Re: ubuntu studio and ubuntu 7.10

2007-10-26 Thread Darrin Goodman
Matt, I'm glad that it worked out for you.  If you are interested,
here is a great resource (one of many I'm sure) for Linux commands
(this is associated with bash, but most of these commands will also
work with other shells too):
http://www.ss64.com/bash/

Cheers!

- Darrin



On 10/26/07, Matt Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Darrin,
>
> Well, I downloaded the regular Ubuntu Gutsy live CD, installed it clean and
> tested it out - I don't think Compiz Fusion is terribly interesting, so I
> reinstalled from the Ubutu Studio CD (clean install again) and tested with
> just the laptop, then with the 22" widescreen attached.  If I use the
> 'intel' driver, it works great on the laptop screen, but doesn't allow me to
> turn off the internal display when using the external monitor, this is the
> same situation I had in Feisty, so I switched to i810 and put in a shell
> script to set both modes, now the switch is transparent.
>
> Then I started tackling the wifi issue - The clean install works great, it's
> after I connect and apply the current updates that it breaks down, so this
> time while I was online, before applying any updates, I went out and got a
> program called WICD and installed it.  After I applied the updates, I tested
> on reboots, etc and it's working fine.  I was also able to install the
> screens and graphics package, and that works too, although I won't be doing
> much with it at this time, I'm hoping they come up with a new intel driver
> that solves the rest of the video issues with Intel chipsets.
>
> Looks like everything is good right now, thanks for your help, I'm just not
> familiar enough with all the Linux commands to be at the level I was at with
> Windows.  I've printed out a few manuals and I keep them handy when I start
> crashing the system and X won't load.
>
> The good thing I've noticed about Gutsy is that it does seem to run cooler
> on my Dual Core laptop, it used to get pretty hot under Feisty.
>
> Anyway, thanks for your help, I'll save those commands in case I get stuck
> again.
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Darrin Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:04:22 PM
> Subject: Re: ubuntu studio and ubuntu 7.10
>
> Oops, I forgot to include starting up dhcp into the commands.  Got
> ahead of myself.  Here it is again (also, this is assuming that your
> wireless interface is ath0; it could easily be something else, like
> ra0, or eth1. etc to see what your interface is, use iwconfig):
>
> $ sudo su
> $ ifconfig ath0 up
> $ dhclient ath0
> $ iwconfig ath0 essid yourRouterNameHere key routerWepKey
>
> Also, in place of the second and third line, you could instead use:
> $ ifdown ath0 && ifup ath0
> This will bring down your wireless interface, bring it back up, and
> will start dhcp.
>
> If the Network Manager is not cutting it for you, try out Wifi Radar;
> it can be installed with Synaptic.
> http://wifi-radar.systemimager.org/
>
> Good luck!
>
> - Darrin
>
>
>
>
> On 10/24/07, Matt Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Darrin,
> >
> > Thanks for the info, I'll give this a try.  My issue was that I could see
> > the network, but was unable to connect beyond just to the local access
> > point.  I use the internet from wifi hotspots, so typically I connect to a
> > webpage, log in, and then that grants me access to the outside world.
> >
> > I was getting the local login prompt, but after putting in my info, I
> never
> > got the response back.  I've seen the same problem reported on the forums,
> > but I didn't see anyone post a clear fix or workaround.  I did see one
> > person suggest removing network manager and using a different tool - so
> I'm
> > also going to get the details on that and give Gutsy one more try.
> >
> >
> >
> > Darrin Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Some of you have mentioned wifi issues with Gutsy. When I upgraded to
> > 7.10, when I added the Network Manager to my top panel, I noticed that
> > it did not give me any wireless options, which means that I was not
> > able to use the gui in order to connect to a wireless network. Not
> > sure why this was the case since I am assuming that things generally
> > only get better with upgrades, rather than digress. I was able to
> > manually connect to wifi with the following:
> > $ sudo su
> > $ ifconfig ath0 up
> > $ iwconfig ath0 essid yourRouterNameHere key routerWepKey
> >
> > However, now my Networ

Re: ubuntu studio and ubuntu 7.10

2007-10-26 Thread Matt Henry
Hi Darrin,

Well, I downloaded the regular Ubuntu Gutsy live CD, installed it clean and 
tested it out - I don't think Compiz Fusion is terribly interesting, so I 
reinstalled from the Ubutu Studio CD (clean install again) and tested with just 
the laptop, then with the 22" widescreen attached.  If I use the 'intel' 
driver, it works great on the laptop screen, but doesn't allow me to turn off 
the internal display when using the external monitor, this is the same 
situation I had in Feisty, so I switched to i810 and put in a shell script to 
set both modes, now the switch is transparent.

