Re: [ubuntu-uk] Post-LinuxWorld thoughts
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 10:27:47PM +0100, Stuart Parkington wrote: ^^^ Possible date issue there. We only went an hour back at the weekend, not a whole month! :D -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] USB modem
On 27/10/06, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well thank you Neil and for the advice. I was trying to find a way to transfer the saved text to XP because with Ubuntu open I cannot see the XP drive content to do a drop so now find Ubuntu will read my memory pen so I can use that. That's a good way to do it. You can also - install a 'driver' in XP that will let you read ext2/3 Linux partitions (this is safe, since the ext2 format is freely available) -- google for Ext2IFS I think - or you can get read-write access to NTFS partitions in Linux with some risk to your data. I think the FUSE project is currently the safest way to do this. If you want more info, look for fuse-ntfs, or I can try finding the right back-issue of Linux Format which discussed it... You can get read-only access to NTFS partitions in Linux safely -- look in the Ubuntu forums for NTFS, although I think this is configured automatically. Then if needed I can send a copy of the terminal or editor. I have been in the forum for same weeks but find it a bit of a plod to get answers that way although I do pick up bits and pieces that are real helpful. Of course its best to get mail that you can read and print out. That's the main problem at the moment. I read somewhere that the person in charge of the Ubuntu documentation is planning to reorganise it as part of the work on Feisty Fawn. I know it's not going to help the forums, but the wiki and help.ubuntu.com (?) are good for reference too, but badly organised. Cheers, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 18, Issue 61
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Surely a clever email client could parse these headers and offer the links to the user? I wonder if any do. - Andy Thunderbird does :-) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFRfLR+zIA+Re6eQIRAn2uAJ0ao1R8zEcqGAft5zqowXnrs+1NGACcDX6B fArXrFIga83CTs3LIx6leu8= =g+YW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Newcomer to ubuntu - some questions.
On Mon, 2006-10-30 at 14:10 +, tim matthews wrote: are you using the 32 bit or the 64 bit version? for the desktop, there is an amd64 which is for 64 bit. I am using the 32 bit version. On PCLOS they have an optimised kernel for Athlon64's. I was just wondering if Ubuntu had a similar one? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Newcomer to ubuntu - some questions.
On 30/10/06, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-10-30 at 14:10 +, tim matthews wrote: are you using the 32 bit or the 64 bit version? for the desktop, there is an amd64 which is for 64 bit. I am using the 32 bit version. On PCLOS they have an optimised kernel for Athlon64's. I was just wondering if Ubuntu had a similar one? Yes that would be the Ubuntu amd64bit option on the download page. It is a full 64bit environment. -- Seek That Thy Might Know -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Newcomer to ubuntu - some questions.
On Mon, 2006-10-30 at 14:32 +, David Morley wrote: Yes that would be the Ubuntu amd64bit option on the download page. It is a full 64bit environment. I don't want the full 64 bit environment, just an optimised kernel. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Newcomer to ubuntu - some questions.
I don't want the full 64 bit environment, just an optimised kernel. Right now I'm with you in that case your kernel should already be as accelerated as it can be. The default kernel detects what processor you have and adjusts itself accordingly, as far as I can figure it. -- Seek That Thy Might Know -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UKTeam Meetings Minutes
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006, Nik Butler wrote: 3. We need to post a story to the Fridge and if we can locate one of those end of show piccies ( Laura ? Tony ? Alan(s) ? Yes, yes, yes. Especially if somebody sends me the photos---and after that if anyone has any extra time to note down the first 3 best/worst moments of the show I try to expand those to something better. -Paul -- High on a tall bridge, surrounded by noisy lorries. London, GB -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UKTeam Meetings Minutes
On Monday 30 October 2006 14:29, Jono Bacon wrote: Can I recommend fortnightly meetings during the day on IRC. We will never please everyone, but many of the core contributors see to be on during the day. Naturally this will lock some people out, so do speak up if you can't make it. Seems to me that most people will be working during the day, while I presume everyone has Internet access available at home in the evening. I didn't manage to attend the last meeting, but I'd be interested in attending the next one. Kind thoughts, Francis Giannaros (apokryphos) pgpXkai15Ykd7.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UKTeam Meetings Minutes
Paul Sladen wrote: Yes, yes, yes. Especially if somebody sends me the photos---and after that if anyone has any extra time to note down the first 3 best/worst moments of the show I try to expand those to something better. Can I nominate the Maori (sp?) warriors for one of the worst moments? -- Dave Murphy - http://www.schwuk.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UKTeam Meetings Minutes
