Re: Wineasio, Guitar Rig and Jack issue on Maverik, AMD 64

2010-12-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf 
On Tue, 2010-12-28 at 16:37 +0100, Hartmut Noack wrote:
> Guitarix has made profound progress in the last 6 months.

Hi Hartmut :)

I'm not on track for guitarix :D. Current version at sourceforge is:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/guitarix/files/guitarix/guitarix-0.11.1.tar.bz2/download

Btw. I'm not fine with this jconvolver GUI, but also not on track for
the current version at sourceforge:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/jcgui/files/jcgui/jcgui-0.7.tar.bz2/download

Until now I'm using jconvolver without GUI :( or I replace it by the
Linux DSP reverb or by 19" stand alone reverbs etc. ;).

And rakarrack is outdated too:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/rakarrack/files/rakarrack/rakarrack-0.6.1/rakarrack-0.6.1.tar.bz2/download

This are the versions on my computer:

> ls /media/studio3.0/usr/src
2010-01-02 13:35 guitarix-0.05.7-1
2010-05-14 17:45 guitarix-0.08.0
# zypper info guitarix
Version: 0.08.0-0.pm.1.2
Installed: Yes
Status: up-to-date
> ls /media/studio3.3/usr/src
2010-06-03 10:17 guitarix
> cat /media/studio3.3/usr/src/guitarix/changelog
guitarix (0.09.0SVN) unstable

> ls /media/studio3.0/usr/src
2009-12-23 17:26 jcgui-0.4
2010-01-01 12:54 jcgui-0.6

> ls /media/studio3.3/usr/src -hAl | grep rakarrack
2010-06-09 15:37 rakarrack-0.4.2
# zypper info rakarrack
Version: 0.4.2-0.pm.1.1
Installed: Yes
Status: up-to-date


Maybe I'll test it within the next days, perhaps from the repositories:

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/guitarix 'Lucid (0.11.1-0ubuntu0
+ppa1)'


While Rakarrack from the repositories is outdated:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/rakarrack 
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+package/rakarrack 'still 0.3.x'

Cheers!

Ralf

PS: At the moment it's still puzzling what's wrong with QjackCtl for my
Ubuntu Studio,
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/2010-December/007114.html 
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Re: Wineasio, Guitar Rig and Jack issue on Maverik, AMD 64

2010-12-28 Thread Hartmut Noack 
Am 25.12.2010 15:01, schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
> On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 12:34 +0100, Ronan Jouchet wrote:
>> On 10-12-25 12:58 AM, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>> Am 22.12.2010 19:55, schrieb Scott Lavender:
 On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:19 AM, NG   wrote:

>...

 You might also try Guitarix instead of Rakarrack.

 http://guitarix.sourceforge.net/
>
> Guitarix can't replace Rakarrack and to be fair,

It depends on what do you want. If you want a software, that emulates a 
(very good)standard-amp with a set of standard-effects plus a convolver 
guitarix would be (and is actually) my first choice.
If you need more FX, Rakarrack could be better. But to be perfectly 
honest: in the end it is a matter of personal taste. Guitarix can do 
perfectly the same as Rakarrack.

> Rakarrack can't replace
> Guitarix, OTOH simply using Fon's Jconvolver + some distortion might be
> near to be able to replace Guitarix, but it still won't replace
> Rakarrack.
> Rakarrack can be used for professional sounding Hardrock guitars in the
> style of the 80s, IMO it's nearly possible to reproduce the genius sound
> of LPs like "I against I" from the Bad Brains, just by playing the
> guitar to the mixing console, without an guitar amp, when using
> Rakarrack. Well, 70s and ex 80s style IMO can't be emulated good by
> software effects.

Guitarix has made profound progress in the last 6 months. A recent 
version can produce any sound one would expect from a real amp from the 
pro-league. If you apply impulse-responses from a sound, you can have 
virtually any sound with it.
But emulation of existing sounds is nice, if you like such tricks. Much 
more important for me is, that Guitarix takes the signal from my guitars 
very very similar as a real amp does. Given you use a 
middleclass-interface like the instrument-in of a MAudio mobile pre or a 
simple mixer and a envy24-card you can actually sweep from slightely 
overdrive clean-sounds to crushing distortion by using the volume-wheel 
on the guitar. All the finery in playing guitar-strings from sweet low 
caressing to most brutal strumming shred is preserved. This is a feature 
I miss in most other digital modeling solutions.
It shall not sound "good" it shall sound like me ;-)

best regs

HZN

>
> 2 cents,
> Ralf
>
>>>
>>> I second that absolutely 101%. If you build it from source you can get
>>> the variant gx_head as well that presents the software indeed as real amp.
>>
>> Hi NG,
>>
>> Back to the subject, this howto (and its comments) could help you to get
>> wineasio up:
>> http://www.davehayes.org/2007/04/27/howto-reaper-on-ubuntu-linux-with-wineasio/
>>
>> Meeerry Christmas :)
>>
>> Ronan
>
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Re: Wineasio, Guitar Rig and Jack issue on Maverik, AMD 64

