Re: [ubuntu-uk] 2Wire Adapter
Rob Beard wrote: Apologies for the multiple posting there, my e-mail client had a funny turn! :-( Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Creating 'root' account. (sudo, recovery mode)
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Adam Funk wrote: I can think of one situation where you really need a root password set: booting in rescue mode. On a default Ubuntu with the root account locked, selecting (recovery mode) will drop one straight to a root shell, without requiring a password. The idea behind this is simple; the only time time that somebody really needs to do some form of recovery, is when the machine is in a very bad state. Handling a really broken machine/forgotten password is a stressful experience---the least that can be done is to optimise the recovery operation by getting a user what they need, fast and efficiently. If the user /has/ altered the default setting and set a root password, then selecting (recovery mode) will require that shared root password to be entered. The set root password can be disabled again with: sudo passwd -l -Paul -- Why do one side of a triangle when you can do all three. Helsinki, FI -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] find a file
I've always used locate by doing: sudo updatedb locate *.ick This can cause problems though as it will trawl everyones files. updatedb sometimes takes a little while to run, but then locate is very quick afterwards. On 06/08/07, Jim Kissel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil Greenwood wrote: On 06/08/07, Jim Kissel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: find /your/path/to/a/directory -name '*.lck' -print Find trawls the files system but appears to cache when re-run with a short (hours) time. I've ever used locate. It has a db where it 'locates' files. BTY, if you are using find on directories that you don't own, you may need to sudo find has the errors it produces when it doesn't have permission to read a directory can overwhelm the actual output of any search. I'm posting without testing, so I may be wrong. I wouldn't have thought that find would cache the results. It's probably the disk cache for the file system that speeds things up. I too believe it the file system/disk that is doing the caching. Never considered that anyone would splice a cache onto to find! Hwyl, Neil. -- Simple effective migration to Open Source based computing Jim Kissel Open Source Migrations Limited w: http://www.osml.eu e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44(0) 8703 301044 m: +44(0) 7976 411 679 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] DELL w/Ubuntu available in the UK
Canonical announced today that DELL machines are available in the UK, France and Germany. http://www.ubuntu.com/news/dell-available-in-europe Apparently the DELL site hasn't been updated yet. -- Dave Murphy - http://www.schwuk.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Creating 'root' account. (sudo, recovery mode)
On 2007-08-07, Paul Sladen wrote: On a default Ubuntu with the root account locked, selecting (recovery mode) will drop one straight to a root shell, without requiring a password. The idea behind this is simple; the only time time that somebody really needs to do some form of recovery, is when the machine is in a very bad state. Handling a really broken machine/forgotten password is a stressful experience---the least that can be done is to optimise the recovery operation by getting a user what they need, fast and efficiently. Isn't that a bit of a security hole? I realize that having physical access to a machine means that ultimately you could open it up and clear the BIOS password in order to boot from a live CD, but that takes a lot more time than just rebooting and picking recovery mode from the GRUB menu to get root access. Of course, the GRUB menu can be password-protected, but that goes against the stress-reducing theory of making it easy to get into rescue mode. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] DELL w/Ubuntu available in the UK
On 07/08/07, Josh Blacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I *was* going to build myself a desktop soon, but now I'm tempted to support this. Thanks for the heads up! On 8/7/07, Dave Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Canonical announced today that DELL machines are available in the UK, France and Germany. http://www.ubuntu.com/news/dell-available-in-europe Apparently the DELL site hasn't been updated yet. Looks like they'll be available to order from tomorrow (8th August). Shame the laptops aren't included yet... Hwyl, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] DELL w/Ubuntu available in the UK
On 07/08/07, Neil Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shame the laptops aren't included yet... Oops! I got that backwards - the Inspirons *are* the laptops, not the desktops! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] DELL w/Ubuntu available in the UK
On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 14:18 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote: On 07/08/07, Neil Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shame the laptops aren't included yet... Oops! I got that backwards - the Inspirons *are* the laptops, not the desktops! 1 laptop, 1 desktop. They both look very tasty too. I'll be ordering one. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] [SALES PITCH ]Dell hardware and Ubuntu.
[ SALES PITCH ] As many may already be aware Dell will be shipping Ubuntu preinstalled kit to the UK market. I am ( to the best of my knowledge ) uniquely positioned to have a very long term working and purchasing arrangement with Dell on behalf of all my customers. Depending on the models and volumes I can usually arrange a good margin on the order value ( read discount ). I will be posting some quotes and thoughts about this range tomorrow as well and if people are interested in a collective buying power position then I will be happy to mediate ( of course for a small percentage ) . Dell are really committed to supporting Ubuntu on their product lines and now is the opportunity to show an interest and a commitment to helping them deliver and generate a productive revenue stream in our market. I will of course be blogging about this as well and detailing any offers I can provide at the time , including how to buy and what sort of support we can expect in terms of hardware. Thanks for taking time to read and heres looking forward to tommorow when Freedom comes to the European and UK markets. Nik Butler -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [SALES PITCH ]Dell hardware and Ubuntu.
