Re: [ubuntu-uk] Intel Pro/Wireless 3945ABG
On 09/12/2007, taufanlubis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, 2007-12-08 at 13:18 +, Tony Travis wrote: > > Alan Pope wrote:> On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 10:02:24PM +, Kris Douglas > wrote:>> Hi, I'm having trouble loading the wireless driver for the ipw3945 > on this>> Asus laptop. The chip can be seen in the hardware list, but i can > not access>> wifi on PCL/ Ubuntu and I dont know why I have at least four > other machines>> that are running this or a very similar chip and i do not > have trohble, but>> in any linux distro i can not access the wifi. The only > way I can actually>> get on is by using an external usb wifi dongle Any > ideas?>>> > The 3945 is supported in Ubuntu, my Toshiba laptop has one.> > It > has an issue that I _think_ is down to network manager in that it refuses > > to associate with an AP when first booted, however it works if I use the > > wired connection first. > > > Have you try to use Ndiswrapper? > Use your original driver for windows in Ubuntu. > > http://taufanlubis.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/how-to-install-wlan-pcmcia-ieee-80211b-wilan-card-in-ubuntu/ > > Cheers, > > Taufan Lubis > Registered Ubuntu User #16660 > The more you give to others, the more respect you get in return. > My Articles@ www.taufanlubis.wordpress.com > > > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > > NDIS= instantaneous hardware lockup, requires reboot. -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Intel Pro/Wireless 3945ABG
On Sat, 2007-12-08 at 13:18 +, Tony Travis wrote: > Alan Pope wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 10:02:24PM +, Kris Douglas wrote: > >> Hi, I'm having trouble loading the wireless driver for the ipw3945 on this > >> Asus laptop. The chip can be seen in the hardware list, but i can not > >> access > >> wifi on PCL/ Ubuntu and I dont know why I have at least four other machines > >> that are running this or a very similar chip and i do not have trohble, but > >> in any linux distro i can not access the wifi. The only way I can actually > >> get on is by using an external usb wifi dongle Any ideas? > >> > > > > The 3945 is supported in Ubuntu, my Toshiba laptop has one. > > > > It has an issue that I _think_ is down to network manager in that it > > refuses > > to associate with an AP when first booted, however it works if I use the > > wired connection first. Have you try to use Ndiswrapper? Use your original driver for windows in Ubuntu. http://taufanlubis.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/how-to-install-wlan-pcmcia-ieee-80211b-wilan-card-in-ubuntu/ Cheers, Taufan Lubis Registered Ubuntu User #16660 The more you give to others, the more respect you get in return. My Articles@ www.taufanlubis.wordpress.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Smelly Broadband......
On Thu, 2007-12-06 at 16:56 +, Michael Rimicans wrote: > Greetings, > > Anyone else seen this: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7104011.stm Whenever anyone mentions this company, I can't get Google's TiSP out of my head... http://www.google.com/tisp/ Freddie :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Intel Pro/Wireless 3945ABG
No, ifconfig -a shows no device (excl eth0 LAN) The kernel shows something, then "device not found" And I can't check the kern.log yet. On 08/12/2007, Tony Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kris Douglas wrote: > > [...] > > When running modprobe, it doesn't pass an error, in fact, it seems to > > load the driver, but it doesn't appear in ifconfig. > > Hello, Kris. > > Have you tried: > > sudo ifconfig -a > > Also see if the kernel detected it by looking at the output of: > > dmesg > > Alternatively, try: > > more /var/log/kern.log > > If the kernel loads the module it reports it, but if the hardware is not > found it will jsut be ignored and no device will be created. > > I think WiFi is the Achilles heel of Ubuntu acceptance: I've just used > the fwcutter package in the 'restricted' software manager to install the > Broadcom firmware on an Asus laptop. I also had to enable the Windows > driver 'wake-on-LAN-after-power-off' option which, by default, DISABLES > the Realtek wired connection under Linux! (this is a dual-boot machine). > > All working nicely under Ubuntu 7.10, with Compviz 3D effects now! > > Very shiny :-) > > Best wishes, > > Tony. > -- > Dr. A.J.Travis, | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Rowett Research Institute, |http://www.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt > Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, | phone:+44 (0)1224 712751 > Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK.| fax:+44 (0)1224 716687 > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] realplayer powerpc problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi I just installed realplayer as per the powerpcfaq, but the details of the problem i have put in the forums > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=634992 any help would be very helpfull. thanks brobostigon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHWsRckAm73f68O+0RAnNTAJ9Q5aAJGNg1NQciD85VxyaCN4XNfwCeICJR TFsx/NNkH6Vp9sw4zDxI8zI= =bfhG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Intel Pro/Wireless 3945ABG
