Re: [ubuntu-uk] acronyms?

[Sean Miller]

Nik Butler wrote:
> Llywelyn Owen wrote:
>   
>> By the way these are not acronyms they're abbreviations. Sorry to be 
>> so pedantic!
>> 
> you know what . he is correct as well , they are Abbreviations, and it 
> is being pedantic. Though for the record im being ironic . ( i think!  )
>   
ac?ro?nym /??kr?n?m/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled 
Pronunciation[*ak*-r/uh/-nim] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
--noun
1.  a word formed from the initial letters or groups of letters of words 
in a set phrase or series of words, as /Wac/ from /Women's Army Corps,/ 
/OPEC/ from /Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries,/ or /loran/ 
from /long-range navigation./


So, how precisely can JFDI and LW2A be said to not be acronyms?

Abbreviations would be "jus'fuind'it" or the like, surely?

Sean

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

[Chris Bannister]

On 06/11/06, Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I will just ask one more question, after all I said I am still receiving 
> mail. Why

Have you followed the link at the bottom if each mail and unsubcribed?

https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk and scroll right
to the bottom.

You should recieve an email asking you to confirm the unsubscription
and that should be the last mail you get from the list.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

[Bill Smith]

Ian wrote:
> I will just ask one more question, after all I said I am still 
> receiving mail. Why
>  
>  
>  
>  
> /---Original Message---/
>  
> /*From:*/ John K Masters 
> /*Date:*/ 06/11/2006 19:08:28
> /*To:*/ ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com 
> /*Subject:*/ Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)
>  
> On Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 12:49:20PM GMT, Andy  wrote:
> >
> > I made a stupid mistake I openly admit that, I should have not said
> > anything, I should have been more welcoming, I am sorry for my
> > transgressions. Splitting or 'forking' the group due to the stupid
> > actions of one person (me) is not going to benefit Ubuntu-UK is it?
> >
>
>   
>   
>
> 
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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> 17:30
>   
Perhaps someone hates you ?
smile

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

[Ian]

I will just ask one more question, after all I said I am still receiving mail. Why
 
 
 
 
---Original Message---
 

From: John K Masters
Date: 06/11/2006 19:08:28
To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)
 
On Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 12:49:20PM GMT, Andy  wrote:
>
> I made a stupid mistake I openly admit that, I should have not said
> anything, I should have been more welcoming, I am sorry for my
> transgressions. Splitting or 'forking' the group due to the stupid
> actions of one person (me) is not going to benefit Ubuntu-UK is it?
>







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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Connect an xbox to ubuntu

[STONE COLD]

interesting...ill try this!! cheers matey


>From: Rob Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: British Ubuntu Talk 
>To: British Ubuntu Talk 
>Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Connect an xbox to ubuntu
>Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:38:32 +
>
>STONE COLD wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Ive connected my xbox to my pc via an ethernet. How can i set this 
>network
> > up? there doesnt seem to be "network wizard" kind of utility in ubuntu.
> >
> > All i want to do is be able to watch my media on my tv via the xbox and 
>xbox
> > media centre.
> >
> > Help please? newbie here!
> >
> > Javad
> >
>Is it connected via a router or switch or by just a cable between the
>two machines?
>
>A simple way of sharing your folders is to goto System -> Administration
>-> Shared Folders.
>
>In the box that appears click Add.  When the Share Folder box appears
>select the path (I think it defaults to your home directory), make sure
>Share Through is set to Windows Networks (SMB) and then enter a name for
>the share.
>
>  From the xbox end you need to choose SMB share I think, it has been a
>while since I browsed shares from the Xbox, I altered my
>xboxmediacenter.xml file to point to the shares on my PC & server.
>
>Rob
>
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Connect an xbox to ubuntu

[STONE COLD]

its connected via a cable..not streaming it...ive pinged the xbox..and it 
comes back so i know its connected...but i dont know how to look for files 
on the pc from the xbox! its not a 360!!


>From: "Glenn J. Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: British Ubuntu Talk 
>To: British Ubuntu Talk 
>Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Connect an xbox to ubuntu
>Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:36:49 +
>
> > > Ive connected my xbox to my pc via an ethernet. How can i set this 
>network
> > > up? there doesnt seem to be "network wizard" kind of utility in 
>ubuntu.
> > Cool , im doing this, how familiar will you be with Samba and FTP ? I'll
> > post more later when Im not cooking dinner !
>
>I've got an Xbox running XBMC (media centre) and hooked up to my local
>network -- I stream music and video from a Linkstation NAS (running
>Debian) using Samba, although XBMC also supports DAAPD audio (aka
>iTunes), UPNP video and (apparently -- haven't tried) FTP streaming too.
>
>But if, as I suspect, you're trying to stream video to an Xbox 360, well
>I just don't know.  Helpful, no?  :-)
>
>/me ponders about whatever happened to the Indrema "Dream" console...
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] acronyms?

