Re: voting on a string
Hi Kenneth, У нед, 01. 02 2009. у 01:56 +0100, Kenneth Nielsen пише: Changed the spelling error in the title so that it now is sign-off the way it should be, that means that it is now to new URL's https://blueprints.launchpad.net/rosetta/+spec/sign-off-on-translation https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SignOffOnTranslation Thanks for filing these and explaining it in this many details. I believe I am sort-of-aware of what it is that you are proposing here. As we discussed previously, I don't like the idea too much: it is about introducing another layer for people to submit something (without it ever being looked at, which is a likely to happen). Simply, our current reviewing mechanisms are not being used to an enough extent to warrant introducing another layer in between. And, there's still a lot we can do to improve the current reviewing workflow so it's more usable without introducing more complications. And you might be surprised, but implementing feedback and commenting system would be easier than actually doing this (and a better solution to the problem, imo) — this is actually what makes me not like the proposed solution. I.e. if you came up with something that would be simpler to implement and obviously more useful (this one might be more useful than having a commenting system, but it's not too obvious), I'd be happy to have us consider working on it sooner rather than later. :) Of course, once we come to start discussing implementing this, we'll consider your proposal as well. So, maybe I just don't see all the benefits of the proposed solution yet, and will see them as the time comes. Cheers, Danilo -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: voting on a string
Kenneth Nielsen wrote: Changed the spelling error in the title so that it now is sign-off the way it should be, that means that it is now to new URL's https://blueprints.launchpad.net/rosetta/+spec/sign-off-on-translation https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SignOffOnTranslation Thank you. Be warned that we have a lot of engineering work to do, so it's probably going to be some time before this becomes a candidate for our priorities list! Jeroen -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: voting on a string
I have now formulated my proposal in the following spec: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/rosetta/+spec/sign-of-on-translation with a more thorough explanation on this wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SignOfOnTranslation Regards Kenneth Nielsen 2009/1/28 henn...@ubuntu.com: Hi all, currently there are no plans to implement something like this but it might be worth explaining the idea in a blueprint so that it won't get lost. https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+addspec Best Regards, Henning -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: voting on a string
henn...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi all, currently there are no plans to implement something like this but it might be worth explaining the idea in a blueprint so that it won't get lost. Frankly I'm a bit worried that this would be spreading the translation effort too thin. The current process is: translator (any logged-in user) submits a suggestion, after which a member of the translation team checks whether it should go in. If you expect more people to sign off, that opens the door to lots of people working on the same fraction of strings without achieving as much as they would as reviewers. That's assuming those voters are aware enough of applicable terminology and style standards etc. to be reviewers. But if most aren't, then the voting is really only helpful for the cases that a good reviewer instantly recognizes as correct anyway. Finally, there's a technical issue with a cost trade-off: we have millions and millions of translated messages for every Ubuntu release, with large numbers of people involved. If this feature sees serious use, we'd have to store millions and millions of votes: person X already voted for translation Y. That will slow down the site--maybe so little that you wouldn't notice, or maybe so much that it annoys lots of people. Jeroen -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
