Re: [ubuntu-uk] Command line editing

2006-10-31 Thread alan c
Keith Bowerman wrote:
> Thanks to Andy, Baza and Matthew for your help.
> 
> I used the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg suggestion and now have a
> desktop with my own choice of screen resolutions.

Well done.
Can you say what the PC model is etc? it may help to give pointers to
others?
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Screencasting was: for those unsure how to get on to irc..

2006-10-31 Thread Dean Sas
Nik Butler wrote:
> 6. someone write it up ( baggsy ! ) and someone posts a small fridge 
> article ( Mr Sladen , can anyone post to the fridge ? )
> 

Anyone can write things, but only the editors [0] can post them. To get 
your story considered you can email it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dean

[0] https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-fridge


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[ubuntu-uk] The First Stab at our Approval Page.

2006-10-31 Thread Nicholas Butler
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ApprovalApplication

I started to do this and then got distracted by Jonos Manly Bear Hug ! ( 
dont ask ! ) . Anyway before I go searching on content for the 
experience section I thought I would just ask the group to consider any 
experiences or roadmap issues you feel we should be adding and I will go 
ahead and edit the page. We need to submit this threedays before the 
next Community Council Meeting is held. I will add links and pointers as 
much as possible in the next couple of days.


Cheers

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Screencasting was: for those unsure how to get on to irc..

2006-10-31 Thread Alan Pope
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 09:18:29PM +, Nicholas Butler wrote:
> The next thing that occurs to me about the screencasts is .
> Will it be possible to amend the Audio channels  to enable Loco Teams to 
> translate the audio for another country ?
> 

Yup.

Not sure it makes sense when all the GUI is in English though.

But yes, you could (for example) make an audio recording (in the same way I do) 
of the same 
length then just use the script to replace the audio track with yours. No probs.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Screencasting was: for those unsure how to get on to irc..

2006-10-31 Thread David Morley
On 31/10/06, Nicholas Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The next thing that occurs to me about the screencasts is .
> Will it be possible to amend the Audio channels  to enable Loco Teams to
> translate the audio for another country ?
>
It would be if they request the source which as far as I know from irc
is audacity audio and the screencast .ogg put together in unison


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Screencasting was: for those unsure how to get on to irc..

2006-10-31 Thread Nicholas Butler
The next thing that occurs to me about the screencasts is .
Will it be possible to amend the Audio channels  to enable Loco Teams to 
translate the audio for another country ?

Nik

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Screencasting was: for those unsure how to get on to irc..

2006-10-31 Thread David Morley
 1. The ubuntu UK team meet and decide that screen casts will be a
> benefit to show new users around
> 2. we discuss the issues and alan and others take time to work out
> what can be done
> 3. a video is produced ( well done President Pope )
> 4. new users watch it and benefit from it.
> 5. we can see the effective workings of a community idea
> 6. someone write it up ( baggsy ! ) and someone posts a small fridge
> article ( Mr Sladen , can anyone post to the fridge ? )
>
This is something I've wanted to do for a long while but some of the
tools available at the moment aren't that reliable :(  but count me in
for sure.  If I can do it I will:)


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Screencasting was: for those unsure how to get on to irc..

2006-10-31 Thread Alan Pope
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 06:47:41PM +, Nik Butler wrote:
> Awesome!
> 

 \o/.oO( Yay! )
 ( )
 |'|

Can someone do a couple of open office impress slide for us?

One that basically says who we are and some URLs, logos and suchlike. It needs 
to leave room for 
the Subject of the talk, the name of the person who made the talk and their own 
email and/or 
website details.

If someone could create something then whoever creates a screencast can record 
an ogg of say 10 
seconds of each, one for the start, and one for the end of the video.

I am thinking some kind of creative commons licence would be appropriate also.

Anyone fancy that?

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Screencasting was: for those unsure how to get on to irc..

2006-10-31 Thread Nik Butler
Norman Silverstone wrote:
> That was most instructive and what an excellent way to demonstrate how
> to do things with Ubuntu.


1. The ubuntu UK team meet and decide that screen casts will be a 
benefit to show new users around
2. we discuss the issues and alan and others take time to work out 
what can be done
3. a video is produced ( well done President Pope )
4. new users watch it and benefit from it.
5. we can see the effective workings of a community idea
6. someone write it up ( baggsy ! ) and someone posts a small fridge 
article ( Mr Sladen , can anyone post to the fridge ? )

Or in otherwords

Awesome!



