Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-14 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Dennis Herber kirjoitti:

> I did - and there I have sound!!!

Well done ;-)

> My next step is now to get my signal fro mthe bass-guitar into the PC.

I'll have to go to work now, see you later tonight.


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Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-14 Thread Dennis Herber
> I put my screenshots about alsamixer and envy24control online:

I did - and there I have sound!!! But that's of no really use now, because I am 
really getting insane now - we tried all of these point already and now they 
work - wtf?!? Perhaps really bad mood rays at my playe???

But okay, lets see: I even did reactivate the onboard-soundcard (which 
apperently is the only thing that changed). So I guess the reason why I did not 
work up to now will never be revealed.

My next step is now to get my signal fro mthe bass-guitar into the PC. I do get 
a on "Monitor inputs", so here all right. I think I will go into jack now. With 
which paramters do you start the jackd?

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Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-13 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Dennis Neumeier kirjoitti:

> So is there any way to configure this under Linux? I am quite confused 
> now, because the terms are different in both OS. Perhaps somebody can help 
> here and clear up the fog of terms?

I put my screenshots about alsamixer and envy24control online:

http://arkki.info/howto/Ubuntu_Studio/Alsa_envy24control/

Dennis, bare with us - try to config alsamixer and envy24control just 
like mine. We have same hardware.

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Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-13 Thread Dennis Neumeier
I just noticed something a little bit strange. I booted into my Windows just 
to see if the soundcard is working there. And when I look into the settings, 
I did see the following:

- Windows is using the device "S/PDIF" Output from the Delta 66 as standard 
output device.

- in the M-Audio mixer, the settings are as follows:
SPDIF-Output-source: "sw rtn"
1/2 out: Mixer

I noticed that when I am changing the output of "spdif out" to "mixer", I have 
quite the same situation as under Linux: I can see the level-meters of "spdif 
out" and the "master" moving, but no output. This only changes when I 
set "spdif out" to "sw rtn" and "1/2 out" to "mixer"

Now the problem: I can´t really transfer "sw rtn" onto my Linux system, 
because we have other names for that here. But perhaps this helps to find the 
cause? So is there any way to configure this under Linux? I am quite confused 
now, because the terms are different in both OS. Perhaps somebody can help 
here and clear up the fog of terms?

Regards,
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Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-13 Thread DennisMail
I just noticed something a little bit strange. I booted into my Windows just to 
see if the soundcard is working there. And when I look into the settings, I did 
see the following:

- Windows is using the device "S/PDIF" Output from the Delta 66 as standard 
output device.

- in the M-Audio mixer, the settings are as follows:
SPDIF-Output-source: "sw rtn"
1/2 out: Mixer

I noticed that when I am changing the output of "spdif out" to "mixer", I have 
quite the same situation as under Linux: I can see the level-meters of "spdif 
out" and the "master" moving, but no output. This only changes when I set 
"spdif out" to "sw rtn" and "1/2 out" to "mixer"

Now the problem: I can´t really transfer "sw rtn" onto my Linux system, because 
we have other names for that here. But perhaps this helps to find the cause? So 
is there any way to configure this under Linux? I am quite confused now, 
because the terms are different in both OS. Perhaps somebody can help here and 
clear up the fog of terms?

Regards,
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Fwd: Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-13 Thread DennisMail
I just noticed something a little bit strange. I booted into my Windows just to 
see if the soundcard is working there. And when I look into the settings, I did 
see the following:

- Windows is using the device "S/PDIF" Output from the Delta 66 as standard 
output device.

- in the M-Audio mixer, the settings are as follows:
SPDIF-Output-source: "sw rtn"
1/2 out: Mixer

I noticed that when I am changing the output of "spdif out" to "mixer", I have 
quite the same situation as under Linux: I can see the level-meters of "spdif 
out" and the "master" moving, but no output. This only changes when I set 
"spdif out" to "sw rtn" and "1/2 out" to "mixer"

Now the problem: I can´t really transfer "sw rtn" onto my Linux system, because 
we have other names for that here. But perhaps this helps to find the cause? So 
is there any way to configure this under Linux? I am quite confused now, 
because the terms are different in both OS. Perhaps somebody can help here and 
clear up the fog of terms?

