[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-UK Radio
Hiya All I'm interested in starting Ubuntu-UK Radio, a bit like Lugradio but being more specific to Ubuntu and projects in the UK. What are peoples thoughts about this? Has anyone started planning something like this as i don't want to step on anyones toes. If the general concensus is that it sounds like a good idea, i'll add it as a project on the Ubuntu-UK wiki and start planning it a little more. I've got lots of ideas but thought i'd get the approval of the community before i started doing anything else. Cheers Paul [VooDoo] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-UK Radio
paul mellors wrote: Hiya All I'm interested in starting Ubuntu-UK Radio, a bit like Lugradio but being more specific to Ubuntu and projects in the UK. What are peoples thoughts about this? Has anyone started planning something like this as i don't want to step on anyones toes. If the general concensus is that it sounds like a good idea, i'll add it as a project on the Ubuntu-UK wiki and start planning it a little more. I've got lots of ideas but thought i'd get the approval of the community before i started doing anything else. I like the idea, good luck with it. I listen to various linux related radio podcasts sometimes, and appreciate them. Although I suggest it is better if the policy could include the avoidance of language which may be offensive to some people. Linux is quality and the use of expletives on one or two stations easily gives the impression that the presenter/s do not have a good command of language, and gives a poor impression. -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Linux Survey (until 23rd March)
Martin Fitzpatrick wrote: On 14/03/07, Benjamin Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/03/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let Dell know what you want and how you want it! http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/corp/linux?s=corp -- Done - seen it on digg and someone raised a point - we just have to hope this isn't simply a ploy for getting better deals with microsoft Even if it is, it eats into Microsoft profits. I read that ms run the business with sufficient reserves to continue even if they had no income at all for a period of two years. -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Linux Survey (until 23rd March)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 15.03.2007 at 09:29 +, alan c wrote: Martin Fitzpatrick wrote: On 14/03/07, Benjamin Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/03/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let Dell know what you want and how you want it! http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/corp/linux?s=corp -- Done - seen it on digg and someone raised a point - we just have to hope this isn't simply a ploy for getting better deals with microsoft Even if it is, it eats into Microsoft profits. I read that ms run the business with sufficient reserves to continue even if they had no income at all for a period of two years. This gives an interesting slant on this that I had not considered before: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/03/14/1417245 One of the points made is that, under a Windows pre-install, various companies pay to have other software included (trial versions of Norton AV and so on) that have a net effect of subsidising the cost of the PC. One claim is that this is enough to counter-act the cost of the Windows OEM licence and, as a result, a Linux PC (or a no OS at all PC) will as a result be more expensive than a Windows PC. So, in hardware cost terms, it may still really be cheaper for customers who ultimately want Linux to just buy the Windows PC and then wipe off Windows, together with all the other trial software that includes. Interesting. Dave. - -- Dave Ewart - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - freenode: davee All email from me is now digitally signed, key from http://www.sungate.co.uk/ Fingerprint: AEC5 9360 0A35 7F66 66E9 82E4 9E10 6769 CD28 DA92 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFF+R0onhBnac0o2pIRAoY1AJ4733QBukmMj9Pz3wfZHcwxrn/P5gCgveAJ LEay24+eDNgiCNQwKvpIUuM= =64DK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Linux Survey (until 23rd March)
On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 10:17 +, Dave Ewart wrote: snip One of the points made is that, under a Windows pre-install, various companies pay to have other software included (trial versions of Norton AV and so on) that have a net effect of subsidising the cost of the PC. One claim is that this is enough to counter-act the cost of the Windows OEM licence and, as a result, a Linux PC (or a no OS at all PC) will as a result be more expensive than a Windows PC. So, in hardware cost terms, it may still really be cheaper for customers who ultimately want Linux to just buy the Windows PC and then wipe off Windows, together with all the other trial software that includes. /snip You have to ask why do these software companies want to do this. If machines were shipped with linux as an option their prospective target audience would dwindle. How long would it be before these companies got wise an started releasing their software for linux too. Just to claw back their target audience. This has the benefit of 1) forcing software vendors to look at support linux and 2) bringing down the cost of hardware just as it does with pre-installed windows. Did I hear someone say chicken or the egg? which came first? -- Kind regards Alistair Crust Systems Administrator Skegness Grammar School Vernon Road Skegness PE25 2QS TEL: 01754 61 (ext'852) FAX: 01754 896875 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Linux Survey (until 23rd March)
