Re: [ubuntu-uk] [IMPORTANT NOTICE] - Ubuntu-UK Contact
Hi David, On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 23:30 +0100, David M wrote: > The process sounds reasonable 'in the large' but definitely not in the > detail. *Please* bear in mind that there are people who "don't do IRC" This is why it has been made a vote on launchpad and not IRC. If the vote had happened on IRC when it was scheduled to on Sunday 23rd there would have been about 10 or so people voting. Hardly democratic I'm sure you'll agree when there are over 250 people in the team (according to launchpad). So it was decided (as most people didn't turn up [probably because they didn't realise they needed to]) by those people who _did_ turn up that "something should be done". The mail you saw was the result of a discussion between a number of interested parties. > and also that there are people who might well do IRC but aren't able to > participate in a particular meeting for various reasons. It's not on for > a self-selecting few to present /faits accomplis/ with no further chance > for dialog, discussion or amendment. > The subject of the process for voting in a new Leader/Point Of Contact for the LoCo has been brought up (by myself) at multiple meetings in the past but it has either not been discussed or postponed for one reason or another. Now we are in a situation where the present leader has stepped down and we are looking for a new leader with no process in place to deal with that. > Although I am sure (I hope?) it is not intended as such, the proposed > timescale looks very much like an undemocratic attempt to steamroller > something through at high-speed (must be a rocket-propelled steamroller) > in a ludicrously short timescale, and DOES NOT allow due time for > community members to organise themselves not only to stand as > candidates, but to participate in the voting process. > Well. What actually happened was that it was suggested in the meeting on IRC and subsequently on the list last week that the vote should happen on Sunday 23rd, but as not many people turned up on Sunday 23rd it seemed unfair to hold the vote then. > I would strongly urge a rethinking of the timescale involved. > > That's a mere two days away! Many people won't have even read this > message until sometime tomorrow, possibly even later, giving even less > time to respond. > There have _already_ been mails asking for people to step up and add themselves to the wiki to put themselves forward. This isn't the first mail to mention it. There has been over a week to do this. We merely decided to extend the period to give a couple more days for any extra stragglers to add (or remove) themselves. > I would suggest that a week should be a minimum turnaround time for such > things. I'm sure there is nothing so vitally pressing that it can't wait > a few days longer and in doing so, being more accountable and > democratic. > There already was a week - between the date of the last meeting (16th Sept) and the date of the proposed vote (23rd Sept). It's now 1 week and 3 days. With a few days of voting at the end of the week. A GB general election (which some would consider is more important) gets the vote over and done with in a day for most people. Can we not cope with a few days voting I wonder? > > > The poll will be open for voting by Ubuntu-UK members registered with > > the launchpad Ubuntu-UK team https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-uk from > > 0:00 Thursday 28th September 2007 until 21:00 Sunday 30th September > > 2007. > > Again, that's too short a time. A week should be allowed for voting. > (And why stop at 21:00, rather than 23:59? Or are people who check their > email in the evening to be disbarred from participation?) > Why not 03:00, are people who check their email late at night disbarred from participation? Past experience tells me that whatever scheme is concocted, *someone* will object. I am not trying to belittle your objections, I can see valid arguments in your points, but please don't think that this was done maliciously, with intent to skew votes. It was merely done to get it over and done with promptly and efficiently without a lengthy drawn out protracted discussion. > Remember, not everybody necessarily checks their personal email every > day. Not everybody necessarily has the ability to respond 'instantly' > when there are other pressures on their time. And not least, shocking as > it may be to some, sometimes people are just away from the computer for > a few days.. > Indeed. I was on holiday with near-zero net connectivity when the meeting took place on the 16th September. I only knew that there was going to be a vote within one week when I happened to be able to get some bandwidth and saw a mail sent directly to me (not a mailing list mail). So I appreciate this point. > Using Launchpad as a voting platform seems reasonable apart from one > thing: how do we identify and authenticate voters? You need a launchpad ID and membership of the ubuntu-uk team. The actual votes will be anonymous ho
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard functions lost - KDE Kubuntu (6.06)
I believe this is a problem with 6.06, can remember how i fixed it, maybe try some updates? There are definately details in the forums about it. What you could try is this command: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver(or maybe its xserver-xorg try the first 1 first). This will re run the setup for xserver and the keyboard and mouse. Regards, daniel Original message From: alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 24 Sep 2007 7:23pm +00:00 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard functions lost - KDE Kubuntu (6.06) I am struggling with a problem (for a friend) of loss of keyboard function - and have posted to ubuntu forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=448344 'Help! My Keyboard has stopped working in KDE' If you think you can help I would be most grateful. I have reached the limit of my knowledge and begin to see a reinstall looming. tia (candtalan) -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard functions lost - KDE Kubuntu (6.06)
