Re: No sound without JACK

2010-09-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 02:00 +0200, Pablo wrote:
 Hi Ralf!
 
 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 
  1. How should sound be enabled usually for apps without JACK audio support  
  on Ubuntu Studio?
 
  Could there be an issue regarding to PA not loading the needed modules?
  I'm using two Envy24 based Terratec EWX 24/96 PCI sound cards on amd64  
  architecture, on-board sound is disabled.

 Check this:
 
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/178442
 
 I did as comment #30 and it worked for me with a m-audio audiophile 2496 
 which also uses the alsa module snd-ice1712. The problem remains in 
 ubuntustudio maverick alpha. See:
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntustudio-test...@lists.launchpad.net/msg00351.html

I had the same issue with Suse 11.2 and I could solve it by adding those
two lines for Suse 11.2 too.

@ Pablo: Thank you, thank you, thank you Pablo :)

@ anybody who is pro PA: PA for rt audio users is a PITA. It might have
advantages for the averaged desktop user, but we should get rid of it
for rt audio distros.

As I told before, until now I prefer 64 Studio, it's based on Ubuntu,
but ships without PA by default, hence using flashplayer without JACK
support and JACK at the same time is no problem. While Suse isn't
important for me, Ubuntu Studio is very interesting for my needs. There
might be reasons to come with PA by default, but if so, the distro
should take care of those two lines
in /usr/share/alsa/cards/ICE1712.conf.

I wonder if it's easy to get rid of PA, when building dummy packages by
equivs, to keep package dependencies consistent and what needs to be set
up in addition?!

Man, Envy24 cards are very common, because they are the most cheap rt
capable cards, no distro should have issues when using those cards.
Btw. there will come a successor for envy24control soon, maybe there
already is a successor, I didn't lurk LAD the last weeks. For Suse only
I'm running the first version + a manual edit of it's successor and it's
still named envy24control, but AFAIR the renamed it.

Cheers!

Ralf


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AW: No sound without JACK

2010-09-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 02:00 +0200, Pablo wrote:
 Hi Ralf!
 
 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 
  1. How should sound be enabled usually for apps without JACK audio support  
  on Ubuntu Studio?
 
  Could there be an issue regarding to PA not loading the needed modules?
  I'm using two Envy24 based Terratec EWX 24/96 PCI sound cards on amd64  
  architecture, on-board sound is disabled.

 Check this:
 
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/178442
 
 I did as comment #30 and it worked for me with a m-audio audiophile 2496 
 which also uses the alsa module snd-ice1712. The problem remains in 
 ubuntustudio maverick alpha. See:
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntustudio-test...@lists.launchpad.net/msg00351.html

Thank you Pablo, it does solve this issue :).

I wonder what will happen, if I make my 2 Terratec EWX 24/96 cards 1 virtual 
card, anyway, today I just tested to get 1 of the 2 cards ready to work.

I tested analog stereo for KMPLayer set up to use PA and the sound preferences 
were set up to analog stereo output and simultaneous output for both cards, 
while I just tested one of the cards, but the sound was ok :).

Anyway, before this test Movie Player crashed and there are issues for the 
website of a friend, http://achimjaroschek.com/music.html, while sound was ok 
for his YouTube channel, e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu6uFtCASYc.

This does the trick:

$ cat /usr/share/alsa/cards/ICE1712.conf
#
# Configuration for the ICE1712 (Envy24) chip
#
[snip]
confdir:pcm/front.conf

ICE1712.pcm.front.0 {
@args [ CARD ]
@args.CARD {
type string
}
type route
ttable.0.0 1
ttable.1.1 1
slave.pcm {
type hw
card $CARD
}
 fix PA issue 
slave.format S32_LE
slave.channels 10
##
}
[snip]

Unfortunately there are still many issues and today there are some new issues. 
I don't have those issues with 64 Studio 3.0 beta (Hardy) and 3.3 alpha 
(Karmic) amd64.

I'm still in a production with recordings Achim and I made, so there's no time 
to fix Ubuntu Studio right now. I'm doing the production using 64 Studio 3.3 
alpha and even if the software works without issues, it's still tricky and time 
consuming and there always is the risk of a crash, so I can't use Linux for 
recording Achim and friends or other serious musicians who are short in time, 
only if there's a lot of time, it can be used for post processing. IMO for 
Ubuntu Studio it would help to remove desktop stuff like PA from the distro.

This and next month Achim does some concerts in Germany, 
http://achimjaroschek.com/, certainly I'll be at the concerts in the Ruhrgebiet.

The next 6 month I'll do a job with elementary school kids, but professional 
musicians, it might be that Linux could be more interesting then.

 
 
  2. Does anybody know how to add libflashsupport-jack? Compiling and  
  installing seems to be ok, I guess there's an issue regarding to set up  
  everything correctly.
 I am not sure. I am checking this post and comments:
 
 http://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=4t=2323st=0sk=tsd=ahilit=flash+player
 
 Please, let us know if you solve this.

Again, thank you :). If I should have more time, I'll continue and let you know 
what happened.

To be continued

Ralf

 
 Cheers! Pablo
  Cheers!
 
