Re: Real-time kernels from the Ubuntu Studio Lucid repositories

2010-10-04 Thread Alessio Igor Bogani
Hi,

2010/10/3 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net:
[...]
  2.6.31-11-rt ends in tty1
  2.6.31-10-rt ends also in tty1, for this kernel I logged in and run

 Did you try the proprietary nvidia driver?

Please remember that every driver which use DKMS infrastructure (like
nvidia and fglrx) require mandatory installation of headers packages
of all installed kernels.

Ciao,
Alessio

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Re: Real-time kernels from the Ubuntu Studio Lucid repositories

2010-10-04 Thread Brian David
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Alessio Igor Bogani abog...@ubuntu.comwrote:

 Hi,

 2010/10/3 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net:
 [...]
   2.6.31-11-rt ends in tty1
   2.6.31-10-rt ends also in tty1, for this kernel I logged in and run
 
  Did you try the proprietary nvidia driver?

 Please remember that every driver which use DKMS infrastructure (like
 nvidia and fglrx) require mandatory installation of headers packages
 of all installed kernels.

 Ciao,
 Alessio


I ran into a problem with this the other day.  Some sort of re-installation
of fglrx had to take place on my computer, but the package would not build
under the -realtime kernel.  As a result, the package didn't builld under
any of my kernels, and I lost my video driver.  I had to entirely uninstall
the -realtime kernel, including all headers, before I could re-install fglrx
to the -generic kernel.
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Re: Real-time kernels from the Ubuntu Studio Lucid repositories

2010-10-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 18:04 +0200, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
 On 10/02/2010 05:13 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  2.6.31-11-rt ends in tty1
  2.6.31-10-rt ends also in tty1, for this kernel I logged in and run
 
 Did you try the proprietary nvidia driver?
 
 Best,
 
 Jeremy

IIRC the proprietary driver wasn't ok. Anyway, I'll test it.

To be continued later this day.

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Re: Real-time kernels from the Ubuntu Studio Lucid repositories

2010-10-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 09:40 -0400, Mike Holstein wrote:
 interesting ralf... i wonder if thats just too new to work with
 hardy/64studio... from what i remember, 64studio has an RT kernel
 already... good luck getting an answer to this question, but i would
 wonder what in the 64studio repos would or would not work with the
 modern kernels

No, Suse and 64 Studio are ok, but I can't boot a real-time kernel for
Ubuntu Studio Lucid.

 just to be clear ralf, you are having these boot issues with 64studio?
 you could try adding https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa to
 64studio i suppose, but when you look there, you can see there is an
 apt line for lucid and maverick... theres probably a good reason why
 there is not one for hardy...

Again, a misunderstanding, 64 Studio 3.0 = Hardy and 3.3 = Karmic are ok
on my machine (Suse too), but Ubuntu Studio fails.

Cheers!

Ralf
 
 
 On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Ralf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net
 wrote:
 Hi :)
 
 another trial to boot a kernel-rt on my machine.
 
 spinymo...@ubuntu:/boot$ ls vmlinuz*
 vmlinuz-2.6.31-10-rt
 vmlinuz-2.6.31-11-rt
 vmlinuz-2.6.32-23-preempt
 vmlinuz-2.6.32-24-preempt
 vmlinuz-2.6.32-25-preempt
 vmlinuz-2.6.33-23-realtime
 vmlinuz-2.6.33-29-realtime
 vmlinuz-2.6.33.5-rt23
 spinymo...@ubuntu:/boot$ ls initrd*
 initrd.img-2.6.31-10-rt
 initrd.img-2.6.31-11-rt
 initrd.img-2.6.32-23-preempt
 initrd.img-2.6.32-24-preempt
 initrd.img-2.6.32-25-preempt
 initrd.img-2.6.33-23-realtime
 initrd.img-2.6.33-29-realtime
 
 The kernel without initrd is a self build kernel-rt, build the
 same way
 I build DEB packages for kernel-rt for 64 Studio based on
 Hardy. I don't
 know why I didn't got the initrd for Ubuntu Studio Lucid.
 
 I can boot all the preempt kernels. When I try to boot
 2.6.31-10-rt I
 get the message 'No such device' on startup. The entry for
 grub.cfg is
 ok [1].
 
 It's the same for 2.6.31-11-rt.
 