Then I started tackling the wifi issue - The clean install works great, it's 
after I connect and apply the current updates that it breaks down, so this time 
while I was online, before applying any updates, I went out and got a program 
called WICD and installed it.  After I applied the updates, I tested on 
reboots, etc and it's working fine.  I was also able to install the screens and 
graphics package, and that works too, although I won't be doing much with it at 
this time, I'm hoping they come up with a new intel driver that solves the rest 
of the video issues with Intel chipsets.

Looks like everything is good right now, thanks for your help, I'm just not 
familiar enough with all the Linux commands to be at the level I was at with 
Windows.  I've printed out a few manuals and I keep them handy when I start 
crashing the system and X won't load.

The good thing I've noticed about Gutsy is that it does seem to run cooler on 
my Dual Core laptop, it used to get pretty hot under Feisty.

Anyway, thanks for your help, I'll save those commands in case I get stuck 
again.


- Original Message 
From: Darrin Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion 

Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:04:22 PM
Subject: Re: ubuntu studio and ubuntu 7.10

Oops, I forgot to include starting up dhcp into the commands.  Got
ahead of myself.  Here it is again (also, this is assuming that your
wireless interface is ath0; it could easily be something else, like
ra0, or eth1. etc to see what your interface is, use iwconfig):

$ sudo su
$ ifconfig ath0 up
$ dhclient ath0
$ iwconfig ath0 essid yourRouterNameHere key routerWepKey

Also, in place of the second and third line, you could instead use:
$ ifdown ath0 && ifup ath0
This will bring down your wireless interface, bring it back up, and
will start dhcp.

If the Network Manager is not cutting it for you, try out Wifi Radar;
it can be installed with Synaptic.
http://wifi-radar.systemimager.org/

Good luck!

- Darrin




On 10/24/07, Matt Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Darrin,
>
> Thanks for the info, I'll give this a try.  My issue was that I could see
> the network, but was unable to connect beyond just to the local access
> point.  I use the internet from wifi hotspots, so typically I connect to a
> webpage, log in, and then that grants me access to the outside world.
>
> I was getting the local login prompt, but after putting in my info, I never
> got the response back.  I've seen the same problem reported on the forums,
> but I didn't see anyone post a clear fix or workaround.  I did see one
> person suggest removing network manager and using a different tool - so I'm
> also going to get the details on that and give Gutsy one more try.
>
>
>
> Darrin Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Some of you have mentioned wifi issues with Gutsy. When I upgraded to
> 7.10, when I added the Network Manager to my top panel, I noticed that
> it did not give me any wireless options, which means that I was not
> able to use the gui in order to connect to a wireless network. Not
> sure why this was the case since I am assuming that things generally
> only get better with upgrades, rather than digress. I was able to
> manually connect to wifi with the following:
> $ sudo su
> $ ifconfig ath0 up
> $ iwconfig ath0 essid yourRouterNameHere key routerWepKey
>
> However, now my Network Manager seems to be properly displaying my
> wifi networks and allows me to connect/disconnect to/from them as
> needed. The only thing that I changed was that I installed wifiradar,
> although I have not used it yet. Perhaps there was an update that was
> pushed out that solved the Network-Manager issue.
>
> For those of you who stated that you cannot connect to wifi, I wonder
> if you mean that your Network Manager is not working properly, or if
> you cannot manually connect to wifi using the commands that I listed
> above?
>
> - Darrin
>
> On 10/24/07, Pietro Bergamo wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for the hints.
> > Best regards,
> > Pietro
> >
> > Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail, o único sem limite de espaço para
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Re: ubuntu studio and ubuntu 7.10

2007-10-26 Thread Jack Bowling
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:23:23AM -0700, Matt Henry wrote:
> That's a big decision - If I were you, I would check on the support forums - 
> many people have had network problems with 7.10 (including me) which caused 
> them not to be able to connect with wifi.  Some people experience random 
> lockups, and in the gutsy upgrade experience poll, I noted that a large 
> number of people reported problems they had not been able to solve.
>   


 
The fix for the IPV6 network problems in Gutsy went out the other day.
Should be fine now in that regard.

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Ubuntu Studio and Ubuntu 7.10 upgrade

2007-10-25 Thread the.peregrine
I had first installed 7.04, followed by Ubuntu Studio, and had been keeping up 
with all recommended upgrades and adding a few additional packages of my own 
choosing.

On Oct. 18, when Gutsy was made available, I felt lucky and accepted the 
upgrade through the Update Manager. I don't regret it. It took longer than I 
thought it would, required a bit more intervention from me than I expected, but 
other than that everything so far has worked pretty well. I did have a minor 
configuration problem with wi-fi but was able to resolve it easily with the gui 
network manager.

In the last few days I've been working with GiMP and F-Spot and other 
photo-related programs, but I expect to get around to some sound recording and 
editing soon. Right now I can't tell you how well any of the sound-editing 
programs are working. The way everything else is working, I would be surprised 
to find a problem.

