Re: new Studio user writes

2013-07-30 Thread adam
Wow. Thank you gentlemen, Ralf, Abe, Adam, Kaj. Just great. 

The SB Live card is OK. I can distinguish between it and the 
onboard Via chipset. And load Soundfonts into it. I will leave 
Pulse Audio as-is for now. 

:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [Live   ]: EMU10K1 - SB Live! [CT4620]
 SB Live! [CT4620] (rev.4, serial:0x211102) at 0xd000, irq 16

 1 [V8237  ]: VIA8237 - VIA 8237
 VIA 8237 with CMI9739 at 0xb800, irq 22
:~$ 

After I wrote, late that night with some persistence, I set up 
Qtractor to play MIDI to Qsynth, and saved the Qtractor score 
as I went. 

Was so impressed, I tried to get Audacity to record via jack, but 
didn't quite manage that. 

So in general I guess we start with Qjackctrl first. 
Although; Session/Connect/PatchBay, I not sure how I'd save a 
working complex patch.   


It seems I am under way, folks. And know I can get back with specific 
questions if need be. Thank you again. 

Perhaps one neat trick is to start the applications from the 
command line, to get used to the Options and also the Error 
reports. 




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Re: new Studio user writes

2013-07-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 23:43 +1200, adam wrote:
 :~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
  0 [Live   ]: EMU10K1 - SB Live! [CT4620]
  SB Live! [CT4620] (rev.4, serial:0x211102) at 0xd000, irq 16
 
  1 [V8237  ]: VIA8237 - VIA 8237
  VIA 8237 with CMI9739 at 0xb800, irq 22

To ensure that the EMU card after each startup is the default card hw:0
you can run


sudo echo options snd slots=snd_emu10k1  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf


or


gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf


and manually add


options snd slots=snd_emu10k1


to the file.

Does QjackCtl display xruns or do you get any audible glitches, if you
listen to audio when using Jack? You can see xruns, if you push the
Messages button of QjackCtl or in the display of QjackCtl, it does
show number (number), e.g. 0 (0) when you don't get xruns.

What is the output of


cat ~/.jackdrc


?


Also post the output of


service rtirq status


Regards,
Ralf


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Re: new Studio user writes

2013-07-30 Thread adam

 To ensure that the EMU card after each startup is the default card hw:0
 you can run
 
 sudo echo options snd slots=snd_emu10k1  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
 
 or
 
 gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf

 and manually add

 options snd slots=snd_emu10k1
 
 to the file.

OK. Yes this sounds a good idea. 


 Does QjackCtl display xruns or do you get any audible glitches, if you
 listen to audio when using Jack? You can see xruns, if you push the
 Messages button of QjackCtl or in the display of QjackCtl, it does
 show number (number), e.g. 0 (0) when you don't get xruns.


OK. Will check the xruns displays or use the 'Messages' button next time. 
No, Audio has been good, no glitches. The low latency kernel is great.
AMD at 1.9 or 2 GHZ, I know I can expect them sooner or later.  


 What is the output of cat ~/.jackdrc ?

---@---:~$ cat ~/.jackdrc
/usr/bin/jackd -dalsa -dhw:1,0 -r44100 -p1024 -n2

---@---:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [Live   ]: EMU10K1 - SB Live! [CT4620]
  SB Live! [CT4620] (rev.4, serial:0x211102) at 0xd000, irq 
16
 1 [V8237  ]: VIA8237 - VIA 8237
  VIA 8237 with CMI9739 at 0xb800, irq 22


 Also post the output of 'service rtirq status'


