Re: Ubuntu Studio 9.10 Karmic Koala

2009-10-29 Thread Gerhard Lang
greg loyse schrieb:
> I have to admit I had given up. Now I am eager to give it a go.
>
> I am very happy to be wrong. :)
>
>   
You're wrong and you'll be happy :D
I'm on karmic since alpha 3 and it's great. Ffado (for me with edirol 
fa-101) is running ootb if we make a clean ubuntustudio install - if we 
install ubuntu-studio into an existing ubuntu, we'll have to run 
ubuntu-studio-controls (from repos) and edit /etc/security/limits.conf 
to make sure it contents a line '@audio - rtprio 99'
even the proprietary nvidia drivers from repos run in -rt kernel and 
don't eat performance.
For all who run into issues there is a helpful how to:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation





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Re: Ubuntu Studio 9.10 Karmic Koala

2009-10-29 Thread greg loyse
I have to admit I had given up. Now I am eager to give it a go.

I am very happy to be wrong. :)

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Re: Ubuntu Studio 9.10 Karmic Koala

2009-10-29 Thread Ricardo Lameiro
My FA-101 works with 8.04... maybe it will work also with the 9.10, I think
FA-66 should work ok with either one or another... they are prety much the
same

2009/10/29 greg loyse 

> FFADO doesn't work with the new firewire stack (called juju):
>
> http://ieee1394.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Juju_Migration#Compatibility_and_stability
>
> FFADO support for the new stack is far in the future:
> http://subversion.ffado.org/milestone/FFADO%203.0
>
> My understanding is that if the Ubuntu 9.10 RT kernel was compiled
> using the new stack (you can choose which one when you compile), FFADO
> (and therefore firewire audio devices) won't be supported with this
> kernel.
>
> If my understanding is correct, doesn't that make packaging FFADO in
> practice redundent?
>
> I am not a pro so not totally sure I have grasped all the issues here.
> However this is the result of 3 years of owning (and in the main
> failing) to get a Edirl FA-66 device to work.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Eric Hedekar 
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Mac McIlvaine 
> wrote:
> >> At Thursday, 29 October 2009, you wrote:
> >>
> >>>Ubuntu Studio is a multimedia editing/creation flavor of Ubuntu, built
> >>>for the GNU/Linux audio, video, and graphics enthusiast or
> >>>professional.  http://www.ubuntustudio.org
> >>>
> >>>The Ubuntu Studio team is proud to announce its sixth release: Ubuntu
> >>>Studio 9.10 "Karmic Koala". With this release, which you can download
> >>>in a 1.4GB DVD, Ubuntu Studio offers a pre-made selection of packages,
> >>>targeted at audio producers, video producers and graphic designers.
> >>>Ubuntu Studio greatly simplifies the Linux-based multimedia workstation.
> >>
> >>>
> >>
> >> I poked around on the web but haven't found anything definitive.
> >> Is ffado using the new stack with this release?
> >>
> >> Mac
> >>
> >
> > Unfortunately I believe ffado still is using the old stack (or at
> > least the karmic packages still use the old stack).  But the new stack
> > is now in place for when ffado wants to use it.
> >
> > -Eric
> >
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Re: Ubuntu Studio 9.10 Karmic Koala & ffado

2009-10-29 Thread Mac McIlvaine
At Thursday, 29 October 2009, -Eric wrote:

NO.  The firewire stack in Karmic is backward compatible.  I played 
a show with my Firepod last week on the Karmic Release Candidate.
  FFADO WORKS GREAT in Karmic. 
>
>To quote from that first link of yours: For now, FireWire audio 
users need to continue to work with the old drivers, to which libraw1394 
v2 will remain fully compatible.  The immediate benefit of the new 
2.0 firewire stack (from what I understand) is for Video devices.
  Audio devices will see this benefit when FFADO's drivers are migrated 
to the new stack.
>
>-Eric

A so libraw1394 is just there. That's cool...is that how it was in 9.04?