For the record, I'm using a run-of-the-mill Dell Optiplex GX-150 (Pentium 3). 
The only additions I've made are boosting the RAM to 512mb and adding the 
wireless NIC.

Jeff

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Re: ubuntu studio and ubuntu 7.10

2007-10-24 Thread Darrin Goodman
Oops, I forgot to include starting up dhcp into the commands.  Got
ahead of myself.  Here it is again (also, this is assuming that your
wireless interface is ath0; it could easily be something else, like
ra0, or eth1. etc to see what your interface is, use iwconfig):

$ sudo su
$ ifconfig ath0 up
$ dhclient ath0
$ iwconfig ath0 essid yourRouterNameHere key routerWepKey

Also, in place of the second and third line, you could instead use:
$ ifdown ath0 && ifup ath0
This will bring down your wireless interface, bring it back up, and
will start dhcp.

If the Network Manager is not cutting it for you, try out Wifi Radar;
it can be installed with Synaptic.
http://wifi-radar.systemimager.org/

Good luck!

- Darrin




On 10/24/07, Matt Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Darrin,
>
> Thanks for the info, I'll give this a try.  My issue was that I could see
> the network, but was unable to connect beyond just to the local access
> point.  I use the internet from wifi hotspots, so typically I connect to a
> webpage, log in, and then that grants me access to the outside world.
>
> I was getting the local login prompt, but after putting in my info, I never
> got the response back.  I've seen the same problem reported on the forums,
> but I didn't see anyone post a clear fix or workaround.  I did see one
> person suggest removing network manager and using a different tool - so I'm
> also going to get the details on that and give Gutsy one more try.
>
>
>
> Darrin Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Some of you have mentioned wifi issues with Gutsy. When I upgraded to
> 7.10, when I added the Network Manager to my top panel, I noticed that
> it did not give me any wireless options, which means that I was not
> able to use the gui in order to connect to a wireless network. Not
> sure why this was the case since I am assuming that things generally
> only get better with upgrades, rather than digress. I was able to
> manually connect to wifi with the following:
> $ sudo su
> $ ifconfig ath0 up
> $ iwconfig ath0 essid yourRouterNameHere key routerWepKey
>
> However, now my Network Manager seems to be properly displaying my
> wifi networks and allows me to connect/disconnect to/from them as
> needed. The only thing that I changed was that I installed wifiradar,
> although I have not used it yet. Perhaps there was an update that was
> pushed out that solved the Network-Manager issue.
>
> For those of you who stated that you cannot connect to wifi, I wonder
> if you mean that your Network Manager is not working properly, or if
> you cannot manually connect to wifi using the commands that I listed
> above?
>
> - Darrin
>
> On 10/24/07, Pietro Bergamo wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for the hints.
> > Best regards,
> > Pietro
> >
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Re: ubuntu studio and ubuntu 7.10

2007-10-24 Thread Matt Henry
Hi Darrin,
   
  Thanks for the info, I'll give this a try.  My issue was that I could see the 
network, but was unable to connect beyond just to the local access point.  I 
use the internet from wifi hotspots, so typically I connect to a webpage, log 
in, and then that grants me access to the outside world.
   
  I was getting the local login prompt, but after putting in my info, I never 
got the response back.  I've seen the same problem reported on the forums, but 
I didn't see anyone post a clear fix or workaround.  I did see one person 
suggest removing network manager and using a different tool - so I'm also going 
to get the details on that and give Gutsy one more try.
   
  

Darrin Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Some of you have mentioned wifi issues with Gutsy. When I upgraded to
7.10, when I added the Network Manager to my top panel, I noticed that
it did not give me any wireless options, which means that I was not
able to use the gui in order to connect to a wireless network. Not
sure why this was the case since I am assuming that things generally
only get better with upgrades, rather than digress. I was able to
manually connect to wifi with the following:
$ sudo su
$ ifconfig ath0 up
$ iwconfig ath0 essid yourRouterNameHere key routerWepKey

However, now my Network Manager seems to be properly displaying my
wifi networks and allows me to connect/disconnect to/from them as
needed. The only thing that I changed was that I installed wifiradar,
although I have not used it yet. Perhaps there was an update that was
pushed out that solved the Network-Manager issue.

For those of you who stated that you cannot connect to wifi, I wonder
if you mean that your Network Manager is not working properly, or if
you cannot manually connect to wifi using the commands that I listed
above?

