Re: 11.10, where is it?

[daniel murray]

Thanks everyone,

Yes, Atom is not good, neither the slow 5400rpm HD it ships with, ram must
be slow too, all attributing to the bad performance i'm getting with
softsynths - just getting me through the hardware hump :)

MH - you are correct, I did not want to change my OS (i do not do this
often..) and I do not believe the cause of the cpu failure was software
related - I changed because in my location, I could no longer reach any
repos for lucid and the system was puking - probably the first hint for the
hardware failure. I believe it was going to die and it just so happended it
died after my upgrade. Yes - USB Audio devices blow big chunks but, getting
me through the hump! I normally use the audiophile 2496 pci card which has
DSP and takes a big chunk of the processing away from the cpu. I could not
DL any 9.0 version from sites...only 8.X, 10,X and up - that's ok though, no
hardware :)

In any case, I'd just like to say that since 8.X, i"ve been advocating this
distro to as many other producers as I can. I've already managed to convert
two people from a windows based system to ubuntu studio. Once you realize
it's power, you can never, ever go back!

Thanks again everyone. Dan.

On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Gustin Johnson  wrote:

> 10.04 worked for me, as did 11.04.  I just moved to 11.10 but have not
> done any serious testing.  I mainly use ardour/mixbus, zyn, bristol,
> and various effects on tracks.
>
> One thing I will say, is that dual core or not, Atoms are pretty
> crappy CPUs.  In my mind they suck too much power to really justify
> their lack of performance (the power problem has a lot to do with the
> chipset that the Atom is paired with, but you are still stuck with an
> under-performing part).
>
> For just recording the Atoms are fine, but as soon as you start
> applying effects or using samples, they get bogged down pretty quick.
> The SSDs that usually ship with netbooks are also terrible, you are
> better off with a Western Digital Black or some other decently
> performing disk (or a better SSD).
>
> Adding to the Atom nightmare is the 2 GB RAM limitation.  This is just
> not a platform that is built for success with media work flows.
>
> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Mike Holstein  wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 7:21 AM, daniel murray  >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi everyone,
> >>
> >> I've had to switch to 11.04, install the lowlatency kernel (3.012) and
> the
> >> software I use manually. I use hyrdrogen, zynaddsubfx, seq24, muse,
> jack,
> >> jack-rack, ardour, audacity, auto-talent, vocoder and all the calf,
> ladspa
> >> and the tom plugins, jamin and the xfce interface.
> >>
> >> My studio PC recently blew up when i moved from Lucid (which could no
> >> longer reach any repos) to 11.04. As I loaded one of my sessions
> (not
> >> realising the kernel went to generic) and thus overloaded the cpu to the
> >> point that my PC crashed and would no longer post. When I looked at it
> >> physically, the heat sick was bentnice:). It was just a simple inter
> p4
> >> 2.9ghz, 512L2 cache with a gig of ram. On this, I could run hydrogen,
> >> ardour, jack-rack and zynaddsubfx with at least 6 hudge sounds loaded in
> zyn
> >> and atleast 12 tracks of audio in ardour with fx and even porting to
> jamin
> >> or audacity for master mixes.
> >>
> >> Now, even with a dual core atom processor (believe it or not, actually
> >> have to use a netbook to keep producing) along with an M-Audio
> AudioPhile
> >> USB audio/midi box, when I run Hydrogren with ZynAddSubFX and
> Seq24-(since
> >> muse took a poop), I can't load more than 2 sounds in zyn before jack
> takes
> >> a poop.  So as a work around until these issues get solved, I have to
> >> reccord small wave file patterns from zyn and import those as
> instruments
> >> within hydrgen so that they can be sequenced. Not ideal but atleast I
> can
> >> get my releases done.
> >>
> >> Also noted that the physical midi timing between outboard devices and
> >> internal devices such as hydrogen do not line up and sometimes fall out
> of
> >> sync over time.
> >>
> >> I wish the 9.10 repos still existed - this release worked.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Daniel Murray.
> >
> >
> > hey daniel... feel free to find me on the IRC as holstein in
> #ubuntustudio,
> > #ubuntustudio-devel or #opensourcemusicians i think you'll need to be
> a
> > bit more pro-active to diagnose just exactly what your issue/issues are.
> the
> > repos for 10.04 work fine for me. you can always get the DVD for 9.10,
> > install, and just dont update. anyways, the scenarios you mention seem
> like
> > they could be hardware related... and also, even though you are switching
> > machines, and operating systems quite a bit, there are a few constants.
> you
> > are a steady constant, you and your methods of connecting and configuring
> > the hardware, and also the USB device is a constant (i assume) so i think
> it
> > would be beneficial to look at the systems and how 

Re: 11.10, where is it?

