Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] GIMP 2.10.6 - Was: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Cosmic Release Notes
On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 15:41:35 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >For testing purpose I downgrade GIMP to 2.8.22, it can't open the >version 11 file, but despite a lot of soname issues (I didn't >downgrade the dependenicies, too), it can open the file saved with >2.10.6 ...that was saved after selecting "Legacy" mode ;). -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] GIMP 2.10.6 - Was: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Cosmic Release Notes
On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 21:24:08 +, Erich Eickmeyer wrote: >this seems like stuff that belongs in a bug report The bugs do so, but not the backwards compatibility information. So here's a last related mail with some information. A package allows the user to see what XCF version is used: https://packages.ubuntu.com/cosmic/xcftools Available for other distros, too, at least for Arch Linux provided by the AUR, so I don't need to restart my computer now. An issue are XCF version 11 files, since GIMP 2.8 can't open those files. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ xcfinfo ~/Pictures/music/tonleiter_c_am-pentatonik.xcf Warning: XCF version 11 not supported (trying anyway...) Version 11, 1640x525 RGB color, 0 layers, compressed None When storing a file with GIMP 2.10.6, it's possible to store it in legacy mode. Windows > Dockable Dialogs > Layers Select the layer (or one layer by another, I tested with a single layer only) and in the "Mode" bar, click the right dropdown menu, to change from "Default" to "Legacy", then safe the file (if needed by a new name). [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ xcfinfo ~/Pictures/music/tonleiter_c_am-pentatonik.legacy.layer.xcf Version 0, 1640x525 RGB color, 1 layers, compressed RLE + 1640x525+0+0 RGB-alpha Normal Pasted Layer For testing purpose I downgrade GIMP to 2.8.22, it can't open the version 11 file, but despite a lot of soname issues (I didn't downgrade the dependenicies, too), it can open the file saved with 2.10.6. IOW it's possible to share files stored with cosmic's version of GIMP, with other users, who e.g. stay with an Ubuntu Studio LTS. -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] GIMP 2.10.6 - Was: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Cosmic Release Notes
Thanks, Tommy. I’m the person who wrote that. That pertains to https://launchpad.net/bugs/1759625 which is a separate bug. I hope that helps explain the reasoning. Thanks, Erich From: Tommy Hjalmarsson Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 4:27 PM To: Ubuntu Studio Users; Erich Eickmeyer Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] GIMP 2.10.6 - Was: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Cosmic Release Notes 'Among those applications upgraded in this release is GIMP 2.10, which saw its release shortly before the release of Ubuntu Studio 18.04. Due to a library conflict between GIMP 2.10 and MyPaint, we had to make the hard decision to drop MyPaint from the default installation of Ubuntu Studio beginning in 18.10, citing other tools, such as Krita, as filling a similar role in graphical art production. As such, if both are installed and you wish to upgrade to Ubuntu Studio 18.10, you must uninstall GIMP or MyPaint for the upgrade to be successful.' https://ubuntustudio.org/2018/10/ubuntu-studio-18-10-released/ On 2018-10-18 23:24, Erich Eickmeyer wrote: Ralf, I appreciate your tenacity, but this seems like stuff that belongs in a bug report. Thanks, Erich From: ubuntu-studio-users <mailto:ubuntu-studio-users-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com> on behalf of Ralf Mardorf <mailto:ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:09 PM To: Ubuntu Studio Development Cc: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com<mailto:ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] GIMP 2.10.6 - Was: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Cosmic Release Notes On 18 Oct 2018, at 17:39, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On 18 Oct 2018, at 13:20, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> I just downloaded the current daily build and will test GIMP 2.10 on >> Ubuntu Studio cosmic, too. I'll report back. > The computer was unused for a while, so I wasn't surprised about the screen > blanking that happened. When I wanted to start testing GIMP a few seconds > later, I needed to push Ctrl+Alt+some F key and then Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back > the desktop. Just pushing keys, moving the mouse with and without turning off > and on the display didn't work. During a test with just a single layer, without copy and paste, just using a few tools, it did _not_ crash. I don't know if its stable, it's to time consuming to continue testing. It at least didn't crash during a not so hard test. The grid doesn't work correctly, it requires to close and open GIMP again to get new grid settings. This is what I experienced when using it on Arch Linux, too. With single window mode disabled, it's needed to select "always on to" by the dock windows each time GIMP is opened. This might be related to the DE. IIRC on Arch Linux with openbox I don't need to do it, the GIMP dock windows automatically stay on top. -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com<mailto:ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] GIMP 2.10.6 - Was: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Cosmic Release Notes
'Among those applications upgraded in this release is GIMP 2.10, which saw its release shortly before the release of Ubuntu Studio 18.04. Due to a library conflict between GIMP 2.10 and MyPaint, we had to make the hard decision to drop MyPaint from the default installation of Ubuntu Studio beginning in 18.10, citing other tools, such as Krita, as filling a similar role in graphical art production. As such, if both are installed and you wish to upgrade to Ubuntu Studio 18.10, *you must uninstall GIMP or MyPaint for the upgrade to be successful.