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006, Dave Murphy wrote: Paul Sladen wrote: Yes, yes, yes. Especially if somebody sends me the photos---and after that if anyone has any extra time to note down the first 3 best/worst moments of the show I try to expand those to something better. Can I nominate the Maori (sp?) warriors for one of the worst moments? Hey, don't diss them. Most of the people I spoke to though they were advertising Ubuntu. Free publicity is always good! :) They will certainly get a mention though; anyone remember *anything* else about the show? -Paul -- High on a tall bridge, surrounded by noisy lorries. London, GB -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UKTeam Meetings Minutes
They will certainly get a mention though; anyone remember *anything* else about the show? -Paul Apart from convincing people to line up and lay down and make like an Edgy Logo ? Me being asked if I was jono ! I mean where the heck did that come from ? the Stand blocking the aisle for both days ( um sorry Jokosher/hula/postgres ! ) The Canonical lot asking us for more CDs, see the Support team was working already. Getting Everyone on the Stand and Canonical and MadDog(?) to sign the Ubuntu Conference Tshirt, its on its way for Mr Shuttleworth to sign off and then up for Auction for Children In Need. Running out of Medium Sized polo shirts on day 1 .. sorry about that ! The First UKTeam meeting face to face where in we realised that we needed a Video App similar in quality and functionaluty to Jokosher. Alan Cocks being determined to singlehandedly fix the Documentation Bug on everyone of our Kubuntu CDs. ( the Trooper ! ) . Hes a great example of how to begin to get involved and how to help make things better. Oh that and his multi boot Laptop! other than that .. no . im out of ideas .. sorry Nik -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UKTeam Meetings Minutes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nik Butler wrote: Ive posted the minutes as per my Scrawl here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UkTeamMeetingNotes There were two things mentions one of which needs to be agreed before Tommorow 1. The date of the next Online Team Meeting via IRC and the format as well as moderators/chairman and possibly agenda. 2. Vodkosher the Jono Bacon Screencast capture/edit project. The following people expressed an interest in screencapture project technologies and addressing the issues relevant in the utilisation and implementation of it. Nik Butler, Alan Pope, Mike Preston, Chris Hannan, John Levin, Alan Helmore-Simpson, Geddes Peart . What we do next is upto someone. 3. We need to post a story to the Fridge and if we can locate one of those end of show piccies ( Laura ? Tony ? Alan(s) ? who had the cameras ? ) id like to use one of those and either Jono or I can knock out a paragraph to send to Linux User Developer and Linux format etc etc etc. 4... um thats all for now. Oh yes , i have the figures for CDs and Poloshirts but thats going to take another 30 minutes to write up and im out of time for now so I will post that later. Regards Nik I've created a gallery on the wiki, only one picture on there at the moment, but I'm sure you lot will add more :-) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Gallery -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFRlUKq6hcwjwNNS4RApxiAKCAsYyxtGCW6ScZyLuSxNePIKvxwwCfX7p/ QP0gANEsGzWCyKMl4BoZzTo= =N2Yg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Some PC builder advice please
Hi, I haven't posted here before although I've been using Linux since 2000 and Ubuntu for about a year. To be honest my question isn't directly related to Ubuntu but I'm hoping someone will help. I'm looking to replace the PC my kids use this Christmas with something suitable to play their 3D games (albeit on Windows). I've seen a machine advertised on the Mesh site with Intel Duo 2 Core, 1Gb Ram, 250Gb HDD, 19 widescreen TFT, 512Mb GPU etc etc. I see it as a good buy at £699 but I haven't heard much about Mesh before and so was looking for some feedback. If anyone has good or bad comments to make on Mesh I'll be glad to hear them. Indeed, any alternative suppliers would be welcome too. Of course, it goes without saying I'll have Ubuntu on ASAP, just need to get the holidays over first. Many thanks, Neil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UKTeam Meetings Minutes
Paul Sladen wrote: On Mon, 30 Oct 2006, Nik Butler wrote: 3. We need to post a story to the Fridge and if we can locate one of those end of show piccies ( Laura ? Tony ? Alan(s) ? Yes, yes, yes. Especially if somebody sends me the photos---and after that if anyone has any extra time to note down the first 3 best/worst moments of the show I try to expand those to something better. At one stage I was between corridors, a professor and his academic colleague were apparently passing behind me, the prof noticed the Ubuntu sticker on my hat - said loudly to his colleague 'this guy can help!' He then explained that they had 5 million pounds grant to help with a particular education project in South Africa, and they were going to use Ubuntu, and where could they get a SA Ubuntu contact from? Since we were only about 6 meters from the Canonical stand, I did not have to take them far :-) -- alan cocks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UKTeam Meetings Minutes
Nik Butler wrote: Ive posted the minutes as per my Scrawl here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UkTeamMeetingNotes There were two things mentions one of which needs to be agreed before Tommorow 1. The date of the next Online Team Meeting via IRC Help. How do I get to begin to use IRC? I have been very much email oriented in my experience. I have used instant messenger literally once or twice, but never IRC. A few initial pointers would be appreciated. -- alan cocks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UKTeam Meetings Minutes