:~$ service rtirq status

  PID CLS RTPRIO  NI PRI %CPU STAT COMMAND  
   46 FF  90   - 130  0.0 Sirq/8-rtc0   
  756 FF  85   - 125  0.0 Sirq/22-snd_via8  
   39 FF  80   - 120  0.0 Sirq/21-uhci_hcd  
   40 FF  79   - 119  0.0 Sirq/21-uhci_hcd  
   41 FF  78   - 118  0.0 Sirq/21-uhci_hcd  
   42 FF  77   - 117  0.0 Sirq/21-uhci_hcd  
   45 FF  75   - 115  0.0 Sirq/1-i8042  
   44 FF  74   - 114  0.0 Sirq/12-i8042 
   16 FF  50   -  90  0.0 Sirq/9-acpi   
   38 FF  50   -  90  0.0 Sirq/21-ehci_hcd  
  163 FF  50   -  90  0.0 Sirq/14-pata_via  
  164 FF  50   -  90  0.0 Sirq/15-pata_via  
  170 FF  50   -  90  0.0 Sirq/20-sata_via  
  193 FF  50   -  90  0.0 Sirq/6-floppy 
  206 FF  50   -  90  0.0 Sirq/17-firewire  
  519 FF  50   -  90  0.0 Sirq/7-parport0   
  747 FF  50   -  90  0.0 Sirq/16-snd_emu1  
  759 FF  50   -  90  0.0 Sirq/16-nouveau   
  896 FF  50   -  90  0.1 Sirq/18-eth0  
3 TS   -   0  19  0.2 Rksoftirqd/0  

:~$ 


Great. Yes, I am still studying /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
 
Here it is currently, sorry for the wrapping; 


---@---:~$ cat /etc/modprobe.d//alsa-base.conf 
# autoloader aliases
install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-0
install sound-slot-1 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-1
install sound-slot-2 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-2
install sound-slot-3 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-3
install sound-slot-4 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-4
install sound-slot-5 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-5
install sound-slot-6 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-6
install sound-slot-7 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-7

# Cause optional modules to be loaded above generic modules
install snd /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd $CMDLINE_OPTS 
{ /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-ioctl32 ; /sbin/modprobe
--quiet --use-blacklist snd-seq ; }
#
# Workaround at bug #499695 (reverted in Ubuntu see LP #319505)
install snd-pcm /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-pcm $CMDLINE_OPTS 
{ /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-pcm-oss ; : ; }
install snd-mixer /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-mixer
$CMDLINE_OPTS  { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist
snd-mixer-oss ; : ; }
install snd-seq /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-seq $CMDLINE_OPTS 
{ /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-seq-midi ; /sbin/modprobe
--quiet --use-blacklist snd-seq-oss ; : ; }
#
install snd-rawmidi /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-rawmidi
$CMDLINE_OPTS  { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist
snd-seq-midi ; : ; }
# Cause optional modules to be loaded above sound card driver modules
install snd-emu10k1 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1
$CMDLINE_OPTS  { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist
snd-emu10k1-synth ; }
install snd-via82xx /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-via82xx
$CMDLINE_OPTS  { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-seq ; }

# Load saa7134-alsa instead of saa7134 (which gets dragged in by it
anyway)
install saa7134 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install saa7134 $CMDLINE_OPTS 
{ /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist saa7134-alsa ; : ; }
# Prevent abnormal drivers from grabbing index 0
options bt87x index=-2
options cx88_alsa index=-2
options saa7134-alsa index=-2
options snd-atiixp-modem index=-2
options snd-intel8x0m index=-2
options snd-via82xx-modem index=-2
options snd-usb-audio index=-2
options snd-usb-caiaq index=-2
options snd-usb-ua101 index=-2
options snd-usb-us122l index=-2
options snd-usb-usx2y index=-2
# Ubuntu #62691, enable MPU for snd-cmipci
options snd-cmipci mpu_port=0x330 fm_port=0x388
# Keep snd-pcsp from being loaded as first soundcard
options snd-pcsp index=-2
# Keep snd-usb-audio 

Re: new Studio user writes

2013-07-29 Thread Jimmy Sjölund
Hi,

there are some information gathered and linked on
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/HowTos and
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Resources . You could also
log on to the IRC channel #ubuntustudio to ask questions.
http://wiki.linuxaudio.org is also a good resource.


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:35 AM, adam ah...@orcon.net.nz wrote:

 Newly installed 12.04 Studio. And Xfce seems nice.
 I am interested in Audio, primarily.

 So, with the U Forums down, where should I start?

 There are many apps from the Audio Production menu,
 but I guess mastering patching jack is step 1 ?
 Do I still need pasuspend?

 Is there a Studio Tutorial on setting up jack ?
 Perhaps the jack site for Command line Alt-F2,
 or perhaps the Qjackctl site ?

 A Tutorial on how to get, say, Qtractor driving any
 of the Synths, via jack I guess, would be helpful.

 Or simply a flow-chart, suggesting in which order
 to start the applications up in, would be a start.
 It would be nice to then Save that as a Project.