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[ubuntu-uk] Command line editing

2006-10-31 Thread Keith Bowerman
Thanks to Andy, Baza and Matthew for your help.

I used the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg suggestion and now have a
desktop with my own choice of screen resolutions.

Keith


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Command line editing

2006-10-31 Thread Paul Sladen
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Keith Bowerman wrote:
> I wonder if someone brighter than me could help this old codger.  I
> installed Dapper on a new machine but the screen resolution was no
> better than 640x480 and with a 19" monitor it was like being at the
> pictures.

We try to probe the monitor to see what resolutions to the screen can
display.  If that data is duff, we have to fallback to the lowest resolution
possible.

You can override the auto-detected capabilities:

  HorizSync 30-95
  VertRefresh 50-160

in the "Monitor" section found in:

  /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Hope that helps, let us know if it's still not working!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Screencasting was: for those unsure how to get on to irc..

2006-10-31 Thread Alan Pope
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 04:40:44PM +, Tony Arnold wrote:
> That is really brilliant! As I've not really used IRC much before, I
> actually learned a few things too!
>

That worked then :)

Thanks very much.

> > * Run xwininfo to find out the xwindows window-id of the qemu window
> 
> Presumably this ID is fed to recordmydesktop?
> 

Yes.

For example in one terminal I type this:-

$ qemu -hda edgyxchat.qcow -net nic -net user -m 512 -soundhw all

Then, once it's running elsewhere I run xwininfo and then when prompted
click on the qemu window. This is the result:-

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xwininfo 

xwininfo: Please select the window about which you
  would like information by clicking the
  mouse in that window.

xwininfo: Window id: 0x323 "QEMU"

  Absolute upper-left X:  651
  Absolute upper-left Y:  51
  Relative upper-left X:  5
  Relative upper-left Y:  24
  Width: 1024
  Height: 768
  Depth: 24
  Visual Class: DirectColor
  Border width: 0
  Class: InputOutput
  Colormap: 0x32c (not installed)
  Bit Gravity State: ForgetGravity
  Window Gravity State: NorthWestGravity
  Backing Store State: NotUseful
  Save Under State: no
  Map State: IsViewable
  Override Redirect State: no
  Corners:  +651+51  -5+51  -5-231  +651-231
  -geometry 1024x768-0+27

Then I run recordmydesktop like this:-

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ recordmydesktop --nosound -windowid 0x323 
Initial recording window is set to:
X:651   Y:51Width:1024Height:768
Adjusted recording window is set to:
X:650   Y:50Width:1024Height:768
Initializing...
Capturing!
 

At this point it's now recording. I go to the qemu window (or indeed whatever 
window I am 
recording) and do the demo. When finished I flick back to the recordmydesktop 
window and hit 
CTRL+C and this happens..
  
Done.
Written 96797 bytes
(96797 of which were video data and 0 audio data)

Shutting down..
Goodbye!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 

Job done.

> > * Run recordmydesktop specifying the option to NOT record audio.
> 
> Is that because the sound recording int recordmy desktop is poor or is
> it a human interaction thing?
> 

In a nutshell, the latter. I find it hard enough to steer the mouse, take in 
all the 
dialogs, think about what I'm going to say without the extra hassle of actually 
saying it.

When I later recorded the audio I made numerous mistakes. So the ability to 
edit the audio in a 
simple audio editor like audacity, or in my case, just restart recording again, 
was beneficial. 
Given the lack of decent video editors on Linux I figured this would be a 
prudent decision.

Don't get me wrong though, I am not saying the audio has to be perfect, but it 
certainly helps 
to be understood if you're not "uhm"-ing and "ahhm"-ing all the time whilst 
recording.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Screencasting was: for those unsure how to get on to irc..

2006-10-31 Thread Norman Silverstone

> Alternatively you can watch a video about it :)
> 
> "I made this"
> 
> http://quickones.org/videos/20061031_xchat.ogg

That was most instructive and what an excellent way to demonstrate how
to do things with Ubuntu. I do hope someone could use the technique to
make other instructive videos such as use of the terminal.

Thanks for the lesson.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Screencasting was: for those unsure how to get on to irc..

