Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] FTP Download

2016-03-14 Thread jr...@telus.net
in my experience, the fastest servers were in Germany - university ones 

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Subject: [ubuntu-studio-users] FTP Download 



Hi All, 

I’m looking for a FAST FTP server to download the latest image from. Every ftp 
mirror of “studio” I’ve found is either just plain slow (most appear to be 
throttled down to 265k. Arrgh…), or they burst, then die. Can anyone shoot me 
the url for a server they’ve verified will transfer at 2meg+? 

Thanks! 



Mark Petersen 
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] FTP Download - Was: ubuntu-studio-users Digest, Vol 107, Issue 2

2016-03-13 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-03-13 10:20, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 10:06:23 +0100, Set Hallstrom wrote:
>> Unfortunately, i can only find and recommend the http link i provided
>> earlier.
> 
> I suspect an Ubuntu Studio beta isn't the target of evil people.
> Unlikely a man in the middle attacks, let alone that somebody provides a
> virulent faked ISO and a faked key uploaded to the Ubuntu key server.
> 
> I only wanted to point out that this is possible. For sure this is more
> likely for an Ubuntu (without "Studio") LTS, than for an Ubuntu Studio
> beta.
> 
And you have a good point :) I wrote http without S, not as a statement,
but as in, /couldn't find an ftp/ :)

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] FTP Download - Was: ubuntu-studio-users Digest, Vol 107, Issue 2

2016-03-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 10:06:23 +0100, Set Hallstrom wrote:
>Unfortunately, i can only find and recommend the http link i provided
>earlier.

I suspect an Ubuntu Studio beta isn't the target of evil people.
Unlikely a man in the middle attacks, let alone that somebody provides a
virulent faked ISO and a faked key uploaded to the Ubuntu key server.

I only wanted to point out that this is possible. For sure this is more
likely for an Ubuntu (without "Studio") LTS, than for an Ubuntu Studio
beta.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] FTP Download - Was: ubuntu-studio-users Digest, Vol 107, Issue 2

2016-03-13 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-03-13 04:17, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>  it could happen that all seeders go
> offline, before you downloaded the image. Another thing that should be
> considered is, that the torrent etiquette postulates, that after you
> downloaded the image, you should seed it to a minimum ratio of 1.
> Nobody likes people who just download by torrent and then go offline.
> People doing this are antisocial. If you download, you also must seed
> and it should be more, than just a ratio of 1.

Pretty certain the torrent-files on the website contain a few webseed,
but i can't check right now.
http://askubuntu.com/questions/313107/what-is-web-seed

Non the less, torrent is good, but it is controversial in many
countries, yes. So it is a very good idea to check the link provided by
Ralf before using them:

On 2016-03-12 18:47, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> https://wiki.vuze.com/w/Bad_ISPs

However, and i'm adressing all parts in this discussion, please remember
OP asks for a _ftp mirror_, not the nature of torrent technology or what
is best, better or fraglerock.

Unfortunately, i can only find and recommend the http link i provided
earlier.

Yours,
Set SakrePony



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] FTP Download - Was: ubuntu-studio-users Digest, Vol 107, Issue 2

2016-03-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 11:58:36 +0900, C. F. Howlett wrote:
>I have not direct downloaded an image in years.  Torrent provides much
>faster and more reliable service.  IMHO.

Apart from what already was pointed out, that many, if not most ISPs
are shaping torrent traffic, it could happen that all seeders go
offline, before you downloaded the image. Another thing that should be
considered is, that the torrent etiquette postulates, that after you
downloaded the image, you should seed it to a minimum ratio of 1.
Nobody likes people who just download by torrent and then go offline.
People doing this are antisocial. If you download, you also must seed
and it should be more, than just a ratio of 1.

There are good reasons for torrent, but if download speed is important,
torrent is the absolutely wrong way to go.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] FTP Download

2016-03-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 21:27:55 +0100, Set Hallstrom wrote:
>On 2016-03-12 21:21, Set Hallstrom wrote:
>> If you use any other source than the ones provided by the website,
>> _Make sure you do a checksum before you install_  
>
>Addendum:
>Actually, ALWAYS make a checksum before you install :)

That's correct, but there's a pitfall regarding the signature.

However, here is explained, how to do it

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto

The checksum ensures that the ISO isn't broken due to e.g. errors
arising in the transmission of the download, the signing ensures that
the ISO is from Ubuntu and not a virulent fake from somebody else.
BUT as long as the Ubuntu signature isn't part of your chain of trust

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust

you can _not_ rely on it, if you download the ISO from an unofficial
source. Actually, when downloading from

http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/xenial/beta-1/


it is risky either and requires that the Ubuntu key is part of your
chain of trust.

Too funny that the help page and Wiki are https, but the ISO download
page is a http page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTPS

So again, WARNING, the signed checksum only provides security, if you
know that the key really belongs to the alleged owner. If you didn't
met the owner of the key in the real world, you can trust that the key
belongs to the owner, only by a web of trust.

A https page might not be perfect, but would be much better than the
current http page.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] FTP Download

2016-03-12 Thread Set Hallstrom
On 2016-03-12 21:21, Set Hallstrom wrote:
> If you use any other source than the ones provided by the website,
> _Make sure you do a checksum before you install_

Addendum:
Actually, ALWAYS make a checksum before you install :)


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] FTP Download

2016-03-12 Thread Set Hallstrom
Hi,

On 2016-03-11 21:05, Petersen, Mark wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I’m looking for a FAST FTP server to download the latest image from.

What version, 32, 64 bit?

My connection isn't very good, but the downloads do not burst on me.
Back when my connection was good, i had no such throttled problems.

Here is the list of all the ISO-releases:
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/

If you use any other source than the ones provided by the website,
_Make sure you do a checksum before you install_

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] FTP Download

2016-03-12 Thread Adam Behnke
I personally use syncthing, but it's difficult for the less tech savvy
users
On Mar 12, 2016 11:56 AM, "Edward A Schober" <t...@schober.us> wrote:

> How about downloading using the torrent link?  I, for one, host the
> AMD64 version along with other useful torrents like LibreOffice and
> Knoppix.
>
> You need to update the files once in a while if you want to maintain a
> useful torrent server, but it is otherwise painless.
>
> Torrents go much faster.
>
> Ted
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> Can anyone shoot me the url for a server they've verified will transfer at
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[ubuntu-studio-users] FTP Download

2016-03-12 Thread Edward A Schober
How about downloading using the torrent link?  I, for one, host the
AMD64 version along with other useful torrents like LibreOffice and Knoppix.

You need to update the files once in a while if you want to maintain a
useful torrent server, but it is otherwise painless.

Torrents go much faster.

Ted

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> Hi All,
> I'm looking for a FAST FTP server to download the latest image from. Every 
> ftp mirror of "studio" I've found is either just plain slow (most appear to 
> be throttled down to 265k. Arrgh...), or they burst, then die. Can anyone 
> shoot me the url for a server they've verified will transfer at 2meg+?
> Thanks!
>
> Mark Petersen
> Technical Director
> Theater At Mountainview
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[ubuntu-studio-users] FTP Download

2016-03-11 Thread Petersen, Mark
Hi All,
I'm looking for a FAST FTP server to download the latest image from. Every ftp 
mirror of "studio" I've found is either just plain slow (most appear to be 
throttled down to 265k. Arrgh...), or they burst, then die. Can anyone shoot me 
the url for a server they've verified will transfer at 2meg+?
Thanks!

Mark Petersen
Technical Director
Theater At Mountainview
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