain more about what I mean when I use the
>> term "package set".  This term is a reference to the applications installed
>> by default with Ubuntu Studio.  These packages are NOT being removed from
>> the archives.  You can always install these packages at any time, by any
>> method of choice.  We are only discussing the inclusion of these package on
>> the Ubuntu Studio ISO.
>>
>> Right.  Now that we have that out of the way, I want to inform you how the
>> currently installed package set will change for Natty.
>>
>> These will be "new" packages (or applications) installed by default when
>> installing Ubuntu Studio:
>>   * guitarix
>>   * hydrogen-drumkits
>>   * lashd
>>   * mscore (to replaces denemo and lilypond)
>>   * phasex
>>   * qtractor (to replace seq24)
>
> Qtractor is by no means a replacement for seq24. It is just a completely
> different application.
> Seq24 is a pattern-oriented sequencer taht can be used for
> live-performance in ways that qtractor cannot be used and is not
> intended to be used.
> I would consider it a big mistake to remove Seq24. To replace it with
> qtractor would be like replacing a helicopter with an Airbus.
>

Same here, Qtractor is a multi-track recorder/MIDI composition tool 
while Seq24 is a pattern based sequencer. Some of the most amazing stuff 
made on GNU/Linux is done with Seq24.

>>   * specimen
>>   * whysynth
>>   * yoshimi (to replace zynaddsubfx)
>>
>> These are packages (or applications) that are currently included with Ubuntu
>> Studio, but will no longer be:
>>   * aconnectgui
>>   * audacity
>
> I find this logical since Audacity does not fit very well into Jack.
> Still I wonder what would be the replacement for it (Ardour for more
> sophisticated waveediting and Mhawaveedit for simle tasks could be a
> sane recommendation for Audacity-users I guess.
>

It really is a shame Rezound isn't actively being developed/maintained 
anymore. And the Audacity team should really take a look at implementing 
direct JACK support instead of using PortAudio.

>>   * beast
>>   * bitscope
>>   * bristol
>>   * csound
>>   * denemo (replaced by mscore)
>>   * freebirth
>>   * freqtweak
>>   * genpo
>>   * jackeq
>>   * jacktools
>>   * jdelay
>>   * lillypond (replaced by mscore)
>>   * lmms
>
> LMMS has a unique concept in terms of usage and workflow that is *not*
> doubled by qtractor. I'd recommend to keep it.
>

Same here too. LMMS aims at being an all-in-one solution which makes it 
stand out and also very usable for someone coming from another platform 
where monolithic apps are more widespread.

>>   * mixxx
>>   * muse
>>   * qamix
>>   * seq24 (replaced by qtractor)
>
> see above - I strongly recommend to keep Seq24.
>

And why Mixxx? It is one of the best DJ mixer apps available, if not the 
best.

>>   * terminatorx
>>   * timemachine
>
> Many like timemachine and will be disappointed not to find it
> automatically installed. Though I would not consider it essential.
>
> best regs
>
> HZN/berlin
>
>>   * timidity
>>   * tk707
>>   * xwax
>>   * zynaddsubfx
>>
>> Again, the goal is to make Ubuntu Studio more effective and proficient, in
>> essence more useful.  Users want to accomplish a task (e.g. mix a song), not
>> just run an application.  The current status of the package set (
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageSelectionDevelopment) was
>> developed to assist users accomplish tasks.
>>
>> If an application is listed to no longer be included with Ubuntu Studio but
>> you want it to be, then please identify a task that requires it and develop
>> a workflow at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows
>>
>> This is your chance to directly influence which applications are included
>> with Ubuntu Studio.
>>
>> ScottL
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Intel DG41TY 5.1 sound system

2010-10-16 Thread Jeremy Jongepier
On 10/16/2010 08:37 PM, Fábio Magnoni wrote:
> Hello Mike,
>
> Thanks for your help, but I tried and didn't work.
>
> I remeber that on Ubuntu 9.10 my 5.1 worked, since 10.04 it doesn't work

Hello Fábio,

Try the linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic package.
And what does aplay -l output? And lspci | grep -i audio ?

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Re: Problem with Ardour!!!

2010-10-16 Thread Jeremy Jongepier
On 10/16/2010 06:46 PM, Fábio Magnoni wrote:
> On Jack Control, appears the Line6 USB, and shows X3 Live, I've select but
> nothing happens. I've never open Ardour 'cause it says that I must configure
> jack =/
>

Hello Fábio,

The Line6 kernel module does not support the Pod X3 Live. So the Pod X3 
just won't work with Ubuntu.