[Gustin Johnson]

10.04 worked for me, as did 11.04.  I just moved to 11.10 but have not
done any serious testing.  I mainly use ardour/mixbus, zyn, bristol,
and various effects on tracks.

One thing I will say, is that dual core or not, Atoms are pretty
crappy CPUs.  In my mind they suck too much power to really justify
their lack of performance (the power problem has a lot to do with the
chipset that the Atom is paired with, but you are still stuck with an
under-performing part).

For just recording the Atoms are fine, but as soon as you start
applying effects or using samples, they get bogged down pretty quick.
The SSDs that usually ship with netbooks are also terrible, you are
better off with a Western Digital Black or some other decently
performing disk (or a better SSD).

Adding to the Atom nightmare is the 2 GB RAM limitation.  This is just
not a platform that is built for success with media work flows.

On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Mike Holstein  wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 7:21 AM, daniel murray 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I've had to switch to 11.04, install the lowlatency kernel (3.012) and the
>> software I use manually. I use hyrdrogen, zynaddsubfx, seq24, muse, jack,
>> jack-rack, ardour, audacity, auto-talent, vocoder and all the calf, ladspa
>> and the tom plugins, jamin and the xfce interface.
>>
>> My studio PC recently blew up when i moved from Lucid (which could no
>> longer reach any repos) to 11.04. As I loaded one of my sessions (not
>> realising the kernel went to generic) and thus overloaded the cpu to the
>> point that my PC crashed and would no longer post. When I looked at it
>> physically, the heat sick was bentnice:). It was just a simple inter p4
>> 2.9ghz, 512L2 cache with a gig of ram. On this, I could run hydrogen,
>> ardour, jack-rack and zynaddsubfx with at least 6 hudge sounds loaded in zyn
>> and atleast 12 tracks of audio in ardour with fx and even porting to jamin
>> or audacity for master mixes.
>>
>> Now, even with a dual core atom processor (believe it or not, actually
>> have to use a netbook to keep producing) along with an M-Audio AudioPhile
>> USB audio/midi box, when I run Hydrogren with ZynAddSubFX and Seq24-(since
>> muse took a poop), I can't load more than 2 sounds in zyn before jack takes
>> a poop.  So as a work around until these issues get solved, I have to
>> reccord small wave file patterns from zyn and import those as instruments
>> within hydrgen so that they can be sequenced. Not ideal but atleast I can
>> get my releases done.
>>
>> Also noted that the physical midi timing between outboard devices and
>> internal devices such as hydrogen do not line up and sometimes fall out of
>> sync over time.
>>
>> I wish the 9.10 repos still existed - this release worked.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Daniel Murray.
>
>
> hey daniel... feel free to find me on the IRC as holstein in #ubuntustudio,
> #ubuntustudio-devel or #opensourcemusicians i think you'll need to be a
> bit more pro-active to diagnose just exactly what your issue/issues are. the
> repos for 10.04 work fine for me. you can always get the DVD for 9.10,
> install, and just dont update. anyways, the scenarios you mention seem like
> they could be hardware related... and also, even though you are switching
> machines, and operating systems quite a bit, there are a few constants. you
> are a steady constant, you and your methods of connecting and configuring
> the hardware, and also the USB device is a constant (i assume) so i think it
> would be beneficial to look at the systems and how they are using/seeing
> that USB device, and how you are configuring the systems. i have *never*
> heard of JACK or a kernel or anything like that breaking hardware either...
> lets troubleshoot and get some concrete answers to list in a bug report or
> somewhere else that will be beneficial to you.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Scott Lavender 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Tim H  wrote:

 When is the stable release scheduled to be available?  Xubuntu has been
 out for almost a week now.

 I'm planning on merging my 2 partitions into one mega release for 11.10
 as it fixes many of the problems I've had on both studio and xubuntu
 releases past.

