Re: Update problem..
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:15:55 +0100, Mike Holstein wrote: I think you'd need to poke around a bit more to see what the issue is/was. It can be challenging chasing those things down. For me, I just don't upgrade my production machine often. I usually have a copy running in virtualbox, and either on another test machine or hard drive. I test *all* upgrades of the kernel, or alsa, or ffado... mission critical components that I can't risk breaking. I usually don't even have my production machine online. I completely agree with you Mike. I update my Ubuntu Studio, but I always keep a backup of a stable Ubuntu Studio. IOW I don't sync backups. If an Ubuntu Studio did fit to my needs I'll keep exactly that copy forever. I make backups from time to time and replace them by newer backups, but I don't touch the backup of the stable version. I'm using Quantal, but I even have a backup of a stable Maverick and a working install of Ubuntu Studio Precise. FWIW I recommend people to install Ubuntu Studio Precise, btw. it's the LTS, since I experienced to many issues with Quantal and on Xubuntu mailing list I read that several people have issues too. If I use an install very often and another very seldom, I only update the install I'm using often. I've got issues with Quantal, but I use it most of the times, so I update it, but I don't update Precise at the moment. Testing an audio production environment in a virtual machine IMO isn't a good idea. Many people and I'm one of them, don't have the perfect mobo, so all the tweaks that have impact to the install, can't be tested with virtual hardware. 2 Cents, Ralf -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Update problem..
Thanks Mike I think I will follow your lead and keep one as production and one as test... BTW.. are you related to the Holstein brothers, Fred and Ed, of folk music fame,,, On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: > > On Jan 20, 2013 1:29 PM, "Joseph Ronne" wrote: > > > > Had been enjoying Ubuntu Studio 12.04 amd64 for a few months now and > when an update notification came along I would simply run it, never with > any problem. Yesterday a new one was indicated (mostly lowlatency and java > modules) so i pushed the install button. Hours later it was still running.. > A look at the system showed period of 100% and 10% use of the processors > switching between one and the other periodically. A look at the two drives > on the system indicated they were both and the auxilery (55gb) gad been > unmounted. At that point (six hours in) I manually rebooted. The system > came to a halt beginning with a 'Broken pipe' message followed by a few > test messages ending in ok after which a hang. In terminal very little > could be done.. both drives showed up chock full... It appears the pipe > broke during the lowlatency install, or towards its end. It appears the > pipe in question involves writing, perhaps redundantly to a drive (these > are sata)... > > Wondering if any one else has experienced this.?. > > Created a Live USB of 12.10 amd64 (wanted to look at it anyway) and > booted with it. Disk info showed redundent copies of both drives both 100% > full. Removed the boot drive and then installed/updated 12.10 to the > auxiliary drive. All is well. Removed the Aux, hooked up the old boot drive > and ran Live from the USB. Recovered some files and then told it to install > 12.10 keeping what it could of 12.04. The install has been running for a > few hours now.. Questions > > Is it possible to end the hung system from the terminal ? > > I will wait another hour to see if an answer comes.. > > barring that i will manually halt and do a 'wipe' install from the USB.. > > > > Thanks for any suggestions you may have > > I think you'd need to poke around a bit more to see what the issue is/was. > It can be challenging chasing those things down. For me, I just don't > upgrade my production machine often. I usually have a copy running in > virtualbox, and either on another test machine or hard drive. I test *all* > upgrades of the kernel, or alsa, or ffado... mission critical components > that I can't risk breaking. I usually don't even have my production machine > online. > > > > > -- > > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > > > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > > -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Update problem..
