Re: Computer Music #129 article about Ubuntu Studio

[Hartmut Noack]

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Cory K. schrieb:

> What sux, is the fact that they're *not* using Studio. It's some
> completely messed up Ubuntu. Tons of icons. No Ardour or mention of -rt.
> (that I can see yet) Didn't use the theme. We're pissed. It's a
> misrepresentation.


I have written about 3 4-6 page articles on Ubuntu Studio. One in
comparison with Suse/JAD, one on Ubuntustudio itself and a tutorial, how
to turn a standard Ubuntu into a DAW using the US-packages. Did this for
a german computer-mag called Linux Intern, so I did not bother to
mention it since the mag is in german only...

I used screenshots from the standard Ubuntustudio 8.04 with the theme in
one case and screenshots from my customized US-enhanced Xubuntu and even
some with KDE in the other articles. Of course Ardour, the overall
software-inclusions and the rt-thing played a central role in the
articles and I guess, I presented your work in a fair and overall
positive manner.

So I guess, the theme might be important for you and for some other
users also but the main benefit for the users out there is the perfect
integration of the rt-capabilities and the apps in the Ubuntu repos -
regardless if one likes KDE (like me today) or XFCE (like me also on
some machines) or GNOME or Fluxbox or whatever - your work enables all
those Ubuntu-users to make music with their computers and this is what
counts.

best regs

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Re: Computer Music #129 article about Ubuntu Studio

[Steven Davies-Morris]

Luis de Bethencourt wrote:
> On 9/12/08, Steven Davies-Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Cory K. wrote:
>>  > Steven Davies-Morris wrote:
>>  >> Luis de Bethencourt wrote:
>>  >>
>>  >>> The 6 scans can be downloaded and viewed from:
>>  >>> http://luisbg.users.ubuntustudio.org/luisbg/computer_music/
>>  >>>
>>  >>> Awesome! Thanks Steven.
>>  >>>
>>  >>> Luis
>>  >>>
>>  >> You're welcome.  It doesn't tell us much we don't already know,
>>  >> and it would have been nice if there'd been one more page of text
>>  >>  going a bit deeper into Ubuntu Studio.  But the fact that they'd
>>  >>  give it 6 pages and show the range of apps and say such positive
>>  >>  things about it is a very good sign that Ubuntu Studio is going
>>  >> to be taken seriously as a viable DAW environment.
>>  >>
>>  >
>>  > What sux, is the fact that they're *not* using Studio. It's some
>>  > completely messed up Ubuntu. Tons of icons. No Ardour or mention of
>>  >  -rt. (that I can see yet) Didn't use the theme. We're pissed. It's
>>  >  a misrepresentation.
>>  >
>>  > -Cory K.
>>
>>
>> Um...they added the icons onto the desktop of standard Ubuntu because
>>  Windows users expect to see icons on the desktop? ;-)
>>
>>  as I said, it's just a surface scratch, and another page going into
>>  more about Ubuntu Studio (i.e. real-time kernel) would have been nice.
>>  But it's a start -- a useful signpost on the road, even if it's not
>>  100% accurate. Certainly good enough to get people to take a look.
>>
>>  Here's the letter to the editor from the current issue of CM:
>>
>>  "Penguin Power"
>>  Thank you for the Ubuntu feature in cm129 -- it's quite literally
>>  changed the way I make music! I'd never even heard of Linux before,
>>  but having been inspired by your tutorial, I'm now 100% Ubuntu
>>  Studio-based when it comes to my music-making. I can't quite get my
>>  head around the fact that all this software is free, but just as
>>  powerful as many commercial systems.
>>
>>  I wholeheartedly recommend giving Ubuntu Studio a go to all your
>>  readers. You've got nothing to lose, after all, apart from a bit of
>>  hard-drive space!
>>  ---M.Haines, London.
>>
>>  [editor's response]
>>  Can't argue with that. To see Linux as nothing more than an operating
>>  system for the cash-strapped would be to do it and yourself a
>>  disservice. Ubuntu Studio more than holds its own against Windows, OS
>>  X and the music apps available for them -- give it a try; you can't
>>  fail to be amazed.
>>  ---RM
>>
>> --
>>  Cheers, SDM -- a 21st Century Schizoid Man
>>  Systems Theory internet music project: 
>>  on MySpace: 
>>  on Last FM: 
>>  get "Codetalkers" *free* at 
>>  NP: nothing
>>
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> 
> I agree with you. Having fingers point at us is always good, but we
> disagree with the image they gave from us.
> 
> Luckily the ones that know us, will know better. And some of the ones
> that don't know us to give it a try and see it is better. The bad
> thing is more people would've been interested with a better report.
> 
> But having some new users, is more than we can ask from them and we
> thank them. Let's hope next time they send us an email and we help
> them do a great article for the magazine.
> 
> Luis