On Thursday, 15.03.2007 at 10:32 +, Alistair Crust wrote: On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 10:17 +, Dave Ewart wrote: snip One of the points made is that, under a Windows pre-install, various companies pay to have other software included (trial versions of Norton AV and so on) that have a net effect of subsidising the cost of the PC. One claim is that this is enough to counter-act the cost of the Windows OEM licence and, as a result, a Linux PC (or a no OS at all PC) will as a result be more expensive than a Windows PC. So, in hardware cost terms, it may still really be cheaper for customers who ultimately want Linux to just buy the Windows PC and then wipe off Windows, together with all the other trial software that includes. /snip You have to ask why do these software companies want to do this. If machines were shipped with linux as an option their prospective target audience would dwindle. How long would it be before these companies got wise an started releasing their software for linux too. Just to claw back their target audience. This has the benefit of 1) forcing software vendors to look at support linux and 2) bringing down the cost of hardware just as it does with pre-installed windows. Did I hear someone say chicken or the egg? which came first? Hmmm. Right now, though, even if I was buying a 'Linux desktop', I would be extremely likely to re-install the OS; partly paranoid, partly just to get it the way I like it. Any third-party apps would be lost via this route. Linux desktops/laptops are still, generally, for Linux enthusiasts and, although the number of normal users (!) using a Linux desktop/laptop may be increasing, they are still the minority. Server-side, things are a little different. I would like formal Debian support for servers, for example, but I probably wouldn't want the OS pre-installed there either... Dave. -- Dave Ewart - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - freenode: davee All email from me is now digitally signed, key from http://www.sungate.co.uk/ Fingerprint: AEC5 9360 0A35 7F66 66E9 82E4 9E10 6769 CD28 DA92 signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-UK Radio
I've been a radio techy and presenter at my local radio station for 4 years now and I was planning on starting up Ubuntu-UK Radio as well, I was holding off a bit to get some more ideas into my head but if you want to go along with the idea as well then maybe we could work together. On 15/03/07, paul mellors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiya All I'm interested in starting Ubuntu-UK Radio, a bit like Lugradio but being more specific to Ubuntu and projects in the UK. What are peoples thoughts about this? Has anyone started planning something like this as i don't want to step on anyones toes. If the general concensus is that it sounds like a good idea, i'll add it as a project on the Ubuntu-UK wiki and start planning it a little more. I've got lots of ideas but thought i'd get the approval of the community before i started doing anything else. Cheers Paul [VooDoo] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Linux Survey (until 23rd March)
Dave Ewart wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 15.03.2007 at 09:29 +, alan c wrote: Martin Fitzpatrick wrote: On 14/03/07, Benjamin Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/03/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let Dell know what you want and how you want it! http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/corp/linux?s=corp -- Done - seen it on digg and someone raised a point - we just have to hope this isn't simply a ploy for getting better deals with microsoft Even if it is, it eats into Microsoft profits. I read that ms run the business with sufficient reserves to continue even if they had no income at all for a period of two years. This gives an interesting slant on this that I had not considered before: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/03/14/1417245 One of the points made is that, under a Windows pre-install, various companies pay to have other software included (trial versions of Norton AV and so on) that have a net effect of subsidising the cost of the PC. One claim is that this is enough to counter-act the cost of the Windows OEM licence and, as a result, a Linux PC (or a no OS at all PC) will as a result be more expensive than a Windows PC. So, in hardware cost terms, it may still really be cheaper for customers who ultimately want Linux to just buy the Windows PC and then wipe off Windows, together with all the other trial software that includes. Yes, and this is the reason why I have generally made the point that it is compatible hardware - with linux friendly drivers - that is important, not so much the pre installation, or the support or lack of it from the vendor etc. (Although if pre installation did happen it is better in many ways) -- Kubuntu user#10391 Linux user #360648 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-UK Radio
On 15 Mar 2007, at 22:07, Colin McCarthy wrote: I would listen to a 'clean' Ubuntu-UK Radio Audiocast thingy. I don't listen to LUG Radio because I hate swearing (I get to hear enough at work) so a 'Cleancast' certainly has a market. Colin I'm not a shrinking violet, but I find the swearing on Lug Radio a real put off too. There's no need for it. You can make interesting radio without, I'd cite 'Off the Hook' as one example. I listen to Lug Radio, just wish they'd stop fecking swearing all the fecking shizzle time. - Site http://walkertopia.com Blog http://walkertopia.com/blog - -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-UK Radio
B wrote: On 15 Mar 2007, at 22:07, Colin McCarthy wrote: I would listen to a 'clean' Ubuntu-UK Radio Audiocast thingy. I don't listen to LUG Radio because I hate swearing (I get to hear enough at work) so a 'Cleancast' certainly has a market. Colin I'm not a shrinking violet, but I find the swearing on Lug Radio a real put off too. There's no need for it. You can make interesting radio without, I'd cite 'Off the Hook' as one example. I listen to Lug Radio, just wish they'd stop fecking swearing all the fecking shizzle time. I don't mind the swearing on LugRadio, they are just talking like they would with their mates, because they are. That said, it may not be to everyone's taste, and I understand why. Swearing in a Ubuntu-UK cast tho, may not be a great idea as it does put some people off, and we don't want to do that. Tez -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