 When I try to boot 2.6.23-realtime I get the message
 '[...] ACPI: Expecting a [Reference] package element, found
 type 0'
 only, followed by tty1.
 For 2.6.33-29-realtime I get the message
 '[...] ACPI: Expecting a [Reference] package element, found
 type 0
 [...] ata1: softreset failed (device not ready)
 [...] ata2: softreset failed (device not ready)
 [...] ata3: softreset failed (device not ready)',
 followed by tty1.
 
 I've got 1 SATA DVD drive and 2 SATA hard disk drives. Could
 it be an
 issue regarding to a PATA module, but a SATA module?
 
 The self-build kernel ends in a kernel panic.
 ASAP I'll build another kernel-rt myself and post all steps I
 do.
 
 Cheers!
 
 Ralf
 
 
 [1]
 I've got the influenza, so I might had a blackout and missed
 something,
 because of this I attached my grub.cfg, a manually edited one:
 
 spinymo...@ubuntu:~$ cat /usr/sbin/update-grub
 #!/bin/sh -e
 exec grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg_$(date +%b-%d-%Y_%
 H-%M-%S)
 $@
 spinymo...@ubuntu:~$ ls /boot/grub/grub.cfg*
 /boot/grub/grub.cfg  /boot/grub/grub.cfg_Oct-02-2010_12-22-37
 
 I copied the entries for all Ubuntu Studio real-time kernels
 and
 2.6.32-25-preempt from the latest auto-generated
 grub.cfg_Oct-02-2010_12-22-37.
 
 FWIW all kernel-rt for 64 Studio and Suse are self-build, the
 kernel-multimedia are also kernel-rt, but from the 64 Studio
 repositories. I can boot all those kernels, but I'm also
 unable to boot
 kernel-rt from the Suse repositories and the self-build Suse
 needs a
 Ctrl+Alt+Double-Backspace after startup, before it's ok.
 
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Re: Real-time kernels from the Ubuntu Studio Lucid repositories

2010-10-02 Thread Mike Holstein
that is totally interesting... i have about 4 machines that boot the -rt
kernel, and the -realtime kernel without issue... also, a 64bit install with
the same results... i cant help much with the self builds, but go ahead and
spit out some more logs here, and lets try and figure out why your not able
to boot...

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote:

 On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 09:40 -0400, Mike Holstein wrote:
  interesting ralf... i wonder if thats just too new to work with
  hardy/64studio... from what i remember, 64studio has an RT kernel
  already... good luck getting an answer to this question, but i would
  wonder what in the 64studio repos would or would not work with the
  modern kernels

 No, Suse and 64 Studio are ok, but I can't boot a real-time kernel for
 Ubuntu Studio Lucid.

  just to be clear ralf, you are having these boot issues with 64studio?
  you could try adding https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa to
  64studio i suppose, but when you look there, you can see there is an
  apt line for lucid and maverick... theres probably a good reason why
  there is not one for hardy...

 Again, a misunderstanding, 64 Studio 3.0 = Hardy and 3.3 = Karmic are ok
 on my machine (Suse too), but Ubuntu Studio fails.

 Cheers!

 Ralf

 
  On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Ralf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net
  wrote:
  Hi :)
 
  another trial to boot a kernel-rt on my machine.
 
  spinymo...@ubuntu:/boot$ ls vmlinuz*
  vmlinuz-2.6.31-10-rt
  vmlinuz-2.6.31-11-rt
  vmlinuz-2.6.32-23-preempt
  vmlinuz-2.6.32-24-preempt
  vmlinuz-2.6.32-25-preempt
  vmlinuz-2.6.33-23-realtime
  vmlinuz-2.6.33-29-realtime
  vmlinuz-2.6.33.5-rt23
  spinymo...@ubuntu:/boot$ ls initrd*
  initrd.img-2.6.31-10-rt
  initrd.img-2.6.31-11-rt
  initrd.img-2.6.32-23-preempt
  initrd.img-2.6.32-24-preempt
  initrd.img-2.6.32-25-preempt
  initrd.img-2.6.33-23-realtime
  initrd.img-2.6.33-29-realtime
 
  The kernel without initrd is a self build kernel-rt, build the
  same way
  I build DEB packages for kernel-rt for 64 Studio based on
  Hardy. I don't
  know why I didn't got the initrd for Ubuntu Studio Lucid.
 
  I can boot all the preempt kernels. When I try to boot
  2.6.31-10-rt I
  get the message 'No such device' on startup. The entry for
  grub.cfg is
  ok [1].
 