That last part has been on my mind ever since I saw the CM article, 
wanting a much more in-depth examination.  A letter to them from the 
"Ubuntu Studio team" introducing the team, who y'all are, etc., might 
be a shrewd move, to establish a contact point/person at both CM & US.
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Re: Computer Music #129 article about Ubuntu Studio

[Luis de Bethencourt]

On 9/12/08, Steven Davies-Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cory K. wrote:
>  > Steven Davies-Morris wrote:
>  >> Luis de Bethencourt wrote:
>  >>
>  >>> The 6 scans can be downloaded and viewed from:
>  >>> http://luisbg.users.ubuntustudio.org/luisbg/computer_music/
>  >>>
>  >>> Awesome! Thanks Steven.
>  >>>
>  >>> Luis
>  >>>
>  >> You're welcome.  It doesn't tell us much we don't already know,
>  >> and it would have been nice if there'd been one more page of text
>  >>  going a bit deeper into Ubuntu Studio.  But the fact that they'd
>  >>  give it 6 pages and show the range of apps and say such positive
>  >>  things about it is a very good sign that Ubuntu Studio is going
>  >> to be taken seriously as a viable DAW environment.
>  >>
>  >
>  > What sux, is the fact that they're *not* using Studio. It's some
>  > completely messed up Ubuntu. Tons of icons. No Ardour or mention of
>  >  -rt. (that I can see yet) Didn't use the theme. We're pissed. It's
>  >  a misrepresentation.
>  >
>  > -Cory K.
>
>
> Um...they added the icons onto the desktop of standard Ubuntu because
>  Windows users expect to see icons on the desktop? ;-)
>
>  as I said, it's just a surface scratch, and another page going into
>  more about Ubuntu Studio (i.e. real-time kernel) would have been nice.
>  But it's a start -- a useful signpost on the road, even if it's not
>  100% accurate. Certainly good enough to get people to take a look.
>
>  Here's the letter to the editor from the current issue of CM:
>
>  "Penguin Power"
>  Thank you for the Ubuntu feature in cm129 -- it's quite literally
>  changed the way I make music! I'd never even heard of Linux before,
>  but having been inspired by your tutorial, I'm now 100% Ubuntu
>  Studio-based when it comes to my music-making. I can't quite get my
>  head around the fact that all this software is free, but just as
>  powerful as many commercial systems.
>
>  I wholeheartedly recommend giving Ubuntu Studio a go to all your
>  readers. You've got nothing to lose, after all, apart from a bit of
>  hard-drive space!
>  ---M.Haines, London.
>
>  [editor's response]
>  Can't argue with that. To see Linux as nothing more than an operating
>  system for the cash-strapped would be to do it and yourself a
>  disservice. Ubuntu Studio more than holds its own against Windows, OS
>  X and the music apps available for them -- give it a try; you can't
>  fail to be amazed.
>  ---RM
>
> --
>  Cheers, SDM -- a 21st Century Schizoid Man
>  Systems Theory internet music project: 
>  on MySpace: 
>  on Last FM: 
>  get "Codetalkers" *free* at 
>  NP: nothing
>
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I agree with you. Having fingers point at us is always good, but we
disagree with the image they gave from us.

Luckily the ones that know us, will know better. And some of the ones
that don't know us to give it a try and see it is better. The bad
thing is more people would've been interested with a better report.

But having some new users, is more than we can ask from them and we
thank them. Let's hope next time they send us an email and we help
them do a great article for the magazine.