Regards,
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Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-13 Thread Dennis Neumeier
> Dennis, you do not have rev E, but rev 02 as is mine. Maybe this really
> helps you - try it.

I am really getting depressed a little bit: You have exactly the same card as 
I do - mine does not give out something while yours do? Bad moon rays at may 
place with prevents my card from plying??? :)

> options snd-ice1712 model=delta1010lt
> then saved.
> typed 'sudo alsa force-reload' at the prompt - which picks up the card.

I did all of that - no sound, still...

> 'sudo apt-get install alsa-tools-gui' (for envy24control - would this be
> automagically installed if detected?)
> 'envy24control &' (including the ampersand to keep the console available)
> Turned DAC 4,5,6,7 up to bring sound to outputs 1 & 2
> 'aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav' then gives you a burst of
> static white noise.

I see that envy shows a signal when playing Noise.wav, but nothing to hear...

I still did not give up hope...

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Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-13 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Dennis Herber kirjoitti:

> What about this oss thing - I mean, on M-Audios site, they do refer to oss. 
> But as far as I know, oss is rather not the soundsystem to use, or?

No - alsa it is.

I have to ask one more time  - did you those steps from that old howto?

1. cat /proc/asound/cards
2. alsamixer -D hw:X
3. aplay *.wav

If there is no noise after these steps, then I have no more ideas.

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Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-13 Thread Dennis Herber
> I have my sound card working!!
> I set a diferent model for my Delta66 in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base. I 
> put “options snd-ice1712 model=delta1010lt”.

I tried this - but unfortunately, no success :(

> Dennis, I do not need that, but who knows, maybe that option works for

Well, thanks a lot so far, but I guess we're getting to the end of ideas here, 
or does anyone of you still have any idea?

What about this oss thing - I mean, on M-Audios site, they do refer to oss. But 
as far as I know, oss is rather not the soundsystem to use, or?

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Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-12 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:

> I have my sound card working!!
> I set a diferent model for my Delta66 in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base. I 
> put “options snd-ice1712 model=delta1010lt”.

Dennis, you do not have rev E, but rev 02 as is mine. Maybe this really 
helps you - try it.


"OK, on a live CD of Intrepid (daily) I have:

edited /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-utils and added the following:

options snd-ice1712 model=delta1010lt

then saved.

typed 'sudo alsa force-reload' at the prompt - which picks up the card.

'sudo apt-get install alsa-tools-gui' (for envy24control - would this be 
automagically installed if detected?)

'envy24control &' (including the ampersand to keep the console available)

Turned DAC 4,5,6,7 up to bring sound to outputs 1 & 2
'aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav' then gives you a burst of 
static white noise.

THANK YOU! :-D"

https://bugs.launchpad.net/alsa-driver/+bug/280847/comments/9

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/280847


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Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-12 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:

> http://www.nue.tu-berlin.de/wer/batke/Download/delta66howto.pdf

"I have my sound card

I have my sound card working!!
I set a diferent model for my Delta66 in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base. I 
put “options snd-ice1712 model=delta1010lt”.

I had recently installed Ubuntu Studio 8.04 Kernel 2.6.24-16-rt

All seems to be equal till I raise up DAC4 and DAC5 volumes in 
AnalogVolume tab on Envy24Control.
Move DAC6 and DAC7 to."

http://ardour.org/node/1198


Dennis, I do not need that, but who knows, maybe that option works for you.

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Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-12 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Dennis Herber kirjoitti:

> Did I misunderstood here something completely?

Today I have four Ubuntu (two stable versions and two Jaunty Alpha) in 
my main computer, even LTSP (ltsp.org) works on KVM with Pulseaudio. To 
me Delta 66 has always been real Plug 'n' Play soundcard - you remember 
time when everything was Plug 'n' Pray...

There is very old (2002) howto for Delta 66:

http://www.nue.tu-berlin.de/wer/batke/Download/delta66howto.pdf

Today you just put this soundcard it in and it works. Let's do something 
with that old howto. Do same in your computer.

1.

cat /proc/asound/cards - OK to me.

