Re: How much work is a translation/localization of an entire new language?

[Andika Triwidada]

Hi Carsten,


On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 1:28 PM Carsten Agger  wrote:
> Even though a limited subset (Firefox, LibreOffice, GNOME) would seem to
> go a long way.

Just a ballpark:

* Mozilla translation platform is pontoon https://pontoon.mozilla.org/projects/
string count for Firefox is around 27k.

* LibreOffice translation platform is weblate
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/
string count for UI is around 39k, help ~53k

* GNOME translation platform is Damned Lies https://l10n.gnome.org/
string count for UI is around 43k, help ~15k
they are for GNOME 'core', many more modules are available.

Mozilla and LibreOffice platform support online and offline translation,
while GNOME only support offline (you need to download file to be translated,
do translation using your preferred app, then upload translation result back
to the platform).

>
> Best,
> Carsten

Using a translation app which has a machine translation feature can really
speed up your task by automatically querying DeepL, Google Translate,
Microsoft Translator, etc. Of course you still need to review those
result
manually. Not sure if any of those support your target language.

Another number to consider, on a really good day I can translate around
500 strings. But on average I process around 100 strings a day. Not sure
how quick those commercial translation services can do.

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Andika

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Re: Ubuntu Desktop Guide in 17.10

[Andika Triwidada]

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Gunnar Hjalmarsson
 wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> On 2017-09-21 23:16, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
>>
>> Status of ubuntu-docs
>> -
>> I'm sorry to say that, even if it's doc string freeze[1] today, we
>> are not yet done with ubuntu-docs for this cycle. We'll need another
>> few days to get it ready. I'll get back to you as soon as it's ready
>> for translation.
>
>
> Now the ubuntu-docs package (the ubuntu-help translation domain) is done and
> ready to be translated. Sorry again for the delay.
>
> Important note:
> ===
> Since the desktop guide for 17.10 is substantially made up of pages from
> GNOME Help, only languages which have been translated in the gnome-user-docs
> package will be taken into account for ubuntu-docs. You find those languages
> here:
>
> https://l10n.gnome.org/module/gnome-user-docs/#gnome-3-26
>
> In other words: If you don't find your language in that list, translating
> ubuntu-docs into your language isn't very urgent.
>
> This means that for some languages, which were well covered in e.g. the
> 16.04 ubuntu-docs, no translations will be made available in the 17.10
> desktop guide. Some of those languages are:
>
> English (United Kingdom)
> Malay
> Ukrainian
> Bosnian
> Turkish
> Occitan (post 1500)
>
> The way to fix that (I'm talking 18.04 now) is to start translating
> gnome-user-docs upstream.
>
> For those of you, whose languages have been translated in gnome-user-docs,
> the 17.10 deadline for ubuntu-docs is October 10.
>
>
> I think that's it. Please don't hesitate to ask for clarifications.
>
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Hi Gunnar,

How often is translation PO files from launchpad is updated into
lp:ubuntu-docs repo?
I just tried to translate several Indonesian strings, but unable to
see those new ones
in my updated repo clone.

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Re: launchpad synchronisation with upstream

[Andika Triwidada]

On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Redmar  wrote:
>
> As far as I know, translations from gnome will override existing
> translations done in launchpad, so it is always best to send you
> translations upstream to make sure they are not lost.
>
> Finding the correct upstream can be a bit of a hassle, this wiki lists
> some upstreams, but I'm not sure how up-to-date it is. I mostly click
> around in launchpad/use google to figure out what the correct upstream
> is. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Upstream
>
> Regards,
> Redmar

Specific to Trusty vs GNOME, I've created a page
to track upstream relation
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Upstream/GNOME/GnomeTrustyModules

Need feedback and extra eyes to do URL verification :D

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Re: Where I can translate shutdown button.

[Andika Triwidada]

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Sira Nokyoongtong wrote:

> Hello translator.
>
> I just finding where to translate a shutdown button (in attach file). It
> should be indicator-applet-session. But nothing in this link
> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/indicator-applet-session
>
>
> Regard
> Sira Nokyoongtong
>
>
I believe it is in indicator-session

https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/indicator-session/+pots/indicator-session/id/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=Shut+Down...


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Long tail of wrong translation language, how to correct?

[Andika Triwidada]

Dear translation admins,

There are several strange translation suggestion for Indonesian. For example:
https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/kde-guidance/+pots/guidance/id/87/+translate
This translation comes from different language (Hungarian?),
definitely unrelated to Indonesian.

It will appear as an annoying suggestion for translations like in:
https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/gdm/+pots/gdm/id/206/+translate
and many other places.

I think this is related to bug #133315:
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/133315

What is the best way to prevent those wrong suggestion from keep reappearing?

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Re: release notes translations: 9.04 final

[Andika Triwidada]

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Steve Langasek
 wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
>> Draft release notes for Ubuntu 9.04 are available at
>> .  While these are
>> not yet final, I expect that all the issues documented there will be
>> included in the final release notes.
>
> Thanks to everyone who has provided release notes translations so far!  The
> release notes on this page have been expanded to include documentation for a
> number of other issues.  If you have already translated the release notes
> from the release candidate, please re-visit this page to find additional
> errata that should be documented for the release so that users will have
> up-to-date release notes in your language.
>
> As before, please use
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes/ for your
> translations, and coordinate with Matthew Nuzum
>  (cc:ed), when you are ready to have these
> translations linked from the Ubuntu website.

Indonesian translation is complete:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes/id

>
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Effect of wrong language translation upload?

[Andika Triwidada]

Dear Translators,

Please check this out-of-place Indonesian translation
https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/kde-guidance/+pots/guidance/id/

'Cleaning' those 11 strings translation will be a quick job, but it
has a quite widespread side-effect: it offers suggestions to various
other Indonesian translations. I need your advice how to negate this.

Thank you in advance, and please let me know where to ask if this list
is not the appropriate place.

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