Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] SuperCollider?

2013-10-06 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
To include on application is not big task at all, but if you would like
to help out with our development work, which includes things like
choosing applications and in some cases setting up settings for them,
you are more than welcome to help.

Check out http://ubuntustudio.org/contribute/

On Sun, Oct 6, 2013, at 05:23 PM, Bruno Ruviaro wrote:
> Hi all,
> Yes, I meant on the ISO. I teach a lot using SuperCollider and it would
> be
> great to be able to give students bootable discs or usb drives with
> Ubuntu
> Studio including SC installed by default. Let me know if I can help in
> some
> way.
> Thanks,
> Bruno
> 
> On Saturday, October 5, 2013, Sudhangathan B S wrote:
> 

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Supercollider a fork?

2013-10-06 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
I agree on all of this.
It's not a development environment in the way that you create audio
applications with it. You code performances with it. 

Ubuntu Studio is supposed to offer all workflows, in which these sort of
tools have their place.
It was meant to be included a while ago already, and will be included
for 14.04.

/Kaj Ailomaa - Ubuntu Studio project lead

On Sun, Oct 6, 2013, at 05:42 PM, Bruno Ruviaro wrote:
> Hi Gord,
> If I may disagree, SuperCollider is in the same family of software as
> PureData (Pd) and Max/MSP. Except it is based on "regular" text-based
> programming as opposed to "visual" programming. SuperCollider users use
> it
> for anything from music composition in studio to live electronics on
> stage,
> as well as sound design, etc. So it is not at all limited to "developer
> space", quite the contrary: most SC users I know are artists and
> musicians
> making music with it.
> Besides, UbuntuStudio does include PureData, so I see no conceptual
> reason
> not to include SuperCollider as well.
> Best,
> Bruno
> 
> On Sunday, October 6, 2013, Pete Wright wrote:
> 

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Supercollider a fork?

2013-10-06 Thread Bruno Ruviaro
Hi Gord,
If I may disagree, SuperCollider is in the same family of software as
PureData (Pd) and Max/MSP. Except it is based on "regular" text-based
programming as opposed to "visual" programming. SuperCollider users use it
for anything from music composition in studio to live electronics on stage,
as well as sound design, etc. So it is not at all limited to "developer
space", quite the contrary: most SC users I know are artists and musicians
making music with it.
Besides, UbuntuStudio does include PureData, so I see no conceptual reason
not to include SuperCollider as well.
Best,
Bruno

On Sunday, October 6, 2013, Pete Wright wrote:

> Hi, Gord and Howard,
> I think the fact that all sorts of creative folks can use Ubuntu Studio
> "out of the box" is a great thing.
> Special tools and emphases can be added by the user.
> Unless one is running really ancient hardware, there should be no need to
> subtract anything; Howard, et al, do a great job of making sure everything
> works with everything else. That is a terrific boon to us mere mortal users.
> So rather than fork, let us continue to have a tool with many tines.
> And thanks again to Howard and his team.
> Onward and upward!
> Pete
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Ho Wan Chan 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> Hello Gord,
>>
>> 2013/10/6 Gord Williams > 'cvml', 'i...@gordlwilliams.com');>>:
>> > This is appropriately named as it does collide with the intent of
>> > Ubuntustudio which is a ready made studio for artists and musicians.
>> This
>> > is a development environment,   and although its specific to the needs
>> of
>> > people who would use these programs its not quite in the user space,
>>  its in
>> > developer space.
>> >
>> > Perhaps its appropriate at some point for Ubuntustudio to consider
>> forks.
>> > Ubuntustudio -dev  - would cover it.   Personally I would like to see
>> > Ubuntustudio voice - for tracking and mastering voice projects.
>>  Weeding out
>> > synths and guitar boxes takes quite a bit of time after an install.
>>
>> Um, I believe that just makes Ubuntu Studio hard to use for everybody...
>> >
>> > Another thing I would like to see is to pick the flavour of desktop.
>> Which
>> > would probably not need a fork,  but if so  mine would be Ubuntustudio -
>> > gnome.   I will let everyone else argue that Ubuntustudio - LXDE,
>>  Unity,
>> > or whatever is the best.   My pencils are on the left side of my desk,
>>  and
>> > they stay there!  ;>
>>
>> We ARE planning that for Ubuntu Studio 14.04 LTS (or later versions).
>> Actually we've been working on that, but it does take time.
>>
>> >
>> > Of course those who wish the whole thing if the forks were adopted
>> could go
>> > for - Ubuntustudio - all.
>> >
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] SuperCollider?

