Re: No audio - was: Real time for Ubuntu Studio 10.04 amd64

2010-07-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 07:55 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 00:18 +0200, Gerhard Lang wrote:
  Am 28.07.2010 18:22, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
   Hi :)
  
   today I tried Ubuntu Studio again, but I had no time to work on the
   realtime kernel issue, because I got some new issues.
  
   1.
  
   After updating apps and the non-realtime kernel, my manually edited
   grub.cfg was automatically overwritten by a completely grotesque
   grub.cfg, without an automatically backup of the original. So tomorrow
   I'll have to do a hard job to make all my really existing kernels and
   Linuxes bootable again and those who are already bootable needs to get
   rid of those annoying boot splashes, unfortunately I didn't backup it
   myself.
  
   2.
  
   I tried to play a MP3 by Movie Player, the PA setting meters show
   output, optional for one or the other of my two Terratec EWX 24/96 sound
   cards, but there was no sound hearable or visible for Envy24 control.
  
   3.
  
   I installed KMPlayer, set it up to use JACK, run JACK, launched
   KMPLayer, pushed play and play stand still.
  
   Any hints how to solve issue 2 and 3 are welcome.
  
   Cheers!
  
   Ralf
  
  
  hi Ralf
  I'd recommend grub2. On my stationary machine it finds all hard-drives, 
  partitions, oses and every single Linux kernel. You'll just have to edit 
  /etc/default/grub for your needs on the Linux from where you updated 
  grub i.e. for getting rid of splash and recovery mode, setting defaults 
  etc..
  I also have an ice1712 card, a hoontech dsp24, and it worked ootb in 
  10.04 64bit.
  But just in the moment I have problems with sound/alsa in kernels 
  2.6.32.23 and 24 generic and preempt.
  With rt kernel 2.6.33.26-rt and jack2 (available i.e. in falktx ppas) 
  and  alsa updated to 1.0.23 all audio is fine.
  Even if both your cards are selectable in PA I think your problem has to 
  do with multiple sound-card setup which seems to be not trivial in 
  Ubuntu. Can you select them  in Qjackctl too?
  good luck
  Gerhard
  
 
 Yes, I'm able to select them by Qjackctl too. I didn't make both cards a
 single virtual card until now.
 I can't boot any kernel-rt. There at least is an issue for X. I'm unable
 to start GDM. There's no sound for the preempt kernels.
 
 Because there isn't a xorg.conf anymore I'm unable to switch between
 drivers for the graphics ... right now I see there's a
 xorg.conf.failsafe using the vesa driver.
 
 Hm, ASAP, not right now, I'll try to boot a kernel-rt in failsafe mode.
 
 - Ralf

Booting a kernel-rt in recovery mode failed too.

spinymouse1...@suse11-2:~
cat /media/ubuntu_studio/var/log/Xorg.failsafe.log
[snip]
(II) VESA(0): Total Memory: 4096 64KB banks (262144kB)
(II) VESA(0): Configured Monitor: Using hsync range of 31.50-0.00 kHz
(II) VESA(0): Configured Monitor: Using vrefresh range of 56.00-0.00 Hz
(WW) VESA(0): Unable to estimate virtual size
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode 2048x1536 (no mode of this name)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode 1280x1024 (no mode of this name)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode 1024x768 (no mode of this name)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode 800x600 (no mode of this name)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode 640x480 (no mode of this name)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode 640x400 (no mode of this name)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode 320x400 (no mode of this name)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode 320x240 (no mode of this name)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode 320x200 (no mode of this name)
(WW) VESA(0): No valid modes left. Trying less strict filter...
(II) VESA(0): Configured Monitor: Using hsync range of 31.50-0.00 kHz
(II) VESA(0): Configured Monitor: Using vrefresh range of 56.00-0.00 Hz
(WW) VESA(0): Unable to estimate virtual size
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode 2048x1536 (unknown reason)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode 1280x1024 (unknown reason)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode 1024x768 (unknown reason)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode 800x600 (unknown reason)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode 640x480 (unknown reason)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode 640x400 (unknown reason)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode 320x400 (unknown reason)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode 320x240 (unknown reason)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode 320x200 (unknown reason)
(WW) VESA(0): No valid modes left. Trying aggressive sync range...
(II) VESA(0): Configured Monitor: Using hsync range of 31.50-0.00 kHz
(II) VESA(0): Configured Monitor: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-0.00 Hz
(WW) VESA(0): Unable to estimate virtual size
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode 2048x1536 (unknown reason)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode 1280x1024 (unknown reason)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode 1024x768 (unknown reason)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode 800x600 (unknown reason)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode 640x480 (unknown reason)
(II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode 640x400 

Re: No audio - was: Real time for Ubuntu Studio 10.04 amd64

2010-07-28 Thread Matt Wheeler
Sorry, I can't answer either of the questions you said you actually
wanted help with but...

