Re: [ubuntu-uk] Aptitude dependency hell

2007-02-08 Thread Tony Arnold
James,

James Tait wrote:
 Hi Tony,
 
 Tony Arnold wrote:
 The packages it said were broken almost all of the installed ones!

 Something very wrong here or I'm missing something.

 Looks to me like I need to re-install.
 
 You can, if you wish, run aptitude interactively:
 
 $ sudo aptitude
 
 This will allow you to find the broken packages (press 'B' to move to
 the next broken package), view their dependencies (hit 'Enter' to view
 the package details and dependencies are listed there) and progressively
 fix the broken dependencies.  When there are no longer any broken
 packages, press 'G' to apply any changes and you'll be given a
 confirmation screen, where you should press 'G' again to continue, or
 'Q' to step back.  '?' will give you a help menu listing the various
 keyboard commands.
 
 I've had to do this a couple of times after upgrades that I messed up
 and it's effective, although whether it's better than just re-installing
 is debatable.  You don't lose your custom configuration and don't risk
 nuking your precious data, but it can be time consuming.

Thanks for the tip. Given aptitude is reporting 277 broken packages (!)
I think I will re-install at some time.

Also I looked at the first broken package which was gamin. It said it
conflicts with fam, but fam has been removed but its config files are
still around.

As I was writing the above, I tied purging package fam and now aptitude
is reporting zero broken packages! 277 broken packages to 0 by purging a
single package. Amazing!

Regards,
Tony.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-08 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 02/02/07, Benjamin Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Are there any OS graphics programmes? one of my students was asking.

 Two I know of are the GIMP and Inscape. Both seem pretty good to me,
 but then I don't know that much about graphics.

Sorry I'm late to the party on this thread! I somehow missed it until now.

Just to help Caroline out, that was meant to be 'Inkscape'.

It would help us to help you, Caroline, if you were more specific
about exactly what type of graphics program (s)he was after. Is it for
photo editing, animation, 3D rendering, etc. Good suggestions for most
of these have been posted to the thread.

And what sort of composing is your other student after? Does he need
to produce sheet music, or is it MIDI output that's needed? If the
former, lilypond produces excellent output, but it's command-line
driven from a (slightly) cryptic text file input. There are some GUIs
out there that help out - look for denemo (although there are bugs in
the one in the Ubuntu registry when producing piano scores: they've
been fixed if you compile the version from the website - ask and I can
help with more instructions, since I did it for my wife).
For MIDI output (or an alternative lilypond GUI), try rosegarden.
For audio editing, try audacity or jokosher (the latter being written
by Canonical's own Jono Bacon).

Hwyl,
Neil.

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[ubuntu-uk] Sound hardware suggestions

2007-02-08 Thread Andrew Black (delete obvious bit)
I wonder if anyone could suggest a sound card for use with a Edgy 
machine. Do they exist as USB connected - give me the flexibility to use 
on different machiens without taking apart.

My interersts are 
 - sampling audio input (Analogue - digital ) at high quality
 - playing sound (quality less inportant this way)
 - midi connection to keyboard


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sound hardware suggestions

2007-02-08 Thread Alan Pope
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 11:41:43AM +, Andrew Black (delete obvious bit) 
wrote:
 I wonder if anyone could suggest a sound card for use with a Edgy 
 machine. Do they exist as USB connected - give me the flexibility to use 
 on different machiens without taking apart.

Soundblaster Extigy. No longer sold, but I picked one up on ebay. I dont think 
they do Midi 
though.

Cheers,
Al.

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[ubuntu-uk] Posting to the Fridge? Interview with Mark Shuttleworth

2007-02-08 Thread Jonathan Roberts
Hi all,

Just thought I'd see if anyone here new how to get in touch with the
people over at the Fridge?!

Some of you might remember my podcast, with RMS, Jeremy Allison and
Jeff Waugh - well I'm just preparing the third episode (I have release
cycles like Debian!!) and Mark Shuttleworth is set to be the guest.
It's the same idea, i.e. YOU sending in questions and me putting them
to the guest, although this time I only have one guest because of
problems with time etc.

I'd quite like to get it posted to the Fridge because I guess lots of
Ubuntu users would be interested in this!? If anyone here would like
to ask a question to send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
or visit the website at http://questionsplease.org where you can find
more info and more ways to get in touch! :-D

Sorry for the shameless plugging - hope you find it of interest.

Cheers,

Jon

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Posting to the Fridge? Interview with Mark Shuttleworth

2007-02-08 Thread alan c
Jonathan Roberts wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Just thought I'd see if anyone here new how to get in touch with the
 people over at the Fridge?!
 
 Some of you might remember my podcast, with RMS, Jeremy Allison and
 Jeff Waugh - well I'm just preparing the third episode (I have release
 cycles like Debian!!) and Mark Shuttleworth is set to be the guest.
 It's the same idea, i.e. YOU sending in questions and me putting them
 to the guest, although this time I only have one guest because of
 problems with time etc.
 
 I'd quite like to get it posted to the Fridge because I guess lots of
 Ubuntu users would be interested in this!? If anyone here would like
 to ask a question to send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
 or visit the website at http://questionsplease.org where you can find
 more info and more ways to get in touch! :-D
 
 Sorry for the shameless plugging - hope you find it of interest.

I am sure there will be lots to talk about - also see
Canonical and Linspire Announce Technology Partnership
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104STORY=/www/story/02-08-2007/0004523131EDATE=

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[ubuntu-uk] kernel update marks as break - problem

2007-02-08 Thread alan c
I have just updated one of my older machines (kubuntu dapper) - there 
were about 20 or so updates I suppose. Following the activity I saw 
that the updates available marker was still showing.

