Re: linuxrt package not standard in studio ?

2010-05-11 Thread Gerhard Lang
Indeed, on my amd and intel standard systems there is no urgent need to 
use a rt-kernel. These actual generic and preempt kernels i.e. allow 
rt-activation in jack and there is not much difference in cpu-load 
against rt- or ck-kernels. Using these rt-kernels you get extended 
options to customize and optimize  IRQ-settings an priorities; this may 
be interesting for the bleeding edge of performance tuning. But much 
more important is maximizing cpufrequency (fixed, no ondemand) by cpu 
frequency scaling for minimizing latencies and xruns.

Am 11.05.2010 19:41, schrieb Alessio Igor Bogani:
> Hi Laurent,
>
> 2010/5/11 laurent.bellegarde:
> [...]
>
>> I've done the install with the Ubuntu lucid amd64 standard CD, then
>> modified the sources.list, an update, dist-upgrade and to finish a
>> complete install of all ubuntustudio packages. Everything goes fine, but
>> after a reboot no RT kernel available in grub, and i've discovered that
>> the linuxrt package wasn't install with ubuntustudio-audio...
>>  
> I would suggest to you (and to all others readers in this ml) to
> install and use linux-rt only if it is _really_ required.
>
> You could take a look on -preempt kernel (available only on amd64) or
> -lowlatency kernel (for both i386 and amd64) available on my PPA.
> These aren't fully preemptible kernels but should be enough for almost
> all our users.
>
> Ciao,
> Alessio
>
>

-- 
Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list
Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users


Re: linuxrt package not standard in studio ?

2010-05-11 Thread Gerhard Lang
ubuntu provided obsolete proprietary nvidiadrivers always don't like 
these rt-kernels in the first weeks of a new version until a friendly 
coder has patched/updated them.
On my primary audio orientated installations I never ran into other issues.
plz excuse my meddling ;)

Am 11.05.2010 21:58, schrieb Brian David:
> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Alessio Igor Bogani 
> mailto:abog...@ubuntu.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Laurent,
>
> 2010/5/11 laurent.bellegarde  >:
> [...]
>
> I would suggest to you (and to all others readers in this ml) to
> install and use linux-rt only if it is _really_ required.
>
>
> Are there issues with the RT kernel in Lucid?  And if so, what are they?
>
>
> -- 
> -Brian David

-- 
Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list
Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users


Re: linuxrt package not standard in studio ?

2010-05-11 Thread Brian David
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote:

> Hi Laurent,
>
> 2010/5/11 laurent.bellegarde :
> [...]
>
> I would suggest to you (and to all others readers in this ml) to
> install and use linux-rt only if it is _really_ required.
>
>
Are there issues with the RT kernel in Lucid?  And if so, what are they?


-- 
-Brian David
-- 
Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list
Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users


Re: linuxrt package not standard in studio ?

2010-05-11 Thread Alessio Igor Bogani
Hi Laurent,

2010/5/11 laurent.bellegarde :
[...]
> I've done the install with the Ubuntu lucid amd64 standard CD, then
> modified the sources.list, an update, dist-upgrade and to finish a
> complete install of all ubuntustudio packages. Everything goes fine, but
> after a reboot no RT kernel available in grub, and i've discovered that
> the linuxrt package wasn't install with ubuntustudio-audio...

I would suggest to you (and to all others readers in this ml) to
install and use linux-rt only if it is _really_ required.

You could take a look on -preempt kernel (available only on amd64) or
-lowlatency kernel (for both i386 and amd64) available on my PPA.
These aren't fully preemptible kernels but should be enough for almost
all our users.

Ciao,
Alessio

-- 
Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list
Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users


Re: linuxrt package not standard in studio ?

2010-05-11 Thread lrspares45
On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 18:44 +0200, laurent.bellegarde wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> yesterday i've installed Ubuntu studio amd64 lucid on a laptop in dual 
> boot with Windows(c) XP pro.
> 
> I've done the install with the Ubuntu lucid amd64 standard CD, then 
> modified the sources.list, an update, dist-upgrade and to finish a 
> complete install of all ubuntustudio packages. Everything goes fine, but 
> after a reboot no RT kernel available in grub, and i've discovered that 
> the linuxrt package wasn't install with ubuntustudio-audio...
> 
> is it normal ?
> 
> Bye,
> 
> Laurent
> 

I had to install separately it after studio, so it would seem it is not
included. As I don't actually use it now I can't say if it has been
updated during the two upgrades since.

Cheers
Richard


-- 
Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list
Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users


linuxrt package not standard in studio ?

2010-05-11 Thread laurent.bellegarde
Hi all,

yesterday i've installed Ubuntu studio amd64 lucid on a laptop in dual 
boot with Windows(c) XP pro.

I've done the install with the Ubuntu lucid amd64 standard CD, then 
modified the sources.list, an update, dist-upgrade and to finish a 
complete install of all ubuntustudio packages. Everything goes fine, but 
after a reboot no RT kernel available in grub, and i've discovered that 
the linuxrt package wasn't install with ubuntustudio-audio...

is it normal ?

Bye,

Laurent

-- 
Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list
Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at: 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users