[ubuntu-uk] Document Storage
Morning Folks In the list's opinion which is the best way to store documents? In particular, as my own filing system is, well non existant, I was thinking about scanning all necessary documents and then storing them eithre to HD or CD / DVD. I've been trying to work out in my own mind what would be the better way to store these scanned documents that will maintain the clarity and be of minimal size. So far it's looking like storing them as a tiff image, but I'm not sure whether it's worth the time to push them through an OCR tool and into an appropriate document format. Either raw or compressed through something like 7Zip into a self extracting file, or such like It is not necessary for the stored images to be legal copies but are merely there for my own reference. Thoughts, apart from sorting out my paper filing system! E -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Document Storage
100DPI JPEG is usually fine for me - if you can, adjust the quality to get the best compression while still leaving it readable. On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 12:10 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: Morning Folks In the list's opinion which is the best way to store documents? In particular, as my own filing system is, well non existant, I was thinking about scanning all necessary documents and then storing them eithre to HD or CD / DVD. I've been trying to work out in my own mind what would be the better way to store these scanned documents that will maintain the clarity and be of minimal size. So far it's looking like storing them as a tiff image, but I'm not sure whether it's worth the time to push them through an OCR tool and into an appropriate document format. Either raw or compressed through something like 7Zip into a self extracting file, or such like It is not necessary for the stored images to be legal copies but are merely there for my own reference. Thoughts, apart from sorting out my paper filing system! E -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Document Storage
On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 12:10 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: Morning Folks In the list's opinion which is the best way to store documents? In particular, as my own filing system is, well non existant, I was thinking about scanning all necessary documents and then storing them eithre to HD or CD / DVD. I've been trying to work out in my own mind what would be the better way to store these scanned documents that will maintain the clarity and be of minimal size. SNIP Hi Ian, I have been looking into the same possibility over the last few months. Personally i would recommend PDF as it is easily accessible and a good file size with ~300dpi. One method of retrieval I did consider was http based searching with the scanned image OCR'd, this would allow $filename.pdf and $filename.txt. The later containing the 'best effort' of OCR. The web interface could search the txt's for keywords and link to the corresponding PDF's. Currently I have automated the scan process producing a PDF and an OCR'd txt file. If I find time this week, I will try and work on it further - and maybe create a project on launchpad hosting the source. Kind Regards Dave Walker signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kubuntu vs Ubuntu for new users
Chris Rowson wrote: I promise, I'm not trolling! I've been moving users across from Windows to Linux for a while now, with - on the large - reasonable success. Because I use Gnome, and don't have much experience of using KDE, I've just always installed Ubuntu by default and not really given Kubuntu the time of day. Lately, I've demonstrated Ubuntu to some real computer novices who've commented why is the start button at the top, and why are there two bars at the top and bottom of the screen, who have then shaken their heads in disapproval at this deviation from the Windows norm! Kubuntu, I notice is much more similar to the interface they know and love, so it'd make sense that it'd be the best choice for migrating users from Windows. Is this true? Should I try using Kubuntu as novice users first Linux distro? I have installed kde distros for new users who own the machines, and who will be supported personally by me as a friend. I use kde myself although not exclusively, and I still prefer it after a few years of being a newbie. My personal preference is based in its feature rich menus. I tend to recommend it to real windows based newcomers who are intending to go it alone because it looks a bit more like the windows layout initially, and - the menus are feature rich. I believe there is probably slightly less need for command line use initially with kubuntu for example. (versions 7.04, say). With my current experience level and modes of use I am more ready to appreciate gmone, and I use it more now than I used to. I have a installed a few machines for a local charity - with edubuntu - (gnome) - and the users have not had any difficulty at all. However, I will personally have to work harder to manage them because I have always preferred a non cl approach. It is not the end of the world though. I note with special interest that a number of apparently most popular distros are kde based. Suse used to be kde by default, with an easy choice of gnome, there is now pclinuxos, mepis, and maybe others. This is not much of an analysis, but my impression is that kubuntu takes the user a little further away from the command line at least initially, than ubuntu does. I still suggest kubuntu to real newcomers who will have no LUG support or seem as if they will shun cl, for that reason. -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Document Storage