[Nik Butler]

Llywelyn Owen wrote:
> By the way these are not acronyms they're abbreviations. Sorry to be 
> so pedantic!
you know what . he is correct as well , they are Abbreviations, and it 
is being pedantic. Though for the record im being ironic . ( i think!  )

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Connect an xbox to ubuntu

[Rob Beard]

STONE COLD wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Ive connected my xbox to my pc via an ethernet. How can i set this network 
> up? there doesnt seem to be "network wizard" kind of utility in ubuntu.
>
> All i want to do is be able to watch my media on my tv via the xbox and xbox 
> media centre.
>
> Help please? newbie here!
>
> Javad
>   
Is it connected via a router or switch or by just a cable between the 
two machines?

A simple way of sharing your folders is to goto System -> Administration 
-> Shared Folders.

In the box that appears click Add.  When the Share Folder box appears 
select the path (I think it defaults to your home directory), make sure 
Share Through is set to Windows Networks (SMB) and then enter a name for 
the share.

 From the xbox end you need to choose SMB share I think, it has been a 
while since I browsed shares from the Xbox, I altered my 
xboxmediacenter.xml file to point to the shares on my PC & server.

Rob



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Connect an xbox to ubuntu

[Glenn J. Mason]

> > Ive connected my xbox to my pc via an ethernet. How can i set this network 
> > up? there doesnt seem to be "network wizard" kind of utility in ubuntu.
> Cool , im doing this, how familiar will you be with Samba and FTP ? I'll 
> post more later when Im not cooking dinner !

I've got an Xbox running XBMC (media centre) and hooked up to my local
network -- I stream music and video from a Linkstation NAS (running
Debian) using Samba, although XBMC also supports DAAPD audio (aka
iTunes), UPNP video and (apparently -- haven't tried) FTP streaming too.

But if, as I suspect, you're trying to stream video to an Xbox 360, well
I just don't know.  Helpful, no?  :-)

/me ponders about whatever happened to the Indrema "Dream" console...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] acronyms?

[Llywelyn Owen]

By the way these are not acronyms they're abbreviations. Sorry to be so pedantic!On 04/11/06, Sean Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:Never seen these acronyms before... I have had a thought and wonder if they're...-- Hwyl/RegardsLlywelyn Owen
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Connect an xbox to ubuntu

[STONE COLD]

ive done all that...i can see the network tools screen you mention but none 
of it makes any sense to me!!!
Although it does me this in the ip info:

ipv4 127.0.0.1255.0.0.0
ipv6 ::1128host


http://by116fd.bay116.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/compose?type=r&msg=1B3E82E5-FE9D-4361-B5EF-CF7B89079B95&start=0&len=3124&curmbox=%2d%2d%2d%2d0001&a=3e46ae10b3f2a741300a0ae95d52d531427945c387f86d7bee1636adff01f814#

>From: "David Morley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: British Ubuntu Talk 
>To: "British Ubuntu Talk" 
>Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Connect an xbox to ubuntu
>Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 20:24:18 +
>
>On 06/11/06, STONE COLD  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Ive connected my xbox to my pc via an ethernet. How can i set this 
>network
> > up? there doesnt seem to be "network wizard" kind of utility in ubuntu.
> >
> > All i want to do is be able to watch my media on my tv via the xbox and 
>xbox
> > media centre.
> >
> > Help please? newbie here!
> >
>Goto System/Administration/Network Tools
>
>You can stop the network set it to whatever then start the network again.
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Connect an xbox to ubuntu

[STONE COLD]

Nik

Im not familiar with either of them..so im hoping maybe you can provide a 
walkthrough as to how to set it up ? :)

>From: Nik Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: British Ubuntu Talk 
>To: British Ubuntu Talk 
>Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Connect an xbox to ubuntu
>Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:23:04 +
>
>STONE COLD wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Ive connected my xbox to my pc via an ethernet. How can i set this 
>network
> > up? there doesnt seem to be "network wizard" kind of utility in ubuntu.
> >
> >
>Hello Stone,
>
>Cool , im doing this, how familiar will you be with Samba and FTP ? I'll
>post more later when Im not cooking dinner !
>
>Nik
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Connect an xbox to ubuntu