 J/w

 Thanks,
 Tim

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>>>
>>> Hi Tim,
>>>
>>> I will be glad to provide the link to the release plus a caveat for the
>>> Ubuntu Studio 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot release.
>>>
>>> The link:  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/11.10/release/
>>>
>>> The caveat:t unfortunately this is slightly unfinished as the team made
>>> slow progress initially and then basically fell apart during the cycle.
>>> There are updated applications but the transition to xfce remain
>>> incomplete.  i do not b

Re: 11.10, where is it?

[Mike Holstein]

On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 7:21 AM, daniel murray wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I've had to switch to 11.04, install the lowlatency kernel (3.012) and the
> software I use manually. I use hyrdrogen, zynaddsubfx, seq24, muse, jack,
> jack-rack, ardour, audacity, auto-talent, vocoder and all the calf, ladspa
> and the tom plugins, jamin and the xfce interface.
>
> My studio PC recently blew up when i moved from Lucid (which could no
> longer reach any repos) to 11.04. As I loaded one of my sessions (not
> realising the kernel went to generic) and thus overloaded the cpu to the
> point that my PC crashed and would no longer post. When I looked at it
> physically, the heat sick was bentnice:). It was just a simple inter p4
> 2.9ghz, 512L2 cache with a gig of ram. On this, I could run hydrogen,
> ardour, jack-rack and zynaddsubfx with at least 6 hudge sounds loaded in zyn
> and atleast 12 tracks of audio in ardour with fx and even porting to jamin
> or audacity for master mixes.
>
> Now, even with a dual core atom processor (believe it or not, actually have
> to use a netbook to keep producing) along with an M-Audio AudioPhile USB
> audio/midi box, when I run Hydrogren with ZynAddSubFX and Seq24-(since muse
> took a poop), I can't load more than 2 sounds in zyn before jack takes a
> poop.  So as a work around until these issues get solved, I have to reccord
> small wave file patterns from zyn and import those as instruments within
> hydrgen so that they can be sequenced. Not ideal but atleast I can get my
> releases done.
>
> Also noted that the physical midi timing between outboard devices and
> internal devices such as hydrogen do not line up and sometimes fall out of
> sync over time.
>
> I wish the 9.10 repos still existed - this release worked.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Daniel Murray.


hey daniel... feel free to find me on the IRC as holstein in #ubuntustudio,
#ubuntustudio-devel or #opensourcemusicians i think you'll need to be a
bit more pro-active to diagnose just exactly what your issue/issues are. the
repos for 10.04 work fine for me. you can always get the DVD for 9.10,
install, and just dont update. anyways, the scenarios you mention seem like
they could be hardware related... and also, even though you are switching
machines, and operating systems quite a bit, there are a few constants. you
are a steady constant, you and your methods of connecting and configuring
the hardware, and also the USB device is a constant (i assume) so i think it
would be beneficial to look at the systems and how they are using/seeing
that USB device, and how you are configuring the systems. i have *never*
heard of JACK or a kernel or anything like that breaking hardware either...
lets troubleshoot and get some concrete answers to list in a bug report or
somewhere else that will be beneficial to you.

>
>
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Scott Lavender 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Tim H  wrote:
>>
>>> When is the stable release scheduled to be available?  Xubuntu has been
>>> out for almost a week now.
>>>
>>> I'm planning on merging my 2 partitions into one mega release for 11.10
>>> as it fixes many of the problems I've had on both studio and xubuntu
>>> releases past.
>>>
>>> J/w
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tim
>>>
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>>
>>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> I will be glad to provide the link to the release plus a caveat for the
>> Ubuntu Studio 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot release.
>>
>> The link:  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/11.10/release/
>>
>> The caveat:t unfortunately this is slightly unfinished as the team made
>> slow progress initially and then basically fell apart during the cycle.
>> There are updated applications but the transition to xfce remain
>> incomplete.  i do not believe there are any other significant issues with
>> 11.10 but would certainly like to hear if any are experienced.
>>
>> Lastly, I would like to mention that we have a plan for 12.04 and I firmly
>> believe we will see a release of which to be proud.
>>
>> ScottL
>>
>>
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Re: 11.10, where is it?

[daniel murray]

Hi everyone,

I've had to switch to 11.04, install the lowlatency kernel (3.012) and the
software I use manually. I use hyrdrogen, zynaddsubfx, seq24, muse, jack,
jack-rack, ardour, audacity, auto-talent, vocoder and all the calf, ladspa
and the tom plugins, jamin and the xfce interface.

