Re: Third Natty langpack update delayed

2011-08-06 Thread Hannie

Hi,
I am still anxiously waiting for the Dutch translation of the 
Gnome-user-docs to appear in the Dutch version of Natty. When can I 
expect to see them in the Dutch version of Natty?

Hannie

Op 15-07-11 11:31, David Planella schreef:

El dv 15 de 07 de 2011 a les 10:16 +0100, en/na Matthew East va
escriure:

On 14 July 2011 23:57, Gabor Kelemenkelem...@gnome.hu  wrote:

Hi all

If you follow [1], you could have expected a call for testing the packages
for the third langpack update of Natty. Unfortunately, we had to delay this
by a week.

The reason for this is that we failed to request a full language pack update
as a base of the update, and this makes it impossible to ship the updated
gnome-user-docs translations, what was requested in [2] and also here in the
last few days. This mistake was corrected yesterday, and next weeks packages
should contain the docs too. Only after that will the call for testing be
sent out.

Thanks for taking care of this, I wasn't aware that there needed to be
a special request for including docs translations so it's good that
you were watching this.


Yeah, this skipped our radar too. There are two types of language packs:

   * Delta language packs (contain only translations changed since
 the last full language pack, are automatically created on the
 weekly translations PPA)
   * Full language pack (contain all translations and need to be
 requested and generated manually)

Documentation updates are only contained in full language packs.

In the future, I think both teams (docs and translations) should try to
better coordinate SRU updates.

Here is our schedule:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/NattyLanguagePackReleaseSchedule
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/MaverickLanguagePackReleaseSchedule
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LucidLanguagePackReleaseSchedule

We should probably post the announcements on the docs list too, and in
the same way, I think it'd be really useful if the docs team posts the
announcements on upcoming uploads on the translators list too.


It would be brilliant if you could check that the translations from
the gnome-user-docs package in natty-proposed will also be included,
as this has not yet been copied over to natty-updates.


I believe it being in natty-proposed should be enough for the language
packs to pick them up, but we'll double check. Thanks for the heads up.

Martin, I've included you on CC to see if you can answer this question.

In short, we've requested a full Natty language pack export that should
be available on Wednesday next week, and we'd like it to include the
contents of the gnome-user-docs package in natty-proposed.

Is it enough for it to be in -proposed for its translations to be picked
up by the full language pack?

Thanks.

Cheers,
David.





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Re: Third Natty langpack update delayed

2011-08-06 Thread David Planella
El ds 06 de 08 de 2011 a les 10:59 +0200, en/na Hannie va escriure:
 Hi,
 I am still anxiously waiting for the Dutch translation of the 
 Gnome-user-docs to appear in the Dutch version of Natty. When can I 
 expect to see them in the Dutch version of Natty?
 Hannie
 

Hi Hannie,

I uploaded the Natty language packs about a week ago. This is a step
generally Martin Pitt does, but he was away at the time. It seems that
they did not get uploaded in the end, but I've been busy with other
projects to contact the other archive admins and find out what happened.

I'm away next week, but Martin will be back, so if someone could help by
just pinging him on IRC, we could then unblock the language packs.

Thanks.

Regards,
David

 Op 15-07-11 11:31, David Planella schreef:
  El dv 15 de 07 de 2011 a les 10:16 +0100, en/na Matthew East va
  escriure:
  On 14 July 2011 23:57, Gabor Kelemenkelem...@gnome.hu  wrote:
  Hi all
 
  If you follow [1], you could have expected a call for testing the packages
  for the third langpack update of Natty. Unfortunately, we had to delay 
  this
  by a week.
 
  The reason for this is that we failed to request a full language pack 
  update
  as a base of the update, and this makes it impossible to ship the updated
  gnome-user-docs translations, what was requested in [2] and also here in 
  the
  last few days. This mistake was corrected yesterday, and next weeks 
  packages
  should contain the docs too. Only after that will the call for testing be
  sent out.
  Thanks for taking care of this, I wasn't aware that there needed to be
  a special request for including docs translations so it's good that
  you were watching this.
 
  Yeah, this skipped our radar too. There are two types of language packs:
 
 * Delta language packs (contain only translations changed since
   the last full language pack, are automatically created on the
   weekly translations PPA)
 * Full language pack (contain all translations and need to be
   requested and generated manually)
 
  Documentation updates are only contained in full language packs.
 
  In the future, I think both teams (docs and translations) should try to
  better coordinate SRU updates.
 