[David Morley]

On 06/11/06, STONE COLD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Ive connected my xbox to my pc via an ethernet. How can i set this network
> up? there doesnt seem to be "network wizard" kind of utility in ubuntu.
>
> All i want to do is be able to watch my media on my tv via the xbox and xbox
> media centre.
>
> Help please? newbie here!
>
Goto System/Administration/Network Tools

You can stop the network set it to whatever then start the network again.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Connect an xbox to ubuntu

[Nik Butler]

STONE COLD wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Ive connected my xbox to my pc via an ethernet. How can i set this network 
> up? there doesnt seem to be "network wizard" kind of utility in ubuntu.
>
>   
Hello Stone,

Cool , im doing this, how familiar will you be with Samba and FTP ? I'll 
post more later when Im not cooking dinner !

Nik


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[ubuntu-uk] Connect an xbox to ubuntu

[STONE COLD]

Hi,

Ive connected my xbox to my pc via an ethernet. How can i set this network 
up? there doesnt seem to be "network wizard" kind of utility in ubuntu.

All i want to do is be able to watch my media on my tv via the xbox and xbox 
media centre.

Help please? newbie here!

Javad



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[ubuntu-uk] Uk Loco team forums

[Matthew East]

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> style front end onto mailman? It already holds archives of every
> message made to the list. If we use a front end to mailman it will not
> be a separate communication, the group will not be divided.

This is already done for the ubuntu-users mailing list - see
http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=6

In my view this is an absolute precondition to opening a British forum.

Matt
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

[John K Masters]

On Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 12:49:20PM GMT, Andy  wrote:
> 
> I made a stupid mistake I openly admit that, I should have not said
> anything, I should have been more welcoming, I am sorry for my
> transgressions. Splitting or 'forking' the group due to the stupid
> actions of one person (me) is not going to benefit Ubuntu-UK is it?
> 
> I will ensure that I will not make this mistake again, do you believe
> in giving people a second chance, if so I ask for that second chance.
> 
> I think we can all agree I should not have done what I did so can we
> drop it now and move on with more important things, this has grown out
> of proportion.
> 
> 
I think that's quite enough grovelling. :)

> Although it has been requested that the subject of forums be dropped,
> I was thinking (yes dangerous I know), is it possible to build a forum
> style front end onto mailman? It already holds archives of every
> message made to the list. If we use a front end to mailman it will not
> be a separate communication, the group will not be divided. (Mailman
> it written in python, which I have yet to get around to learning, its
> on my todo list though, but things seem to rarely get done of my
> todos).
> 
I do believe there is something of the sort but:
a) It's commercial
b) It's expensive
c) I can't remember what it's called

> Let this be an end to this matter, please.
> 
> - Andy
> 
I'll second that.

> (I meant to send this yesterday but my Internet connection decided to
> take a holiday, its has thankfully returned)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

[David Morley]

When I first joined the lug mailing list it was pointed out to me that
I made several mistakes first of these was top posting.

The reason is was given for this being wrong where put very simply.
When a conversation is in flow it is harder to understand (for
everyone else) what is being said when top posts are applied.  This is
partially because of the wonderful list sending a reply before a post.
 If however you add your comments under the original posters then it
makes far more sense to everyone reading it.

It was also put to me that you would listen to what someone said then
add your comments if you were in a room talking so why not treat the
list as though it were a transcript and therefore add your comments to
their rather than over.

>From then on in the only time I have ever top posted has been when
emailing a reply from my phone as it has no means of moving the post
down.  Then when I got home and could use my pc first thing I do is
appologise for top posting.  It is just more polite it also helps
highlight points.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] top posting row (was Uk Loco team forums)

[Andy]

On 05/11/06, Caroline Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ubuntu UK isn't actually recognised by the Ubuntu community council
> currently so if the forum community wanted to fork they can certainly do
> so. Your sheer weight of numbers should ensure you prevail.

Now that is really not helpful is it?
The approval is in the pipelines as far as I was aware.
The communication media is NOT the group.
Yes we have a mailing list
We also have an IRC channel. #ubuntu-uk on Freenode.

We have a launchpad group. 
And a wiki 

Do you suggest each of these is a separate competing group as it uses
a different medium?