Nik, Thanks for making this offer. I'm not in the slightest opposed to you making a percentage if it means that I (we?) get a cheaper price than I could have gotten by going direct. One of the things I found irritating about the US Dell offer was that the PCs were the same price, whether they came with Vista or Ubuntu. Under those circumstances, the pragmatic thing most people new to Ubuntu would be tempted to do would be to buy a Vista PC, and install Ubuntu on it, either as a dual boot, or as an only O/S (but secure in the knowledge they had a Dell Vista restore disk to fall back on.) This may be the pragmatic thing to do, but it distorts the market figures, and makes Dell believe that there is a smaller Ubuntu market than there really is :-( There seem to be three reasons Dell might expect to charge the same price: 1: Bloatware on Windows. While we hate it, the revenue that Dell gets from it exceeds the Windows licencing cost, so that effectively the bloatware manufacturers are providing Windows for free for us :-) Now that Dell have reduced the amount of bloatware they ship, these economics are changing. 2: A belief that Ubuntu will be costly on the part of Dell to support, since they'll have to retrain staff in it. (My own experience of running IT teams, by the way, is that many of them, even in Windows-only work environments are linux users, and would jump at the chance to support linux in the office!) 3: A belief that many PCs sold with Linux end up with pirated copies of Windows installed on them. I'm afraid that I know many people who run pirated Windows, sometimes knowingly, sometimes in the belief that they've bought a legitimate licence from a computer fair! If you could impress upon your contacts at Dell that: - Ubuntu-UK is willing and able to provide technical support to people! - Many of us genuinely want a Linux PC, and not a set of Windows ready hardware :-) Regards, Mark Nik Butler wrote: [ SALES PITCH ] As many may already be aware Dell will be shipping Ubuntu preinstalled kit to the UK market. I am ( to the best of my knowledge ) uniquely positioned to have a very long term working and purchasing arrangement with Dell on behalf of all my customers. Depending on the models and volumes I can usually arrange a good margin on the order value ( read discount ). I will be posting some quotes and thoughts about this range tomorrow as well and if people are interested in a collective buying power position then I will be happy to mediate ( of course for a small percentage ) . Dell are really committed to supporting Ubuntu on their product lines and now is the opportunity to show an interest and a commitment to helping them deliver and generate a productive revenue stream in our market. I will of course be blogging about this as well and detailing any offers I can provide at the time , including how to buy and what sort of support we can expect in terms of hardware. Thanks for taking time to read and heres looking forward to tommorow when Freedom comes to the European and UK markets. Nik Butler -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] DELL w/Ubuntu available in the UK
This represents real progress - fantastic. Although I build my own desktop machines, finding an appropriate laptop to slap a distro on has always been difficult, now we might have a solution. Wonder how they're getting on with enabling all the features on the laptop though - power management etc - are there any caveats I wonder? Pete On 07/08/07, Darren Mansell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 14:18 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote: On 07/08/07, Neil Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shame the laptops aren't included yet... Oops! I got that backwards - the Inspirons *are* the laptops, not the desktops! 1 laptop, 1 desktop. They both look very tasty too. I'll be ordering one. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] DELL w/Ubuntu available in the UK
Only 329 squid for the laptop! That's very reasonable - I think I might be joining the Dell/Ubuntu club... :) Pete On 07/08/07, Pete Stean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This represents real progress - fantastic. Although I build my own desktop machines, finding an appropriate laptop to slap a distro on has always been difficult, now we might have a solution. Wonder how they're getting on with enabling all the features on the laptop though - power management etc - are there any caveats I wonder? Pete On 07/08/07, Darren Mansell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 14:18 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote: On 07/08/07, Neil Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shame the laptops aren't included yet... Oops! I got that backwards - the Inspirons *are* the laptops, not the desktops! 1 laptop, 1 desktop. They both look very tasty too. I'll be ordering one. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] DELL w/Ubuntu available in the UK
On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 15:37 +0100, Pete Stean wrote: Wonder how they're getting on with enabling all the features on the laptop though - power management etc - are there any caveats I wonder? Pete My Lenovo built for Windows laptop works fine with wifi/ACPI etc. so if they've had time to get the BIOS sorted for proper standards rather than the Microsoft HCT it should be fine. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] DELL w/Ubuntu available in the UK
On 8/7/07, Pete Stean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only 329 squid for the laptop! That's very reasonable - I think I might be joining the Dell/Ubuntu club... :) Pete Where did you get that figure? I can't seem to access any product pages yet. Unless you're going by 50% of the US price - in which case, we wish. -- Josh Blacker http://jerichokb.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [SALES PITCH ]Dell hardware and Ubuntu.