  0 [M66]: ICE1712 - M Audio Delta 66
   M Audio Delta 66 at 0x1040, irq 22
  1 [U0x46d0x990]: USB-Audio - USB Device 0x46d:0x990
   USB Device 0x46d:0x990 at usb-:00:1d.7-1.2, 
high speed

#1 is webcam with built-in microphone.

2.

alsamixer -D hw:0 - OK to me.

3.

aplay *.wav - OK to me.

  mpg123 -w 01\ -\ Drive\ My\ Car.wav 01\ -\ Drive\ My\ Car.mp3
High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 Audio Player for Layer 1, 2, and 3.
Version 0.59q (2002/03/23). Written and copyrights by Joe Drew.
Uses code from various people. See 'README' for more!
THIS SOFTWARE COMES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!
Title  : Drive My CarArtist: The Beatles 

Album  : Rubber Soul Year  : 1965
Comment: Genre : 


Playing MPEG stream from 01 - Drive My Car.mp3 ...
MPEG 1.0 layer III, 128 kbit/s, 44100 Hz stereo

[2:30] Decoding of 01 - Drive My Car.mp3 finished.

aplay 01\ -\ Drive\ My\ Car.wav
Toistetaan WAVE '01 - Drive My Car.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, 
Taajuus 44100 Hz, Stereo


If you are OK in every three point, then I really do not understand why 
you can't hear anything.

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Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-12 Thread DennisMail
> Can you check in Envy24 to see if your monitor inputs are unmuted?

They seem to be unmunted: They are light grey, not dark grey. But this leads us 
to another point: Should I see any level moving here? I don't think so, because 
on the "monitor inputs" I can control the 4 hardware inputs of the break out 
box plus the 2 spdif inputs, as far as I see. Or am I wrong?

Anyway, for today, I think I should switch my PC off, because I'm really 
getting desperate. I was thinking about what can be done about this and I just 
wanted to propose that if any of you would like to check this on my PC, I would 
be willing to give ssh access to it.

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Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-12 Thread alex stone
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Dennis Herber  wrote:

> > Dennis, i'm trying to think through what might be happening that we're
> not
> > seeing.
> >
> > A quick question.
> >
> > Have you increased the volume on the control in the desktop panel?
>
> Well, I know that this is some of the most ridiculous things that may
> happen, so yes: I did that before trying to play something.
>
> What I still didn't get is all this connection between all the programs I
> am using here: Generally, I thought that programs like "alsamixer" and
> "envy24control" are controlling the same thing. And if I change a level of a
> fader in alsamixer, I see the same fader moving in envy.
> What concerns the control in the desktop panel: This one generally also
> does that, or? Did I misunderstood here something completely?
>
> Regards,
> Dennis
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Can you check in Envy24 to see if your monitor inputs are unmuted?

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Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-12 Thread Dennis Herber
> Dennis, i'm trying to think through what might be happening that we're not
> seeing.
> 
> A quick question.
> 
> Have you increased the volume on the control in the desktop panel?

Well, I know that this is some of the most ridiculous things that may happen, 
so yes: I did that before trying to play something.

What I still didn't get is all this connection between all the programs I am 
using here: Generally, I thought that programs like "alsamixer" and 
"envy24control" are controlling the same thing. And if I change a level of a 
fader in alsamixer, I see the same fader moving in envy.
What concerns the control in the desktop panel: This one generally also does 
that, or? Did I misunderstood here something completely?

Regards,
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Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-12 Thread alex stone
Dennis, i'm trying to think through what might be happening that we're not
seeing.

A quick question.

Have you increased the volume on the control in the desktop panel?

(Grasping for fruitful straws here.)

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Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-12 Thread DennisMail
> One other thing. Is pulseaudio running. You might try typing 'killall
> pulseaudio' in a terminal and then test again.

The idea was good:

$ ps aux | grep pulse
michael   5904  0.0  0.4 140344  8552 ?Sl   18:15   0:00 
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --log-target=syslog
michael   5912  0.0  0.1  55680  2632 ?S18:15   0:00 
/usr/lib/pulseaudio/pulse/gconf-helper
michael   6585  0.0  0.0   5176   864 pts/2S+   18:53   0:00 grep pulse

$ killall -9 pulseaudio 
$ ps aux | grep pulse
michael   6595  0.0  0.0   5172   852 pts/2S+   18:53   0:00 grep pulse

But... still no sound output... :(

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Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-12 Thread Daniel Joshua Worth
One other thing. Is pulseaudio running. You might try typing 'killall
pulseaudio' in a terminal and then test again.
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Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-12 Thread DennisMail
Hi all,

> Personally, i wouldn't send back your card. The M-audio hardware has
> stable
> and reliable drivers (modules) in linux, and there's plenty of users who
> have much success with them, me included. (Mine's a Delta 44, but the
> Ice1712 module is still the same)

So sounds good... I keep on hoping, but right now, I am close to give up...
 