This produces a notice that two items still need updating
linux image 386 and
linux restricted modules on 386

When I proceed with this update they both indicate something to be 
broken, and the update refuses.
Rebooting does not seem to change things

Is my database mixed up or must I live with a continuous indication of 
an impossible update?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] kernel update marks as break - problem

2007-02-08 Thread Jamie Dumbill
On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 18:34 +, alan c wrote:
 I have just updated one of my older machines (kubuntu dapper) - there 
 were about 20 or so updates I suppose. Following the activity I saw 
 that the updates available marker was still showing.
 
 This produces a notice that two items still need updating
 linux image 386 and
 linux restricted modules on 386
 
 When I proceed with this update they both indicate something to be 
 broken, and the update refuses.
 Rebooting does not seem to change things
 
 Is my database mixed up or must I live with a continuous indication of 
 an impossible update?
 
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 Kubuntu user#10391
 

There is a problem with the updates right now
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=356408


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sunday Times - In Gear and MS

2007-02-08 Thread London School of Puppetry

On 06/02/07, Llywelyn Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


There was a letter in the IN Gear supplement of last Sunday's edition
of Sunday Times where the correspondent was adopting Linux and wanted
some tips, Ubuntu was recommended. This was totally unexpected, I've
emailed the journalist concerned many times saying that he never
encouraged the use of open source, preferring instead to tow the MS
line and spending U$s.

I've thrown away the supplement so can't scan you a copy. So I tried
looking at  Sunday Times web site for a link - a link I could not find
- apparently the site's been redesigned. HOWEVER, there is a
Sponsored by Windows LIVE logo next to the search box - and guess
what it doesn't work, last night nor today! The site is also really
slow. WHAT A GREAT AD FOR MS! Oh, and some articles about DVDs not
working with Vista!

This better than beer.

Great! Caroline Lsp.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sunday Times - In Gear and MS

2007-02-08 Thread Paul Mellors
 Oh, and some articles about DVDs not working with Vista!

actually DVD's work fine in Vista Home Premium.

Cheers
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] gimp

2007-02-08 Thread Caroline Ford
London School of Puppetry wrote:


 On 06/02/07, Caroline Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  If you are running with kde libraries installed I'd recommend krita the
  kde bitmap editor as well.

 I really think the gimp is being oversold by the community in general.
 It is very badly designed and doesn't do 32 bit colour. The lack of 32
  bit colour led to the development of cinepaint, and the design problems
  are notorious. I read an online lecture on usability and all the
 examples of bad practice came from the gimp..

  The gimp is nothing like photoshop - sorry. I think we should aim high
  but photoshop is far superior. I've never used paintshop pro but it's
  not industry standard - it's for home users. The industry standard is
  photoshop. The gimp *can* do some things if you know how - but often not
  as well. The filters in particular are really gimmicky - it feels like
  it was designed for computer scientists not artists. /rant
  
 One thing we really need is an equivalent of poser - i can't think of a
  program I'd recommend for people wanting to do animations for something
  such as second life. Poser makes those sort of things relatively easy.
  
  Krita is using gimp format brushes which I think is a really positive
  step towards making a free software standard. Photoshop compatibility is
  pretty much the closed source standard. I currently make free content
  for tuxpaint and I'm pondering making content for the gimp now that
  better programs are using its standards too.
  
  Apparently filters for the gimp don't work across versions (unlike
  photoshop which has an api i think as other programs can use photoshop
  filters.) This may explain how poor most gimp filters are - based on
  maths not art, or so it seems. KDE are making a cross application
  standard for plugins which feels really positive. The kde graphics
  people seem to have really picked up all the problems with the gimp.
  Some people seem to treat the gimp as an iconic free software program -
  i think many of these people have never used anything better. I *know*
  we can do better than that - it's a real bugbear of mine!
  
  Caroline (secretlondon)

 I have been told that my computer is too slow to use gimp effectively. 
 What kind of power should I be looking at to run some of the 
 programmes you have been discussing here?

 Caroline lsp
What speed is your computer? If your computer is too slow to run the 
gimp then maybe you'd be better off running Xubuntu  rather than 
Ubuntu.  (Xubuntu uses Xfce rather than gnome and is designed for older 
hardware). However I think Xubuntu includes the gimp..

If you are short of RAM (not Mhz) you should probably avoid running 
Krita or Digikam under Ubuntu.

Bah - it's confusing! The whole thing collectively is generally known as 
Ubuntu - *and* the main variant is also called Ubuntu! Ubuntu's sisters 
are called Kubuntu (with kde rather than gnome), xubuntu (with xfce 
rather than gnome), and edubuntu (designed specifically for education)

Edubuntu (which is a type of ubuntu - the confusion!) uses gnome and has 
some kde libraries installed as it includes the kde edutainment package.

To make things easier! How fast and how much RAM does your computer 
have? Are you running edubuntu or ubuntu itself?

Caroline (secretlondon)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sunday Times - In Gear and MS

2007-02-08 Thread Daniel Watkins
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 actually DVD's work fine in Vista Home Premium.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Completely off topic

2007-02-08 Thread Freddie Ruddick
IMO, it would be much better to abolish road tax, and increase the tax
on fuel. That way, someone in an efficient car who gets over 50mpg,
needs less fuel, so pays less per mile than someone in a Chelsea
Tractor

On 08/02/07, Daniel Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No matter how 'environmentally friendly' your car is, it still pumps a
 load of crap into the atmosphere.

But some cars pump out more crap than others.

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