My studio PC recently blew up when i moved from Lucid (which could no longer
reach any repos) to 11.04. As I loaded one of my sessions (not realising
the kernel went to generic) and thus overloaded the cpu to the point that my
PC crashed and would no longer post. When I looked at it physically, the
heat sick was bentnice:). It was just a simple inter p4 2.9ghz, 512L2
cache with a gig of ram. On this, I could run hydrogen, ardour, jack-rack
and zynaddsubfx with at least 6 hudge sounds loaded in zyn and atleast 12
tracks of audio in ardour with fx and even porting to jamin or audacity for
master mixes.

Now, even with a dual core atom processor (believe it or not, actually have
to use a netbook to keep producing) along with an M-Audio AudioPhile USB
audio/midi box, when I run Hydrogren with ZynAddSubFX and Seq24-(since muse
took a poop), I can't load more than 2 sounds in zyn before jack takes a
poop.  So as a work around until these issues get solved, I have to reccord
small wave file patterns from zyn and import those as instruments within
hydrgen so that they can be sequenced. Not ideal but atleast I can get my
releases done.

Also noted that the physical midi timing between outboard devices and
internal devices such as hydrogen do not line up and sometimes fall out of
sync over time.

I wish the 9.10 repos still existed - this release worked.

Cheers,

Daniel Murray.

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Scott Lavender wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Tim H  wrote:
>
>> When is the stable release scheduled to be available?  Xubuntu has been
>> out for almost a week now.
>>
>> I'm planning on merging my 2 partitions into one mega release for 11.10 as
>> it fixes many of the problems I've had on both studio and xubuntu releases
>> past.
>>
>> J/w
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tim
>>
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>
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> I will be glad to provide the link to the release plus a caveat for the
> Ubuntu Studio 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot release.
>
> The link:  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/11.10/release/
>
> The caveat:t unfortunately this is slightly unfinished as the team made
> slow progress initially and then basically fell apart during the cycle.
> There are updated applications but the transition to xfce remain
> incomplete.  i do not believe there are any other significant issues with
> 11.10 but would certainly like to hear if any are experienced.
>
> Lastly, I would like to mention that we have a plan for 12.04 and I firmly
> believe we will see a release of which to be proud.
>
> ScottL
>
>
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Re: 11.10, where is it?

[Scott Lavender]

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Sergio Bello  wrote:

> **
> Is this the final release?
> I'm going to demonstrate US at the Italian Linux Day this saturday: better
> to stick with 11.04 or
> can I venture in this new land without too much fear?
>
> Thanks, and forgive my intrusion in this thread.
> Sergio
>
>
> On 10/19/2011 02:21 AM, Erik Rasmussen wrote:
>
> cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/11.10/release/
> On Oct 18, 2011 4:56 PM, "Tim Henderson"  wrote:
>
>> When is the stable release scheduled to be available?  Xubuntu has been
>> out for almost a week now.
>>
>> I'm planning on merging my 2 partitions into one mega release for 11.10 as
>> it fixes many of the problems I've had on both studio and xubuntu releases
>> past.
>>
>> J/w
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tim
>>
>> ps, my post was held for moderation orginally for over 24 hours.
>> Re-posting.  Mod's, please don't double post this.
>>
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Sergio,

The simple answer is that 11.10 is slightly unfinished as the transition to
XFCE was not completed.  I would suggest using 11.04 for any demonstration
purposes.

However, I expect 12.04 to be something worthy of demonstration as well at
that time :)

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Re: 11.10, where is it?

[Scott Lavender]

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Tim H. <
xubuntu-users-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com> wrote:

> On 10/18/2011 08:21 PM, Erik Rasmussen wrote:
>
>> cdimage.ubuntu.com/**ubuntustudio/releases/11.10/**release/
>> 
>> >
>>
>>
> So, the web page isn't being updated?  I've noticed a lot of errors on the
> page, not to mention the lack of the current release.
>
> http://ubuntustudio.org
>
> Are the devs looking for a web guy?
>
> Tim H.
>
>
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Hi again Tim,

Our current website is in terrible shape but we have had some problems
getting a website update completed.  However, we have Knome currently
assisting us who I believe was instrumental in getting the Xubuntu website
updated.

I do not know if we can use or wants assistance but feel free to look for
him on freenode IRC at either #ubuntustudio-devel or #xubuntu-devel.

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Re: 11.10, where is it?