 Any Tutorials or suggestions on getting started with
 Studio Audio, much appreciated.




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Re: new Studio user writes

2013-07-29 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013, at 11:35 AM, adam wrote:
 Newly installed 12.04 Studio. And Xfce seems nice.
 I am interested in Audio, primarily. 
 
 So, with the U Forums down, where should I start?
 
 There are many apps from the Audio Production menu, 
 but I guess mastering patching jack is step 1 ?
 Do I still need pasuspend?  
  

If using qjackct, just select your card and start jack. 

You can find more info here
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro

 Is there a Studio Tutorial on setting up jack ?
 Perhaps the jack site for Command line Alt-F2, 
 or perhaps the Qjackctl site ?
 
 A Tutorial on how to get, say, Qtractor driving any 
 of the Synths, via jack I guess, would be helpful. 
 
 Or simply a flow-chart, suggesting in which order 
 to start the applications up in, would be a start. 
 It would be nice to then Save that as a Project. 
 
 Any Tutorials or suggestions on getting started with 
 Studio Audio, much appreciated.
 
 
 
 
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Re: new Studio user writes

2013-07-29 Thread Abe Caleb
Jack is easy to configure. It is the Pulse audio that can be a real bad
player in this.

If you like you can install Teamviewer and share you screen where I can
give you pointers on how to work with Jack and he audio settings.

www.teamviewer.com - Make sure you get the teamviewer for Linux or Ubuntu.
It is free.

Thanks,
Abe


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:35 AM, adam ah...@orcon.net.nz wrote:

 Newly installed 12.04 Studio. And Xfce seems nice.
 I am interested in Audio, primarily.

 So, with the U Forums down, where should I start?

 There are many apps from the Audio Production menu,
 but I guess mastering patching jack is step 1 ?
 Do I still need pasuspend?

 Is there a Studio Tutorial on setting up jack ?
 Perhaps the jack site for Command line Alt-F2,
 or perhaps the Qjackctl site ?

 A Tutorial on how to get, say, Qtractor driving any
 of the Synths, via jack I guess, would be helpful.

 Or simply a flow-chart, suggesting in which order
 to start the applications up in, would be a start.
 It would be nice to then Save that as a Project.

 Any Tutorials or suggestions on getting started with
 Studio Audio, much appreciated.




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Re: new Studio user writes

2013-07-29 Thread Kaj Ailomaa


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013, at 02:02 PM, Abe Caleb wrote:
 Jack is easy to configure. It is the Pulse audio that can be a real bad
 player in this.
 
 If you like you can install Teamviewer and share you screen where I can
 give you pointers on how to work with Jack and he audio settings.
 
 www.teamviewer.com - Make sure you get the teamviewer for Linux or
 Ubuntu.
 It is free.
 
 Thanks,
 Abe
 

On Ubuntu Studio, the pulseaudio jack module loads automatically, when
starting jack, so from there - if you want pulseaudio routed to jack,
you only need to set pulseaudio to use jack as input/output from the
pulseaudio mixer.

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Re: new Studio user writes

2013-07-29 Thread Abe Caleb
I do not like pulse audio so I disabled it. I only use Jack now.


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me wrote:



 On Mon, Jul 29, 2013, at 02:02 PM, Abe Caleb wrote:
  Jack is easy to configure. It is the Pulse audio that can be a real bad
  player in this.
 
  If you like you can install Teamviewer and share you screen where I can
  give you pointers on how to work with Jack and he audio settings.
 
  www.teamviewer.com - Make sure you get the teamviewer for Linux or
  Ubuntu.
  It is free.
 
  Thanks,
  Abe
 

 On Ubuntu Studio, the pulseaudio jack module loads automatically, when
 starting jack, so from there - if you want pulseaudio routed to jack,
 you only need to set pulseaudio to use jack as input/output from the
 pulseaudio mixer.

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Re: new Studio user writes

2013-07-29 Thread Kaj Ailomaa


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013, at 02:27 PM, Abe Caleb wrote:
 I do not like pulse audio so I disabled it. I only use Jack now.
 
 

Just for your information, disabling pulseaudio won't increase jack
performance, however disabling the module will.

One way to disable the module is to uninstall pulseaudio-module-jack. 
However, the module only auto loads, if running jackdbus instead of
jackd - which is the default for qjackctl.