2006-10-31 Thread Tony Arnold
Alan,

Alan Pope wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 10:43:17AM +, David Morley wrote:
>> for those unsure how to get on to irc here is a short how-to
>> www.davmor2.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/gaimopen.html
>>
> 
> Alternatively you can watch a video about it :)
> 
> "I made this"
> 
> http://quickones.org/videos/20061031_xchat.ogg

That is really brilliant! As I've not really used IRC much before, I
actually learned a few things too!

> * Run xwininfo to find out the xwindows window-id of the qemu window

Presumably this ID is fed to recordmydesktop?

> * Run recordmydesktop specifying the option to NOT record audio.

Is that because the sound recording int recordmy desktop is poor or is
it a human interaction thing?

Regards,
Tony.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Command line editing

2006-10-31 Thread Andy
On 31/10/06, Keith Bowerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can remember what alterations I made but I have no idea
> how to edit the file from the command line.
>
> Can someone please point me in the right direction.

>From the command line type:
sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf

It is wise to cp the file somewhere and then if you damage it you can
always cp it back.

If this fails you can try:
sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
which should replace it with something that works (hopefully)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Command line editing

2006-10-31 Thread baza
On Tue, 2006-10-31 at 16:00 +, Keith Bowerman wrote:
> I wonder if someone brighter than me could help this old codger.  I
> installed Dapper on a new machine but the screen resolution was no
> better than 640x480 and with a 19" monitor it was like being at the
> pictures.  So I edited the xorg.conf file, but with disastrous results -
> no desktop! I can remember what alterations I made but I have no idea
> how to edit the file from the command line.
> 
> Can someone please point me in the right direction.

Hi, I know what that feels like, total bugger lol.

Try this, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg


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[ubuntu-uk] Screencasting was: for those unsure how to get on to irc..

2006-10-31 Thread Alan Pope
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 10:43:17AM +, David Morley wrote:
> for those unsure how to get on to irc here is a short how-to
> www.davmor2.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/gaimopen.html
> 

Alternatively you can watch a video about it :)

"I made this"

http://quickones.org/videos/20061031_xchat.ogg

It's 5 mins long and 9.8MiB in size and is in the lovely open OGG format so
should play on any Linux box. If you have a windows machine you want to play
it on then I'd suggest one of the following:-

a) Install Linux
or
b) Install the directshow filters [0] 

Here's what I did to make the video.

* Installed recordmydesktop, audacity and qemu 
* Created a disk image and installed ubuntu into it under qemu
* Did all necessary updates to the virtual machine but that's all - so it's
a basic install.
* Make a backup of the qemu disk image.
* Start qemu, practice run through of what I plan to record a few times -
this included installing and removing the software I planned to demo a few
times. 
* I also created a new user in the virtual machine under ubuntu so that
it would be "clean" and thus would be illustrative of a real session a
typical new user would experience.
* Run xwininfo to find out the xwindows window-id of the qemu window
* Run recordmydesktop specifying the option to NOT record audio.
* Switch to the qemu session, do the demo, when finished, kill
recordmydesktop.
* Play back the ogg to make sure it's okay and think about what I'll say
during the video.
* Run audacity and record myself talking whilst watching the video. I ended
up doing this a few times
* Mix the audio and video together using a script I found on the Fedora Wiki
[1]. It didn't work for gstreamer 0.10, being designed for gstreamer 0.8.
However the guys in #gstreamer (appropriately) on IRC helped me modify it. I
have put it online [2]. It takes 3 arguments - the wav audio, the ogg video
and an output file. After some CPU mashing you get a video with the audio
mixed in. It also compresses the video better than the default setting of
recordmydesktop so the result is a nice small video which is still watchable.
* Watch it, put it online.

Things it needs:-

* Better quality (and louder) audio.
* A header and footer slide to introduce the video and show contact details.
* Modification to the oggmix.sh script to automatically add the header/footer.

What else? Comments very welcome.

Cheers,
Al.

[0] - http://www.illiminable.com/ogg/
[1] - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ScreenCasting
[2] - http://bishop.popey.com/temp/oggmix.sh

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Command line editing

2006-10-31 Thread Matthew Saunders
On 31/10/06, Keith Bowerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have no idea how to edit the file from the command line.

log in to the text console as yourself.
type: sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
enter your password at the prompt

Once you have made the changes, press crtl+o to save, enter to accept
the filename.  Then ctrl+x to exit.

To test the changes, type:  startx

To exit X and return to command prompt, press: ctrl+alt+backspace
(literally kills the X server)  (only to be used for emergency use!!)

Hope this helps.  I have been playing with the xorg.conf file today to
get my two screens working.

