Re: Re: wacom fail

2011-07-20 Thread bart . deruyter
Be assured, I've spent about two months on choosing my drawing tablet and  
did even three months research to pick my audio card... The AudioFire12 was  
told to be 100% supported by FFADO at that time (it was about the only  
one). Apparently they forgot the midi port. Eventually it got fixed,  
indeed, but it needed fixing again, despite the fact they said it was 100%  
compatible. In the end you can only tell if it works when you have the  
hardware, research or not. And the fact remains that in one edition one  
thing works, another edition it doesn't any more, and then the next it  
works again, but something else is broken. This happens time and time  
again. On top of that once you get accustomed to a certain way of working  
to get broken things fixed, config files get moved around the system,  
that's exactly what happened to wacom, or there is a brand new system of  
configuring, using new naming conventions etc...
6 months is way too short indeed, should be at least a year cycle. Maybe,  
as I suggested in the full circle magazine, a combination of a rolling  
release, for software updates, and a yearly cycle for major system  
upgrades. That way there would be time to test the important changes, while  
people won't have to wait for updated applications.


I've got to draw, write, make music, model in 3D, not figuring out why I've  
got all those xruns all of a sudden, or why the pointer jumps to a corner  
of my screen when I click a button of my wacom. Now all of a sudden the  
lights (num lock, caps lock etc.. ) on my keyboard are gone.



Op schreef Gustin Johnson :

The LTS releases are focused on stability as opposed to features. The  
releases in between are really nothing more than betas since 6 months is  
not long enough IMO to polish a release.


Having spent 15 years running Linux, I have learned that it really does  
pay to do some research before buying any hardware. It has been a while  
since I have suffered from badly behaving hardware.



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On Jul 20, 2011 8:47 AM, "bart deruyter" bart.deruy...@gmail.com> wrote:>  
I've been browsing around in the ubuntu forums, searching for a solution.



> Apparently it is a Natty bug. There is a fix, but it requires quite some
> patching.. and at the moment, I'm not up to it.
>
> I actually am getting tiered of applying patches and fixes each time I


> upgrade. If it's not wacom, it's my soundcard, if it's not my soundcard  
it's
> my webcam.. and then there might be the wireless network card of which  
the
> driver is dropped... It is becoming extremely tiresome. The sad thing  
is, if


> I don't upgrade, I miss fixes that only can be applied by upgrading.  
Like my
> soundcard. The midi port was only available since upgrading to Natty...  
but

> then, it broke something else again.. "sigh"...



>
> Instead of focussing on new things, Ubuntu should focussing on  
stability.
> Usability by designing thought out user interfaces is fine, but only  
when
> the machine can get to work properly. So far exactly that has never  
been the



> case. I've always had a piece of hardware malfunctioning because of bad
> configuration or broken drivers, modules and whatever more there might  
be.

>
> grtz,
> Bart
>
>



> http://www.bartart3d.be/
>
>
> 2011/7/19 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net>
>
>>



>> >
>> > What can I do to trace the problem
>>
>> If you are using Synaptic and or doing backups, than
>>
>> - take a look at Synaptic's history. Was any Wacom related stuff



>> upgraded?
>> - compare Wacom related files with your last backup of the working
>> studio.
>>
>> You can see Wacom related packages eg by using Synaptic's search.
>>



>> Are you using a xorg.conf? Did you upgrade the kernel? What DE do you
>> use? I suspect GNOME2.
>>
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Re: wacom fail

2011-07-20 Thread Gustin Johnson
The LTS releases are focused on stability as opposed to features.  The
releases in between are really nothing more than betas since 6 months is not
long enough IMO to polish a release.

Having spent 15 years running Linux, I have learned that it really does pay
to do some research before buying any hardware.  It has been a while since I
have suffered from badly behaving hardware.

Sent from my Android device.  Please excuse my brevity.
On Jul 20, 2011 8:47 AM, "bart deruyter"  wrote:
> I've been browsing around in the ubuntu forums, searching for a solution.
> Apparently it is a Natty bug. There is a fix, but it requires quite some
> patching.. and at the moment, I'm not up to it.
>
> I actually am getting tiered of applying patches and fixes each time I
> upgrade. If it's not wacom, it's my soundcard, if it's not my soundcard
it's
> my webcam.. and then there might be the wireless network card of which the
> driver is dropped... It is becoming extremely tiresome. The sad thing is,
if
> I don't upgrade, I miss fixes that only can be applied by upgrading. Like
my
> soundcard. The midi port was only available since upgrading to Natty...
but
> then, it broke something else again.. "sigh"...
>
> Instead of focussing on new things, Ubuntu should focussing on stability.
> Usability by designing thought out user interfaces is fine, but only when
> the machine can get to work properly. So far exactly that has never been
the
> case. I've always had a piece of hardware malfunctioning because of bad
> configuration or broken drivers, modules and whatever more there might be.
>
> grtz,
> Bart
>
>
> http://www.bartart3d.be/
>
>
> 2011/7/19 Ralf Mardorf 
>
>>
>> >
>> > What can I do to trace the problem
>>
>> If you are using Synaptic and or doing backups, than
>>
>> - take a look at Synaptic's history. Was any Wacom related stuff
>> upgraded?
>> - compare Wacom related files with your last backup of the working
>> studio.
>>
>> You can see Wacom related packages e.g. by using Synaptic's search.
>>
>> Are you using a xorg.conf? Did you upgrade the kernel? What DE do you
>> use? I suspect GNOME2.
>>
>>
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Re: wacom fail

2011-07-20 Thread bart deruyter
I've been browsing around in the ubuntu forums, searching for a solution.
Apparently it is a Natty bug. There is a fix, but it requires quite some
patching.. and at the moment, I'm not up to it.

I actually am getting tiered of applying patches and fixes each time I
upgrade. If it's not wacom, it's my soundcard, if it's not my soundcard it's
my webcam.. and then there might be the wireless network card of which the
driver is dropped... It is becoming extremely tiresome. The sad thing is, if
I don't upgrade, I miss fixes that only can be applied by upgrading. Like my
soundcard. The midi port was only available since upgrading to Natty... but
then, it broke something else again.. "sigh"...

Instead of focussing on new things, Ubuntu should focussing on stability.
Usability by designing thought out user interfaces is fine, but only when
the machine can get to work properly. So far exactly that has never been the
case. I've always had a piece of hardware malfunctioning because of bad
configuration or broken drivers, modules and whatever more there might be.

grtz,
Bart


http://www.bartart3d.be/


2011/7/19 Ralf Mardorf 

>
> >
> > What can I do to trace the problem
>
> If you are using Synaptic and or doing backups, than
>
> - take a look at Synaptic's history. Was any Wacom related stuff
> upgraded?
> - compare Wacom related files with your last backup of the working
> studio.
>
> You can see Wacom related packages e.g. by using Synaptic's search.
>
> Are you using a xorg.conf? Did you upgrade the kernel? What DE do you
> use? I suspect GNOME2.
>
>
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Re: wacom fail

2011-07-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf

> 
> What can I do to trace the problem

If you are using Synaptic and or doing backups, than

- take a look at Synaptic's history. Was any Wacom related stuff
upgraded?
- compare Wacom related files with your last backup of the working
studio.

You can see Wacom related packages e.g. by using Synaptic's search.

Are you using a xorg.conf? Did you upgrade the kernel? What DE do you
use? I suspect GNOME2.


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