On 30/10/06, Nik Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Help. How do I get to begin to use IRC? I have been very much email oriented in my experience. I have used instant messenger literally once or twice, but never IRC. A few initial pointers would be appreciated. Okay im dropping in here to be both Considerate and Helpful if I can . Install XChat ( it available in the Package lists ) joining IRC is not to difficult since your going to need to know where we are so you need to know two things , the Network is Freenode and the channel onthat network is #ubuntu-uk Since im an experienced user i never documented the process and now that I type it I find i make very many assumptions , however since your totally new to IRC would you mind making notes and taking screenshots as you go and then we can talk about posting these on the wiki ? I can go for an istanbul video for gaim irc if you want? -- Seek That Thy Might Know -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UKTeam Meetings Minutes
I can go for an istanbul video for gaim irc if you want? hmmm right out of the batting cage I can see how if we can create screencast tutorials for these sort of things and then use things like googleTube and the Wikis its going to boost awareness.. but yes please ...even from me ! Nik -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Some PC builder advice please
On 30/10/06, Neil Winters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen a machine advertised on the Mesh site with Intel Duo 2 Core, 1Gb Ram, 250Gb HDD, 19 widescreen TFT, 512Mb GPU etc etc. I see it as a good buy at £699 but I haven't heard much about Mesh before and so was looking for some feedback. Mesh is a name that has been around for years, whether they are the same company still, or another someone else trading as mesh - I am not sure. They always had a good name. The spec sounds good, so as long as they are around for the life of the warranty - it should be okay. The unknown factor is the quality of their support, and they can't be any worse than Dell(?), but you won't know how good they fix problems until they have your money. How about googling mesh problem for example and see what hits you get back and checking out Computer Shopper and the similar Mags. They are normally quite honest about suppliers. Matthew -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Some PC builder advice please
Matthew Saunders wrote: Mesh is a name that has been around for years, whether they are the same company still, or another someone else trading as mesh - I am not sure. They always had a good name. The spec sounds good, so as long as they are around for the life of the warranty - it should be okay. The unknown factor is the quality of their support, and they can't be any worse than Dell(?), but you won't know how good they fix problems until they have your money. I have had mixed experiences with Dell. The company I work for (a large UK wide media company) only have Dell PCs and I have lost count of how many times I have phoned Dell with regards to a PC failing. Sometimes their call centre staff are helpful and other times they are just plain awful (one case of which caused major problems). One thing I forgot to mention, if you can order the PC on a credit card you'll have more protection than if you just sent a cheque or paid by debit card. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UKTeam Meetings Minutes
Reply to Alan C here expanding on what Nik has already said... On 30/10/06, Nik Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Help. How do I get to begin to use IRC? I have been very much email Okay im dropping in here to be both Considerate and Helpful if I can . Install XChat ( it available in the Package lists ) It's worth pointing out that Gaim (Ubuntu/Gnome) and Kopete (Kubuntu/KDE) can both log into IRC and may be more friendly for new users, if infuriatingly limiting for the more experienced. You can also add a IRC client as an extension in Firefox (search for IRC on Firefox extensions page) which will also allow Firefox to automatically open IRC URLs for you. joining IRC is not to difficult since your going to need to know where we are so you need to know two things , the Network is Freenode and the channel onthat network is #ubuntu-uk If you need a full server name (I think gaim requires this) use irc.freenode.net which (should) automatically connect you to the nearest freenode server. Most applications have lists of servers in them. Once you've connected you need to use the /join command to enter a channel. Just type: /join #ubuntu-uk ...in the main window. If you're doing this in Kopete (as I've just discovered) you need to add it as an automatic command on connect (on the 3rd tab) Since im an experienced user i never documented the process and now that I type it I find i make very many assumptions , however since your totally new to IRC would you mind making notes and taking screenshots as you go and then we can talk about posting these on the wiki ? That's an interesting method for beginners guides Here's roughly how to do something you don't know anything about, write us a guide once you've figured it out. It sounds like I'm being sarcastic, but it might actually work...! Best way to learn is to teach. I could write up some guides for different clients if that would be beneficial? Might be bigger in scope than the UK wiki pages. Martin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] recreating Logos.