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Re: Last call (was "Natty and RT Kernel)

2010-10-05 Thread Jeremy Jongepier
On 10/04/2010 04:27 PM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> If you would want help in kernel stuff for Ubuntu Studio please reply
> to these questions:
> 
> Which are kernels on you are interested in? The -rt, -lowlatency or -realtime?

-rt or -realtime.

> Which kernels you use on per day basis (so you can provide at least
> test and feedback)?

I use 2.6.31-11-rt on a daily basis, at home and at work.

> How do you would want help (test, packaging, upstream relation, Ubuntu
> relation, Studio relation and so on)?

I can test and if I'm confident enough with my packaging skills (still
need to learn A LOT!) I could help packaging.

> Which Ubuntu releases do you would want see well supported for
> that/those kernels? Every releases or only LTS?

If possible every release. I know it's a lot of work and the community
is small but if you want to put Ubuntu Studio firmly on the map and
attract new users I think it's best to aim high and try working on
kernels for each release.

> 
> Please reply only if you want help.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ciao,
> Alessio
> 

Best,

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Re: Missing initrd when building a kernel-rt

2010-10-04 Thread Jeremy Jongepier
On 10/04/2010 10:40 AM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote:
> 2010/10/4 Jeremy Jongepier :
>> On 10/03/2010 07:41 AM, Ralf wrote:
>>> spinymo...@ubuntu:/usr/src/linux$ make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd
>>
>> Hmm, and what if you try fakeroot make-kpg --initrd kernel-image
>> kernel-headers kernel-source ? Shouldn't make a difference though I think.
> 
> Ubuntu don't support make-pkg.
> 
> Ciao,
> Alessio
> 

Hello Alessio,

As of which release? I've built several kernels with make-kpkg for 9.04
and 9.10 (to include dsdt tables for my netbook). Haven't tried with
10.04 though.

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Re: Missing initrd when building a kernel-rt

2010-10-04 Thread Jeremy Jongepier
On 10/03/2010 07:41 AM, Ralf wrote:
> spinymo...@ubuntu:/usr/src/linux$ make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd

Hmm, and what if you try fakeroot make-kpg --initrd kernel-image
kernel-headers kernel-source ? Shouldn't make a difference though I think.

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Re: Real-time kernels from the Ubuntu Studio Lucid repositories

2010-10-02 Thread Jeremy Jongepier
On 10/02/2010 05:13 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> 2.6.31-11-rt ends in tty1
> 2.6.31-10-rt ends also in tty1, for this kernel I logged in and run

Did you try the proprietary nvidia driver?

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Re: Real-time kernels from the Ubuntu Studio Lucid repositories

2010-10-02 Thread Jeremy Jongepier
On 10/02/2010 04:18 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> No, as I've posted before, after the message it ends in tty1, asking me
> to log in.

So it does continu booting, except that it cannot start X. What kind of 
GPU do you have?

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Re: Real-time kernels from the Ubuntu Studio Lucid repositories

2010-10-02 Thread Jeremy Jongepier
On 10/02/2010 03:06 PM, Ralf wrote:
> When I try to boot 2.6.31-10-rt I
> get the message 'No such device' on startup. The entry for grub.cfg is
> ok [1].
>
> It's the same for 2.6.31-11-rt.

But does it continue booting? Regarding the 'No such device' warning: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-rt/+bug/599396

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Re: The different realtime kernels