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Re: Ubuntu Studio 9.10 Karmic Koala

2009-10-29 Thread Mac McIlvaine
At Thursday, 29 October 2009, greg loyse  wrote:

>FFADO doesn't work with the new firewire stack (called juju):
>http://ieee1394.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Juju_Migration#Compatibility_and_stability
>
>FFADO support for the new stack is far in the future:
>http://subversion.ffado.org/milestone/FFADO%203.0
>
>My understanding is that if the Ubuntu 9.10 RT kernel was compiled
>using the new stack (you can choose which one when you compile), FFADO
>(and therefore firewire audio devices) won't be supported with this
>kernel.
>
>If my understanding is correct, doesn't that make packaging FFADO in
>practice redundent?
>
>I am not a pro so not totally sure I have grasped all the issues here.
>However this is the result of 3 years of owning (and in the main
>failing) to get a Edirl FA-66 device to work.
>
>On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Eric Hedekar  wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Mac McIlvaine  wrote:
>>> At Thursday, 29 October 2009, you wrote:
>>>
Ubuntu Studio is a multimedia editing/creation flavor of Ubuntu,
built
for the GNU/Linux audio, video, and graphics enthusiast or
professional.  http://www.ubuntustudio.org

The Ubuntu Studio team is proud to announce its sixth release:
Ubuntu
Studio 9.10 "Karmic Koala". With this release, which you can 
download
in a 1.4GB DVD, Ubuntu Studio offers a pre-made selection of 
packages,
targeted at audio producers, video producers and graphic designers.
Ubuntu Studio greatly simplifies the Linux-based multimedia workstation.

>>>

>>>
>>> I poked around on the web but haven't found anything definitive.
>>> Is ffado using the new stack with this release?
>>>
>>> Mac
>>>
>>
>> Unfortunately I believe ffado still is using the old stack (or at
>> least the karmic packages still use the old stack).  But the new 
stack
>> is now in place for when ffado wants to use it.
>>
>> -Eric
>>
>> --

I have the old stack running with 9.0.4 ...I remember having to take 
special steps to replace the juju stack with the old stack. That 
and a special compile of the RT kernel to get xrun free use of my 
AF12's.

Mac



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Re: Ubuntu Studio 9.10 Karmic Koala

2009-10-29 Thread Eric Hedekar
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:19 AM, greg loyse  wrote:

> FFADO doesn't work with the new firewire stack (called juju):
>
> http://ieee1394.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Juju_Migration#Compatibility_and_stability
>
> FFADO support for the new stack is far in the future:
> http://subversion.ffado.org/milestone/FFADO%203.0
>
> My understanding is that if the Ubuntu 9.10 RT kernel was compiled
> using the new stack (you can choose which one when you compile), FFADO
> (and therefore firewire audio devices) won't be supported with this
> kernel.
>
> If my understanding is correct, doesn't that make packaging FFADO in
> practice redundent?
>
> I am not a pro so not totally sure I have grasped all the issues here.
> However this is the result of 3 years of owning (and in the main
> failing) to get a Edirl FA-66 device to work.
>

NO.  The firewire stack in Karmic is backward compatible.  I played a show
with my Firepod last week on the Karmic Release Candidate.  FFADO WORKS
GREAT in Karmic.

To quote from that first link of yours: For now, FireWire audio users need
to continue to work with the old drivers, to which libraw1394 v2 will remain
fully compatible.

The immediate benefit of the new 2.0 firewire stack (from what I understand)
is for Video devices.  Audio devices will see this benefit when FFADO's
drivers are migrated to the new stack.

-Eric
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Re: Ubuntu Studio 9.10 Karmic Koala

2009-10-29 Thread greg loyse
FFADO doesn't work with the new firewire stack (called juju):
http://ieee1394.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Juju_Migration#Compatibility_and_stability

FFADO support for the new stack is far in the future:
http://subversion.ffado.org/milestone/FFADO%203.0

My understanding is that if the Ubuntu 9.10 RT kernel was compiled
using the new stack (you can choose which one when you compile), FFADO
(and therefore firewire audio devices) won't be supported with this
kernel.

If my understanding is correct, doesn't that make packaging FFADO in
practice redundent?

I am not a pro so not totally sure I have grasped all the issues here.
However this is the result of 3 years of owning (and in the main
failing) to get a Edirl FA-66 device to work.


On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Eric Hedekar  wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Mac McIlvaine  wrote:
>> At Thursday, 29 October 2009, you wrote:
>>
>>>Ubuntu Studio is a multimedia editing/creation flavor of Ubuntu, built
>>>for the GNU/Linux audio, video, and graphics enthusiast or
>>>professional.  http://www.ubuntustudio.org
>>>
>>>The Ubuntu Studio team is proud to announce its sixth release: Ubuntu
>>>Studio 9.10 "Karmic Koala". With this release, which you can download
>>>in a 1.4GB DVD, Ubuntu Studio offers a pre-made selection of packages,
>>>targeted at audio producers, video producers and graphic designers.
>>>Ubuntu Studio greatly simplifies the Linux-based multimedia workstation.
>>
>>>
>>
>> I poked around on the web but haven't found anything definitive.
>> Is ffado using the new stack with this release?
>>
>> Mac
>>
>
> Unfortunately I believe ffado still is using the old stack (or at
> least the karmic packages still use the old stack).  But the new stack
> is now in place for when ffado wants to use it.
>
> -Eric
>
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Re: Ubuntu Studio 9.10 Karmic Koala