A while ago I mentioned why not run a compo to recreate the Ubuntu Logos, well as you can see from here http://gallery.tonywhitmore.co.uk/linuxexpo_oct_2006 it can look quite excellent! Cheers Laura ( Mrs Whitemore grin ) for the precarious positioning to take this ! Nik -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Some PC builder advice please
Hi, My father bought a Mesh last year, good spec Athlon64 3500 250GB SATA 1GB Ram* * NVIDIA GeForce 6??0 Graphics. But it ended up running very slow under windows and has had multiple boot problems, XP professional has been reinstalled multiple times, it now has ubuntu on it which runs ok so far (hasn't been on there for long) and the latest reinstall of XP seems to be ok to date. The support desk drones don't have much useful to say on anything. There was also a hardware issue with motherboard fan (northbridge) which had to be replaced. It took quite a while because when they finally came they brought the wrong fan. The cost of act of replacing the fan - A guy in a van coming out 30 miles with the wrong £1 fan + the cost of coming out a couple of days later with the correct fan must have been enormous. You might ask why I didn't just replace it, well warranties are a double edged sword sometimes. Overall I wouldn't recommend them. But I always build my own PCs and I really don't have much faith in any pre-built systems, as they often use components that I wouldn't rate. Like Maxtor hard drives which have a notoriously high failure rate. The cases are also very cheap and difficult to upgrade the components inside without changing cases e.g. adding a hard drive. You also often only get 1 PCI/E slot on the motherboard making it impossible to add more expansion cards. That aside, if you can't see yourself ever needing to open the case of the machine I would look at Dell, HP, Philips, acer and maybe some people like komplett. -- /\/\ichael [ X3N ] \/\/ood [ http://michaelwood.me.uk ] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Some PC builder advice please
On 30/10/06, Neil Winters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone has good or bad comments to make on Mesh I'll be glad to hear them. Indeed, any alternative suppliers would be welcome too. Not used them myself, but the spec is good for the price and Mesh seem to be recommended / A Listed in a few serious and games magazines. (PC Pro springs to mind) If it was me, and I hadn't just built a similar spec machine I'd go for it. -- email/jabber/msn/googletalk: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk member gallery
Hi all I've added a Member photo gallery to the wiki, it's nice to put a name to a face. So go add yourself. Don't laugh at mine ;) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Gallery/Members Cheers Paul [VooDoo] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UKTeam Meetings Minutes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Fitzpatrick wrote: Reply to Alan C here expanding on what Nik has already said... On 30/10/06, Nik Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since im an experienced user i never documented the process and now that I type it I find i make very many assumptions , however since your totally new to IRC would you mind making notes and taking screenshots as you go and then we can talk about posting these on the wiki ? That's an interesting method for beginners guides Here's roughly how to do something you don't know anything about, write us a guide once you've figured it out. It sounds like I'm being sarcastic, but it might actually work...! Best way to learn is to teach. I could write up some guides for different clients if that would be beneficial? Might be bigger in scope than the UK wiki pages. Sounds good, why not make the guides more generic and have them be on the Ubuntu help wiki [1]. It may be wise to check no-one else has done the work beforehand though - I wrote about connecting to #ubuntu via xchat-gnome is in the Ubuntu Desktop Guide, I'm not sure if alternative clients are covered in the wiki or xubuntu/kubuntu docs. Dean [1] http://help.ubuntu.com/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFRpTmeedO8dcp9nYRAukJAJwOFcW0hW7sVxOzGhKwZr58aK8JfgCgjE1p Wz7s2RunOrt65gDkUrQFFE4= =U1kh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Newcomer to ubuntu - some questions.