2010-09-30 Thread Jeremy Jongepier
On 09/30/2010 08:40 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 13:25 -0500, Scott Lavender wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Ralf Mardorf
>>   wrote:
>>  On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 17:15 +0100, Ricardo Lameiro wrote:
>>  >  I agree with you. I think the best compromise is to use the
>>  Hard RT
>>  >  kernel patch on top of vanilla kernel, and have the Generic
>>  kernel for
>>  >  everyday usage.
>>  >  You can choose which kernel to boot from at the beginning,
>>
>>
>>  I only use vanilla + rt-patched kernels for audio-video and
>>  everyday
>>  usage. The only difference is the CPU frequency scaling. For
>>  everyday
>>  usage I set it to ondemand and for audio-video work to
>>  performance and
>>  sometimes I manually enable hr timer when doing MIDI work.
>>
>>  IMO just a kernl-rt is needed, but as I mentioned before,
>>  people running
>>  32-bit architecture might need a patch to enable usage of
>>  large RAM.
>>
>>  But indeed, GRUB is our friend, we are free to use several
>>  kernels. OT:
>>  GRUB is a little bit more user-friendly than GRUB2 is ;).
>>
>>  >  Hard RT kernel, should be the only one to be supported,
>>  since it is
>>  >  the kernel that brings more benefits to audio/video
>>  production, If we
>>  >  spread attention with 2 more kernel flavours, no one can
>>  support it,
>>  >  and lets face it, abogani makes a hell of a good job, so we
>>  should
>>  >  simplify is life :D
>>
>>
>>  Hm, on my Ubuntu Studio, neither Abogani's, anyone else or my
>>  own build
>>  kernel-rt are ok :(. I can't boot any kernel-rt.
>>
>>  I'm able to run Suse with my self build kernel-rt, but not
>>  with the
>>  repositories once and I'm able to run 64 Studio (Hardy,
>>  Karmic) with
>>  kernel-rt from the repositories and self build kernels.
>>
>>  Live CDs, e.g. AV Linux are ok with the kernel-rt.
>>
>>  Anyway, the rt-patch could be a PITA, while the PREEMPT only
>>  kernel for
>>  Ubuntu Studio is ok on my machine, as far as a PREEMPT only
>>  kernel is
>>  able to do some jobs, but I'm able to boot the kernel.
>>
>>  IMO we only should take care of the kernel-rt and no other
>>  kernel.
>>  Hard disk drives today are less expensive so everybody should
>>  be able to
>>  install a distro for audio-video usage and if needed other
>>  distros for
>>  other usages, because not only the kernel makes a different.
>>  IMO a DAW
>>  e.g. don't need the security that's needed for some other
>>  usages.
>>
>>  I'm running several Linux, no Windows, on my 2 core AMD 64-bit
>>  PC, for
>>  everyday usage and audio-MIDI productions, all Linux with
>>  kernel-rt
>>  only, excepted Ubuntu Studio, because I didn't had the time to
>>  troubleshoot why I'm unable to boot a kernel-rt for Ubuntu
>>  Studio.
>>
>>  I prefer 64 Studio, but I really like Suse and Ubuntu Studio
>>  too, of
>>  course there are some other good distros, but those three are
>>  my
>>  favourites, even if Ubuntu Studio until today isn't ready for
>>  production.
>>  I like the concept of Ubuntu Studio, excepted of the default
>>  PREEMPT
>>  kernel, without rt-patch.
>>
>>  This are just my personal 2 cents, the advantage of Linux,
>>  that we do
>>  have a lot of different paths we could go, even if it
>>  sometimes seems to
>>  be a disadvantage.
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> This isn't necessarily addressed to Ralf, but it ties in with the
>> comments in his email.
>>
>> Ubuntu Studio as a project makes far fewer decisions that people
>> probably expect.  The kernel is a good example.
>>
>> The Ubuntu Studio team did not decide to remove the -rt kernel from
>> the ISO image because we think it is inferior or that another kernel
>> performs better.  We would like to still be able to provide it to our
>> users because we understand that it yields performance that other
>> kernels cannot provide.  We can no longer provide the -rt kernel in
>> the ISO image because it is no longer in the official archives.
>>
>> Ubuntu Studio exists and must maneuver within Canonical/Ubuntu
>> ecosphere.  And sometimes decisions are made by Canonical or Ubuntu
>> that grossly affect Ubuntu Studio.  Some of those can be mitigated
>> (e.g

Re: Natty and RT Kernel (was "Maverick and RT")

2010-09-30 Thread Jeremy Jongepier
On 09/30/2010 10:32 AM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote:
> Jeremy,
> 
> 2010/9/30 Jeremy Jongepier :
> [...]
>>>> cut it for me, like I said, I need the tasklet API the -rt kernel
>>>> provides so I can use rtirq.
>>>
>>> Probably you meant IRQ Threads.
>>>
>>
>> I need the tasklet API the -rt kernel provides so I can use rtirq to
>> prioritize IRQ threads ;)
> 
> Not all bottom-halves have done with tasklet API (network stack for
> example uses softirq) and you still configure they priorities with
> chrt (real utility behind rtirq). So you really need for IRQ Threads
> not for Tasklet API.
> 
> I really don't want go into technicism but I suppose could help you
> know what you are really need to. :-)
> 

He he, no need to go technical, I still need to dive into this, it's
still not 100% clear to me how it all works. But if you have some
pointers I'd be grateful!

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Re: Natty and RT Kernel (was "Maverick and RT")

2010-09-30 Thread Jeremy Jongepier
On 09/30/2010 10:18 AM, Bellegarde Laurent wrote:
> Selon Jeremy Jongepier :
>>>> Concerning support, it would be best if there were kernels for every
>>>> release simply because it would be a bummer if people would move away
>>>> from Ubuntu because of this.
>>>
>>> That require a lot of energy. If a lot of people will be available for
>>> help we could do it.
>>>
>>> Ciao,
>>> Alessio
>>>
>>
> 
> Hi all, another info for ones who need a very stable audio distro for audio
> production.
> 

Salut Laurent,

I don't need yet another distro. I want to use Ubuntu. All those forks,
KX Studio, Tango Studio, Dream Studio etc. Why don't they join up with
Ubuntu to make Ubuntu the best multimedia/audio distribution?

