Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] 14.04 have two instances of Workrave

2015-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 12:47:11 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 09:41:51 -0500, WMID wrote:
>>I install workrave in my UbuntuStudio 14.04 x386 default XFCE
>>environment, but always when I run my Laptop appear two instances of
>>workave
>>
>>http://i.imgur.com/3xnjzuD.png
>>
>>
>>I search the place were are the startup files of workrave but not
>>find, do you know the place to delete entries  
>
>http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/all/workrave-data/filelist
>shows two dbus services. Perhaps you start it by dbus without being
>aware of it.
>
>http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/i386/workrave/filelist
>shows a desktop file, but it's not in an auto-start location.
>
>You aren't aware of at least starting one instance? You only installed
>the package and nothing else?

PS:

If you exit an Xfce4 session, do you save that session, so that it is
restored, if you start a new session?

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] 14.04 have two instances of Workrave

2015-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 24 Oct 2015 09:41:51 -0500, WMID wrote:
>I install workrave in my UbuntuStudio 14.04 x386 default XFCE
>environment, but always when I run my Laptop appear two instances of
>workave
>
>http://i.imgur.com/3xnjzuD.png
>
>
>I search the place were are the startup files of workrave but not
>find, do you know the place to delete entries

http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/all/workrave-data/filelist
shows two dbus services. Perhaps you start it by dbus without being
aware of it.

http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/i386/workrave/filelist
shows a desktop file, but it's not in an auto-start location.

You aren't aware of at least starting one instance? You only installed
the package and nothing else?

Regards,
Ralf

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[ubuntu-studio-users] 14.04 have two instances of Workrave

2015-10-24 Thread WMID
I install workrave in my UbuntuStudio 14.04 x386 default XFCE environment,
but always when I run my Laptop appear two instances of workave

http://i.imgur.com/3xnjzuD.png


I search the place were are the startup files of workrave but not find, do
you know the place to delete entries


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] 14.04 Some sound app not work when jack is enabled

2014-11-26 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014, at 01:41 PM, WMID wrote:
> On UbuntuStudio 14.04 when I turn on Jack (QjackCtl) some applications
> that
> working only with Pulseaudio, example kdenlive not working, here a
> snapshot:
> 


When you start jack, it will grab the sound card, which means pulseaudio
can't use it anymore.
You can still make pulseaudio connect with jack, making pulseaudio a
jack client. Default settings in qjackctl make this possible. After
starting jack, you will still need to set pulseaudio to use jack as its
output in pulseaudio settings - also, sometimes you will need to
reinitialize or restart any running pulseaudio applications.

To give you a practical list of steps to take:
1. start jack with qjackctl
2. in pulseaudio settings, set jack as the output
3. now, start any jack or pulseaudio applications

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] 14.04 Some sound app not work when jack is enabled

2014-11-24 Thread Set Hallström
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 1:41 PM, WMID  wrote:

> On UbuntuStudio 14.04 when I turn on Jack (QjackCtl) some applications
> that working only with Pulseaudio, example kdenlive not working, here a
> snapshot:
>
>
> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_bvJKOlKuU0/VHMil015fHI/AiU/DVe1N-0hUy4/w776-h465-no/14.04-snapshot-jack-some-app-not-work.png
>
>
>
Your screenshot does not display the connections in jack, although i can
see the "connexiones" window is open. Are you sure everything is connected
as it should  in there?

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Ralf Mardorf 
 wrote:

> Test lingot, fmit, rakarrack, guitarix, gxtuner etc., simply
> install and launch synaptic and search for "tuner". Some tuners might
> not work as expected, but others are very good.


I have to second Ralf on the strange choice of using wine for a simple task
such as running a tuner. Unless you realy need wine for something specific,
you could spare a good share of computing ressources by dumping wine
altogether and opting for one of the alternatives he suggests. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] 14.04 Some sound app not work when jack is enabled

2014-11-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 07:41:27 -0500
WMID  wrote:
> The same is with other app but on wine: 'AP Guitar Tuner':
> 
> http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Other-AUDIO-Tools/AP-Guitar-Tuner.shtml
> 
> in this instance is with the mic, not working the mic and can't tune
> my guitar when I use jack

Is there a reason why you're using a guitar tuner on wine? I'm aware
that guitar tuners are available in different good and different bad
qualities, but in my experiences the Linux tuners that work, are all
good. I anyway use a stand-alone-tuner instead of software.

Test lingot, fmit, rakarrack, guitarix, gxtuner etc., simply
install and launch synaptic and search for "tuner". Some tuners might
not work as expected, but others are very good.

I can't help you with your jackd/pulseaudio issue, since I never ever
would use pulseaudio.