> The fact you're getting a signal in Envy24 is a good sign. So follow the
> signal. Up to Envy24, you have success, as the meters show. Daniel quite
> rightly suggested you check your ADCs and DACs. Do so, and put them up to
> a
> reasonable level. Next, if you're getting a signal in the digital mixer
> strip, that's good too, it means the signal is getting that far.
> 
> In the patchbay/router tab of Envy 24, make sure you have ticked:
> 
> PCM Out 1, PCM Out 2, etc..

I checked this, all options on the top are activated.
 
> And in the Analog Volume tab, lift the levels to something reasonable that
> won't be too soft to hear, or conversly, frighten the neighbours. 90 would
> probably do here to begin with.
> Try your sound again.

I did this, too...
 
> If successful, excellent.

No, unfortunately, not. Here a few questions: What are your settings in the 
system setup (where you can select standard devices for playback of sound, 
videos etc)?

Additionally, I tried to  use alsamixer, but no matter what I did - no output.

> So to a test app. Audacity is't a good choice.

What I did is to play the mp3-file with  both mpg123 and mpg123-alsa. No 
sound... :(

> If you're on UBStudio (and i assume this from the list heading), then i
> suggest you download through synpatic, a simple synth to test with. When i
> first started figuring out how to use Linux Audio, i used an app call
> Hexter. It's a simple DX7 emulator, and possesses single audio out and
> midi
> in, and importantly, gives you an immediate response, be it success or
> temporary failure, because it's a synth, and doesn't require extra sound
> libraries or soundfonts.

Well, I guess if I don't even get an mp3 file to play, I shouldn't start with 
any recording or playback software delivered with ubuntu studio...
 
> So how do you hook your midi keyboard into Hexter?

Not at all - because I do not own a midi keyboard till now. I only want to 
record my bass guitar. And, btw, I don't get any signal on the inputs as well 
shown in envy
 
> At kernel level, you'll find Alsa, and your ice1712 module is inserted
> there.

 $ lsmod | grep 1712
snd_ice171274336  2 
snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx  5888  1 snd_ice1712
snd_ak4xxx_adda10880  2 snd_ice1712,snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx
snd_cs8427 11904  1 snd_ice1712
snd_ac97_codec123992  1 snd_ice1712
snd_pcm93320  4 
snd_ice1712,snd_ac97_codec,snd_usb_audio,snd_pcm_oss
snd_i2c 7936  2 snd_ice1712,snd_cs8427
snd_mpu401_uart11392  1 snd_ice1712
snd71880  26 
snd_rtctimer,snd_ice1712,snd_ak4xxx_adda,snd_cs8427,snd_ac97_codec,snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,snd_pcm_oss,snd_hwdep,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_i2c,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device

So I guess this sould work?!?

> But a level above that is the mighty Jack, a powerful 'Hub' that enables
> you
> have several apps, or 'clients' working together at the same time. Jack
> intereacts with Alsa using a 'backend', which is the software sound device
> of your choice, be it Alsa, oss, Ffado, Freebob, or dummy.
> So the next step is to install, from Synaptic, Jackd, and Qjackctl. This
> will give you not only the Jack Hub, or Server, as it's called, but a user
> interface in the form of Qjackctl (Also known as Jack Control).

Well, jack comes afterwards. If I don't get any output right now, I won be 
successful with jack in any way, or? That's why I believe we first have to get 
sound output working at all and then go to jack - or am I wrong?
 
> p.s. Setting up audio/midi in linux in general isn't as difficult as it
> looks. It's just different, and requires a little thought and patience on
> the part of the user.
> And we've all been where you are now. :)

I really want to believe you - but if you see that all people owning the same 
soundcard as you do and they do get output through speakers while I don't... 
Well, I beginn to get crazy a little bit now.