Luis

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Re: Computer Music #129 article about Ubuntu Studio

[Steven Davies-Morris]

Cory K. wrote:
> Steven Davies-Morris wrote:
>> Luis de Bethencourt wrote:
>> 
>>> The 6 scans can be downloaded and viewed from: 
>>> http://luisbg.users.ubuntustudio.org/luisbg/computer_music/
>>> 
>>> Awesome! Thanks Steven.
>>> 
>>> Luis
>>> 
>> You're welcome.  It doesn't tell us much we don't already know, 
>> and it would have been nice if there'd been one more page of text
>>  going a bit deeper into Ubuntu Studio.  But the fact that they'd
>>  give it 6 pages and show the range of apps and say such positive
>>  things about it is a very good sign that Ubuntu Studio is going 
>> to be taken seriously as a viable DAW environment.
>> 
> 
> What sux, is the fact that they're *not* using Studio. It's some 
> completely messed up Ubuntu. Tons of icons. No Ardour or mention of
>  -rt. (that I can see yet) Didn't use the theme. We're pissed. It's
>  a misrepresentation.
> 
> -Cory K.

Um...they added the icons onto the desktop of standard Ubuntu because
Windows users expect to see icons on the desktop? ;-)

as I said, it's just a surface scratch, and another page going into
more about Ubuntu Studio (i.e. real-time kernel) would have been nice.
But it's a start -- a useful signpost on the road, even if it's not
100% accurate. Certainly good enough to get people to take a look.

Here's the letter to the editor from the current issue of CM:

"Penguin Power"
Thank you for the Ubuntu feature in cm129 -- it's quite literally
changed the way I make music! I'd never even heard of Linux before,
but having been inspired by your tutorial, I'm now 100% Ubuntu
Studio-based when it comes to my music-making. I can't quite get my
head around the fact that all this software is free, but just as
powerful as many commercial systems.

I wholeheartedly recommend giving Ubuntu Studio a go to all your
readers. You've got nothing to lose, after all, apart from a bit of
hard-drive space!
---M.Haines, London.

[editor's response]
Can't argue with that. To see Linux as nothing more than an operating
system for the cash-strapped would be to do it and yourself a
disservice. Ubuntu Studio more than holds its own against Windows, OS
X and the music apps available for them -- give it a try; you can't
fail to be amazed.
---RM
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Re: Computer Music #129 article about Ubuntu Studio

[Cory K.]

Steven Davies-Morris wrote:
> Luis de Bethencourt wrote:
>   
>> The 6 scans can be downloaded and viewed from:
>> http://luisbg.users.ubuntustudio.org/luisbg/computer_music/
>>
>> Awesome! Thanks Steven.
>>
>> Luis
>> 
>
> You're welcome.  It doesn't tell us much we don't already know, and it 
> would have been nice if there'd been one more page of text going a bit 
> deeper into Ubuntu Studio.  But the fact that they'd give it 6 pages 
> and show the range of apps and say such positive things about it is a 
> very good sign that Ubuntu Studio is going to be taken seriously as a 
> viable DAW environment.
>   

What sux, is the fact that they're *not* using Studio. It's some
completely messed up Ubuntu. Tons of icons. No Ardour or mention of -rt.
(that I can see yet) Didn't use the theme. We're pissed. It's a
misrepresentation.

-Cory K.

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Re: Computer Music #129 article about Ubuntu Studio

[Steven Davies-Morris]

Luis de Bethencourt wrote:
> 
> The 6 scans can be downloaded and viewed from:
> http://luisbg.users.ubuntustudio.org/luisbg/computer_music/
> 
> Awesome! Thanks Steven.
> 
> Luis

You're welcome.  It doesn't tell us much we don't already know, and it 
would have been nice if there'd been one more page of text going a bit 
deeper into Ubuntu Studio.  But the fact that they'd give it 6 pages 
and show the range of apps and say such positive things about it is a 
very good sign that Ubuntu Studio is going to be taken seriously as a 
viable DAW environment.
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Re: Computer Music #129 article about Ubuntu Studio

[Luis de Bethencourt]

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Steven Davies-Morris
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Christopher Stamper wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Steven Davies-Morris
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'll email them on to you later today.  Due to the large size of
>> the pages there's some blurring around the edges, but most of it's
>> perfectly legible without having to squint.
>>
>>
>> Will they be uploaded somewhere? If not, I'd love to have them too.
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> -- Christopher Stamper
>
> They'll be on their way to the powers that be very soon. i.e. once I
> move them from my wife's Windows PC (with the scanner) to my Ubuntu
> Studio PC.
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The 6 scans can be downloaded and viewed from:
http://luisbg.users.ubuntustudio.org/luisbg/computer_music/

Awesome! Thanks Steven.