2010-12-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf 
On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 12:34 +0100, Ronan Jouchet wrote:
> On 10-12-25 12:58 AM, Hartmut Noack wrote:
> > Am 22.12.2010 19:55, schrieb Scott Lavender:
> >> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:19 AM, NG  wrote:
> >>
> >>>   ...
> >>
> >> You might also try Guitarix instead of Rakarrack.
> >>
> >> http://guitarix.sourceforge.net/

Guitarix can't replace Rakarrack and to be fair, Rakarrack can't replace
Guitarix, OTOH simply using Fon's Jconvolver + some distortion might be
near to be able to replace Guitarix, but it still won't replace
Rakarrack.
Rakarrack can be used for professional sounding Hardrock guitars in the
style of the 80s, IMO it's nearly possible to reproduce the genius sound
of LPs like "I against I" from the Bad Brains, just by playing the
guitar to the mixing console, without an guitar amp, when using
Rakarrack. Well, 70s and ex 80s style IMO can't be emulated good by
software effects.

2 cents,
Ralf

> > 
> > I second that absolutely 101%. If you build it from source you can get 
> > the variant gx_head as well that presents the software indeed as real amp.
> 
> Hi NG,
> 
> Back to the subject, this howto (and its comments) could help you to get
> wineasio up:
> http://www.davehayes.org/2007/04/27/howto-reaper-on-ubuntu-linux-with-wineasio/
> 
> Meeerry Christmas :)
> 
> Ronan


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Re: Wineasio, Guitar Rig and Jack issue on Maverik, AMD 64

2010-12-25 Thread Ronan Jouchet 
On 10-12-25 12:58 AM, Hartmut Noack wrote:
> Am 22.12.2010 19:55, schrieb Scott Lavender:
>> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:19 AM, NG  wrote:
>>
>>>   ...
>>
>> You might also try Guitarix instead of Rakarrack.
>>
>> http://guitarix.sourceforge.net/
> 
> I second that absolutely 101%. If you build it from source you can get 
> the variant gx_head as well that presents the software indeed as real amp.

Hi NG,

Back to the subject, this howto (and its comments) could help you to get
wineasio up:
http://www.davehayes.org/2007/04/27/howto-reaper-on-ubuntu-linux-with-wineasio/

Meeerry Christmas :)

Ronan

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Re: Wineasio, Guitar Rig and Jack issue on Maverik, AMD 64

2010-12-24 Thread Hartmut Noack 
Am 22.12.2010 19:55, schrieb Scott Lavender:
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:19 AM, NG  wrote:
>
>>   Hi Ronan, Thanks for the fast reply!
>>
>> I've tried the native apps you mention. "Calf plugins" have a nice
>> modulation tools that I'll be using, Scooperlooper will come in handy indeed
>> and as for Rakarrack, although it seems promising, lacks of a good amp and
>> overdrive/distortion emulator, and this functionality is critical for the
>> work I intent to do. The ideal thing would be using my real amp and stomp
>> boxes, but I live in a small place and I know I will disturb the
>> neighbours.
>>
>> I would love to be using pure libre/open source software and hope one day
>> Rakarrack becomes a great emulator, but in the mean time, Guitar Rig is the
>> only one that gets close (and works in linux)to the tone of my real set-up.
>> If anybody else know of any other open source emulator I can try please let
>> me know.
>>
>> Anyway, I apologize for not providing further details. Here they are:
>>
>> 0. Kernel:  2.6.35-23-generic
>> 1. Jack starts and run without interruptions (I've being testing it for
>> some days)
>> 2. All native apps I've tried work smoothly (Ardour, Rakarrack, calf
>> plugin, Jack rack, Hydrogen, etc )
>>
>> 3. Never heard of Reaper. Just went to the website and installed the 32 bit
>> version (tried 64 bit version but didn't work). In the "Audio device" window
>> I chose "ASIO" as my Audio device and then "Wine ASIO Driver" in the next
>> drop box. The drop boxes "Enable input" and "Output range" are empty and
>> when pressing the button "ASIO Configuration..." nothing happens.
>>
>> When done, I got an error window: "Error initializing ASIO driver" :(
>>
>> I have downgraded Wine to the default version (1.2) to narrow down the
>> possibilities and still using 
>> wineasio-beta_0.9.0~beta0_64bit.debfound
>>  here:
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/kxstudio/files/DEBs/. Reaper was installed
>> over Wine 1.2.
>>
>> BTW, to installed wineasio, I extracted the DEB file and copy
>> "wineasio.dll" to /lib32/wine/. then I run "regsvr32 wineasio.dll"
>> sucessfully and finally installed Reaper. Did it this way because I read in
>> a forum that the DEB was compiled using Ubuntu lucid not maverik, so this
>> method was suggested.
>>
>> I'll  try to get into the IRC channel.
>>
>> NG
>>
>>
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> You might also try Guitarix instead of Rakarrack.
>
> http://guitarix.sourceforge.net/