Nik Butler wrote: [ SALES PITCH ] As many may already be aware Dell will be shipping Ubuntu preinstalled kit to the UK market. I am ( to the best of my knowledge ) uniquely positioned to have a very long term working and purchasing arrangement with Dell on behalf of all my customers. Depending on the models and volumes I can usually arrange a good margin on the order value ( read discount ). I will be posting some quotes and thoughts about this range tomorrow as well and if people are interested in a collective buying power position then I will be happy to mediate ( of course for a small percentage ) . Dell are really committed to supporting Ubuntu on their product lines and now is the opportunity to show an interest and a commitment to helping them deliver and generate a productive revenue stream in our market. I will of course be blogging about this as well and detailing any offers I can provide at the time , including how to buy and what sort of support we can expect in terms of hardware. Thanks for taking time to read and heres looking forward to tommorow when Freedom comes to the European and UK markets. Nik Butler I will want a desktop soon to show support for the dell move, and in principle would be very happy to include you in the loop. -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [SALES PITCH ]Dell hardware and Ubuntu.
Hit the 'report spam' button in gmail... /joke I'm interested in getting a new desktop for/in september so count me in on this - does the offer extend to monitors and accessories when buying as well? I've only got my laptop at the moment so no peripherals. Cheers, On 8/7/07, Nik Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ SALES PITCH ] As many may already be aware Dell will be shipping Ubuntu preinstalled kit to the UK market. I am ( to the best of my knowledge ) uniquely positioned to have a very long term working and purchasing arrangement with Dell on behalf of all my customers. Depending on the models and volumes I can usually arrange a good margin on the order value ( read discount ). I will be posting some quotes and thoughts about this range tomorrow as well and if people are interested in a collective buying power position then I will be happy to mediate ( of course for a small percentage ) . Dell are really committed to supporting Ubuntu on their product lines and now is the opportunity to show an interest and a commitment to helping them deliver and generate a productive revenue stream in our market. I will of course be blogging about this as well and detailing any offers I can provide at the time , including how to buy and what sort of support we can expect in terms of hardware. Thanks for taking time to read and heres looking forward to tommorow when Freedom comes to the European and UK markets. Nik Butler -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- Josh Blacker http://jerichokb.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Migrating from MS Windows
Cheers Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Kissel Sent: 06 August 2007 22:21 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Migrating from MS Windows Ian Pascoe wrote: To add to Bill's list, how do you get the Windows key on a standard keyboard to open the menus on the Gnome desktop? (The windows key being the one located between the Alt and Ctrl keys on the bottom left of the keyboard) System - Preferences - Keyboard Shortcuts Highlight Show the Panel menu then type the Windows key It's Super - L on my keyboard E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Culshaw Sent: 06 August 2007 20:56 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Migrating from MS Windows I have moved my business and home computing over to Ubuntu,with very little problems. with the exception of 3 little niggles. Are there drivers available for a 2Wire usb wireless adapter. How do I install a minimum Kubuntu desktop without ruining my existing Gnome setup Is there a Ubuntu/Linux application that has the functionality of my old Lotus Organiser. I realise that I am asking this in the wrong place (sorry) Would welcome any assitance may be available. Regards Bill... -- Simple effective migration to Open Source based computing Jim Kissel Open Source Migrations Limited w: http://www.osml.eu e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44(0) 8703 301044 m: +44(0) 7976 411 679 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] DELL w/Ubuntu available in the UK
On 8/8/07, Alec Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wake up everyone! It's 8th August at last! http://dell.co.uk/ubuntu The best thing thats happened in the UK since cillit bang grime and lime :) Brilliant :) Still not updated though :( -- Josh Blacker http://jerichokb.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] DELL w/Ubuntu available in the UK
Oops I've just realised i replied to your email, Pete, rather than Dave's original one. Sorry! On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 15:37 +0100, Pete Stean wrote: This represents real progress - fantastic. Although I build my own desktop machines, finding an appropriate laptop to slap a distro on has always been difficult, now we might have a solution. Wonder how they're getting on with enabling all the features on the laptop though - power management etc - are there any caveats I wonder? Pete On 07/08/07, Darren Mansell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 14:18 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote: On 07/08/07, Neil Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shame the laptops aren't included yet... Oops! I got that backwards - the Inspirons *are* the laptops, not the desktops! 1 laptop, 1 desktop. They both look very tasty too. I'll be ordering one. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