On 30/10/06 14:03, John wrote: 1. How can I get verbose boot messages back? The only way I know that solves this problem is removing the 'quiet' option from the kernel boot options (either editing the command in grub every time you boot or poking a stanza in /boot/grub/menu.lst to make it permanent) I think it's a pity they removed the boot messages to be honest. After using Linux for a while it's frustrating to not know what my computers are doing as they boot. It's one of the things I dislike about Windows and now it's made its way into Ubuntu :/ -- Andy Price http://andrewprice.me.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Newcomer to ubuntu - some questions.
On 30/10/06, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. Is there an available kernel, optimised for AMD64 processors?That depends on why you want a 64-bit kernel. If it's not in this list then you are better off with the 32-bit one:* You have 4GB or more of RAM * You have more than 2GB of RAM, and a single process that needs to use most of it* You want to mmap files of more than 4GB, or otherwise have a process with a 4GB+ address spacePete -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UKTeam Meetings Minutes
Martin Fitzpatrick wrote: Reply to Alan C here expanding on what Nik has already said... On 30/10/06, Nik Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Help. How do I get to begin to use IRC? I have been very much email Okay im dropping in here to be both Considerate and Helpful if I can . Install XChat ( it available in the Package lists ) It's worth pointing out that Gaim (Ubuntu/Gnome) and Kopete (Kubuntu/KDE) can both log into IRC and may be more friendly for new users, if infuriatingly limiting for the more experienced. You can also add a IRC client as an extension in Firefox (search for IRC on Firefox extensions page) which will also allow Firefox to automatically open IRC URLs for you. joining IRC is not to difficult since your going to need to know where we are so you need to know two things , the Network is Freenode and the channel onthat network is #ubuntu-uk If you need a full server name (I think gaim requires this) use irc.freenode.net which (should) automatically connect you to the nearest freenode server. Most applications have lists of servers in them. Once you've connected you need to use the /join command to enter a channel. Just type: /join #ubuntu-uk ...in the main window. If you're doing this in Kopete (as I've just discovered) you need to add it as an automatic command on connect (on the 3rd tab) Thanks Since im an experienced user i never documented the process and now that I type it I find i make very many assumptions , however since your totally new to IRC would you mind making notes and taking screenshots as you go and then we can talk about posting these on the wiki ? That's an interesting method for beginners guides Here's roughly how to do something you don't know anything about, write us a guide once you've figured it out. It sounds like I'm being sarcastic, but it might actually work...! Best way to learn is to teach. LOL I have an empathy with real beginners anyway it seems, and will be glad to try to get something together. One delaying factor just now - I have gotten a (non pc type) virus which I am speaking sternly to. I could write up some guides for different clients if that would be beneficial? Might be bigger in scope than the UK wiki pages. Martin This sounds like a very good idea to me. It would be useful to have a central reference location or link etc because dispersed information is ok for experienced users but is very difficult for real beginners. -- alan c -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UKTeam Meetings Minutes
Nik Butler wrote: Help. How do I get to begin to use IRC? I have been very much email oriented in my experience. I have used instant messenger literally once or twice, but never IRC. A few initial pointers would be appreciated. Okay im dropping in here to be both Considerate and Helpful if I can . Install XChat ( it available in the Package lists ) joining IRC is not to difficult since your going to need to know where we are so you need to know two things , the Network is Freenode and the channel onthat network is #ubuntu-uk [...] http://ubuntu-uk.org/ http://www.ubuntu.com/support/free Follow up: I easily installed xchat and when subsequently looking for it in the Kmenu that Konversation (IRC) existed there. I could not see any reference or instance of xchat - I am using Kubuntu at this point. Maybe xchat needs the gnome desktop. Anyway having actually noticed Konversation (IC) it was very easy to use indeed. It comes (in dapper) preset with freenode, and #kubuntu channel, and then adding #ubuntu-uk was also easy, so I dipped a toe into IRC, thanks. I also run ubuntu so I will look at that too. -- alan c -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