> I'm becoming increasingly unimpressed by the regulars here.
regulars plural? Has someone cloned me, I am one person, do not hold
my actions against others.


I made a stupid mistake I openly admit that, I should have not said
anything, I should have been more welcoming, I am sorry for my
transgressions. Splitting or 'forking' the group due to the stupid
actions of one person (me) is not going to benefit Ubuntu-UK is it?

I will ensure that I will not make this mistake again, do you believe
in giving people a second chance, if so I ask for that second chance.

I think we can all agree I should not have done what I did so can we
drop it now and move on with more important things, this has grown out
of proportion.


Although it has been requested that the subject of forums be dropped,
I was thinking (yes dangerous I know), is it possible to build a forum
style front end onto mailman? It already holds archives of every
message made to the list. If we use a front end to mailman it will not
be a separate communication, the group will not be divided. (Mailman
it written in python, which I have yet to get around to learning, its
on my todo list though, but things seem to rarely get done of my
todos).

Let this be an end to this matter, please.

- Andy

(I meant to send this yesterday but my Internet connection decided to
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com - etiquette?

[Matthew East]

alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Does this list actually have any published etiquette, I would be
> interested to know, but have not seen it mentioned.

Guidelines here:

http://www.ubuntu.com/community/lists/etiquette

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[ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com - etiquette?

[alan c]

Does this list actually have any published etiquette, I would be
interested to know, but have not seen it mentioned.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Team Leader Vote

[alan c]

Pete Ryland wrote:
> On 05/11/06, alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Alan Pope wrote:
>> > On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 01:57:17PM +, Pete Ryland wrote:
>> >> Currently, Nik Butler is doing a fantastic job as our interim leader.
>> > I do support Nik in his current "role" but do not feel that this is an 
>> > adequate way to vote.
>> >
>> > I suggest we leave Nik where he is, doing a damn fine job
>>
>> hear hear!
> 
> Well random "here here"s are even *less* formal! ;-)

Of course, but you may have missed the fact that is was I who
*seconded* Nik in the first place. If I get more  votes, then so be
it!   :-)

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[ubuntu-uk] 2006 Italian Linux Day - An idea for UK 'Ubuntu day'?

[alan c]

When I read this, I thought of - Ubuntu!

"2006 Italian Linux Day: A nationwide success"
http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/11/01/2048226

quote:
"The 2006 edition of Italian Linux Day on October 28 was the first in
the six-year history of the event to be celebrated in more than 100
cities in every corner of the country. The prime-time news program on
the main national TV channel TG1 spent almost two minutes on a story
about the event ("and they didn't even make mistakes!", a LUG activist
said)."
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dapper and Cups in a school environment

[Eamonn Sullivan]

On 11/6/06, Alistair Crust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Adding the printer is where I have problems. As soon as I finish the
> setup and click add printer the page asks me to upgrade or access
> the /admin via https. If this https has been complied out by the package
> maintainers upstream then why is it still asking me for https when
> adding a printer? It just doesn't make sense to me.

I know approximately zero about cups, but I do know there aren't any
licensing issues with https and that it's quite easy to set up an
SSL-enabled server. I use my own, with a MoinMoin wiki that I access
while at the office or on the road. There are a load of SSL tutorials
on the Web. This was on the first page on a google search:

http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/349

Apologies if I'm misunderstanding the question...

-Eamonn

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dapper and Cups in a school environment

[Alistair Crust]

On Mon, 2006-11-06 at 09:04 +, tim matthews wrote:
> firstly, let me say how great it is that your school is using open 
> source. that means that money not spent on commericial software, is 
> money saved by the school and can be spent for other things.

There should be something going on fridge soon. I had a guy from
canonical email me to take our case study I just need to get his some
pictures of our labs, and happy smiley people using it productively. All
the kids are happy with it, esp' at lunch when they swamp the labs to
play flash games online!

> from what I understand here, you want to use cups for some printers. 
> your setup is very well done (thin clients, great stuff). however, I did 
> find one limitation on ubuntu ... using cups.

I'm finding that out too.. If ubuntu wants to get into the enterprise
more, this will have to be addressed at some stage. Do I hear someone
say "Put an option on the server install cd to install a pre-configured
cups server.. email server, headless ltsp server etal" I would be more
than willing to test stuff out in this respect.