I second that absolutely 101%. If you build it from source you can get 
the variant gx_head as well that presents the software indeed as real amp.

best regs... HZN
>
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Re: Wineasio, Guitar Rig and Jack issue on Maverik, AMD 64

2010-12-22 Thread Scott Lavender 
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:19 AM, NG  wrote:

>  Hi Ronan, Thanks for the fast reply!
>
> I've tried the native apps you mention. "Calf plugins" have a nice
> modulation tools that I'll be using, Scooperlooper will come in handy indeed
> and as for Rakarrack, although it seems promising, lacks of a good amp and
> overdrive/distortion emulator, and this functionality is critical for the
> work I intent to do. The ideal thing would be using my real amp and stomp
> boxes, but I live in a small place and I know I will disturb the
> neighbours.
>
> I would love to be using pure libre/open source software and hope one day
> Rakarrack becomes a great emulator, but in the mean time, Guitar Rig is the
> only one that gets close (and works in linux)to the tone of my real set-up.
> If anybody else know of any other open source emulator I can try please let
> me know.
>
> Anyway, I apologize for not providing further details. Here they are:
>
> 0. Kernel:  2.6.35-23-generic
> 1. Jack starts and run without interruptions (I've being testing it for
> some days)
> 2. All native apps I've tried work smoothly (Ardour, Rakarrack, calf
> plugin, Jack rack, Hydrogen, etc )
>
> 3. Never heard of Reaper. Just went to the website and installed the 32 bit
> version (tried 64 bit version but didn't work). In the "Audio device" window
> I chose "ASIO" as my Audio device and then "Wine ASIO Driver" in the next
> drop box. The drop boxes "Enable input" and "Output range" are empty and
> when pressing the button "ASIO Configuration..." nothing happens.
>
> When done, I got an error window: "Error initializing ASIO driver" :(
>
> I have downgraded Wine to the default version (1.2) to narrow down the
> possibilities and still using 
> wineasio-beta_0.9.0~beta0_64bit.debfound
>  here:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/kxstudio/files/DEBs/. Reaper was installed
> over Wine 1.2.
>
> BTW, to installed wineasio, I extracted the DEB file and copy
> "wineasio.dll" to /lib32/wine/. then I run "regsvr32 wineasio.dll"
> sucessfully and finally installed Reaper. Did it this way because I read in
> a forum that the DEB was compiled using Ubuntu lucid not maverik, so this
> method was suggested.
>
> I'll  try to get into the IRC channel.
>
> NG
>
>
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You might also try Guitarix instead of Rakarrack.

http://guitarix.sourceforge.net/
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Re: Wineasio, Guitar Rig and Jack issue on Maverik, AMD 64

2010-12-22 Thread NG 
Hi Ronan, Thanks for the fast reply!

I've tried the native apps you mention. "Calf plugins" have a nice
modulation tools that I'll be using, Scooperlooper will come in handy
indeed and as for Rakarrack, although it seems promising, lacks of a
good amp and overdrive/distortion emulator, and this functionality is
critical for the work I intent to do. The ideal thing would be using my
real amp and stomp boxes, but I live in a small place and I know I will
disturb the neighbours.  

I would love to be using pure libre/open source software and hope one
day Rakarrack becomes a great emulator, but in the mean time, Guitar Rig
is the only one that gets close (and works in linux)to the tone of my
real set-up. If anybody else know of any other open source emulator I
can try please let me know.

Anyway, I apologize for not providing further details. Here they are:

0. Kernel:  2.6.35-23-generic
1. Jack starts and run without interruptions (I've being testing it for
some days)
2. All native apps I've tried work smoothly (Ardour, Rakarrack, calf
plugin, Jack rack, Hydrogen, etc )

3. Never heard of Reaper. Just went to the website and installed the 32
bit version (tried 64 bit version but didn't work). In the "Audio
device" window I chose "ASIO" as my Audio device and then "Wine ASIO
Driver" in the next drop box. The drop boxes "Enable input" and "Output
range" are empty and when pressing the button "ASIO Configuration..."
nothing happens. 

When done, I got an error window: "Error initializing ASIO driver" :(

I have downgraded Wine to the default version (1.2) to narrow down the
possibilities and still using wineasio-beta_0.9.0~beta0_64bit.deb found
here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kxstudio/files/DEBs/. Reaper was
installed over Wine 1.2.