But perhaps we find the cause? I really hope so.

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Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-12 Thread alex stone
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:22 AM,  wrote:

> > I've never been able to get audacity to work right on my machine using a
> > Delta 1010lt.
>
> Okay, but I tried to get an Output with Audacious, with mp123, with
> mpg123-alsa... Nothing, everytime the same result: The level-meters show a
> signal, but nothing is coming out of speakers...
>
> Does anyone have an idea?
>
> Background: I can send back the soundcard if it does not work. So already
> now the second question: If the M-Audio 66 is not the only card you would
> suggest, what else may I buy and works under Linux? I know that you
> certainly will support me here to get this working, but from my point of
> view, it does not really help me nor do all of you have the time to look
> what's wrong on my system... I'd prefer to et it working, yes, but if there
> is another card for recording that works out of the box on ubuntu studio,
> well, then the solution is quite near!
>
> Regards,
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Dennis,
Personally, i wouldn't send back your card. The M-audio hardware has stable
and reliable drivers (modules) in linux, and there's plenty of users who
have much success with them, me included. (Mine's a Delta 44, but the
Ice1712 module is still the same)

The fact you're getting a signal in Envy24 is a good sign. So follow the
signal. Up to Envy24, you have success, as the meters show. Daniel quite
rightly suggested you check your ADCs and DACs. Do so, and put them up to a
reasonable level. Next, if you're getting a signal in the digital mixer
strip, that's good too, it means the signal is getting that far.

In the patchbay/router tab of Envy 24, make sure you have ticked:

PCM Out 1, PCM Out 2, etc..

And in the Analog Volume tab, lift the levels to something reasonable that
won't be too soft to hear, or conversly, frighten the neighbours. 90 would
probably do here to begin with.
Try your sound again.

If successful, excellent.
If not, read on..

So to a test app. Audacity is't a good choice.

If you're on UBStudio (and i assume this from the list heading), then i
suggest you download through synpatic, a simple synth to test with. When i
first started figuring out how to use Linux Audio, i used an app call
Hexter. It's a simple DX7 emulator, and possesses single audio out and midi
in, and importantly, gives you an immediate response, be it success or
temporary failure, because it's a synth, and doesn't require extra sound
libraries or soundfonts.

So how do you hook your midi keyboard into Hexter?

At kernel level, you'll find Alsa, and your ice1712 module is inserted
there.

But a level above that is the mighty Jack, a powerful 'Hub' that enables you
have several apps, or 'clients' working together at the same time. Jack
intereacts with Alsa using a 'backend', which is the software sound device
of your choice, be it Alsa, oss, Ffado, Freebob, or dummy.
So the next step is to install, from Synaptic, Jackd, and Qjackctl. This
will give you not only the Jack Hub, or Server, as it's called, but a user
interface in the form of Qjackctl (Also known as Jack Control).

Once you've done this, open Qjackctl, and go to setup.

In the setup window, you'll find some settings on the right, starting from
near the top, which is the driver selection. As you've already had success
with an Alsa/Envy signal response, choose Alsa.

Next, you'll see a drop down box marked Interface. You can leave this as
default for now, provided you selected Alsa as the sound weapon of choice.

Then go down to Audio. Here you 'll see three dropdown options, Duplex,
Capture, and Playback. For now, leave this on duplex.

Next, you'll see input device, and output device, These are, by default, set
on, erm, default. With the arrow to the right of each box check the device.
Mine has Delta 44 as hw:0, and Ice1712 as hw:0.0. If this is the case with
you, then leave these as default, for now.

Now go to the middle of the setup window, and find Frames/Period (leave the
priority selection alone for now.)
We'll try a relaxed setting first of 1024.

Then sample rate. Check in the Envy24 hardware settings tab, for which
sample rate you have ticked. (Mine is 44100, but many users run with 48000,
so if you hav either of these, it's ok)

Back to the Qjackctl setup window.

Set the samplerate to that which matches your Envy hardware setting. (In my
case it's 44100)

Next, Periods/Buffer. Set this to a safe "3".