On Jan 20, 2013 1:29 PM, "Joseph Ronne" wrote: > > Had been enjoying Ubuntu Studio 12.04 amd64 for a few months now and when an update notification came along I would simply run it, never with any problem. Yesterday a new one was indicated (mostly lowlatency and java modules) so i pushed the install button. Hours later it was still running.. A look at the system showed period of 100% and 10% use of the processors switching between one and the other periodically. A look at the two drives on the system indicated they were both and the auxilery (55gb) gad been unmounted. At that point (six hours in) I manually rebooted. The system came to a halt beginning with a 'Broken pipe' message followed by a few test messages ending in ok after which a hang. In terminal very little could be done.. both drives showed up chock full... It appears the pipe broke during the lowlatency install, or towards its end. It appears the pipe in question involves writing, perhaps redundantly to a drive (these are sata)... > Wondering if any one else has experienced this.?. > Created a Live USB of 12.10 amd64 (wanted to look at it anyway) and booted with it. Disk info showed redundent copies of both drives both 100% full. Removed the boot drive and then installed/updated 12.10 to the auxiliary drive. All is well. Removed the Aux, hooked up the old boot drive and ran Live from the USB. Recovered some files and then told it to install 12.10 keeping what it could of 12.04. The install has been running for a few hours now.. Questions > Is it possible to end the hung system from the terminal ? > I will wait another hour to see if an answer comes.. > barring that i will manually halt and do a 'wipe' install from the USB.. > > Thanks for any suggestions you may have I think you'd need to poke around a bit more to see what the issue is/was. It can be challenging chasing those things down. For me, I just don't upgrade my production machine often. I usually have a copy running in virtualbox, and either on another test machine or hard drive. I test *all* upgrades of the kernel, or alsa, or ffado... mission critical components that I can't risk breaking. I usually don't even have my production machine online. > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Update problem..
That appears to have resolved the issue.. will be useing 12.10 for nor.. will keep auxilery drive as a backup tho... On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Joseph Ronne wrote: > Had been enjoying Ubuntu Studio 12.04 amd64 for a few months now and when > an update notification came along I would simply run it, never with any > problem. Yesterday a new one was indicated (mostly lowlatency and java > modules) so i pushed the install button. Hours later it was still running.. > A look at the system showed period of 100% and 10% use of the processors > switching between one and the other periodically. A look at the two drives > on the system indicated they were both and the auxilery (55gb) gad been > unmounted. At that point (six hours in) I manually rebooted. The system > came to a halt beginning with a 'Broken pipe' message followed by a few > test messages ending in ok after which a hang. In terminal very little > could be done.. both drives showed up chock full... It appears the pipe > broke during the lowlatency install, or towards its end. It appears the > pipe in question involves writing, perhaps redundantly to a drive (these > are sata)... > Wondering if any one else has experienced this.?. > Created a Live USB of 12.10 amd64 (wanted to look at it anyway) and booted > with it. Disk info showed redundent copies of both drives both 100% full. > Removed the boot drive and then installed/updated 12.10 to the auxiliary > drive. All is well. Removed the Aux, hooked up the old boot drive and ran > Live from the USB. Recovered some files and then told it to install 12.10 > keeping what it could of 12.04. The install has been running for a few > hours now.. Questions > Is it possible to end the hung system from the terminal ? > I will wait another hour to see if an answer comes.. > barring that i will manually halt and do a 'wipe' install from the USB.. > > Thanks for any suggestions you may have > -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Update problem..
Had been enjoying Ubuntu Studio 12.04 amd64 for a few months now and when an update notification came along I would simply run it, never with any problem. Yesterday a new one was indicated (mostly lowlatency and java modules) so i pushed the install button. Hours later it was still running.. A look at the system showed period of 100% and 10% use of the processors switching between one and the other periodically. A look at the two drives on the system indicated they were both and the auxilery (55gb) gad been unmounted. At that point (six hours in) I manually rebooted. The system came to a halt beginning with a 'Broken pipe' message followed by a few test messages ending in ok after which a hang. In terminal very little could be done.. both drives showed up chock full... It appears the pipe broke during the lowlatency install, or towards its end. It appears the pipe in question involves writing, perhaps redundantly to a drive (these are sata)... Wondering if any one else has experienced this.?. Created a Live USB of 12.10 amd64 (wanted to look at it anyway) and booted with it. Disk info showed redundent copies of both drives both 100% full. Removed the boot drive and then installed/updated 12.10 to the auxiliary drive. All is well. Removed the Aux, hooked up the old boot drive and ran Live from the USB. Recovered some files and then told it to install 12.10 keeping what it could of 12.04. The install has been running for a few hours now.. Questions Is it possible to end the hung system from the terminal ? I will wait another hour to see if an answer comes.. barring that i will manually halt and do a 'wipe' install from the USB.. Thanks for any suggestions you may have -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