> Ubuntu expects you to use their panel interface for cups, not 
> http://localhost:661/. I found this out the hard way, if I had known it 
> would have only taken me five minutes to set up the printing on my 
> ubuntu box!
> maybe you might want to consider using the ubuntu server version .. 
> maybe then you could use cups itself through its webinterface?
> 
> just my guess ... anyway, let me know the solution !

I am in-fact using the dapper server, then installing cupsys cupsys-bsd
fommatic-filters-ppds etc etc

Adding Allow my.net.work.ip

to / and /admin in cupsd.conf has enabled the web interface. 

Up to this point is fantastic.

Adding the printer is where I have problems. As soon as I finish the
setup and click add printer the page asks me to upgrade or access
the /admin via https. If this https has been complied out by the package
maintainers upstream then why is it still asking me for https when
adding a printer? It just doesn't make sense to me.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dapper and Cups in a school environment

[tim matthews]

firstly, let me say how great it is that your school is using open 
source. that means that money not spent on commericial software, is 
money saved by the school and can be spent for other things.

from what I understand here, you want to use cups for some printers. 
your setup is very well done (thin clients, great stuff). however, I did 
find one limitation on ubuntu ... using cups.

Ubuntu expects you to use their panel interface for cups, not 
http://localhost:661/. I found this out the hard way, if I had known it 
would have only taken me five minutes to set up the printing on my 
ubuntu box!

maybe you might want to consider using the ubuntu server version .. 
maybe then you could use cups itself through its webinterface?

just my guess ... anyway, let me know the solution !

tim

Alistair Crust wrote:
> Hi,
>
> To fill you in I am from Skegness Grammar School an 800+ pupil school in
> Lincolnshire. We run Ubuntu Dapper as a thin client environment right
> throughout the school and use it to teach ALL curriculum lessons.
>
> Just recently we have had a few problems printing from the four LTSP
> servers we have. (we don't use edubuntu due to Local Disk Access,
> although in a few months we will be trying edgy on a test server. Anyway
> I digress). I think the reason is that we have the four app servers
> accessing the jetdirect enables printers directly insteed of on server
> managing all. We also would like to allow access to sertain printers
> from all machines but only from staff accounts, thus:
>
> My idea was to install a Dapper server and on it cupsys et al. Then
> administer via web (from a set number of machines, e.i. My office, staff
> room, anywhere the kids don't have access). 
>
> Problem is that the web interface is disabled by default.. not a problem
> I hear you cry. Wrong! after enabling the / and /admin sections via the
> cupsd.conf Allow directive the web site does indeed become accessible,
> problem is that when trying to add a printer the web interface is asking
> for an upgrade because I am not accessing it from https://. I know this
> is some kind of licence issue using ssl, but I don't want to use https.
> and even when I install openssl the thing still doesn't work. I have
> googled and there has been a few posts relating to my problem here but
> none that actually fix the problem, after trying the suggestions the
> trail just goes cold.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>   
>   

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[ubuntu-uk] Dapper and Cups in a school environment

[Alistair Crust]

Hi,

To fill you in I am from Skegness Grammar School an 800+ pupil school in
Lincolnshire. We run Ubuntu Dapper as a thin client environment right
throughout the school and use it to teach ALL curriculum lessons.

Just recently we have had a few problems printing from the four LTSP
servers we have. (we don't use edubuntu due to Local Disk Access,
although in a few months we will be trying edgy on a test server. Anyway
I digress). I think the reason is that we have the four app servers
accessing the jetdirect enables printers directly insteed of on server
managing all. We also would like to allow access to sertain printers
from all machines but only from staff accounts, thus:

My idea was to install a Dapper server and on it cupsys et al. Then
administer via web (from a set number of machines, e.i. My office, staff
room, anywhere the kids don't have access). 

Problem is that the web interface is disabled by default.. not a problem
I hear you cry. Wrong! after enabling the / and /admin sections via the
cupsd.conf Allow directive the web site does indeed become accessible,
problem is that when trying to add a printer the web interface is asking
for an upgrade because I am not accessing it from https://. I know this
is some kind of licence issue using ssl, but I don't want to use https.
and even when I install openssl the thing still doesn't work. I have
googled and there has been a few posts relating to my problem here but
none that actually fix the problem, after trying the suggestions the
trail just goes cold.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
  
-- 
Kind regards
Alistair Crust
Systems Administrator 
Skegness Grammar School 
Vernon Road 
Skegness 
PE25 2QS 
TEL: 01754 61 (ext'852)
FAX: 01754 896875 


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