Next settings are Port Maximum, and Timeout. You can leave the Port Max as
is, but change the Timeout to 2000, as this will give your system some
'slack' to work with.

Then go to Start Delay, and make this 2secs, if it isn't already.

Lastly, go to the bottom left corner of the setup window, and 

Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-12 Thread Daniel Joshua Worth
In envy24control you need to make sure that the ADC's and DAC's are turned
up, that the signal is being routed to pcm outs, that your clock is set to a
reasonable setting. (I once accidentally set my clock to sync to spdif and
couldn't change the clock settings till I plugged in a digital source), and
that you don't have any of the channels muted in the mixer. Also go to the
command line and type in alsa-mixer and check that your levels are turned up
there as well.
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Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-11 Thread DennisMail
> I've never been able to get audacity to work right on my machine using a
> Delta 1010lt.

Okay, but I tried to get an Output with Audacious, with mp123, with 
mpg123-alsa... Nothing, everytime the same result: The level-meters show a 
signal, but nothing is coming out of speakers...

Does anyone have an idea?

Background: I can send back the soundcard if it does not work. So already now 
the second question: If the M-Audio 66 is not the only card you would suggest, 
what else may I buy and works under Linux? I know that you certainly will 
support me here to get this working, but from my point of view, it does not 
really help me nor do all of you have the time to look what's wrong on my 
system... I'd prefer to et it working, yes, but if there is another card for 
recording that works out of the box on ubuntu studio, well, then the solution 
is quite near!

Regards,
Dennis
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Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-11 Thread Daniel Joshua Worth
I've never been able to get audacity to work right on my machine using a
Delta 1010lt.
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Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-11 Thread DennisMail
> Dennis,
> In your Envy24 pic you have the pcm out sliders muted. Try unmuting them
> and
> see what happens.

Well, I tried pressing them several times, but nothing came out of my 
speakers.Still, I get a signal shown on the left "Digital Mixer". I guess it 
may related to the outputs of Audacity and the settings of the patchbay in 
envy. But I am not quite sure about these, perhaps you may support me here?

Regards,
Dennis

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Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-11 Thread alex stone
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 1:39 PM,  wrote:

> Hi there again,
>
> so here we go again... What I did so far: I deinstalled everything related
> to oss and rebootet. Now, here's where I stand:
>
> $ lsmod | grep 1712
> snd_ice171274336  4
> snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx  5888  1 snd_ice1712
> snd_ak4xxx_adda10880  2 snd_ice1712,snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx
> snd_cs8427 11904  1 snd_ice1712
> snd_ac97_codec123992  1 snd_ice1712
> snd_pcm93320  5
> snd_usb_audio,snd_ice1712,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
> snd_i2c 7936  2 snd_ice1712,snd_cs8427
> snd_mpu401_uart11392  1 snd_ice1712
> snd71880  23
> snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,snd_hwdep,snd_ice1712,snd_ak4xxx_adda,snd_cs8427,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_i2c,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rtctimer,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
>
> I guess this looks rather good. But still I hear nothing. I launched a mp3
> with totem (the application I use should not matter, or?) and totem plays
> like hell. I tried both "alsamixer" and "anvy24control" (see attached
> screenshots). In envy, I see that something is moving, but I hear nothing.
> What I noticed im comparisonm to your screenshots is that you see both in
> alsamixer and envy the sound device "M-Audio Delta 66" whereas in my
> screenshots, it says "ICEnsemble ICE1712 at...". May this be the reason?
>
> Regards,
> Dennis
>
>  Original-Nachricht 
> > Datum: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 21:56:39 +0200
> > Von: Asmo Koskinen 
> > An: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion <
> ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Betreff: Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working
>
> > dennism...@gmx.net kirjoitti:
> >
> > > So let's begin with the details. I disabled the on-board soundcard in
> > BIOS and rebooted.
> >
> > Good.
> >
> > > 02:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712
> > [Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller (rev 02)
> >
> > Yes. I have exactly same line.
> >
> > 06:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712
> > [Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller (rev 02)
> >
> > > "oss-linux-4.1-1051_amd64.deb" -- installed it. So far, so good.
> >
> > > $ ossinfo
> > > $ ossxmix
> > > $ osstest
> >
> > I strongly believe that you really do not need these, we play with alsa
> > (+jackd, +pulseaudio) here, not with oss.
> >
> > I use for both computers Ubuntu Studio 8.04 AMD64. You are using Ubuntu
> > Studio 8.04 AMD64, right?
> >
> > So I (and you) have the driver (module) on right place. No need for
> > anything else.
> >
> > $ lsmod | grep ice1712
> >
> > snd_ice171268644  1
> > snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx 11648  1 snd_ice1712
> > snd_ak4xxx_adda16512  2 snd_ice1712,snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx
> > snd_cs8427 16256  1 snd_ice1712
> > snd_ac97_codec111652  1 snd_ice1712
> > snd_pcm83204  4
> > snd_usb_audio,snd_ice1712,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
> > snd_i2c13440  2 snd_ice1712,snd_cs8427
> > snd_mpu401_uart15360  1 snd_ice1712
> > snd63268  18
> >
> snd_usb_audio,snd_ice1712,snd_ak4xxx_adda,snd_hwdep,snd_cs8427,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_i2c,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
> >
> > Use "alsamixer" for every four channel, lift (arrow keys) them near to
> > 77 - all should be in green, not red anywhere. Then quit qiwt "q".
> >
> > $ alsamixer
> >
> > http://www.arkki.info/howto/Ubuntu_Studio/04.png
> > http://www.arkki.info/howto/Ubuntu_Studio/05.png
> >
> > Same with "envy24control".
> >
> > $ envy24control
> >
> > http://www.arkki.info/howto/Ubuntu_Studio/06.png
> > http://www.arkki.info/howto/Ubuntu_Studio/07.png
> > http://www.arkki.info/howto/Ubuntu_Studio/07.png
> >
> > Now you plug your monitors to the break out box - OUTS 1 and 2.
> >
> > If play some mp3 files with vlc/rhythmbox/younameit, there should be
> > noise/sound/music.
> >
> > Audacity works at this point, too.
> >
> > http://www.arkki.info/howto/Ubuntu_Studio/20.png
> >
> > 
> >
> > So play first with "alsamixer" and physical OUTS, then we go deeper - to
> > the world of the Jackd.
> >
> > Best Regards Asmo Koskinen.
> >
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Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-07 Thread Asmo Koskinen
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti:

> Use "alsamixer" for every four channel, lift (arrow keys) them near to 
> 77 - all should be in green, not red anywhere. Then quit qiwt "q".

Use "esc" for quit, not "q", sorry.

Best Regards Asmo Koskinen.

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Re: Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-07 Thread Asmo Koskinen
dennism...@gmx.net kirjoitti:

> So let's begin with the details. I disabled the on-board soundcard in BIOS 
> and rebooted.

Good.

> 02:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712 [Envy24] 
> PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller (rev 02)

Yes. I have exactly same line.

06:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712 
[Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller (rev 02)

> "oss-linux-4.1-1051_amd64.deb" -- installed it. So far, so good.

> $ ossinfo
> $ ossxmix
> $ osstest

I strongly believe that you really do not need these, we play with alsa 
(+jackd, +pulseaudio) here, not with oss.

I use for both computers Ubuntu Studio 8.04 AMD64. You are using Ubuntu 
Studio 8.04 AMD64, right?

So I (and you) have the driver (module) on right place. No need for 
anything else.

$ lsmod | grep ice1712

snd_ice171268644  1
snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx 11648  1 snd_ice1712
snd_ak4xxx_adda16512  2 snd_ice1712,snd_ice17xx_ak4xxx
snd_cs8427 16256  1 snd_ice1712
snd_ac97_codec111652  1 snd_ice1712
snd_pcm83204  4 
snd_usb_audio,snd_ice1712,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_i2c13440  2 snd_ice1712,snd_cs8427
snd_mpu401_uart15360  1 snd_ice1712
snd63268  18 
snd_usb_audio,snd_ice1712,snd_ak4xxx_adda,snd_hwdep,snd_cs8427,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_i2c,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device

Use "alsamixer" for every four channel, lift (arrow keys) them near to 
77 - all should be in green, not red anywhere. Then quit qiwt "q".

$ alsamixer

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Ubuntu_Studio/04.png
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Ubuntu_Studio/05.png

Same with "envy24control".

