Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] USB device order/naming

2014-11-10 Thread Fredd Oliveiras
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On 10-11-2014 08:05, Thijs van severen wrote:

Hi All

What is the recommended way to force a USB audio device to always use 
the same name ? (dev1, dev3..)


I have tried this procedure : 
http://alsa.opensrc.org/MultipleUSBAudioDevices

But that doesnt seem to work (on ubuntu 12.4)

all tips are wlecome !

grtz
Thijs


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] USB device order/naming

2014-11-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:05:21 +0100
Thijs van severen thijsvanseve...@gmail.com wrote:
 What is the recommended way to force a USB audio device to always use
 the same name ? (dev1, dev3..)

devX? If it should be hw:X, then you can try this:

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
# ALSA module ordering
options snd slots=snd_hdspm,snd_ice1712,snd_ice1712

Explanation:

I've got three audio cards, a HDSP and two Envy24 cards, internal
audio is disabled by the BIOS settings.

The HDSP always becomes hw:0, the Envy24 cards always will become hw:1
and hw:2. Even if I unload the snd_hdspm and/or snd_ice1712 modules,
hw:0 to hw:2 are always reserved, any first audio USB device I plug in
will become hw:3.

IOW, if you add all sound devices drivers of others than USB audio
devices to cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, one USB device always
will become the same hw:X, after the reserved hws. If you're using more
than one USB devices, it could be an issue. Perhaps it could be solved
by an udev rule.

You also could add snd_usb_audio at the first position, so if you're
using just one USB audio device, it always will become hw:0.

JFTR the index method is obsolet, use the above mentioned slot method
instead.

Hth,
Ralf

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] USB device order/naming

2014-11-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PS: If more than one USB audio devices are _audio_ devices, it should be
solvable. If more than one audio device (USB or PCI etc.) shares the
same module and they should have the same name, you're screwed, you
need to restore Jack and ALSA MIDI connections with each session
manually.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] USB device order/naming

2014-11-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PPS:
 PS: If more than one USB audio devices are _audio_ devices, it should
 be solvable. If more than one audio device (USB or PCI etc.) shares

ASSUMED THEY SHOULD BE USED FOR MIDI AND NOT FOR AUDIO

 the same module and they should have the same name, you're screwed,
 you need to restore Jack and ALSA MIDI connections with each session
 manually.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] USB device order/naming

2014-11-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 08:46:08 -0200
Fredd Oliveiras fredd.olivei...@gmail.com wrote:
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] USB device order/naming

2014-11-10 Thread Kaj Ailomaa


On Mon, Nov 10, 2014, at 11:05 AM, Thijs van severen wrote:
 Hi All
 
 What is the recommended way to force a USB audio device to always use the
 same name ? (dev1, dev3..)
 
 I have tried this procedure :
 http://alsa.opensrc.org/MultipleUSBAudioDevices
 But that doesnt seem to work (on ubuntu 12.4)
 
 all tips are wlecome !
 
 grtz
 Thijs
 
 

I suppose you want jack to always start with your device?

Forcing your hardware to load in a certain order is not a good option.
Instead, start jack with the name of your device, instead of the hw
order.

For instance, the result of me running: cat /proc/asound/cards

0 [PCH]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
  HDA Intel PCH at 0xf160 irq 43

The name of the card in this case is PCH (I only have one atm). So, in
my case I would start jack using hw:PCH, instead of hw:0.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] USB device order/naming

2014-11-10 Thread Mike Holstein
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Thijs van severen 
thijsvanseve...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All

 What is the recommended way to force a USB audio device to always use the
 same name ? (dev1, dev3..)


on my audio production rig, i disable the internal audio device in the
bios.. if that is an option for you, it will make the naming consistent..
cheers!



 I have tried this procedure :
 http://alsa.opensrc.org/MultipleUSBAudioDevices
 But that doesnt seem to work (on ubuntu 12.4)

 all tips are wlecome !

 grtz
 Thijs


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] USB device order/naming

2014-11-10 Thread Kaj Ailomaa


On Mon, Nov 10, 2014, at 08:52 PM, Mike Holstein wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Thijs van severen 
 thijsvanseve...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi All
 
  What is the recommended way to force a USB audio device to always use the
  same name ? (dev1, dev3..)
 
 
 on my audio production rig, i disable the internal audio device in the
 bios.. if that is an option for you, it will make the naming consistent..
 cheers!
 
 
 

There's a problem if you have usb midi devices or such. They will also
be listed in the list of hardware.
The simplest method is starting jack using the hw:name, instead of
hw:number. qjacktl defaults to that these days, unless you use the
default choice, which is the same as hw:0.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] USB device order/naming

2014-11-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 20:59:33 +0100
Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me wrote:

 
 
 On Mon, Nov 10, 2014, at 08:52 PM, Mike Holstein wrote:
  On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Thijs van severen 
  thijsvanseve...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Hi All
  
   What is the recommended way to force a USB audio device to always
   use the same name ? (dev1, dev3..)
  
  
  on my audio production rig, i disable the internal audio device in
  the bios.. if that is an option for you, it will make the naming
  consistent.. cheers!
  
  
  
 
 There's a problem if you have usb midi devices or such. They will also
 be listed in the list of hardware.
 The simplest method is starting jack using the hw:name, instead of
 hw:number. qjacktl defaults to that these days, unless you use the
 default choice, which is the same as hw:0.

One of my hints was the same as Mike's hint. Perhaps the OP not only
wants to use the device with jack, but have it as a general default
hw:0 device. Anyway, disabling a crappy device is good for several
reasons, but not needed, if just one device always should become hw:0.

To /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf the OP could add

options snd slots=snd_usb_audio

that will make a single USB device always hw:0.

Yes, if the OP is using several USB devices it's not that easy.

As a side note, using USB for MIDI is very bad, much too much jitter
and depending to the kind of device, most likely no galvanic isolation.
Usage of opto-couplers is rendered useless, if ground is looped through.

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