Luis

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Re: Computer Music #129 article about Ubuntu Studio

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> 
> Maybe Linux has an ocr app? To convert images with text to straight text? 
> Carla
> 
There are a couple of OCR programs.  Do an apt search for ocr (eg.
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Re: Computer Music #129 article about Ubuntu Studio

[Steven Davies-Morris]

Christopher Stamper wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Steven Davies-Morris 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'll email them on to you later today.  Due to the large size of 
> the pages there's some blurring around the edges, but most of it's 
> perfectly legible without having to squint.
> 
> 
> Will they be uploaded somewhere? If not, I'd love to have them too.
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> -- Christopher Stamper

They'll be on their way to the powers that be very soon. i.e. once I
move them from my wife's Windows PC (with the scanner) to my Ubuntu
Studio PC.
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Re: Computer Music #129 article about Ubuntu Studio

[psycho]

me too ;-)
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Re: Computer Music #129 article about Ubuntu Studio

[Christopher Stamper]

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Steven Davies-Morris <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> I'll email them on to you later today.  Due to the large size of
> the pages there's some blurring around the edges, but most of it's
> perfectly legible without having to squint.
>

Will they be uploaded somewhere? If not, I'd love to have them too.

Thanks!


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Re: Computer Music #129 article about Ubuntu Studio

[Carla]

--- On Thu, 11/9/08, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Computer Music #129 article about Ubuntu Studio
To: "Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion" 

Received: Thursday, 11 September, 2008, 7:31 AM

Steven Davies-Morris wrote:
> I've scanned the 6 pages as separate jpegs.  They are still in
> the 300-40kb range each even when reduced to 25% quality. Should
> I still go ahead an post them to the list?  I don't want to make
> things difficult for anyone on dialup, out of the blue getting 2
> megabytes of unexpected jpegs!  I can always email them directly
> to Luis.
>   

If you can link to hi-res images with a photo service that would rock.
Otherwise, an email to Luis or myself will work. We can host them elsewhere.

-Cory K

Maybe Linux has an ocr app? To convert images with text to straight text? Carla

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Re: Computer Music #129 article about Ubuntu Studio

[Steven Davies-Morris]

Cory K. wrote:
> Steven Davies-Morris wrote:
>> I've scanned the 6 pages as separate jpegs.  They are still in 
>> the 300-40kb range each even when reduced to 25% quality. Should 
>> I still go ahead an post them to the list?  I don't want to make 
>> things difficult for anyone on dialup, out of the blue getting 2 
>> megabytes of unexpected jpegs!  I can always email them directly 
>> to Luis.
>> 
> 
> If you can link to hi-res images with a photo service that would
> rock. Otherwise, an email to Luis or myself will work. We can host
> them elsewhere.
> 
> -Cory K

I'll email them on to you later today.  Due to the large size of
the pages there's some blurring around the edges, but most of it's
perfectly legible without having to squint.
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Re: Computer Music #129 article about Ubuntu Studio

[Cory K.]

Steven Davies-Morris wrote:
> I've scanned the 6 pages as separate jpegs.  They are still in
> the 300-40kb range each even when reduced to 25% quality. Should
> I still go ahead an post them to the list?  I don't want to make
> things difficult for anyone on dialup, out of the blue getting 2
> megabytes of unexpected jpegs!  I can always email them directly
> to Luis.
>   

If you can link to hi-res images with a photo service that would rock.
Otherwise, an email to Luis or myself will work. We can host them elsewhere.

-Cory K

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Computer Music #129 article about Ubuntu Studio

[Steven Davies-Morris]

I've scanned the 6 pages as separate jpegs.  They are still in
the 300-40kb range each even when reduced to 25% quality. Should
I still go ahead an post them to the list?  I don't want to make
things difficult for anyone on dialup, out of the blue getting 2
megabytes of unexpected jpegs!  I can always email them directly
to Luis.
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