Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Supercollider a fork?
I agree on all of this. It's not a development environment in the way that you create audio applications with it. You code performances with it. Ubuntu Studio is supposed to offer all workflows, in which these sort of tools have their place. It was meant to be included a while ago already, and will be included for 14.04. /Kaj Ailomaa - Ubuntu Studio project lead On Sun, Oct 6, 2013, at 05:42 PM, Bruno Ruviaro wrote: > Hi Gord, > If I may disagree, SuperCollider is in the same family of software as > PureData (Pd) and Max/MSP. Except it is based on "regular" text-based > programming as opposed to "visual" programming. SuperCollider users use > it > for anything from music composition in studio to live electronics on > stage, > as well as sound design, etc. So it is not at all limited to "developer > space", quite the contrary: most SC users I know are artists and > musicians > making music with it. > Besides, UbuntuStudio does include PureData, so I see no conceptual > reason > not to include SuperCollider as well. > Best, > Bruno > > On Sunday, October 6, 2013, Pete Wright wrote: > -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Supercollider a fork?
Hi Gord, If I may disagree, SuperCollider is in the same family of software as PureData (Pd) and Max/MSP. Except it is based on "regular" text-based programming as opposed to "visual" programming. SuperCollider users use it for anything from music composition in studio to live electronics on stage, as well as sound design, etc. So it is not at all limited to "developer space", quite the contrary: most SC users I know are artists and musicians making music with it. Besides, UbuntuStudio does include PureData, so I see no conceptual reason not to include SuperCollider as well. Best, Bruno On Sunday, October 6, 2013, Pete Wright wrote: > Hi, Gord and Howard, > I think the fact that all sorts of creative folks can use Ubuntu Studio > "out of the box" is a great thing. > Special tools and emphases can be added by the user. > Unless one is running really ancient hardware, there should be no need to > subtract anything; Howard, et al, do a great job of making sure everything > works with everything else. That is a terrific boon to us mere mortal users. > So rather than fork, let us continue to have a tool with many tines. > And thanks again to Howard and his team. > Onward and upward! > Pete > > > On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Ho Wan Chan > > > wrote: > >> Hello Gord, >> >> 2013/10/6 Gord Williams > 'cvml', 'i...@gordlwilliams.com');>>: >> > This is appropriately named as it does collide with the intent of >> > Ubuntustudio which is a ready made studio for artists and musicians. >> This >> > is a development environment, and although its specific to the needs >> of >> > people who would use these programs its not quite in the user space, >> its in >> > developer space. >> > >> > Perhaps its appropriate at some point for Ubuntustudio to consider >> forks. >> > Ubuntustudio -dev - would cover it. Personally I would like to see >> > Ubuntustudio voice - for tracking and mastering voice projects. >> Weeding out >> > synths and guitar boxes takes quite a bit of time after an install. >> >> Um, I believe that just makes Ubuntu Studio hard to use for everybody... >> > >> > Another thing I would like to see is to pick the flavour of desktop. >> Which >> > would probably not need a fork, but if so mine would be Ubuntustudio - >> > gnome. I will let everyone else argue that Ubuntustudio - LXDE, >> Unity, >> > or whatever is the best. My pencils are on the left side of my desk, >> and >> > they stay there! ;> >> >> We ARE planning that for Ubuntu Studio 14.04 LTS (or later versions). >> Actually we've been working on that, but it does take time. >> >> > >> > Of course those who wish the whole thing if the forks were adopted >> could go >> > for - Ubuntustudio - all. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > ubuntu-studio-users mailing list >> > ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > 'ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com');> >> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users >> > >> >> Regards, >> Howard Chan (smartboyhw) >> Ubuntu Studio Release Manager >> >> -- >> ubuntu-studio-users mailing list >> ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > 'ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com');> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users >> > > -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Supercollider a fork?
Hi, Gord and Howard, I think the fact that all sorts of creative folks can use Ubuntu Studio "out of the box" is a great thing. Special tools and emphases can be added by the user. Unless one is running really ancient hardware, there should be no need to subtract anything; Howard, et al, do a great job of making sure everything works with everything else. That is a terrific boon to us mere mortal users. So rather than fork, let us continue to have a tool with many tines. And thanks again to Howard and his team. Onward and upward! Pete On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 7:22 AM, Ho Wan Chan wrote: > Hello Gord, > > 2013/10/6 Gord Williams : > > This is appropriately named as it does collide with the intent of > > Ubuntustudio which is a ready made studio for artists and musicians. > This > > is a development environment, and although its specific to the needs of > > people who would use these programs its not quite in the user space, > its in > > developer space. > > > > Perhaps its appropriate at some point for Ubuntustudio to consider forks. > > Ubuntustudio -dev - would cover it. Personally I would like to see > > Ubuntustudio voice - for tracking and mastering voice projects. Weeding > out > > synths and guitar boxes takes quite a bit of time after an install. > > Um, I believe that just makes Ubuntu Studio hard to use for everybody... > > > > Another thing I would like to see is to pick the flavour of desktop. > Which > > would probably not need a fork, but if so mine would be Ubuntustudio - > > gnome. I will let everyone else argue that Ubuntustudio - LXDE, Unity, > > or whatever is the best. My pencils are on the left side of my desk, > and > > they stay there! ;> > > We ARE planning that for Ubuntu Studio 14.04 LTS (or later versions). > Actually we've been working on that, but it does take time. > > > > > Of course those who wish the whole thing if the forks were adopted could > go > > for - Ubuntustudio - all. > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-studio-users mailing list > > ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > > > > Regards, > Howard Chan (smartboyhw) > Ubuntu Studio Release Manager > > -- > ubuntu-studio-users mailing list > ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Supercollider a fork?
Hello Gord, 2013/10/6 Gord Williams : > This is appropriately named as it does collide with the intent of > Ubuntustudio which is a ready made studio for artists and musicians. This > is a development environment, and although its specific to the needs of > people who would use these programs its not quite in the user space, its in > developer space. > > Perhaps its appropriate at some point for Ubuntustudio to consider forks. > Ubuntustudio -dev - would cover it. Personally I would like to see > Ubuntustudio voice - for tracking and mastering voice projects. Weeding out > synths and guitar boxes takes quite a bit of time after an install. Um, I believe that just makes Ubuntu Studio hard to use for everybody... > > Another thing I would like to see is to pick the flavour of desktop. Which > would probably not need a fork, but if so mine would be Ubuntustudio - > gnome. I will let everyone else argue that Ubuntustudio - LXDE, Unity, > or whatever is the best. My pencils are on the left side of my desk, and > they stay there! ;> We ARE planning that for Ubuntu Studio 14.04 LTS (or later versions). Actually we've been working on that, but it does take time. > > Of course those who wish the whole thing if the forks were adopted could go > for - Ubuntustudio - all. > > > -- > ubuntu-studio-users mailing list > ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > Regards, Howard Chan (smartboyhw) Ubuntu Studio Release Manager -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