> Theses improvements make this distro the best GNU/Linux audio, or multimedia
> editing plateform.
> 

That's a personal opinion. Any distro could be the best when properly
configured. The aforementioned distros are not IMHO. They all use JACK
as the default sound daemon while JACK is not intended to be used like that.

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Re: Natty and RT Kernel (was "Maverick and RT")

2010-09-30 Thread Jeremy Jongepier
On 09/30/2010 08:37 AM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote:
> Hi Jeremy,
> 
> 2010/9/30 Jeremy Jongepier :
> [...]
>> multimedia room with some Ubuntu machines). I've actually never seen a
>> -realtime kernel, what's the difference from -rt? -lowlatency doesn't
> 
> From a technical point of view -rt and -realtime are the same kernel.
> A minor difference is that the -rt kernel offer the "really stable"
> and upstream official release 2.6.31 whereas -realtime offers the last
> official upstream release that is 2.6.33. But there are the same
> kernel (that is PREEMPT_RT). The main difference is the external
> support. In -rt I have tried to offer an usable system as like Ubuntu
> do (so I have worked on compatibility with closed video drivers for
> example like nvidia or fglrx) whereas with -realtime I don't enforce
> it at all.
> 
> In less words: if you need of closed video drivers, external DKMS
> kernel modules, linux-backports-* you should probably start to use
> -lowlatency (when it will be available through Ubuntu repos). Instead
> if you really need of an real-time system you should avoid all above
> or trying to make those working alone.
> 

Thanks for the explanation. Personally I don't care about external
support and I'm very happy with the open source nouveau and radeon
drivers. From a community perspective it's different though and I think
we shouldn't loose that out of sight either. I'd really like to know how
everyone else thinks about that, what is the common ground towards
-rt/-realtime etc.?

>> cut it for me, like I said, I need the tasklet API the -rt kernel
>> provides so I can use rtirq.
> 
> Probably you meant IRQ Threads.
> 

I need the tasklet API the -rt kernel provides so I can use rtirq to
prioritize IRQ threads ;)

>> Concerning support, it would be best if there were kernels for every
>> release simply because it would be a bummer if people would move away
>> from Ubuntu because of this.
> 
> That require a lot of energy. If a lot of people will be available for
> help we could do it.
> 
> Ciao,
> Alessio
> 

I understand and maybe my opinion on this was a bit premature. It maybe
a good thing to think about how many Ubuntu users are actually using the
-rt kernel and if it's really worth the effort in putting a lot of
energy in maintaining these kernels.

Best,

Jeremy

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Re: Natty and RT Kernel (was "Maverick and RT")

2010-09-29 Thread Jeremy Jongepier
On 09/29/2010 10:16 PM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote:
> Hi Brian, Hi Jeremy,
>
> Sorry for my very bad English.
>
> Which are kernels on you are interested in? The -rt, -lowlatency or -realtime?
> Which kernels you use on per day basis (so you can provide test and feedback)?
> Which Ubuntu releases do you would want see well supported for
> that/those kernels? Every releases or only LTS?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ciao,
> Alessio

Hello Alessio,

I only use the -rt kernel, both at home and at work (we have a 
multimedia room with some Ubuntu machines). I've actually never seen a 
-realtime kernel, what's the difference from -rt? -lowlatency doesn't 
cut it for me, like I said, I need the tasklet API the -rt kernel 
provides so I can use rtirq.
Concerning support, it would be best if there were kernels for every 
release simply because it would be a bummer if people would move away 
from Ubuntu because of this.

Best,

Jeremy

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Maverick and RT

2010-09-29 Thread Jeremy Jongepier
Hello all,

I might be able to help out testing and once I become confident enough
with packaging I could help with some of the other aspects of
maintaining a kernel. It would be great if a real-time kernel would be
available for 11.04 again, which depends of course if there will be a
real-time patchset available for the kernel 11.04 will ship with. Afaik
the current RT patchset maintainer is Thomas Gleixner.
But I'd like to stress that I MIGHT be able to help out, it also depends
if other people want to participate and if I have enough time (I am
before all an active musician).

Speaking for myself, I can't work without a real-time kernel. I need the
tasklet API that a real-time kernel provides so I can use rtirq. Without
rtirq my FireWire devices don't work properly at low latencies or don't
work at all. And even on systems that run well without a real-time
kernel I prefer using such a kernel so that I can get the best
performance out of my systems.

Best,

Jeremy

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