2013-10-06 Thread Bruno Ruviaro
Hi all,
Yes, I meant on the ISO. I teach a lot using SuperCollider and it would be
great to be able to give students bootable discs or usb drives with Ubuntu
Studio including SC installed by default. Let me know if I can help in some
way.
Thanks,
Bruno

On Saturday, October 5, 2013, Sudhangathan B S wrote:

> I just googled a bit... i don't know if this can help you, but these links
> gives superb information..
>
> It is basically a environment for sound composition and audio
> programming.. Opensourced..
> For me it sounds like an audio studio..!!
>
> http://supercollider.sourceforge.net/
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperCollider
>
> Best regrads,
>
> -
> Sudhangathan BS
> Ph:(+91) 9731-905-205
> -
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 6:11 AM, leo  'cvml', 'le...@yahoo.com');>> wrote:
>
>> What is  SuperCollider used for?
>> ~Leo
>>
>>   --
>>  *From:* Kaj Ailomaa > 'zeque...@mousike.me');>>
>> *To:* ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > 'ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com');>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 5, 2013 1:58 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] SuperCollider?
>>
>> I actually though I had added it a while back, but it seems I didn't.
>> It's one of the more standard audio coding systems, and should be
>> included by default. All of the audio live coding together take up so
>> little space, we should just include as much of it as possible.
>>
>> We are lacking a bit in researching, listing and selecting applications
>> for our workflows.
>> Anyone who might be interested in helping us with this is more than
>> welcome to join our efforts.
>> I will be putting out some calls for help on this kind of issues in the
>> coming months, as we begin developing Ubuntu Studio 14.04, the next LTS
>> release.
>>
>> /Kaj Ailomaa - Ubuntu Studio project lead
>>
>>
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Supercollider a fork?

2013-10-06 Thread Pete Wright
Hi, Gord and Howard,
I think the fact that all sorts of creative folks can use Ubuntu Studio
"out of the box" is a great thing.
Special tools and emphases can be added by the user.
Unless one is running really ancient hardware, there should be no need to
subtract anything; Howard, et al, do a great job of making sure everything
works with everything else. That is a terrific boon to us mere mortal users.
So rather than fork, let us continue to have a tool with many tines.
And thanks again to Howard and his team.
Onward and upward!
Pete


On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Ho Wan Chan  wrote:

> Hello Gord,
>
> 2013/10/6 Gord Williams :
> > This is appropriately named as it does collide with the intent of
> > Ubuntustudio which is a ready made studio for artists and musicians.
> This
> > is a development environment,   and although its specific to the needs of
> > people who would use these programs its not quite in the user space,
>  its in
> > developer space.
> >
> > Perhaps its appropriate at some point for Ubuntustudio to consider forks.
> > Ubuntustudio -dev  - would cover it.   Personally I would like to see
> > Ubuntustudio voice - for tracking and mastering voice projects.  Weeding
> out
> > synths and guitar boxes takes quite a bit of time after an install.
>
> Um, I believe that just makes Ubuntu Studio hard to use for everybody...
> >
> > Another thing I would like to see is to pick the flavour of desktop.
> Which
> > would probably not need a fork,  but if so  mine would be Ubuntustudio -
> > gnome.   I will let everyone else argue that Ubuntustudio - LXDE,  Unity,
> > or whatever is the best.   My pencils are on the left side of my desk,
>  and
> > they stay there!  ;>
>
> We ARE planning that for Ubuntu Studio 14.04 LTS (or later versions).
> Actually we've been working on that, but it does take time.
>
> >
> > Of course those who wish the whole thing if the forks were adopted could
> go
> > for - Ubuntustudio - all.
> >
> >
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> Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Supercollider a fork?

2013-10-06 Thread Ho Wan Chan
Hello Gord,

2013/10/6 Gord Williams :
> This is appropriately named as it does collide with the intent of
> Ubuntustudio which is a ready made studio for artists and musicians.   This
> is a development environment,   and although its specific to the needs of
> people who would use these programs its not quite in the user space,  its in
> developer space.
>
> Perhaps its appropriate at some point for Ubuntustudio to consider forks.
> Ubuntustudio -dev  - would cover it.   Personally I would like to see
> Ubuntustudio voice - for tracking and mastering voice projects.  Weeding out
> synths and guitar boxes takes quite a bit of time after an install.

Um, I believe that just makes Ubuntu Studio hard to use for everybody...
>
> Another thing I would like to see is to pick the flavour of desktop.   Which
> would probably not need a fork,  but if so  mine would be Ubuntustudio -
> gnome.   I will let everyone else argue that Ubuntustudio - LXDE,  Unity,
> or whatever is the best.   My pencils are on the left side of my desk,  and
> they stay there!  ;>

We ARE planning that for Ubuntu Studio 14.04 LTS (or later versions).
Actually we've been working on that, but it does take time.

>
> Of course those who wish the whole thing if the forks were adopted could go
> for - Ubuntustudio - all.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] SuperCollider?

2013-10-05 Thread Sudhangathan B S
I just googled a bit... i don't know if this can help you, but these links
gives superb information..

It is basically a environment for sound composition and audio programming..
Opensourced..
For me it sounds like an audio studio..!!

http://supercollider.sourceforge.net/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperCollider

Best regrads,

-
Sudhangathan BS
Ph:(+91) 9731-905-205
-


On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 6:11 AM, leo  wrote:

> What is  SuperCollider used for?
> ~Leo
>
>   --
>  *From:* Kaj Ailomaa 
> *To:* ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 5, 2013 1:58 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] SuperCollider?
>
> I actually though I had added it a while back, but it seems I didn't.
> It's one of the more standard audio coding systems, and should be
> included by default. All of the audio live coding together take up so
> little space, we should just include as much of it as possible.
>
> We are lacking a bit in researching, listing and selecting applications
> for our workflows.
> Anyone who might be interested in helping us with this is more than
> welcome to join our efforts.
> I will be putting out some calls for help on this kind of issues in the
> coming months, as we begin developing Ubuntu Studio 14.04, the next LTS
> release.
>
> /Kaj Ailomaa - Ubuntu Studio project lead
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] SuperCollider?

2013-10-05 Thread leo
What is  SuperCollider used for?
~Leo




 From: Kaj Ailomaa 
To: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2013 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] SuperCollider?
 

I actually though I had added it a while back, but it seems I didn't.
It's one of the more standard audio coding systems, and should be
included by default. All of the audio live coding together take up so
little space, we should just include as much of it as possible.

We are lacking a bit in researching, listing and selecting applications
for our workflows.
Anyone who might be interested in helping us with this is more than
welcome to join our efforts. 
I will be putting out some calls for help on this kind of issues in the
coming months, as we begin developing Ubuntu Studio 14.04, the next LTS
release.

/Kaj Ailomaa - Ubuntu Studio project lead


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] SuperCollider?

2013-10-05 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
I actually though I had added it a while back, but it seems I didn't.
It's one of the more standard audio coding systems, and should be
included by default. All of the audio live coding together take up so
little space, we should just include as much of it as possible.

We are lacking a bit in researching, listing and selecting applications
for our workflows.
Anyone who might be interested in helping us with this is more than
welcome to join our efforts. 
I will be putting out some calls for help on this kind of issues in the
coming months, as we begin developing Ubuntu Studio 14.04, the next LTS
release.

/Kaj Ailomaa - Ubuntu Studio project lead

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] SuperCollider?

2013-10-05 Thread Mike Holstein
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Bruno Ruviaro  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Is there any plan to include SuperCollider in a future distribution of
> Ubuntu Studio?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bruno
>


its included in the default ubuntu repos right now.. feel free and install
it.
http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=supercollider



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] SuperCollider?

2013-10-05 Thread Jimmy Sjölund
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Bruno Ruviaro  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Is there any plan to include SuperCollider in a future distribution of
> Ubuntu Studio?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bruno
>

Hi,

do you mean on the ISO? Otherwise it seems to be available when doing an
apt search.

/Jimmy
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