  Ralf
 
  [1]
  
  Ubuntu Studio
 
  $ sudo apt-get update
  $ sudo apt-get install libasound2-dev libjack-dev libsamplerate0-dev  
  libssl-dev build-essential git-core autoconf automake libtool
  $ git clone git://repo.or.cz/libflashsupport-jack.git
  $ cd libflashsupport-jack
  $ sh bootstrap.sh
  $ make
  $ sudo make install
  $ sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libflashsupport.so /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.8/
 
  $ cat /etc/ld.so.conf.d/libc.conf
  # libc default configuration
  /usr/local/lib
 
  # Regarding to libflashsupport I added:
  # If you ever happen to want to link against installed libraries
  # in a given directory, LIBDIR, you must either use libtool, and
  # specify the full pathname of the library
  # [snip] add LIBDIR to `/etc/ld.so.conf'
 
  /usr/lib
  /usr/lib/libflashsupport.so
 
  $ sudo ldconfig

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Re: No sound without JACK

2010-09-12 Thread Kenneth Koym
Pablo:
apologies I've lost sound after installing ubuntu studio on my ubuntu
10.04.1LTS 64 amd.
So to get sound, where do I put the corrections recommended in this Sound
test report. Terminal don't like what I've tried... Thxs ahead of time. Ken

22:31:00.915 Startup script...

22:31:00.917 artsshell -q terminate

sh: artsshell: not found

22:31:01.326 Startup script terminated with exit status=32512.

22:31:01.326 JACK is starting...

22:31:01.327 /usr/bin/jackd -dfirewire -r44100 -p1024 -n3

jackd 0.118.0

Copyright 2001-2009 Paul Davis, Stephane Letz, Jack O'Quinn, Torben Hohn and
others.

jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it

under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details

JACK is running in realtime mode, but you are not allowed to use realtime
scheduling.

22:31:01.338 JACK was started with PID=2028.

Your system has an audio group, but you are not a member of it.

Please add yourself to the audio group by executing (as root):

usermod -a -G audio (null)

After applying these changes, please re-login in order for them to take
effect.

You don't appear to have a sane system configuration. It is very likely that
you

encounter xruns. Please apply all the above mentioned changes and start jack
again!

22:31:01.352 JACK was stopped with exit status=255.

22:31:01.353 Post-shutdown script...

22:31:01.353 killall jackd

jackd: no process found

22:31:01.768 Post-shutdown script terminated with exit status=256.

22:31:03.476 Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Overall operation
failed. - Unable to connect to server. Please check the messages window for
more info.




On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote:

  On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 02:00 +0200, Pablo wrote:
  Hi Ralf!
 
  Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 
   1. How should sound be enabled usually for apps without JACK audio
 support
   on Ubuntu Studio?
  
   Could there be an issue regarding to PA not loading the needed modules?
   I'm using two Envy24 based Terratec EWX 24/96 PCI sound cards on amd64
   architecture, on-board sound is disabled.
  
  Check this:
 
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/178442
 
  I did as comment #30 and it worked for me with a m-audio audiophile 2496
  which also uses the alsa module snd-ice1712. The problem remains in
  ubuntustudio maverick alpha. See:
 
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntustudio-test...@lists.launchpad.net/msg00351.html

 Thank you Pablo, it does solve this issue :).

 I wonder what will happen, if I make my 2 Terratec EWX 24/96 cards 1
 virtual card, anyway, today I just tested to get 1 of the 2 cards ready to
 work.

 I tested analog stereo for KMPLayer set up to use PA and the sound
 preferences were set up to analog stereo output and simultaneous output for
 both cards, while I just tested one of the cards, but the sound was ok :).

 Anyway, before this test Movie Player crashed and there are issues for the
 website of a friend, http://achimjaroschek.com/music.html, while sound was
 ok for his YouTube channel, e.g.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu6uFtCASYc.

 This does the trick:

 $ cat /usr/share/alsa/cards/ICE1712.conf
 #
 # Configuration for the ICE1712 (Envy24) chip
 #
 [snip]
 confdir:pcm/front.conf

 ICE1712.pcm.front.0 {
 @args [ CARD ]
 @args.CARD {
 type string
 }
 type route
 ttable.0.0 1
 ttable.1.1 1
 slave.pcm {
 type hw
 card $CARD
 }
  fix PA issue 
 slave.format S32_LE
 slave.channels 10
 ##
 }
 [snip]

 Unfortunately there are still many issues and today there are some new
 issues. I don't have those issues with 64 Studio 3.0 beta (Hardy) and 3.3
 alpha (Karmic) amd64.

 I'm still in a production with recordings Achim and I made, so there's no
 time to fix Ubuntu Studio right now. I'm doing the production using 64
 Studio 3.3 alpha and even if the software works without issues, it's still
 tricky and time consuming and there always is the risk of a crash, so I
 can't use Linux for recording Achim and friends or other serious musicians
 who are short in time, only if there's a lot of time, it can be used for
 post processing. IMO for Ubuntu Studio it would help to remove desktop stuff
 like PA from the distro.

 This and next month Achim does some concerts in Germany,
 http://achimjaroschek.com/, certainly I'll be at the concerts in the
 Ruhrgebiet.

 The next 6 month I'll do a job with elementary school kids, but
 professional musicians, it might be that Linux could be more interesting
 then.


 
 
   2. Does anybody know how to add libflashsupport-jack? Compiling and
   installing seems to be ok, I guess there's an issue regarding to set
 up
   everything correctly.
  I am not sure. I am checking this post and comments: