Re: Translating Xubuntu docs

[Jim Campbell]

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Timo Jyrinki wrote:

> 2009/3/26 Jim Campbell :
> > I have refreshed the .pot files that are included as part of the
> > documentation, and have committed those .pot file refreshes to my bzr
> > branch, but in examining the translations page of Xubuntu docs, it
> concerns
> > me that it looks like people are translating older versions of the
> > documentation.
>
> The translations at Launchpad / Rosetta are only updated when you
> upload a version of xubuntu-docs package with updated .pot files
> included in the source to the Ubuntu archive.




This is very helpful, Timo.  Thanks very much!

Jim
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Re: Translating Xubuntu docs

[Timo Jyrinki]

2009/3/26 Jim Campbell :
> I have refreshed the .pot files that are included as part of the
> documentation, and have committed those .pot file refreshes to my bzr
> branch, but in examining the translations page of Xubuntu docs, it concerns
> me that it looks like people are translating older versions of the
> documentation.

The translations at Launchpad / Rosetta are only updated when you
upload a version of xubuntu-docs package with updated .pot files
included in the source to the Ubuntu archive. Then the build system
rips off the .pot file and .po file, and uploads those to Rosetta. In
case of UI:s, the PO file translations then automatically come as part
of language packs, but for documentation the documentation maintainer
has to manually download the translations from Rosetta (there should
be an option to translate all languages at once, if you have
sufficient privileges at Launchpad) and upload again new package to
the archive with the translations included.

So if xubuntu-docs source is now ok, it should be uploaded to the
archive as a package. Then on or after 9th of April, which is the
NonLanguagePackTranslationDeadline, translations should be fetched
from Rosetta, translated XML files should be updated in the source
with the new PO files and a new xubuntu-docs with all translations
included should be done. If you can automate this well enough, the
translators could benefit of download PO files - upload .deb cycles
also before the deadline, since unfortunately testing documentation in
real use is not within every translator's capabilities. (also it would
be good practice in general so that it can be found if there is
anything wrong with bringing the translations into use)

The ubuntu-docs maintainer(s) have also experienced in the past that
if the translators make typos in the XML tags, it may bring additional
work to the maintainer when a fully translated upload is prepared.

-Timo

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Translating Xubuntu docs

[Jim Campbell]

Hi All,

I have refreshed the .pot files that are included as part of the
documentation, and have committed those .pot file refreshes to my bzr
branch, but in examining the translations page of Xubuntu docs, it concerns
me that it looks like people are translating older versions of the
documentation.  Surely it seems as though I have missed a step, but I'm
afraid that trying to navigate the myriad of launchpad / rosetta translation
pages is a bit on the confusing side.

Any issues may be due to the fact that I have been using the
xubuntu-jaunty-yelpversion branch (which was basically me starting with
current Ubuntu docs, and then modifying them to suit Xubuntu), and had
retired the xubuntu-jaunty branch.

Here is the url to the translations page that I was referencing, though:
https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/xubuntu-docs
Please pardon my ignorance, but I just want to make sure that translators
aren't attempting to update outdated documentation, and that end-users get
the most updated documentation possible.  Thanks very much.

Jim
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