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[ubuntu-studio-users] 14.04 Some sound app not work when jack is enabled

2014-11-24 Thread WMID
On UbuntuStudio 14.04 when I turn on Jack (QjackCtl) some applications that
working only with Pulseaudio, example kdenlive not working, here a snapshot:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_bvJKOlKuU0/VHMil015fHI/AiU/DVe1N-0hUy4/w776-h465-no/14.04-snapshot-jack-some-app-not-work.png

This kdenlive in the same enviroment working fine on UbuntuStudio 12.04.

The same is with other app but on wine: 'AP Guitar Tuner':

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Other-AUDIO-Tools/AP-Guitar-Tuner.shtml

in this instance is with the mic, not working the mic and can't tune my
guitar when I use jack

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[ubuntu-studio-users] 14.04 suspend and pm-utils

2014-05-09 Thread Nate Iverson
FYI:

sudo apt-get install pm-utils

and a reboot seem to fix the suspend is not an option issue I've been
having with ubuntu-studio 14.04.

This is one of the packages that is installed by default on xubuntu
but not ubuntu-studio.

The reason it is necessary for the suspend to work is upower depends
on pm-utils.

I would suggest making it a default package for ubuntu-studio.

Best,

-Nate

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] 14.04

2013-10-06 Thread Rivera Valdez
Hi, Gord.

I think 'yet another xxx' is in the very deep nature of FOSS
(Free or, at least, Open Source Software), GPLed, etx.
It's something good and natural. It's the other side of the
one-app-only proprietary monopolic scheme.

Maybe it isn't perfect, but is better. And you just live with it,
in a similar way you live with people saying stupidities just
for the sake of free speech (and is not for chance that 'free,
as in freedom' appears again).

Regards


On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Gord Williams wrote:

>  *The solution to this problem will be fixed for 14.04, namely, the user will 
> have the choice which metas to install.
> Maybe it might even be worth thinking about per package selection, but this 
> remains to be seen.*
>
> Meta's tend to be almost as much of a mish mash and I am not sure where that 
> comes from, the specialized distribution such as Ubuntustudio  or upstream at 
> Ubuntu,  or even Debian.
> *In your case it sounds to me that what you want to do is not install any 
> metas, and add individual packages afterwards, am I correct?*
>
> Not sure how that works in the real world,  but having done enough in 
> attempting to modify a plain vanilla ubuntu,  it seems to me there are 
> modifications to be made in certain places,  like adding the user to realtime 
> access,  noatime to disc access,  and so on.
>
> I was thinking the user could then trip certain package groups or metas for 
> voice recording,  music production,  photography and so on  and the response 
> would install what they need.  At least there would not be software applied 
> that just isn't going to be use.
> *The whole point of the metas is to provide all possible workflows, and at 
> the same time work as a showcase for new users. It's a way to show what is 
> available. There's no way we can make the metas suite every individuals 
> particular needs. And if someone wants to see a wider range of metas, I'd 
> like to see compelling reasons for doing so.*
>
>
> Compelling,  I don't know but what I am saying is that perhaps refinement of 
> metas is an area that could be an interest.
>
> Most users are musicians,  some are musician/developers,  some are content 
> producers for media (internet, television, radio)  some are hobbyists looking 
> for some neat software to play with.  Right now installing most distributions 
> means sorting through the all of the above option.
>
> Musicians probably benefit the most from all of the stuff in the sound & 
> video section.  Content producers could use a bit more of a refined list of 
> applications.  Guitar boxes,  synths and trackers would be uncommonly used 
> and there might be a more robust requirement for something like Cinelerra 
> which wasn't an option to install.  Ubuntustudio thankfully does not do the 
> software dump that other distributions tend to do.
>
> Moving to Gnome didn't help the matter because some of the functional menus 
> were lost in that process. If I did not know what was functional for me,  and 
> was able to deal with it by setting up AWN or similar,  I would have to surf 
> my system each time to find the software I require.  Well okay,  I did that 
> quite a few versions ago, and it lengthened the learning curve.
>
> It was great to see in 13.04 some functionality brought into the menu's but 
> my choice of desktop was limited to one. In bringing this up I thought that 
> perhaps it was or could be practical to do a Q&A install with the user based 
> on use.
> *Currently, the ISO is quite small, about 2.5 GB. The menu is not cluttered, 
> thanks to our custom categorization. From my POV, it's pretty well organized 
> in that sense.*
>
> Agreed,  and at my most critical I would say that it is a building block for 
> further customization based on use.  Except when you roll back to 12.04 LTS 
> because of stability of gnome desktop.  Something strange happened when I did 
> that,  so back I went to LTS releases,  no upgrades only.
>
> *Ardour is not more advanced than it needs to be for what it is designed for. 
> It's the only decent recording/mixing application for Linux, if you ask me. 
> Audacity is not a recording tool at all. It's an audio wave editor. All
> though you can use it to both do multitrack recording and mixing, that is not 
> what it was designed for, and it's quite poor at it as well.*
>
> Not a fan of Audacity,  but thinking of beginners being overwhelmed with the 
> multi track concept (no help from Audacity unless you set it not to spawn 
> other tracks)  but most of the plugins are built in,  and its a little easier 
> to understand coming from wave editors in Windows (in my case long enough 
> ago)   It wasn't until I dug into Adobe Audition that I found multi track to 
> be useful for what I do.  Ardour version 3,  is an excellent tool for me,  
> but those coming from a radio station environment are probably used to a far 
> simpler system.  I worked at 12 radio stations in my career and only one had 
> multi track, 