$ envy24control

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Ubuntu_Studio/06.png
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Ubuntu_Studio/07.png
http://www.arkki.info/howto/Ubuntu_Studio/07.png

Now you plug your monitors to the break out box - OUTS 1 and 2.

If play some mp3 files with vlc/rhythmbox/younameit, there should be 
noise/sound/music.

Audacity works at this point, too.

http://www.arkki.info/howto/Ubuntu_Studio/20.png



So play first with "alsamixer" and physical OUTS, then we go deeper - to 
the world of the Jackd.

Best Regards Asmo Koskinen.

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Getting M-Audio Delta 66 working

2009-03-07 Thread DennisMail
Hello list,

I just got my M-Audio Delta 66 soundcard today and I got it in my system. Now, 
I tried to get it work, but I just can get something out of the card.

So let's begin with the details. I disabled the on-board soundcard in BIOS and 
rebooted. So lets see:

$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 Host Bridge
00:02.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express 
Graphics Port 0)
00:12.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA
00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI0)
00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI1)
00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI2)
00:13.3 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI3)
00:13.4 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB (OHCI4)
00:13.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 USB Controller (EHCI)
00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 14)
00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 IDE
00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge
00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address 
Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM 
Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
Miscellaneous Control
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8800 GT (rev a2)
02:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI 
Multi-Channel I/O Controller (rev 02)
02:0e.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB23 IEEE-1394a-2000 
Controller (PHY/Link)
02:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8110SC/8169SC 
Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10)

I am not quite sure, but there is a PCI Multi-Channel card which should be 
mine. As I saw on the m-audio site that drivers for this card are available 
from opensound.com, I downloaded the file " oss-linux-4.1-1051_amd64.deb" there 
and installed it. So far, so good.

Now, next goal would be that the soundcard is giving out something via one of 
the 4 outputs. And this is were I fail. So lets see:

$ ossinfo
Version info: OSS 4.1 (b 1051/200812302211) (0x00040100) 
Platform: Linux/x86_64 2.6.24-23-rt #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Mon Jan 26 02:32:55 UTC 
2009 (mick-recstudio)

Number of audio devices:10
Number of audio engines:10
Number of mixer devices:2


Device objects
 0: osscore0 OSS core services
 1: oss_envy240 M Audio Delta 66 interrupts=1704919 (1704919)
 2: oss_usb0 USB audio core services
 3: usb046d08b2-0 Logitec Quickcam Pro 4000 (mic)
 4: usb046d08b2-1 Logitec Quickcam Pro 4000 (mic)


Mixer devices
 0: M Audio Delta 66 (Mixer 0 of device object 1)
 1: Logitec Quickcam Pro 4000 (mic) (Mixer 0 of device object 3)

Audio devices
M Audio Delta 66 out1/2   /dev/oss/oss_envy240/pcm0  (device index 0)
M Audio Delta 66 out3/4   /dev/oss/oss_envy240/pcm1  (device index 1)
M Audio Delta 66 S/PDIF out   /dev/oss/oss_envy240/spdout  (device index 2)
M Audio Delta 66 in1/2/dev/oss/oss_envy240/pcmin0  (device index 3)
M Audio Delta 66 in3/4/dev/oss/oss_envy240/pcmin1  (device index 4)
M Audio Delta 66 S/PDIF in/dev/oss/oss_envy240/spdin  (device index 5)
M Audio Delta 66 input from mon. mixer   /dev/oss/oss_envy240/mon  (device 
index 6)
M Audio Delta 66 (all outputs)/dev/oss/oss_envy240/10ch_out  (device index 
7)
M Audio Delta 66 (all inputs) /dev/oss/oss_envy240/12ch_in  (device index 8)
Logitec Quickcam Pro 4000 (mic) rec  /dev/oss/usb046d08b2-1/pcmin0  (device 
index 9)

Ah, the soundcard is correctly detected. So I start

$ ossxmix

and, in another bash

$ osstest

In ossxmix, I see that something is happening, but I can't hear something via 
speakers or headphones. I guess it has to do something with jackd, but as I am 
not quite into the basics, perhaps somebody could tell me what I am doing 
wrong? Thanks a lot

Regards,
Dennis


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