Re: Upgrading Jaunty to Studio?
snip In the end, I'd recommend just downloading the metapackages, minus desktop, because this also updates certain config files (like /etc/security/limits.conf) for you. This is in fact how I do it. It has worked great for me thus far. Precisely what function does the ubuntu-desktop package serve? Are they just graphical improvements? I do have it installed and it hasn't caused any problems so far. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
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Eric Zhang kirjoitti: Precisely what function does the ubuntu-desktop package serve? It is just another meta package. http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/ubuntustudio-desktop About meta packages: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages Best Regards Asmo Koskinen. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Upgrading Jaunty to Studio?
Hi, this is the right way to doit. Otherwise download a Jaunty Unbuntu studio. Regards Teza . Le jeudi 06 août 2009 à 11:17 -0700, Natalia Rakowski a écrit : Hello everyone - I'm new to this list. I've searched the archives for an answer, but did not find one. I have a fresh install of Jaunty that I would like to update to Ubuntu Studio. I was expecting to do a simple command line update like I have in the past, but the instructions seem to be more complicated for Jaunty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation For previous versions, the docs say to use the following command: sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video linux-rt Is it not possible to do an upgrade this way with Jaunty or have the docs not been updated? The docs I'm looking at are here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation Any info is greatly appreciated! -- Natalia -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Upgrading Jaunty to Studio?
Sorry. What's the right way to do it? 1.) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation 2.) sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video linux-rt If you can't do #2. Can someone explain why so that I understand? Also, under #1 it says: Currently, the Ubuntu preferred version for production would be Ubuntu Hardy LTS. It is indicated where to find backports for important applicatio1an like Ardour on this page. So does that mean that Jaunty is not stable for everyday use? Thank you! -- Natalia --- On Thu, 8/6/09, teza tsalio...@orange.fr wrote: From: teza tsalio...@orange.fr Subject: Re: Upgrading Jaunty to Studio? To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:26 PM Hi, this is the right way to doit. Otherwise download a Jaunty Unbuntu studio. Regards Teza . Le jeudi 06 août 2009 à 11:17 -0700, Natalia Rakowski a écrit : Hello everyone - I'm new to this list. I've searched the archives for an answer, but did not find one. I have a fresh install of Jaunty that I would like to update to Ubuntu Studio. I was expecting to do a simple command line update like I have in the past, but the instructions seem to be more complicated for Jaunty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation For previous versions, the docs say to use the following command: sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video linux-rt Is it not possible to do an upgrade this way with Jaunty or have the docs not been updated? The docs I'm looking at are here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation Any info is greatly appreciated! -- Natalia -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Upgrading Jaunty to Studio?
Don't be angry with me , I'm telling you if you want to go to Ubuntu studio you've got to install all ubuntu studio package and the Linux rt kernel. You can't upgrade in another way. And it's also right that the hary one is the more stable one. cheers Teza Le jeudi 06 août 2009 à 11:38 -0700, Natalia Rakowski a écrit : Sorry. What's the right way to do it? 1.) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation 2.) sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video linux-rt If you can't do #2. Can someone explain why so that I understand? Also, under #1 it says: Currently, the Ubuntu preferred version for production would be Ubuntu Hardy LTS. It is indicated where to find backports for important applicatio1an like Ardour on this page. So does that mean that Jaunty is not stable for everyday use? Thank you! -- Natalia --- On Thu, 8/6/09, teza tsalio...@orange.fr wrote: From: teza tsalio...@orange.fr Subject: Re: Upgrading Jaunty to Studio? To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:26 PM Hi, this is the right way to doit. Otherwise download a Jaunty Unbuntu studio. Regards Teza . Le jeudi 06 août 2009 à 11:17 -0700, Natalia Rakowski a écrit : Hello everyone - I'm new to this list. I've searched the archives for an answer, but did not find one. I have a fresh install of Jaunty that I would like to update to Ubuntu Studio. I was expecting to do a simple command line update like I have in the past, but the instructions seem to be more complicated for Jaunty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation For previous versions, the docs say to use the following command: sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video linux-rt Is it not possible to do an upgrade this way with Jaunty or have the docs not been updated? The docs I'm looking at are here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation Any info is greatly appreciated! -- Natalia -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Upgrading Jaunty to Studio?