*' https://ubuntustudio.org/2018/10/ubuntu-studio-18-10-released/ On 2018-10-18 23:24, Erich Eickmeyer wrote: Ralf, I appreciate your tenacity, but this seems like stuff that belongs in a bug report. Thanks, Erich *From:* ubuntu-studio-users on behalf of Ralf Mardorf *Sent:* Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:09 PM *To:* Ubuntu Studio Development *Cc:* ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com *Subject:* Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] GIMP 2.10.6 - Was: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Cosmic Release Notes On 18 Oct 2018, at 17:39, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On 18 Oct 2018, at 13:20, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> I just downloaded the current daily build and will test GIMP 2.10 on >> Ubuntu Studio cosmic, too. I'll report back. > The computer was unused for a while, so I wasn't surprised about the screen blanking that happened. When I wanted to start testing GIMP a few seconds later, I needed to push Ctrl+Alt+some F key and then Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back the desktop. Just pushing keys, moving the mouse with and without turning off and on the display didn't work. During a test with just a single layer, without copy and paste, just using a few tools, it did _not_ crash. I don't know if its stable, it's to time consuming to continue testing. It at least didn't crash during a not so hard test. The grid doesn't work correctly, it requires to close and open GIMP again to get new grid settings. This is what I experienced when using it on Arch Linux, too. With single window mode disabled, it's needed to select "always on to" by the dock windows each time GIMP is opened. This might be related to the DE. IIRC on Arch Linux with openbox I don't need to do it, the GIMP dock windows automatically stay on top. -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] GIMP 2.10.6 - Was: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Cosmic Release Notes
Ralf, I appreciate your tenacity, but this seems like stuff that belongs in a bug report. Thanks, Erich From: ubuntu-studio-users on behalf of Ralf Mardorf Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:09 PM To: Ubuntu Studio Development Cc: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] GIMP 2.10.6 - Was: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Cosmic Release Notes On 18 Oct 2018, at 17:39, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On 18 Oct 2018, at 13:20, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> I just downloaded the current daily build and will test GIMP 2.10 on >> Ubuntu Studio cosmic, too. I'll report back. > The computer was unused for a while, so I wasn't surprised about the screen > blanking that happened. When I wanted to start testing GIMP a few seconds > later, I needed to push Ctrl+Alt+some F key and then Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back > the desktop. Just pushing keys, moving the mouse with and without turning off > and on the display didn't work. During a test with just a single layer, without copy and paste, just using a few tools, it did _not_ crash. I don't know if its stable, it's to time consuming to continue testing. It at least didn't crash during a not so hard test. The grid doesn't work correctly, it requires to close and open GIMP again to get new grid settings. This is what I experienced when using it on Arch Linux, too. With single window mode disabled, it's needed to select "always on to" by the dock windows each time GIMP is opened. This might be related to the DE. IIRC on Arch Linux with openbox I don't need to do it, the GIMP dock windows automatically stay on top. -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] GIMP 2.10.6 - Was: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Cosmic Release Notes
On 18 Oct 2018, at 17:39, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On 18 Oct 2018, at 13:20, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> I just downloaded the current daily build and will test GIMP 2.10 on >> Ubuntu Studio cosmic, too. I'll report back. > The computer was unused for a while, so I wasn't surprised about the screen > blanking that happened. When I wanted to start testing GIMP a few seconds > later, I needed to push Ctrl+Alt+some F key and then Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back > the desktop. Just pushing keys, moving the mouse with and without turning off > and on the display didn't work. During a test with just a single layer, without copy and paste, just using a few tools, it did _not_ crash. I don't know if its stable, it's to time consuming to continue testing. It at least didn't crash during a not so hard test. The grid doesn't work correctly, it requires to close and open GIMP again to get new grid settings. This is what I experienced when using it on Arch Linux, too. With single window mode disabled, it's needed to select "always on to" by the dock windows each time GIMP is opened. This might be related to the DE. IIRC on Arch Linux with openbox I don't need to do it, the GIMP dock windows automatically stay on top. -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] GIMP 2.10.6 - Was: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Cosmic Release Notes
> On 18 Oct 2018, at 13:20, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I just downloaded the current daily build and will test GIMP 2.10 on > Ubuntu Studio cosmic, too. I'll report back. Hi, booting 20181017.2 "Live" worked without issues, btw. nice splash screen. The desktop appeared. I like the wallpaper. The computer was unused for a while, so I wasn't surprised about the screen blanking that happened. When I wanted to start testing GIMP a few seconds later, I needed to push Ctrl+Alt+some F key and then Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back the desktop. Just pushing keys, moving the mouse with and without turning off and on the display didn't work. FWIW this doesn't happen, if I use an Ubuntu Mate 18.04.1 Live DVD. Now I've got something else to do, but I keep the daily build running and try to test GIMP later. To be continued... Ralf -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
[ubuntu-studio-users] GIMP 2.10.6 - Was: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Cosmic Release Notes
On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 20:32 -0700, Hank Stanglow wrote: > On 10/17/2018 07:55 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > just a warning regarding GIMP 2.10.6. > > > > Two days ago I used it on Arch Linux. It's more or less unusable. > Oh wow, thanks for that important first hand account. I've been looking > forward to GIMP 2.10 for several months. It's a HUGE release for them > and I hope they get a stable version soon. Hi Hank, I just downloaded the current daily build and will test GIMP 2.10 on Ubuntu Studio cosmic, too. I'll report back. Apart of random crashes, on Arch Linux not everything works as expected. For example, to change the grid it's required to restart GIMP. View > [x] Show Grid Edit > Preferences > Default Image > Default Grid The Windows menu is sometimes fishy, too. If somebody else wants to test it, I added a script to download the current daily build. The script does also get the public Ubuntu keys and anything else needed, to automatically check the ISO against the _signed_ checksum. Regards, Ralf -- The GIMP related mails of the original thread: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2018-October/008954.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2018-October/008955.html ubuntustudio_current_daily_build.sh Description: application/shellscript -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