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[ubuntu-uk] Command line editing

2006-10-31 Thread Keith Bowerman
I wonder if someone brighter than me could help this old codger.  I
installed Dapper on a new machine but the screen resolution was no
better than 640x480 and with a 19" monitor it was like being at the
pictures.  So I edited the xorg.conf file, but with disastrous results -
no desktop! I can remember what alterations I made but I have no idea
how to edit the file from the command line.

Can someone please point me in the right direction.

Many thanks,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UKTeam Meetings Minutes

2006-10-31 Thread Laura Cowen
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2006, Nik Butler wrote:
>> 3. We need to post a story to the Fridge and if we can locate one of
>> those end of show piccies ( Laura ? Tony ? Alan(s) ?
>
> Yes, yes, yes.  Especially if somebody sends me the photos---and after
> that
> if anyone has any extra time to note down the first 3 best/worst moments
> of
> the show I try to expand those to something better.
>
>   -Paul

The photos from my camera are online at:
http://gallery.tonywhitmore.co.uk/linuxexpo_oct_2006

Including pics of people-lying-on-the-floor-to-recreate-Edgy-logo and some
of the Maori warriors.

I took them so feel free to use them.

Cheers,

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[ubuntu-uk] for those unsure how to get on to irc..

2006-10-31 Thread David Morley
for those unsure how to get on to irc here is a short how-to
www.davmor2.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/gaimopen.html

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Edgy and jmicron IDE controller

2006-10-31 Thread Neil Greenwood
Hi Adam,

> When this bug is fixed, would we be right in assuming that a new version of
> Edgy would be availible to download, or would he have to wait until edgy+1?

Either could happen. As I understand it, release of a new version of
edgy depends on how many bugs are fixed and how serious they are. A
new dapper has been released, but then again, it's LTS so it's a
different kettle of fish as they say.

After the bug is fixed and released, you could customise a live CD
which replaces the buggy package, burn it to disk and try that. The
process isn't too hard if you're not scared of the command-line, and
there's a wiki page which has a good step-by-step guide for dapper at
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e06

HTH
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UKTeam Meetings Minutes

2006-10-31 Thread alan c
Jonathan Roberts wrote:
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>>hmmm right out of the batting cage  I can see how if we can create
>>screencast tutorials  for these sort of things and then use things like
>>googleTube and the Wikis its going to boost awareness.. but yes please
>>...even from me !
> 
> 
> Just interested to know if you guys have heard of ubuntuclips.org? It
> plays host to community contributed short video clips demonstrating
> Ubuntu features and how to accomplish basic tasks for those new to it.
> Think any screencasts prepared should also get posted to there!?

I think, yes, if possible. It would help the focus of information for
newcomers. If they are from a winworld, they will be used to being run
down fairly narrow channels. Initially the Linux world can be very
confusing.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UKTeam Meetings Minutes

2006-10-31 Thread Jonathan Roberts
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>...even from me !


Just interested to know if you guys have heard of ubuntuclips.org? It
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Ubuntu features and how to accomplish basic tasks for those new to it.
Think any screencasts prepared should also get posted to there!?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] screencast software

2006-10-31 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 08:03:14PM +, alan c wrote:
> presumably the host OS and the app have to be fully running so an
> install sequence needs special approaches?

Depends how you do the recording. I'm in the middle of writing up how you do
it, will let you know when it's done.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Newcomer to ubuntu - some questions.

2006-10-31 Thread alan c
Andrew Price wrote:
> On 30/10/06 14:03, John wrote:
>> 1. How can I get verbose boot messages back?
> The only way I know that solves this problem is removing the 'quiet'
> option from the kernel boot options (either editing the command in grub
> every time you boot or poking a stanza in /boot/grub/menu.lst to make it
> permanent)
> 
> I think it's a pity they removed the boot messages to be honest. After
> using Linux for a while it's frustrating to not know what my computers
> are doing as they boot. It's one of the things I dislike about Windows
> and now it's made its way into Ubuntu :/

I also see this, but I think the upside might be (and maybe the
intention too?) that someone coming in off the windows street will
feel absolutely comfortable with this. Ask a person out there if they
use a computer, and if they say 'yes' they mean 'windows'. They have
no concept yet that the computer is different from windows.
Ubuntu can be that concept.

I would prefer a little more indication of activity on some occasions
- I use a lot of old slow computers.
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