Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs
Alan Pope wrote: My local LUG meets are great fun. They are a tremendously social event with a lot of chat and general shooting the breeze. The tech stuff can get deep but it's not like you have to sit and talk to someone about the subtleties of one kernel config parameter over another, you can just go and talk to someone else if you're getting geeked at. LUGoG meetings are generally good fun and fairly light hearted... there's access to a kitchen and a kettle at the hall in which we meet, so it's all quite sociable... Whilst I've seen conflict on the e-mail list associated with the group (though rarely!) I've never seen conflict at the actual meetings... everybody gets on like a house on fire... (famous last words, the next will no doubt now descend into chaos on principle, lol!) The advantage that LUGoG has over e-mail mutual support lists is that people can actually bring their equipment to the meeting and people can help them fix their issues there and then... rather than saying type this... type that... it should say this... then type this and it will be fixed and get the reply but it didn't say that! it said 'failed to find library xxhdy1kdh3 in kernel module dhjsdh234gd.j34h1gd.4' etc. etc... things can be resolved there and then, or if not a member will volunteer to meet the person again (perhaps at home if, for example, it's a broadband issue that can't be replicated at the meeting) and it'll get sorted one way or another. Andrew Walrond, the creator of the Heretix distro, has been doing a lot of presentations lately at the more structured 2nd Tuesday meeting and they are of a very high quality. Demonstrating ways to share one's desktop over the web is useful too, because it means that people on the group can help out others on the group directly rather than in the aforementioned I suggest you do that style... can I just log into your machine, please, and take a look then I'll get back to you is far more constructive... the in person meetings help to build that trust that is likely to have a member say sure!... and then things move... Just my thoughts on this particular discussion. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk graphics
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 09:21 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote: Not really a turnaround. The trademark policy is quite clear on modifying the logo. http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy Those have been the same since at least 2005, probably longer. In which case nowt has changed then ;-) So there should be no problem with submitting modified graphics to Canonical for approval :-P You're not reading any of the links I've posted. At the above link, under Logo Standards, it explains in detail what Canonical would prefer you to do in relation to the logo, and that includes not modifying it except in the ways stipulated. So does Matthew's email that I linked to earlier in the thread. However, as we've all said on this thread already, Canonical are quite nice about the issue in general. These are intended to be guidelines, which we should follow, rather than some kind of dictatorial stance. I don't really see how this issue is complicated!! Matt -- http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 29/03/2007 02:02:16: On 29/03/07, Pete Ryland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a free (IIRC) event with a great mix of fun and energetic talks, social time, and stall information. Nope, not free. It costs, but you can email them and ask for a concession and if your reason is funny/odd enough, you get one. http://www.lugradio.org/live/2007/index.php/Register Let's put this into perspective. It's _not_ free, but the full ticket price is only £5, which might as well be free ;) The concession price is £3, and they've yet to refuse someone a concession if they've written in. International visitors do get in for free. mrben -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs
Quoting TheVeech [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There are way to many people (and this isn't specicially directed at you) in the UK standing by looking on saying that LUG is dead without actually getting off their arse and doing something about it. IMHO. You're right, though, and this has been my approach to LUGs. If the LUG really is dead, with the LUGMaster AWOL you can ask to take it over and if the members agree that's a good thing then off you go. I'll make them an offer they can't refuse. Just kidding. I'm no administrator, but it's worth looking into, if it is on its last legs. plug type=shameless href=http://www.thanet.lug.org.uk; It's worth giving it a poke. I gave Thanet LUG a poke before christmas, took over the running from the previous owner (who appeared to have disappeared off the face of the planet!) restarted the website (it's crap, but there we go!) and we had a meeting a few months back at which 6 people turned up and we're looking to have another meeting soon. I've attempted to document some of the steps I've taken in setting the LUG up on the blog on the website (very web 2.0!) so that may help you. /plug Cheers, Matt -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodies? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu-uk graphics
Hi Matt, However, as we've all said on this thread already, Canonical are quite nice about the issue in general. These are intended to be guidelines, which we should follow, rather than some kind of dictatorial stance. I don't really see how this issue is complicated!! Matt It's not complicated. I was only confused when you came into discussion with your first post saying: So, if redesigning the logo, please follow his guidelines. It sounded more like a directive than a suggestion, which lead me to believe that you where instructing me (given content of this thread, in which I was asking for feedback on a logo I'd created) to stay away from modifying the logo in the manner in which I had ... If I was wrong I apologise profusely, although I do remain somewhat confused as to the point of the entire conversation thus far! Kind Regards Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 08:48:21AM +0100, Ben Thorp wrote: Let's put this into perspective. It's _not_ free, but the full ticket price is only £5, which might as well be free ;) The concession price is £3, and they've yet to refuse someone a concession if they've written in. International visitors do get in for free. Compared with UKUUG events which can be quite expensive AIUI. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 20:47 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 08:28:08PM +0100, TheVeech wrote: But where is it written that people who disagree have to go at it hammer and tongues or descend into personal animosity? No doubt most of us have been there, but at least some of us learn from it. 'Growing up' is what I think it's called? :) I can't claim to be an innocent party here. I have taken part in flame wars on numerous lists. I'm not proud of that, and I try to temper my reactions and delay my negative replies (or run them past someone else first) to reduce me doing that. Too many fragile egos in too many areas, methinks. Like you suggest, a good admin/chair should be able to steer disputes towards some sort of civilised and productive debate. Maturity should do the rest. Where exactly are you from and how long are you staying with us here on planet Earth? :) LOL. I've fallen into the trap of getting involved in flame wars, too. I haven't devoted much time to thinking about this, but I've got a sneaking feeling that an over emphasis on anti-MS advocacy allows such ideas and feelings linger and leak into conversations between Linux users. We've got a much more positive message than much of the tracts that I've come across. I'd love to get it where much of the time spent hammering MS was spent on our software and our users. Most of the time, I couldn't care less what some corporation is doing. My software and users are better than theirs, so that's that. We even drew up some guidelines:- http://hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?MailingList/Tips Which I think are actually pretty damn good. Nobody reads them though, and those that do, many ignore it. Will read later. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 20:35 +0100, Stuart Parkington wrote: TheVeech wrote: I'd have thought they were a bit of a geekfest, not having been to one, but I'm probably way off the mark. Trouble is, the one for my neck of the woods is supposed to be active but its website hasn't been updated for a long time. These days, is it time better spent online? You don't say where you are. Worcestershire, although Birmingham is just as convenient. I'd even travel to London if necessary, seeing as though I've lived there, and could fit it in with a long weekend. Some areas have multiple LUGs, maybe one at the county level, and more at the City/Town level. I know Sussex has two, Hampshire has three LUGs, but often there is overlap between them. There is almost always co-operation between the LUGs, although in my opinion nowhere near enough of that. If your local LUG is dying, give it a poke on their mailing list, see what people have planned, and offer to help. Will do. I'm in Worcestershire and would be very happy to assist getting the Worcester LUG a little more active, it that is the one you were thinking of? I attempted the suggested 'poke' just before Christmas and got a little response. Unfortunately I've been snowed under since the New Year and thus have let the (very) small start I made melt away. We'll have to get in touch about this. I'll email you over the weekend. Stuart --- Linux #423936 Ubuntu #4500 --- IRC = Narrf | www.narrf.net --- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs
On 28/03/07, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no clue to be honest about what women would want out of a LUG meeting. We have a few women who regularly attend our LUG meets, and it would be great if we knew if there's anything specific they need. Women are people too! In general they want the same as any other LUG members, although security and a group that isn't too intimidating may be of greater importance. The following howto is well worth reading for more information though: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 11:26:23AM +0100, Lucy wrote: On 28/03/07, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no clue to be honest about what women would want out of a LUG meeting. We have a few women who regularly attend our LUG meets, and it would be great if we knew if there's anything specific they need. Women are people too! Heh, yes, sorry, wasn't implying we're getting aliens from Venus attending our meet and we don't want to poison them with the canapes. :) In general they want the same as any other LUG members, although security and a group that isn't too intimidating may be of greater importance. http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ Thanks, will read. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs
Lucy wrote: [SNIP] The following howto is well worth reading for more information though: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ Lucy Thanks for the link to Val Henson's paper - brilliant! - should be required reading for everyone. ::Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LUGs
On 29/03/07, I C McNab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lucy wrote: [SNIP] The following howto is well worth reading for more information though: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ Lucy Thanks for the link to Val Henson's paper - brilliant! - should be required reading for everyone. ::Ian No problem! I remember being very put off by the title the first time I saw it and nearly didn't read it, but was very glad I did. Alan, glad you took it as a joke, but you'll be surprised at how many people get confused ;) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Linux Survey (until 23rd March)
Nothing particularly new, but I notice the BBC have covered it. [0]. Freddie :) [0]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6506027.stm -- Yesterday it worked. Today it is not working. Windows is like that. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Kerrighed
Hey all, I've got a lot of old computers lying around and have been considering setting up an Ubuntu cluster. I've previously cheated doing this now and again and used OpenKnoppix, having got a PC with SATA hard drives, OpenMosix now doesn't suffice as I need the 2.6 kernel. Doing a bit of research I found Kerrighed and wondered if anyone has played with this in Ubuntu? Is it easy enough to manage and maintain or is it a right royal pain in the bum? Any tips? -Daubers (first post to this mailing list so I hope I got all the formalities right! Apologies if not) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