  Here is our schedule:
 
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/NattyLanguagePackReleaseSchedule
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/MaverickLanguagePackReleaseSchedule
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LucidLanguagePackReleaseSchedule
 
  We should probably post the announcements on the docs list too, and in
  the same way, I think it'd be really useful if the docs team posts the
  announcements on upcoming uploads on the translators list too.
 
  It would be brilliant if you could check that the translations from
  the gnome-user-docs package in natty-proposed will also be included,
  as this has not yet been copied over to natty-updates.
 
  I believe it being in natty-proposed should be enough for the language
  packs to pick them up, but we'll double check. Thanks for the heads up.
 
  Martin, I've included you on CC to see if you can answer this question.
 
  In short, we've requested a full Natty language pack export that should
  be available on Wednesday next week, and we'd like it to include the
  contents of the gnome-user-docs package in natty-proposed.
 
  Is it enough for it to be in -proposed for its translations to be picked
  up by the full language pack?
 
  Thanks.
 
  Cheers,
  David.
 
 
 
 


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Re: Third Natty langpack update delayed

2011-08-06 Thread Gabor Kelemen

2011-08-06 13:33 keltezéssel, David Planella írta:

El ds 06 de 08 de 2011 a les 10:59 +0200, en/na Hannie va escriure:

Hi,
I am still anxiously waiting for the Dutch translation of the
Gnome-user-docs to appear in the Dutch version of Natty. When can I
expect to see them in the Dutch version of Natty?
Hannie


Hi Hannie,

I uploaded the Natty language packs about a week ago. This is a step
generally Martin Pitt does, but he was away at the time. It seems that
they did not get uploaded in the end, but I've been busy with other
projects to contact the other archive admins and find out what happened.

I'm away next week, but Martin will be back, so if someone could help by
just pinging him on IRC, we could then unblock the language packs.


I'll do that.

Regards
Gabor Kelemen

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Re: Third Natty langpack update delayed

2011-07-15 Thread David Planella
El dv 15 de 07 de 2011 a les 10:16 +0100, en/na Matthew East va
escriure:
 On 14 July 2011 23:57, Gabor Kelemen kelem...@gnome.hu wrote:
  Hi all
 
  If you follow [1], you could have expected a call for testing the packages
  for the third langpack update of Natty. Unfortunately, we had to delay this
  by a week.
 
  The reason for this is that we failed to request a full language pack update
  as a base of the update, and this makes it impossible to ship the updated
  gnome-user-docs translations, what was requested in [2] and also here in the
  last few days. This mistake was corrected yesterday, and next weeks packages
  should contain the docs too. Only after that will the call for testing be
  sent out.
 
 Thanks for taking care of this, I wasn't aware that there needed to be
 a special request for including docs translations so it's good that
 you were watching this.
 

Yeah, this skipped our radar too. There are two types of language packs:

  * Delta language packs (contain only translations changed since
the last full language pack, are automatically created on the
weekly translations PPA)
  * Full language pack (contain all translations and need to be
requested and generated manually)

Documentation updates are only contained in full language packs.

In the future, I think both teams (docs and translations) should try to
better coordinate SRU updates.

Here is our schedule:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/NattyLanguagePackReleaseSchedule
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/MaverickLanguagePackReleaseSchedule
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LucidLanguagePackReleaseSchedule

We should probably post the announcements on the docs list too, and in
the same way, I think it'd be really useful if the docs team posts the
announcements on upcoming uploads on the translators list too.

 It would be brilliant if you could check that the translations from
 the gnome-user-docs package in natty-proposed will also be included,
 as this has not yet been copied over to natty-updates.
 

I believe it being in natty-proposed should be enough for the language
packs to pick them up, but we'll double check. Thanks for the heads up.

Martin, I've included you on CC to see if you can answer this question.

In short, we've requested a full Natty language pack export that should
be available on Wednesday next week, and we'd like it to include the
contents of the gnome-user-docs package in natty-proposed.

Is it enough for it to be in -proposed for its translations to be picked
up by the full language pack?

Thanks.

Cheers,
David.

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Re: Third Natty langpack update delayed

2011-07-15 Thread Martin Pitt
David Planella [2011-07-15 11:31 +0200]:
  It would be brilliant if you could check that the translations from
  the gnome-user-docs package in natty-proposed will also be included,
  as this has not yet been copied over to natty-updates.
  
 
 I believe it being in natty-proposed should be enough for the language
 packs to pick them up, but we'll double check.

langpack-o-matic doesn't care about components, it imports static
translations from all pockets. So in short, Yes, it's enough.

Martin

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