On 28 July 2010 17:22, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 Hi :)

 today I tried Ubuntu Studio again, but I had no time to work on the
 realtime kernel issue, because I got some new issues.

 1.

 After updating apps and the non-realtime kernel, my manually edited
 grub.cfg was automatically overwritten by a completely grotesque
 grub.cfg, without an automatically backup of the original. So tomorrow
 I'll have to do a hard job to make all my really existing kernels and
 Linuxes bootable again and those who are already bootable needs to get
 rid of those annoying boot splashes, unfortunately I didn't backup it
 myself.

Rather than editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg directly you need to edit or
replace the files in /etc/grub.d and then call update-grub.
The scripts in /etc/grub.d are executed in order, hence the filenames
beginning with numbers, so if you want to add custom entries at the
top call your file 08_localstuff or something. I've blogged about this
in relation to realtime kernels [1]. Perhaps you can modify that to
suit your needs.


If you just want to include some static text in grub.cfg you could
create a file like this (and make it executable):

#!/bin/sh

echo  EOF

your stuff for grub.cfg goes here

EOF


Hope this is at least a little helpful ⢁)


[1] http://funkyhat.org/2010/01/19/putting-rt-kernels-first-in-grub2/

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Re: No audio - was: Real time for Ubuntu Studio 10.04 amd64

2010-07-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 20:34 +0100, Matt Wheeler wrote:
 Sorry, I can't answer either of the questions you said you actually
 wanted help with but...
 
 On 28 July 2010 17:22, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
  Hi :)
 
  today I tried Ubuntu Studio again, but I had no time to work on the
  realtime kernel issue, because I got some new issues.
 
  1.
 
  After updating apps and the non-realtime kernel, my manually edited
  grub.cfg was automatically overwritten by a completely grotesque
  grub.cfg, without an automatically backup of the original. So tomorrow
  I'll have to do a hard job to make all my really existing kernels and
  Linuxes bootable again and those who are already bootable needs to get
  rid of those annoying boot splashes, unfortunately I didn't backup it
  myself.
 
 Rather than editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg directly you need to edit or
 replace the files in /etc/grub.d and then call update-grub.
 The scripts in /etc/grub.d are executed in order, hence the filenames
 beginning with numbers, so if you want to add custom entries at the
 top call your file 08_localstuff or something. I've blogged about this
 in relation to realtime kernels [1]. Perhaps you can modify that to
 suit your needs.
 
 
 If you just want to include some static text in grub.cfg you could
 create a file like this (and make it executable):
 
 #!/bin/sh
 
 echo  EOF
 
 your stuff for grub.cfg goes here
 
 EOF
 
 
 Hope this is at least a little helpful ⢁)
 
 
 [1] http://funkyhat.org/2010/01/19/putting-rt-kernels-first-in-grub2/
 
 -- 
 Matt Wheeler
 m...@funkyhat.org
 

Thank you Matt :)

1.

My fault not to backup grub.cfg or to switch to GRUB 1, resp. not to use
GRUB 1 of my older Linux installs.

2.

For the future I could backup grub.cfg or I should (have) read about
GRUB 2 myself.

So, okay, GRUB isn't that important, OTOH thank you for making it easier
for me to keep the new GRUB.

Anyway, I still wounder why GRUB does search for outdated GRUB 1
menu.lst's ;).

Not the hint I was asking for, but OTOH a really good hint, because the
new GRUB for sure will remove the old faithful GRUB.

Thanx :)

Ralf


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Re: No audio - was: Real time for Ubuntu Studio 10.04 amd64

2010-07-28 Thread Gerhard Lang
Am 28.07.2010 18:22, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
 Hi :)

 today I tried Ubuntu Studio again, but I had no time to work on the
 realtime kernel issue, because I got some new issues.