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Re: new Studio user writes

2013-07-29 Thread Abe Caleb
My intention is not to increase performance. Pulse Audio was causing too
many problems and interfering with my alsa apps.  Now I can run mixxx and
all other apps together, including Firefox,  and all audio is working.


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me wrote:



 On Mon, Jul 29, 2013, at 02:27 PM, Abe Caleb wrote:
  I do not like pulse audio so I disabled it. I only use Jack now.
 
 

 Just for your information, disabling pulseaudio won't increase jack
 performance, however disabling the module will.

 One way to disable the module is to uninstall pulseaudio-module-jack.
 However, the module only auto loads, if running jackdbus instead of
 jackd - which is the default for qjackctl.

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Re: new Studio user writes

2013-07-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
A newbie is asking how to do a start, please don't hijack this thread.
Sometime ago we did something similar and the OP of this other thread
never came back.

If you want to discuss pulseaudio please open a new thread.

IMO the OP should give us some information, so we can explain how to set
up jackd, e.g. that the OP shouldn't touch periods/buffer size, excepted
it's some crappy internal device that should be used with a value of 3
instead of 2. Latency should be set by using frames/period and sample
rate only etc. pp., however, we still need some information from the OP.

E.g. what I already ask to do:

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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:50:29 +0200

You can get some hints on this list.

First of all push

The Alt-Key and F2-key at the same time and then type

xfce4-terminal

In the terminal emulation type

cat /proc/asound/cards

then mark the output with the mouse, with a right click open a menu to
copy it. Past it to the next mail you send to the list.


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Re: new Studio user writes

2013-07-29 Thread Abe Caleb
Adam it depends on what you need to do in Jack.
I use it for many different scenarios such as mixing a composition from
LMMS (Linux Multimedia Studio) to vocals in Audacity. Or you may want to
record something from YouTube and mix with audio in Audacity.
With Jack you can do this.
There are many other uses for it and you will enjoy using it as you gain
confidence and knowledge in how it works.

I use it all the time and you are welcome to share my desktop and see how I
have it set up.


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:35 AM, adam ah...@orcon.net.nz wrote:

 Newly installed 12.04 Studio. And Xfce seems nice.
 I am interested in Audio, primarily.

 So, with the U Forums down, where should I start?

 There are many apps from the Audio Production menu,
 but I guess mastering patching jack is step 1 ?
 Do I still need pasuspend?

 Is there a Studio Tutorial on setting up jack ?
 Perhaps the jack site for Command line Alt-F2,
 or perhaps the Qjackctl site ?

 A Tutorial on how to get, say, Qtractor driving any
 of the Synths, via jack I guess, would be helpful.

 Or simply a flow-chart, suggesting in which order
 to start the applications up in, would be a start.
 It would be nice to then Save that as a Project.

 Any Tutorials or suggestions on getting started with
 Studio Audio, much appreciated.




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Re: new Studio user writes

2013-07-29 Thread Adam Behnke
A trick I've been using since the forums are down is to Google search my
question and view the cached page.
On Jul 29, 2013 10:29 AM, Abe Caleb theorganl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Adam it depends on what you need to do in Jack.
 I use it for many different scenarios such as mixing a composition from
 LMMS (Linux Multimedia Studio) to vocals in Audacity. Or you may want to
 record something from YouTube and mix with audio in Audacity.
 With Jack you can do this.
 There are many other uses for it and you will enjoy using it as you gain
 confidence and knowledge in how it works.

 I use it all the time and you are welcome to share my desktop and see how
 I have it set up.


 On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:35 AM, adam ah...@orcon.net.nz wrote:

 Newly installed 12.04 Studio. And Xfce seems nice.
 I am interested in Audio, primarily.

 So, with the U Forums down, where should I start?

 There are many apps from the Audio Production menu,
 but I guess mastering patching jack is step 1 ?
 Do I still need pasuspend?

 Is there a Studio Tutorial on setting up jack ?
 Perhaps the jack site for Command line Alt-F2,
 or perhaps the Qjackctl site ?

 A Tutorial on how to get, say, Qtractor driving any
 of the Synths, via jack I guess, would be helpful.

 Or simply a flow-chart, suggesting in which order
 to start the applications up in, would be a start.
 It would be nice to then Save that as a Project.

 Any Tutorials or suggestions on getting started with
 Studio Audio, much appreciated.




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