- Darrin

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>
> Thank you for the hints.
> Best regards,
> Pietro
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Re: ubuntu studio and ubuntu 7.10

2007-10-24 Thread Darrin Goodman
Some of you have mentioned wifi issues with Gutsy.  When I upgraded to
7.10, when I added the Network Manager to my top panel, I noticed that
it did not give me any wireless options, which means that I was not
able to use the gui in order to connect to a wireless network.  Not
sure why this was the case since I am assuming that things generally
only get better with upgrades, rather than digress.  I was able to
manually connect to wifi with the following:
$ sudo su
$ ifconfig ath0 up
$ iwconfig ath0 essid yourRouterNameHere key routerWepKey

However, now my Network Manager seems to be properly displaying my
wifi networks and allows me to connect/disconnect to/from them as
needed.  The only thing that I changed was that I installed wifiradar,
although I have not used it yet.  Perhaps there was an update that was
pushed out that solved the Network-Manager issue.

For those of you who stated that you cannot connect to wifi, I wonder
if you mean that your Network Manager is not working properly, or if
you cannot manually connect to wifi using the commands that I listed
above?

- Darrin

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Res: ubuntu studio and ubuntu 7.10

2007-10-24 Thread Pietro Bergamo
Thank you for the hints.
Best regards,
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Re: ubuntu studio and ubuntu 7.10

2007-10-24 Thread Cory K.


Matt Henry wrote:
> I also noted that when I installed the Ubuntu Studio 7.10 that it did
> not include the new "screens and graphics" item on the menus, and did
> not include compiz fusion.

The "Screens & Graphics" utility was something that hit Ubuntu proper
late that we missed. It will be added in Hardy. It's easy to grab
yourself for now. sudo apt-get install displayconfig-gtk

Compiz doesn't fit with our goals takes up needed disk space and we have
no plans on adding it. Ubuntu Studio is not aimed at desktop users and
is mostly unneeded eye-candy on production machines. (Also easily
grabbed manually.) ;)

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RE: ubuntu studio and ubuntu 7.10

2007-10-24 Thread Adams, Scott (FGWA-CO)
I am not a heavy user of all the applications in the UbuntuStudio package. But 
my update works great. Wireless and all! I had Feisty used the repos to get 
Studio on and then used the upgrade feature to upgrade to gutsy.

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Henry
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 9:23 AM
To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion
Subject: Re: ubuntu studio and ubuntu 7.10

 

That's a big decision - If I were you, I would check on the support forums - 
many people have had network problems with 7.10 (including me) which caused 
them not to be able to connect with wifi.  Some people experience random 
lockups, and in the gutsy upgrade experience poll, I noted that a large number 
of people reported problems they had not been able to solve.

 

You may want to check out the problems people have been having and see if the 
problems would apply to you or not, prior to upgrading.

 

I upgraded to 7.10 of Studio, lost my network connection, and finally had to 
reformat and install 7.04 again.  I also tried a fresh install of 7.10 from the 
DVD, but that also did not work.  I also noted that when I installed the Ubuntu 
Studio 7.10 that it did not include the new "screens and graphics" item on the 
menus, and did not include compiz fusion.

 

In any case, if you want to upgrade, you can download the Ubuntu Studio ISO 
image and burn it to DVD, then do the upgrade from there.  

Pietro Bergamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi everybody!
I'm a Ubuntu Studio user and I'd like to know if I should update to 
Ubuntu 7.10. Would it interfere with the configurations provided by Ubuntu 
Studio?
Thanks,
Pietro


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Re: ubuntu studio and ubuntu 7.10

2007-10-24 Thread Matt Henry
That's a big decision - If I were you, I would check on the support forums - 
many people have had network problems with 7.10 (including me) which caused 
them not to be able to connect with wifi.  Some people experience random 
lockups, and in the gutsy upgrade experience poll, I noted that a large number 
of people reported problems they had not been able to solve.
   
  You may want to check out the problems people have been having and see if the 
problems would apply to you or not, prior to upgrading.
   
  I upgraded to 7.10 of Studio, lost my network connection, and finally had to 
reformat and install 7.04 again.  I also tried a fresh install of 7.10 from the 
DVD, but that also did not work.  I also noted that when I installed the Ubuntu 
Studio 7.10 that it did not include the new "screens and graphics" item on the 
menus, and did not include compiz fusion.
   
  In any case, if you want to upgrade, you can download the Ubuntu Studio ISO 
image and burn it to DVD, then do the upgrade from there.  

Pietro Bergamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Hi everybody!
I'm a Ubuntu Studio user and I'd like to know if I should update to Ubuntu 
7.10. Would it interfere with the configurations provided by Ubuntu Studio?
Thanks,
Pietro



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ubuntu studio and ubuntu 7.10

2007-10-24 Thread Pietro Bergamo
Hi everybody!
I'm a Ubuntu Studio user and I'd like to know if I should update to Ubuntu 
7.10. Would it interfere with the configurations provided by Ubuntu Studio?
Thanks,
Pietro




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