BTW, to installed wineasio, I extracted the DEB file and copy
"wineasio.dll" to /lib32/wine/. then I run "regsvr32 wineasio.dll"
sucessfully and finally installed Reaper. Did it this way because I read
in a forum that the DEB was compiled using Ubuntu lucid not maverik, so
this method was suggested.

I'll  try to get into the IRC channel.

NG


On 10-12-22 02:34 PM, NG wrote:
> Hey guys!
> 
> ...
> 
> Any idea, suggestion or advice would be very much appreciated :)
> Thanks!
> NG

Hi NG!

You're asking for help on a complicated steam machine and we don't know
if each piece works independently, let alone the assembly. To help you
we need more background on your setup:
  0. Which kernel are you using? (use "uname -r")
  1. Does JACK start successfully? (can it run without interruption?)
  2. Do native JACK apps work? (can you work on Ardour, Rakarrack, etc.)
  3. *Does REAPER work?* (it should, REAPER supports WINE admirably). To
me, having confirmation of this last point would be very meaningful
since it would mean we are sure you have a sane wineasio setup. We'll
see about GR afterwards.

Finally, have you considered using native apps? I don't know your use
case but as a guitarist you should at least have a look at {Rakarrack,
Sooperlooper, JACK Timemachine, Calf plugins (and many others)}. WINE
apps are never a good idea; even if you get GR running tomorrow, you
_will_ end up unhappy (to be polite) someday. Which killer feature are
you missing?

Tell us about your progress; if you need direct help, feel free to ask
#ubuntustudio on Freenode.

Cheers,
Ronan Jouchet



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Re: Wineasio, Guitar Rig and Jack issue on Maverik, AMD 64

2010-12-22 Thread Ronan Jouchet 
On 10-12-22 02:34 PM, NG wrote:
> Hey guys!
> 
> ...
> 
> Any idea, suggestion or advice would be very much appreciated :)
> Thanks!
> NG

Hi NG!

You're asking for help on a complicated steam machine and we don't know
if each piece works independently, let alone the assembly. To help you
we need more background on your setup:
  0. Which kernel are you using? (use "uname -r")
  1. Does JACK start successfully? (can it run without interruption?)
  2. Do native JACK apps work? (can you work on Ardour, Rakarrack, etc.)
  3. *Does REAPER work?* (it should, REAPER supports WINE admirably). To
me, having confirmation of this last point would be very meaningful
since it would mean we are sure you have a sane wineasio setup. We'll
see about GR afterwards.

Finally, have you considered using native apps? I don't know your use
case but as a guitarist you should at least have a look at {Rakarrack,
Sooperlooper, JACK Timemachine, Calf plugins (and many others)}. WINE
apps are never a good idea; even if you get GR running tomorrow, you
_will_ end up unhappy (to be polite) someday. Which killer feature are
you missing?

Tell us about your progress; if you need direct help, feel free to ask
#ubuntustudio on Freenode.

Cheers,
Ronan Jouchet

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Wineasio, Guitar Rig and Jack issue on Maverik, AMD 64

2010-12-22 Thread NG 
Hey guys!

I've being using ubuntu for some years now and I've just switch to
Ubuntu Studio as I'm a guitarist building a home recording studio. After
trying a Guitar Rig demo I've considered buying it as it covers all my
needs. I would be using GR, Ardour, Hydrogen and Jack. The only thing is
stopping me is that I'm having an issue with it in Ubuntu Studio Maverik
64 bit.

I have got Guitar Rig 4 running successfully on Ubuntu 10.10 32 bit,
however, in my 64 bit machine (UStudio 10.10) when I select the ASIO
driver in GR, nothing happens (it used to crash with other versions of
wineasio) and Jack can't see it. 

I am using the same audio interface (Edirol UA-25) in both systems and
I've tried different configurations in Jack without luck. What's
different though, is that in Ubuntu 10.10 32 bit, wine gets installed in
"/usr/lib" while in UStudio 64 bit, it goes to "/usr/lib32". I wonder if
this has something to do with the issue.

GR 4 is suppose to work in 64 bit machines (windows vista and 7 only)
but as I never saw an option (neither on the website or during the
installation) to install the 64 bit version, I'm assuming it
auto-detects it.

I'm currently using wineasio 0.9 and wine 1.3 but I've tried wineasio
0.7.5, 0.8.1, and wine 1.2 before. I've got the wineasio debs from here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/kxstudio/files/DEBs/ and wine from the
official PPA.

I've read some threads on getting Guitar Rig working in linux but most
of them are outdated and don't address the issue I'm having.

I really need to get it running on the AMD64 machine as it was bought
for handling this task (music and video production). I've have
considered switching to Ubuntu Studio 32 bit if I don't get this sort it
out, but I don't want to loose computer power by doing it.

Any idea, suggestion or advice would be very much appreciated :)

Thanks!

NG

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