Hi, On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 20:23 +0100, alan c wrote: > I am struggling with a problem (for a friend) of loss of keyboard > function - and have posted to ubuntu forums > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=448344 > 'Help! My Keyboard has stopped working in KDE' > > If you think you can help I would be most grateful. I have reached the > limit of my knowledge and begin to see a reinstall looming. As the keyboard works in grub and kdm i assume it also works at the console. Boot to kdm then CTRL+ALT+F1 and then login there. Create a new user:- sudo adduser foo Then set a password. Now switch back to the KDM logon screen and logon as the new user "foo". If all works okay then it is a user level setting for the user who has the problem. I would suggest going through the settings in the kde control center thing ( I don't know it, I don't use KDE ) and look for keyboard settings, comparing the two users. Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Keyboard functions lost - KDE Kubuntu (6.06)
I am struggling with a problem (for a friend) of loss of keyboard function - and have posted to ubuntu forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=448344 'Help! My Keyboard has stopped working in KDE' If you think you can help I would be most grateful. I have reached the limit of my knowledge and begin to see a reinstall looming. tia (candtalan) -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Cool desktop
Hi Matt, On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 11:51 +0100, Matthew Larsen wrote: > > Of course, the only way of making your desktop look *really* cool is to > > use this picture as your background: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/avadw > > Oh Phil, PLEASE tell me that isn't your wallpaper... Yep. It's tiled. Phil -- Phil Bull http://www.launchpad.net/people/philbull -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Bluetooth connection
hi ok i got a motorola bluetooth headset with my Z8 (insert motorola jokes here). Anyway i was just wondering when i connect my headset to the pc via usb can i beam stuff into it.like pics and stuff...vice versa to!Hope this makes sense!-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [IMPORTANT NOTICE] - Ubuntu-UK Contact
Hi Matt, I know what you mean about the tube, I used to catch Gideons, like ninjas they are; how to catch a Gideon- go into a public building and phone the desk and say "I seem to have no bible in my room and hide behind the sofa, or similarly large furnishings and wait! Actually I mostly caught colds and flus on the tube, now I don't have that problem as I've moved to the frozen north, Lancashire. >From: "Matthew Larsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: British Ubuntu Talk >To: "British Ubuntu Talk" >Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] [IMPORTANT NOTICE] - Ubuntu-UK Contact >Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:45:18 +0100 > >Sorry I couldnt make it to the meeting last night, I think I caught >something on the tube :-( > >No, it wasn't an Elephant or a Hippo or some other assorted animal (I >know what you Ubuntu people think) > >Regards, > >On 23/09/2007, Chris Rowson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As Nik Butler has announced that he is stepping down, the position of > > LoCo contact will shortly become vacant. This of course means that > > Ubuntu-UK needs a new contact. > > > > Due to some ambiguity as to how we should vote for a new member, > > tonights IRC meeting focused on establishing the fairest way to do so. > > The process which follows is the result of that meeting, and it's been > > designed to be as fair as possible. For this reason we would ask any > > candidates to please stick to it. Late entries will not be accepted. > > > > Candidates for the Loco contact position have until 23:59 on Wednesday > > 26th September 2007 to register an interest by adding their names to > > the following page. > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ubuntu-uk.org/PoC_candidates > > > > Names will then be taken from the candidate page, and added to a > > launchpad poll which will appear here: > > > > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-uk/+polls > > > > The poll will be open for voting by Ubuntu-UK members registered with > > the launchpad Ubuntu-UK team https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-uk from > > 0:00 Thursday 28th September 2007 until 21:00 Sunday 30th September > > 2007. > > > > At or around the close of voting, the winning candidate will be > > announced on the mailing list, forums and IRC. > > > > NOTE: All times quoted are BST, not UTC. > > > > -- > > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > > > > >-- >Matthew G Larsen >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >-- >ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ _ Get Pimped! FREE emoticon packs from Windows Live - http://www.pimpmylive.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Cool desktop
> Of course, the only way of making your desktop look *really* cool is to > use this picture as your background: > > http://tinyurl.com/avadw Oh Phil, PLEASE tell me that isn't your wallpaper... -- Matthew G Larsen > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [IMPORTANT NOTICE] - Ubuntu-UK Contact
Sorry I couldnt make it to the meeting last night, I think I caught something on the tube :-( No, it wasn't an Elephant or a Hippo or some other assorted animal (I know what you Ubuntu people think) Regards, On 23/09/2007, Chris Rowson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As Nik Butler has announced that he is stepping down, the position of > LoCo contact will shortly become vacant. This of course means that > Ubuntu-UK needs a new contact. > > Due to some ambiguity as to how we should vote for a new member, > tonights IRC meeting focused on establishing the fairest way to do so. > The process which follows is the result of that meeting, and it's been > designed to be as fair as possible. For this reason we would ask any > candidates to please stick to it. Late entries will not be accepted. > > Candidates for the Loco contact position have until 23:59 on Wednesday > 26th September 2007 to register an interest by adding their names to > the following page. > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ubuntu-uk.org/PoC_candidates > > Names will then be taken from the candidate page, and added to a > launchpad poll which will appear here: > > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-uk/+polls > > The poll will be open for voting by Ubuntu-UK members registered with > the launchpad Ubuntu-UK team https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-uk from > 0:00 Thursday 28th September 2007 until 21:00 Sunday 30th September > 2007. > > At or around the close of voting, the winning candidate will be > announced on the mailing list, forums and IRC. > > NOTE: All times quoted are BST, not UTC. > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > -- Matthew G Larsen > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