2009-10-29 Thread Eric Hedekar
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Mac McIlvaine  wrote:
> At Thursday, 29 October 2009, you wrote:
>
>>Ubuntu Studio is a multimedia editing/creation flavor of Ubuntu, built
>>for the GNU/Linux audio, video, and graphics enthusiast or
>>professional.  http://www.ubuntustudio.org
>>
>>The Ubuntu Studio team is proud to announce its sixth release: Ubuntu
>>Studio 9.10 "Karmic Koala". With this release, which you can download
>>in a 1.4GB DVD, Ubuntu Studio offers a pre-made selection of packages,
>>targeted at audio producers, video producers and graphic designers.
>>Ubuntu Studio greatly simplifies the Linux-based multimedia workstation.
>
>>
>
> I poked around on the web but haven't found anything definitive.
> Is ffado using the new stack with this release?
>
> Mac
>

Unfortunately I believe ffado still is using the old stack (or at
least the karmic packages still use the old stack).  But the new stack
is now in place for when ffado wants to use it.

-Eric

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Re: Ubuntu Studio 9.10 Karmic Koala

2009-10-29 Thread Tommy Hjalmarsson
Eric Hedekar skrev:
> Ubuntu Studio is a multimedia editing/creation flavor of Ubuntu, built
> for the GNU/Linux audio, video, and graphics enthusiast or
> professional.  http://www.ubuntustudio.org
>
> The Ubuntu Studio team is proud to announce its sixth release: Ubuntu
> Studio 9.10 "Karmic Koala". With this release, which you can download
> in a 1.4GB DVD, Ubuntu Studio offers a pre-made selection of packages,
> targeted at audio producers, video producers and graphic designers.
> Ubuntu Studio greatly simplifies the Linux-based multimedia workstation.
>
> Downloads of the install DVD are available here:
> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/9.10/release
>
> For Ubuntu Studio 9.10 we have continued to grow our feature set,
> update packages, and fix critical bugs to better the Ubuntu Studio
> user experience.
>
> We are happy to announce that the real time kernel will be an official
> upstream release patch.  It will be installed by default if the audio
> task is selected. We have tested it heavily and are very happy with it's
> performance in audio environments.
>
> Features/Improvements:
>
>   * Official upstream RT kernel release (i.e. it's very stable)
>   * Font meta package added to the graphics meta, which installs
> literally hundreds of free fonts
>   * Xwax (http://xwax.co.uk) and a2jmidid (http://home.gna.org/a2jmidid/)
> packaged and added to the audio meta-package
>   * Xjadeo (http://xjadeo.sourceforge.net/) added to the video meta
>   * Network tools like NetworkManager and Pidgin will be available on
> the DVD disc repository but not installed by default
>   * Firewire libraries are now upgraded to 2.0
>   * MANY newer versions of applications (Ardour, Gimp, Blender,
> Inkscape, Audacity, Kino, Scribus, Denemo, Hugin, etc...)
> for exact versions please see: http://packages.ubuntu.com
>
> See the Ubuntu release notes for other non Ubuntu Studio specific changes.
>
> As our wiki page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio states, "our
> aim is to make it more accessible for new users to get into the tools
> that GNU/Linux has to offer for multimedia creation and production. We
> also want to spotlight what's out there, and show users tools they
> might not know to exist."
>
> Thanks to all who helped in Ubuntu Studio 9.10's creation!
>
>   
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Re: Ubuntu Studio 9.10 Karmic Koala

2009-10-29 Thread Mac McIlvaine
At Thursday, 29 October 2009, you wrote:

>Ubuntu Studio is a multimedia editing/creation flavor of Ubuntu, built
>for the GNU/Linux audio, video, and graphics enthusiast or
>professional.  http://www.ubuntustudio.org
>
>The Ubuntu Studio team is proud to announce its sixth release: Ubuntu
>Studio 9.10 "Karmic Koala". With this release, which you can download
>in a 1.4GB DVD, Ubuntu Studio offers a pre-made selection of packages,
>targeted at audio producers, video producers and graphic designers.
>Ubuntu Studio greatly simplifies the Linux-based multimedia workstation.

>

I poked around on the web but haven't found anything definitive. 
Is ffado using the new stack with this release?

Mac



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