Dave Nice one mate - let me know how you get on with it. How do you deal with things like statements that roll over onto multiple pages? Or put another way, do you scan each individual page, save it, and move onto the next one without attempting to link the two images together either by filename or other method, or are you relying on the text document to provide the linkage? E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Walker Sent: 16 September 2007 15:56 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Document Storage On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 12:10 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: Morning Folks In the list's opinion which is the best way to store documents? In particular, as my own filing system is, well non existant, I was thinking about scanning all necessary documents and then storing them eithre to HD or CD / DVD. I've been trying to work out in my own mind what would be the better way to store these scanned documents that will maintain the clarity and be of minimal size. SNIP Hi Ian, I have been looking into the same possibility over the last few months. Personally i would recommend PDF as it is easily accessible and a good file size with ~300dpi. One method of retrieval I did consider was http based searching with the scanned image OCR'd, this would allow $filename.pdf and $filename.txt. The later containing the 'best effort' of OCR. The web interface could search the txt's for keywords and link to the corresponding PDF's. Currently I have automated the scan process producing a PDF and an OCR'd txt file. If I find time this week, I will try and work on it further - and maybe create a project on launchpad hosting the source. Kind Regards Dave Walker -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Position for Ubuntu-Uk Contact
It pays no money you get little thanks but it is important. If you feel you could step into Nik's shoes and basically pass info from mail onto the group then sign up now for this amazing position. Seriously People. If you are a regular on the irc channel then now is the time to step forward and make yourself known. This job involves getting info in form of emails etc and passing the info on to the group (Ubuntu-Uk) to be voted on and discussed. You are basically just a contact point for anyone and everyone. So Bravely step forward and volunteer for this most prominent role and enjoy the adulation you receive. -- Seek That Thy Might Know -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Fwd: Position for Ubuntu-Uk Contact
-- Forwarded message -- From: Matthew Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 16 Sep 2007 22:26 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Position for Ubuntu-Uk Contact To: David Morley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Morley wrote: It pays no money you get little thanks but it is important. If you feel you could step into Nik's shoes and basically pass info from mail onto the group then sign up now for this amazing position. Seriously People. If you are a regular on the irc channel then now is the time to step forward and make yourself known. This job involves getting info in form of emails etc and passing the info on to the group (Ubuntu-Uk) to be voted on and discussed. You are basically just a contact point for anyone and everyone. So Bravely step forward and volunteer for this most prominent role and enjoy the adulation you receive. Hi Dave, I would like to volunteer for the role. I have been looking for opportunities to get more involved in the Ubuntu world and feel this could be a great step forward. I have represented Ubuntu at a few events this year and actively promote it to all persons I come into contact with. My organisational and communication skills are excellent, stemming from my experience running societies in University, managing my own video projects and my current work as an Analyst / Developer / Deployer. I am currently on an experience year working for LogicaCMG as part of my studies (Computer Science at Manchester), therefore I have both the time and inclination for this role. I am an active member on the mailing list (especially the leaflets) and often make an appearance in the IRC room. For a personal reference I would refer you to the previous volunteer LoudMouthMan as we were fortunate enough to meet at PodCamp UK this year, and to Alan Cox who I helped run a stall on Software Freedom Day this year. As I am based in Central London I can also easily travel to any events necessary for Ubuntu communication. Thank you for considering me for the role, and I feel I should end on a joke. What's orange and sounds like a parrot? A carrot! Best Regards, Matthew Larsen - -- - -- ___ - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= D=G===' '. - /\ /\ATTHEW |==| / \/ |\ |==| |_ARSEN )--/]II] |___| - [EMAIL PROTECTED] C O O O D - -- C O O O D C O O O D C__O__O__O__D C__O__O__O__D [_] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG7Z+HXfLqM4JLHqARArWJAJ9Ogji6LfiWxs7hhijxF5n0CynQCQCfRzzz FKA1RpxIECiSyO9uHA8o6vA= =lCxQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Seek That Thy Might Know -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: Position for Ubuntu-Uk Contact