I'm not sure where you're getting the idea from that I'm angry. I'm just trying to pose the questions as clearly as possible. Can I do #2 that I posted below below: (sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video linux-rt) in Jaunty or do I have to follow the instructions in #1? In previous versions I was able to do #2, but the instructions on the website point to: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation which doesn't tell you that you can just install the ubuntustudio packages. So, just to understand. Can I do #2 or do I have to go through all of the various steps in #1? Thank you... -- Natalia --- On Thu, 8/6/09, teza tsalio...@orange.fr wrote: From: teza tsalio...@orange.fr Subject: Re: Upgrading Jaunty to Studio? To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:48 PM Don't be angry with me , I'm telling you if you want to go to Ubuntu studio you've got to install all ubuntu studio package and the Linux rt kernel. You can't upgrade in another way. And it's also right that the hary one is the more stable one. cheers Teza Le jeudi 06 août 2009 à 11:38 -0700, Natalia Rakowski a écrit : Sorry. What's the right way to do it? 1.) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation 2.) sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video linux-rt If you can't do #2. Can someone explain why so that I understand? Also, under #1 it says: Currently, the Ubuntu preferred version for production would be Ubuntu Hardy LTS. It is indicated where to find backports for important applicatio1an like Ardour on this page. So does that mean that Jaunty is not stable for everyday use? Thank you! -- Natalia --- On Thu, 8/6/09, teza tsalio...@orange.fr wrote: From: teza tsalio...@orange.fr Subject: Re: Upgrading Jaunty to Studio? To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:26 PM Hi, this is the right way to doit. Otherwise download a Jaunty Unbuntu studio. Regards Teza . Le jeudi 06 août 2009 à 11:17 -0700, Natalia Rakowski a écrit : Hello everyone - I'm new to this list. I've searched the archives for an answer, but did not find one. I have a fresh install of Jaunty that I would like to update to Ubuntu Studio. I was expecting to do a simple command line update like I have in the past, but the instructions seem to be more complicated for Jaunty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation For previous versions, the docs say to use the following command: sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video linux-rt Is it not possible to do an upgrade this way with Jaunty or have the docs not been updated? The docs I'm looking at are here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation Any info is greatly appreciated! -- Natalia -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Upgrading Jaunty to Studio?
Hi, do #1 first, and install the ubuntu studio after. It's what I will do Cheers Teza Le jeudi 06 août 2009 à 11:54 -0700, Natalia Rakowski a écrit : I'm not sure where you're getting the idea from that I'm angry. I'm just trying to pose the questions as clearly as possible. Can I do #2 that I posted below below: (sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video linux-rt) in Jaunty or do I have to follow the instructions in #1? In previous versions I was able to do #2, but the instructions on the website point to: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation which doesn't tell you that you can just install the ubuntustudio packages. So, just to understand. Can I do #2 or do I have to go through all of the various steps in #1? Thank you... -- Natalia --- On Thu, 8/6/09, teza tsalio...@orange.fr wrote: From: teza tsalio...@orange.fr Subject: Re: Upgrading Jaunty to Studio? To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:48 PM Don't be angry with me , I'm telling you if you want to go to Ubuntu studio you've got to install all ubuntu studio package and the Linux rt kernel. You can't upgrade in another way. And it's also right that the hary one is the more stable one. cheers Teza Le jeudi 06 août 2009 à 11:38 -0700, Natalia Rakowski a écrit : Sorry. What's the right way to do it? 1.) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation 2.) sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video linux-rt If you can't do #2. Can someone explain why so that I understand? Also, under #1 it says: Currently, the Ubuntu preferred version for production would be Ubuntu Hardy LTS. It is indicated where to find backports for important applicatio1an like Ardour on this page. So does that mean that Jaunty is not stable for everyday use? Thank you! -- Natalia --- On Thu, 8/6/09, teza tsalio...@orange.fr wrote: From: teza tsalio...@orange.fr Subject: Re: Upgrading Jaunty to Studio? To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:26 PM Hi, this is the right way to doit. Otherwise download a Jaunty Unbuntu studio. Regards Teza . Le jeudi 06 août 2009 à 11:17 -0700, Natalia Rakowski a écrit : Hello everyone - I'm new to this list. I've searched the archives for an answer, but did not find one. I have a fresh install of Jaunty that I would like to update to Ubuntu Studio. I was expecting to do a simple command line update like I have in the past, but the instructions seem to be more complicated for Jaunty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation For previous versions, the docs say to use the following command: sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video linux-rt Is it not possible to do an upgrade this way with Jaunty or have the docs not been updated? The docs I'm looking at are here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation Any info is greatly appreciated! -- Natalia -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Upgrading Jaunty to Studio?