  It's the same for 2.6.31-11-rt.
 
  When I try to boot 2.6.23-realtime I get the message
  '[...] ACPI: Expecting a [Reference] package element, found
  type 0'
  only, followed by tty1.
  For 2.6.33-29-realtime I get the message
  '[...] ACPI: Expecting a [Reference] package element, found
  type 0
  [...] ata1: softreset failed (device not ready)
  [...] ata2: softreset failed (device not ready)
  [...] ata3: softreset failed (device not ready)',
  followed by tty1.
 
  I've got 1 SATA DVD drive and 2 SATA hard disk drives. Could
  it be an
  issue regarding to a PATA module, but a SATA module?
 
  The self-build kernel ends in a kernel panic.
  ASAP I'll build another kernel-rt myself and post all steps I
  do.
 
  Cheers!
 
  Ralf
 
 
  [1]
  I've got the influenza, so I might had a blackout and missed
  something,
  because of this I attached my grub.cfg, a manually edited one:
 
  spinymo...@ubuntu:~$ cat /usr/sbin/update-grub
  #!/bin/sh -e
  exec grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg_$(date +%b-%d-%Y_%
  H-%M-%S)
  $@
  spinymo...@ubuntu:~$ ls /boot/grub/grub.cfg*
  /boot/grub/grub.cfg  /boot/grub/grub.cfg_Oct-02-2010_12-22-37
 
  I copied the entries for all Ubuntu Studio real-time kernels
  and
  2.6.32-25-preempt from the latest auto-generated
  grub.cfg_Oct-02-2010_12-22-37.
 
  FWIW all kernel-rt for 64 Studio and Suse are self-build, the
  kernel-multimedia are also kernel-rt, but from the 64 Studio
  repositories. I can boot all those kernels, but I'm also
  unable to boot
  kernel-rt from the Suse repositories and the self-build Suse
  needs a
  Ctrl+Alt+Double-Backspace after startup, before it's ok.
 
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Re: Real-time kernels from the Ubuntu Studio Lucid repositories

2010-10-02 Thread Jeremy Jongepier
On 10/02/2010 03:06 PM, Ralf wrote:
 When I try to boot 2.6.31-10-rt I
 get the message 'No such device' on startup. The entry for grub.cfg is
 ok [1].

 It's the same for 2.6.31-11-rt.

But does it continue booting? Regarding the 'No such device' warning: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-rt/+bug/599396

Best,

Jeremy

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Re: Real-time kernels from the Ubuntu Studio Lucid repositories

2010-10-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 16:10 +0200, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
 On 10/02/2010 03:06 PM, Ralf wrote:
  When I try to boot 2.6.31-10-rt I
  get the message 'No such device' on startup. The entry for grub.cfg is
  ok [1].
 
  It's the same for 2.6.31-11-rt.
 
 But does it continue booting? Regarding the 'No such device' warning: 
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-rt/+bug/599396
 
 Best,
 
 Jeremy

No, as I've posted before, after the message it ends in tty1, asking me
to log in.

On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 09:57 -0400, Mike Holstein wrote:
 that is totally interesting... i have about 4 machines that boot the
 -rt kernel, and the -realtime kernel without issue... also, a 64bit
 install with the same results... i cant help much with the self
 builds, but go ahead and spit out some more logs here, and lets try
 and figure out why your not able to boot...

What logs from /var/log or anywhere else might give useful information?
Any hints are welcome! I'll post those logs.

- Ralf


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Re: Real-time kernels from the Ubuntu Studio Lucid repositories

2010-10-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 16:18 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 16:10 +0200, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
  On 10/02/2010 03:06 PM, Ralf wrote:
   When I try to boot 2.6.31-10-rt I
   get the message 'No such device' on startup. The entry for grub.cfg is
   ok [1].
  
   It's the same for 2.6.31-11-rt.
  
  But does it continue booting? Regarding the 'No such device' warning: 
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-rt/+bug/599396
  
  Best,
  
  Jeremy
 
 No, as I've posted before, after the message it ends in tty1, asking me
 to log in.

No, sorry, I'll try again and write to the list later today.

 
 On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 09:57 -0400, Mike Holstein wrote:
  that is totally interesting... i have about 4 machines that boot the
  -rt kernel, and the -realtime kernel without issue... also, a 64bit
  install with the same results... i cant help much with the self
  builds, but go ahead and spit out some more logs here, and lets try
  and figure out why your not able to boot...
 