 1.

 After updating apps and the non-realtime kernel, my manually edited
 grub.cfg was automatically overwritten by a completely grotesque
 grub.cfg, without an automatically backup of the original. So tomorrow
 I'll have to do a hard job to make all my really existing kernels and
 Linuxes bootable again and those who are already bootable needs to get
 rid of those annoying boot splashes, unfortunately I didn't backup it
 myself.

 2.

 I tried to play a MP3 by Movie Player, the PA setting meters show
 output, optional for one or the other of my two Terratec EWX 24/96 sound
 cards, but there was no sound hearable or visible for Envy24 control.

 3.

 I installed KMPlayer, set it up to use JACK, run JACK, launched
 KMPLayer, pushed play and play stand still.

 Any hints how to solve issue 2 and 3 are welcome.

 Cheers!

 Ralf


hi Ralf
I'd recommend grub2. On my stationary machine it finds all hard-drives, 
partitions, oses and every single Linux kernel. You'll just have to edit 
/etc/default/grub for your needs on the Linux from where you updated 
grub i.e. for getting rid of splash and recovery mode, setting defaults 
etc..
I also have an ice1712 card, a hoontech dsp24, and it worked ootb in 
10.04 64bit.
But just in the moment I have problems with sound/alsa in kernels 
2.6.32.23 and 24 generic and preempt.
With rt kernel 2.6.33.26-rt and jack2 (available i.e. in falktx ppas) 
and  alsa updated to 1.0.23 all audio is fine.
Even if both your cards are selectable in PA I think your problem has to 
do with multiple sound-card setup which seems to be not trivial in 
Ubuntu. Can you select them  in Qjackctl too?
good luck
Gerhard

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Re: No audio - was: Real time for Ubuntu Studio 10.04 amd64

2010-07-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 00:18 +0200, Gerhard Lang wrote:
 Am 28.07.2010 18:22, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
  Hi :)
 
  today I tried Ubuntu Studio again, but I had no time to work on the
  realtime kernel issue, because I got some new issues.
 
  1.
 
  After updating apps and the non-realtime kernel, my manually edited
  grub.cfg was automatically overwritten by a completely grotesque
  grub.cfg, without an automatically backup of the original. So tomorrow
  I'll have to do a hard job to make all my really existing kernels and
  Linuxes bootable again and those who are already bootable needs to get
  rid of those annoying boot splashes, unfortunately I didn't backup it
  myself.
 
  2.
 
  I tried to play a MP3 by Movie Player, the PA setting meters show
  output, optional for one or the other of my two Terratec EWX 24/96 sound
  cards, but there was no sound hearable or visible for Envy24 control.
 
  3.
 
  I installed KMPlayer, set it up to use JACK, run JACK, launched
  KMPLayer, pushed play and play stand still.
 
  Any hints how to solve issue 2 and 3 are welcome.
 
  Cheers!
 
  Ralf
 
 
 hi Ralf
 I'd recommend grub2. On my stationary machine it finds all hard-drives, 
 partitions, oses and every single Linux kernel. You'll just have to edit 
 /etc/default/grub for your needs on the Linux from where you updated 
 grub i.e. for getting rid of splash and recovery mode, setting defaults 
 etc..
 I also have an ice1712 card, a hoontech dsp24, and it worked ootb in 
 10.04 64bit.
 But just in the moment I have problems with sound/alsa in kernels 
 2.6.32.23 and 24 generic and preempt.
 With rt kernel 2.6.33.26-rt and jack2 (available i.e. in falktx ppas) 
 and  alsa updated to 1.0.23 all audio is fine.
 Even if both your cards are selectable in PA I think your problem has to 
 do with multiple sound-card setup which seems to be not trivial in 
 Ubuntu. Can you select them  in Qjackctl too?
 good luck
 Gerhard
 

Yes, I'm able to select them by Qjackctl too. I didn't make both cards a
single virtual card until now.
I can't boot any kernel-rt. There at least is an issue for X. I'm unable
to start GDM. There's no sound for the preempt kernels.

Because there isn't a xorg.conf anymore I'm unable to switch between
drivers for the graphics ... right now I see there's a
xorg.conf.failsafe using the vesa driver.

Hm, ASAP, not right now, I'll try to boot a kernel-rt in failsafe mode.

- Ralf


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