Gotcha. Thank you very much! -- Natalia --- On Thu, 8/6/09, teza tsalio...@orange.fr wrote: From: teza tsalio...@orange.fr Subject: Re: Upgrading Jaunty to Studio? To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 3:21 PM Hi, do #1 first, and install the ubuntu studio after. It's what I will do Cheers Teza Le jeudi 06 août 2009 à 11:54 -0700, Natalia Rakowski a écrit : I'm not sure where you're getting the idea from that I'm angry. I'm just trying to pose the questions as clearly as possible. Can I do #2 that I posted below below: (sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video linux-rt) in Jaunty or do I have to follow the instructions in #1? In previous versions I was able to do #2, but the instructions on the website point to: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation which doesn't tell you that you can just install the ubuntustudio packages. So, just to understand. Can I do #2 or do I have to go through all of the various steps in #1? Thank you... -- Natalia --- On Thu, 8/6/09, teza tsalio...@orange.fr wrote: From: teza tsalio...@orange.fr Subject: Re: Upgrading Jaunty to Studio? To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:48 PM Don't be angry with me , I'm telling you if you want to go to Ubuntu studio you've got to install all ubuntu studio package and the Linux rt kernel. You can't upgrade in another way. And it's also right that the hary one is the more stable one. cheers Teza Le jeudi 06 août 2009 à 11:38 -0700, Natalia Rakowski a écrit : Sorry. What's the right way to do it? 1.) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation 2.) sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video linux-rt If you can't do #2. Can someone explain why so that I understand? Also, under #1 it says: Currently, the Ubuntu preferred version for production would be Ubuntu Hardy LTS. It is indicated where to find backports for important applicatio1an like Ardour on this page. So does that mean that Jaunty is not stable for everyday use? Thank you! -- Natalia --- On Thu, 8/6/09, teza tsalio...@orange.fr wrote: From: teza tsalio...@orange.fr Subject: Re: Upgrading Jaunty to Studio? To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:26 PM Hi, this is the right way to doit. Otherwise download a Jaunty Unbuntu studio. Regards Teza . Le jeudi 06 août 2009 à 11:17 -0700, Natalia Rakowski a écrit : Hello everyone - I'm new to this list. I've searched the archives for an answer, but did not find one. I have a fresh install of Jaunty that I would like to update to Ubuntu Studio. I was expecting to do a simple command line update like I have in the past, but the instructions seem to be more complicated for Jaunty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation For previous versions, the docs say to use the following command: sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video linux-rt Is it not possible to do an upgrade this way with Jaunty or have the docs not been updated? The docs I'm looking at are here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation Any info is greatly appreciated! -- Natalia -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Upgrading Jaunty to Studio?
On Aug 6, 2009 1:17pm, Natalia Rakowski n_rakow...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello everyone - I'm new to this list. I've searched the archives for an answer, but did not find one. I have a fresh install of Jaunty that I would like to update to Ubuntu Studio. I was expecting to do a simple command line update like I have in the past, but the instructions seem to be more complicated for Jaunty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation For previous versions, the docs say to use the following command: sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-desktop ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video linux-rt Is it not possible to do an upgrade this way with Jaunty or have the docs not been updated? The docs I'm looking at are here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation Any info is greatly appreciated! -- Natalia Hi, Natalia. Since you're new, you should also know that the etiquette on this list is to post on the bottom of the quoted text when replying, not on the top. As for your question, it will work perfectly fine for you to just install the Ubuntu Studio metapackages: ubuntustudio-audio, ubuntustudio-audio-plugins, ubuntustudio-graphics and ubuntustudio-video. You should probably not install the ubuntustudio-desktop packages due to some conflicts with the regular Ubuntu desktop. This is why the instructions link you to the Ubuntu Studio Preparation page. That page is actually just a guide to installing most of the individual packages to be found in Ubuntu Studio, which essentially makes your machine like Ubuntu Studio, just without certain features (as the first line in the instructions indicates). In the end, I'd recommend just downloading the metapackages, minus desktop, because this also updates certain config files (like /etc/security/limits.conf) for you. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Upgrading Jaunty to Studio?
--- On Thu, 8/6/09, beej...@gmail.com beej...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Natalia. Since you're new, you should also know that the etiquette on this list is to post on the bottom of the quoted text when replying, not on the top. As for your question, it will work perfectly fine for you to just install the Ubuntu Studio metapackages: ubuntustudio-audio, ubuntustudio-audio-plugins, ubuntustudio-graphics and ubuntustudio-video. You should probably not install the ubuntustudio-desktop packages due to some conflicts with the regular Ubuntu desktop. This is why the instructions link you to the Ubuntu Studio Preparation page. That page is actually just a guide to installing most of the individual packages to be found in Ubuntu Studio, which essentially makes your machine like Ubuntu Studio, just without certain features (as the first line in the instructions indicates). In the end, I'd recommend just downloading the metapackages, minus desktop, because this also updates certain config files (like /etc/security/limits.conf) for you. No problem. Is that explained somewhere? I didn't see it on the info page or in the welcome message. I just installed the metapackages including the desktop earlier today. What kind of conflicts with the regular Ubuntu desktop are there so that I know what to look for. Everything seems to be working okay so far including the RT kernel which I've been reading has some issue for certain setups. Thanks... -- Natalia -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Fwd: Re: Re: Upgrading Jaunty to Studio?
On Aug 6, 2009 9:08pm, Natalia Rakowski n_rakow...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Thu, 8/6/09, beej...@gmail.com beej...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure what specific issues you might run into, I'm getting my info from this old e-mail from Cory K.: Just a note: This current chat was my concern. Grabbing -desktop grabs -settings and -menu. This will cause issues. If it already hasn't been set to conflict in Jaunty, it will be. This side grade will be investigated. I think the future recommendation will to only grab the multimedia metas and the art. -Cory K. It doesn't go into details, though I think later in that thread he mentions there are issues when either upgrading to a new version of Ubuntu, or of you try to side-grade back to a regular Ubuntu install. Also, you're right that the Ubuntu Studio Preparation documentation doesn't mention at all that you can just download the metapackages. This is something that someone should probably just take the initiative and write (Hey, maybe even me.) Like many people, I'm familiar with this way of side-grading from doing it with older versions and reading this list. Resending this post, because I just realized I sent it to only Natalia and not the whole list. Also, I realize now that Natalia was referring to the bottom-post policy. I don't think this is mentioned on the website anywhere. It probably should be. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