 What logs from /var/log or anywhere else might give useful information?
 Any hints are welcome! I'll post those logs.
 
 - Ralf



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Re: Real-time kernels from the Ubuntu Studio Lucid repositories

2010-10-02 Thread Jeremy Jongepier
On 10/02/2010 04:18 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 No, as I've posted before, after the message it ends in tty1, asking me
 to log in.

So it does continu booting, except that it cannot start X. What kind of 
GPU do you have?

Best,

Jeremy

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Re: Real-time kernels from the Ubuntu Studio Lucid repositories

2010-10-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 16:23 +0200, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
 On 10/02/2010 04:18 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  No, as I've posted before, after the message it ends in tty1, asking me
  to log in.
 
 So it does continu booting, except that it cannot start X. What kind of 
 GPU do you have?
 
 Best,
 
 Jeremy

The graphics is a NVidia GeForce 7200 GS, resp. for the drivers it's
equal to a GeForce 7300 SE. It's mounted to a PCI express slot,
alternatively I do have a disabled integrated ATI Radeon X1250-based
graphics, but I don't wish to use it.

I'll reboot later, but I'm short in time now.

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Re: Real-time kernels from the Ubuntu Studio Lucid repositories

2010-10-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 16:23 +0200, Jeremy Jongepier wrote:
 On 10/02/2010 04:18 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  No, as I've posted before, after the message it ends in tty1, asking me
  to log in.
 
 So it does continu booting, except that it cannot start X. What kind of 
 GPU do you have?
 
 Best,
 
 Jeremy

2.6.31-11-rt ends in tty1
2.6.31-10-rt ends also in tty1, for this kernel I logged in and run

startx
gdm start
sudo startx
sudo gdm start

I just had a brief look at Xorg.0.log. Note that there isn't a long boot
process.


X.Org X Server 1.7.6
Release Date: 2010-03-17
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.24-27-server x86_64 Ubuntu
Current Operating System: Linux ubuntu 2.6.31-10-rt #153-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT RT Tue Jan 12 11:01:03 UTC 2010 x86_64
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-10-rt root=UUID=54b5bb8c-356a-4268-8592-e76aac7941a8 ro quiet splash
Build Date: 21 July 2010  01:03:39PM
xorg-server 2:1.7.6-2ubuntu7.3 (For technical support please see http://www.ubuntu.com/support) 
Current version of pixman: 0.16.4
	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Sat Oct  2 17:02:36 2010
(==) Using config directory: /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d
(==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
(==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
(**) |--Screen Default Screen Section (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor default monitor
(==) No monitor specified for screen Default Screen Section.
	Using a default monitor configuration.
(==) Automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic does not exist.
	Entry deleted from font path.
(==) FontPath set to:
	/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,
	/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,
	/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,
	/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,
	/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,
	/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,
	/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType,
	built-ins
(==) ModulePath set to /usr/lib/xorg/extra-modules,/usr/lib/xorg/modules
(II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.
	If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices.
(II) Loader magic: 0x7ca300
(II) Module ABI versions:
	X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
	X.Org Video Driver: 6.0
	X.Org XInput driver : 7.0
	X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
(--) using VT number 8

(--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:01d3:10b0:0401 nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS] rev 161, Mem @ 0xfa00/16777216, 0xd000/268435456, 0xfb00/16777216, BIOS @ 0x/131072
(II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket)
(II) LoadModule: extmod
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor=X.Org Foundation
	compiled for 1.7.6, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: X.Org Server Extension
	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: dbe
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor=X.Org Foundation
	compiled for 1.7.6, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: X.Org Server Extension
	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: glx
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor=X.Org Foundation
	compiled for 1.7.6, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(==) AIGLX enabled
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: record
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so
(II) Module record: vendor=X.Org Foundation
	compiled for 1.7.6, module version = 1.13.0
	Module class: X.Org Server Extension
	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension RECORD
(II) LoadModule: dri
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so
(II) Module dri: vendor=X.Org Foundation
	compiled for 1.7.6, module version = 1.0.0
	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) LoadModule: dri2
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so
(II) Module dri2: vendor=X.Org Foundation
	compiled for 1.7.6, module version = 1.1.0
	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DRI2
(==) Matched nouveau as autoconfigured driver 0
(==) Matched nv as autoconfigured driver 1
(==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 2
(==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 3
(==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
(II) LoadModule: nouveau
(II) Loading