[ubuntu-studio-users] 14.04

2013-10-06 Thread Gord Williams

/The solution to this problem will be fixed for 14.04, namely, the user will 
have the choice which metas to install.
Maybe it might even be worth thinking about per package selection, but this 
remains to be seen./

Meta's tend to be almost as much of a mish mash and I am not sure where that 
comes from, the specialized distribution such as Ubuntustudio  or upstream at 
Ubuntu,  or even Debian.

/In your case it sounds to me that what you want to do is not install any 
metas, and add individual packages afterwards, am I correct?/

Not sure how that works in the real world,  but having done enough in 
attempting to modify a plain vanilla ubuntu,  it seems to me there are 
modifications to be made in certain places,  like adding the user to realtime 
access,  noatime to disc access,  and so on.

I was thinking the user could then trip certain package groups or metas for 
voice recording,  music production,  photography and so on  and the response 
would install what they need.  At least there would not be software applied 
that just isn't going to be use.

/The whole point of the metas is to provide all possible workflows, and at the 
same time work as a showcase for new users. It's a way to show what is 
available. There's no way we can make the metas suite every individuals 
particular needs. And if someone wants to see a wider range of metas, I'd like 
to see compelling reasons for doing so./


Compelling,  I don't know but what I am saying is that perhaps refinement of 
metas is an area that could be an interest.

Most users are musicians,  some are musician/developers,  some are content 
producers for media (internet, television, radio)  some are hobbyists looking 
for some neat software to play with.  Right now installing most distributions 
means sorting through the all of the above option.

Musicians probably benefit the most from all of the stuff in the sound & video 
section.  Content producers could use a bit more of a refined list of applications. 
 Guitar boxes,  synths and trackers would be uncommonly used and there might be a 
more robust requirement for something like Cinelerra which wasn't an option to 
install.  Ubuntustudio thankfully does not do the software dump that other 
distributions tend to do.

Moving to Gnome didn't help the matter because some of the functional menus 
were lost in that process. If I did not know what was functional for me,  and 
was able to deal with it by setting up AWN or similar,  I would have to surf my 
system each time to find the software I require.  Well okay,  I did that quite 
a few versions ago, and it lengthened the learning curve.

It was great to see in 13.04 some functionality brought into the menu's but my 
choice of desktop was limited to one. In bringing this up I thought that perhaps it 
was or could be practical to do a Q&A install with the user based on use.

/Currently, the ISO is quite small, about 2.5 GB. The menu is not cluttered, 
thanks to our custom categorization. From my POV, it's pretty well organized in 
that sense./

Agreed,  and at my most critical I would say that it is a building block for 
further customization based on use.  Except when you roll back to 12.04 LTS 
because of stability of gnome desktop.  Something strange happened when I did 
that,  so back I went to LTS releases,  no upgrades only.


/Ardour is not more advanced than it needs to be for what it is designed for. 
It's the only decent recording/mixing application for Linux, if you ask me. 
Audacity is not a recording tool at all. It's an audio wave editor. All
though you can use it to both do multitrack recording and mixing, that is not 
what it was designed for, and it's quite poor at it as well./

Not a fan of Audacity,  but thinking of beginners being overwhelmed with the 
multi track concept (no help from Audacity unless you set it not to spawn other 
tracks)  but most of the plugins are built in,  and its a little easier to 
understand coming from wave editors in Windows (in my case long enough ago)   
It wasn't until I dug into Adobe Audition that I found multi track to be useful 
for what I do.  Ardour version 3,  is an excellent tool for me,  but those 
coming from a radio station environment are probably used to a far simpler 
system.  I worked at 12 radio stations in my career and only one had multi 
track,  very uncommon.

For voice work its about the same thing as music production,  getting the sonic 
truth playing back to you.  But none of us are going to track an orchestra.

/
//There's no getting around it. If you need to perform a task, you need to 
learn how to do it. Sometimes, what you need is to code stuff yourself, which 
is what I've found and which is why I use puredata. But, granted, not everyone 
will want to do that.  Not everyone will want to use LMMS either. And some 
people will only want to use supercollider./


What I have been saying,  its easier to focus on what you need to learn if 
there aren't so many distractions to play wi