[Scott Lavender]

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Tim H  wrote:

> When is the stable release scheduled to be available?  Xubuntu has been out
> for almost a week now.
>
> I'm planning on merging my 2 partitions into one mega release for 11.10 as
> it fixes many of the problems I've had on both studio and xubuntu releases
> past.
>
> J/w
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
>
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Hi Tim,

I will be glad to provide the link to the release plus a caveat for the
Ubuntu Studio 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot release.

The link:  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/11.10/release/

The caveat:t unfortunately this is slightly unfinished as the team made slow
progress initially and then basically fell apart during the cycle. There are
updated applications but the transition to xfce remain incomplete.  i do not
believe there are any other significant issues with 11.10 but would
certainly like to hear if any are experienced.

Lastly, I would like to mention that we have a plan for 12.04 and I firmly
believe we will see a release of which to be proud.

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Re: 11.10, where is it?

[Erik Rasmussen]

As I recall, there was some last-minute turn-over on who was handling the
website updates.  If you're interested in helping, you might want to
consider offering to help on the Developer list.

>From what I've seen, Ubuntu Studio is *always* ready and released at the
*same* time that new versions of generic Ubuntu are released.  Getting the
latest release linked onto the website as soon as possible, on the other
hand, seems like it is not on the top-priority list.  So you might want to
consider bookmarking the below link and then just changing the URL release
number accordingly, when it is the right time.
*
*
*cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/11.10/release/
*
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 19:36, Tim H. <
xubuntu-users-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com> wrote:

> On 10/18/2011 08:21 PM, Erik Rasmussen wrote:
>
>> cdimage.ubuntu.com/**ubuntustudio/releases/11.10/**release/
>> 
>> >
>>
>>
> So, the web page isn't being updated?  I've noticed a lot of errors on the
> page, not to mention the lack of the current release.
>
> http://ubuntustudio.org
>
> Are the devs looking for a web guy?
>
> Tim H.
>
>
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Re: 11.10, where is it?

[Sergio Bello]

Is this the final release?
I'm going to demonstrate US at the Italian Linux Day this saturday: 
better to stick with 11.04 or

can I venture in this new land without too much fear?

Thanks, and forgive my intrusion in this thread.
Sergio

On 10/19/2011 02:21 AM, Erik Rasmussen wrote:


cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/11.10/release/ 



On Oct 18, 2011 4:56 PM, "Tim Henderson" > wrote:


When is the stable release scheduled to be available?  Xubuntu has
been out for almost a week now.

I'm planning on merging my 2 partitions into one mega release for
11.10 as it fixes many of the problems I've had on both studio and
xubuntu releases past.

J/w

Thanks,
Tim

ps, my post was held for moderation orginally for over 24 hours.
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11.10, where is it?

[Tim H]

When is the stable release scheduled to be available?  Xubuntu has been 
out for almost a week now.


I'm planning on merging my 2 partitions into one mega release for 11.10 
as it fixes many of the problems I've had on both studio and xubuntu 
releases past.


J/w

Thanks,
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Re: 11.10, where is it?

[Tim H.]

On 10/18/2011 08:21 PM, Erik Rasmussen wrote:

cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/11.10/release/




So, the web page isn't being updated?  I've noticed a lot of errors on 
the page, not to mention the lack of the current release.


http://ubuntustudio.org

Are the devs looking for a web guy?

Tim H.


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Re: 11.10, where is it?

[Erik Rasmussen]

cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/11.10/release/
On Oct 18, 2011 4:56 PM, "Tim Henderson"  wrote:

> When is the stable release scheduled to be available?  Xubuntu has been out
> for almost a week now.
>
> I'm planning on merging my 2 partitions into one mega release for 11.10 as
> it fixes many of the problems I've had on both studio and xubuntu releases
> past.
>
> J/w
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
>
> ps, my post was held for moderation orginally for over 24 hours.
> Re-posting.  Mod's, please don't double post this.
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11.10, where is it?

[Tim Henderson]

When is the stable release scheduled to be available?  Xubuntu has been 
out for almost a week now.


I'm planning on merging my 2 partitions into one mega release for 11.10 
as it fixes many of the problems I've had on both studio and xubuntu 
releases past.


J/w

Thanks,
Tim

ps, my post was held for moderation orginally for over 24 hours. 
Re-posting.  Mod's, please don't double post this.


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