David Morley wrote: It pays no money you get little thanks but it is important. If you feel you could step into Nik's shoes and basically pass info from mail onto the group then sign up now for this amazing position. Seriously People. If you are a regular on the irc channel then now is the time to step forward and make yourself known. This job involves getting info in form of emails etc and passing the info on to the group (Ubuntu-Uk) to be voted on and discussed. You are basically just a contact point for anyone and everyone. So Bravely step forward and volunteer for this most prominent role and enjoy the adulation you receive. Greetings David! I've not been involved in the appointment of an individual to a position within a loco group before, so I'm a little unsure about how this works. I wondered perhaps if it'd take the place of a poll where people could register their interest, and where other members of the group could then vote for their preference. Personally, given my (short) experience of the individuals within the team, I would like to register my own vote for Alan Pope as loco contact. That is of course if Alan decides he'd like to do the job. Should this be the preferred method of appointment, I'd quite happily make a wiki page to allow members votes to be recorded. Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Position for Ubuntu-Uk Contact
On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 21:56 +0100, David Morley wrote: It pays no money you get little thanks but it is important. If you feel you could step into Nik's shoes and basically pass info from mail onto the group then sign up now for this amazing position. Seriously People. If you are a regular on the irc channel then now is the time to step forward and make yourself known. This job involves getting info in form of emails etc and passing the info on to the group (Ubuntu-Uk) to be voted on and discussed. You are basically just a contact point for anyone and everyone. So Bravely step forward and volunteer for this most prominent role and enjoy the adulation you receive. -- Seek That Thy Might Know Go on then, thought i might as well volunteer :) I'm gord, been around in ubuntu-uk for quite a while, mostly on irc (i think most people who are on irc know who I am?). I'm fairly active in the ubuntu community (https://launchpad.net/~gordallott/ -- thats me) and I am nearly always at ubuntu-uk meetings. I am sure there are much better qualified people than me but hey, if there is no one better who shows up ;). -- -- Gord ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: Position for Ubuntu-Uk Contact
On 16/09/2007, Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Morley wrote: It pays no money you get little thanks but it is important. If you feel you could step into Nik's shoes and basically pass info from mail onto the group then sign up now for this amazing position. Seriously People. If you are a regular on the irc channel then now is the time to step forward and make yourself known. This job involves getting info in form of emails etc and passing the info on to the group (Ubuntu-Uk) to be voted on and discussed. You are basically just a contact point for anyone and everyone. So Bravely step forward and volunteer for this most prominent role and enjoy the adulation you receive. Greetings David! I've not been involved in the appointment of an individual to a position within a loco group before, so I'm a little unsure about how this works. I wondered perhaps if it'd take the place of a poll where people could register their interest, and where other members of the group could then vote for their preference. Personally, given my (short) experience of the individuals within the team, I would like to register my own vote for Alan Pope as loco contact. That is of course if Alan decides he'd like to do the job. Should this be the preferred method of appointment, I'd quite happily make a wiki page to allow members votes to be recorded. Cheers Chris -- Chris the idea is that people put their own name forward and next sunday there will be a meeting at 9pm on the irc channel to decide. -- Seek That Thy Might Know -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: Position for Ubuntu-Uk Contact
SNIP Should this be the preferred method of appointment, I'd quite happily make a wiki page to allow members votes to be recorded. SNIP Chris the idea is that people put their own name forward and next sunday there will be a meeting at 9pm on the irc channel to decide. Would it be worth using the launchpad 'Poll' option, this has the added benefit of better accessibility and the selectable option of hiding the members vote. Kind Regards, Dave Walker signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Position for Ubuntu-Uk Contact
I've cascaded this email to the ubuntu-uk loco forum too. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3376661 Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