Kris Douglas wrote: > [...] > When running modprobe, it doesn't pass an error, in fact, it seems to > load the driver, but it doesn't appear in ifconfig. Hello, Kris. Have you tried: sudo ifconfig -a Also see if the kernel detected it by looking at the output of: dmesg Alternatively, try: more /var/log/kern.log If the kernel loads the module it reports it, but if the hardware is not found it will jsut be ignored and no device will be created. I think WiFi is the Achilles heel of Ubuntu acceptance: I've just used the fwcutter package in the 'restricted' software manager to install the Broadcom firmware on an Asus laptop. I also had to enable the Windows driver 'wake-on-LAN-after-power-off' option which, by default, DISABLES the Realtek wired connection under Linux! (this is a dual-boot machine). All working nicely under Ubuntu 7.10, with Compviz 3D effects now! Very shiny :-) Best wishes, Tony. -- Dr. A.J.Travis, | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rowett Research Institute, |http://www.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, | phone:+44 (0)1224 712751 Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK.| fax:+44 (0)1224 716687 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] realplayer gutsy powerpc problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi I just installed realplayer as per the powerpcfaq, but the details of the problem i have put in the forums > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=634992 any help would be very helpfull. thanks brobostigon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHWriCkAm73f68O+0RAvLLAJ9k2BNEyo2zNERfth+/B7Fm81bYDwCeOz9v rXfC9nHNbrKe5BxuukoyN/A= =8pD4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Intel Pro/Wireless 3945ABG
On 08/12/2007, Tony Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kris Douglas wrote: > > [...] > > In my system this doesn't seem to be the problem, the device works in > > windows, but when I switch to Linux it can't see it as an interface, > > Thanks for the information,by the way. > > Hello, Kris. > > Hmm... are you sure your system is loading the kernel module? > > Try using: > > sudo discover -f "%m\t%M\t%V\n" all > > and: > > sudo lshw -C network > > This should give you an idea about what hardware Linux can detect on > your system. If the module is not loaded try: > > modprobe module_name > > Where "module_name" is the kernel device driver module for your NIC. > > Best wishes, > > Tony. > -- > Dr. A.J.Travis, | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Rowett Research Institute, |http://www.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt > Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, | phone:+44 (0)1224 712751 > Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK.| fax:+44 (0)1224 716687 > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > When running modprobe, it doesn't pass an error, in fact, it seems to load the driver, but it doesn't appear in ifconfig. -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Intel Pro/Wireless 3945ABG
Kris Douglas wrote: > [...] > In my system this doesn't seem to be the problem, the device works in > windows, but when I switch to Linux it can't see it as an interface, > Thanks for the information,by the way. Hello, Kris. Hmm... are you sure your system is loading the kernel module? Try using: sudo discover -f "%m\t%M\t%V\n" all and: sudo lshw -C network This should give you an idea about what hardware Linux can detect on your system. If the module is not loaded try: modprobe module_name Where "module_name" is the kernel device driver module for your NIC. Best wishes, Tony. -- Dr. A.J.Travis, | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rowett Research Institute, |http://www.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, | phone:+44 (0)1224 712751 Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK.| fax:+44 (0)1224 716687 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Intel Pro/Wireless 3945ABG
On 08/12/2007, Tony Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alan Pope wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 10:02:24PM +, Kris Douglas wrote: > >> Hi, I'm having trouble loading the wireless driver for the ipw3945 on > this > >> Asus laptop. The chip can be seen in the hardware list, but i can not > access > >> wifi on PCL/ Ubuntu and I dont know why I have at least four other > machines > >> that are running this or a very similar chip and i do not have trohble, > but > >> in any linux distro i can not access the wifi. The only way I can > actually > >> get on is by using an external usb wifi dongle Any ideas? > >> > > > > The 3945 is supported in Ubuntu, my Toshiba laptop has one. > > > > It has an issue that I _think_ is down to network manager in that it > refuses > > to associate with an AP when first booted, however it works if I use the > > wired connection first. > > Hello, Al. > > Have you tried WiFi radar from the Universe: > > sudo aptitude install wifi-radar > > Your problem sounds a bit like what happens when I disconnect the wired > connection from my laptop after booting with it connected. I have to > disable the wired connection before the WiFi connection works using: > > ifdown eth1 # wired connection > > Then restart the WiFi connection using: > > ifdown eth0 # WiFi connection > ifup eth0 > > Alternatively, I can connect using WiFi radar. > > Changing the subject, I've now got 7.10 (Gutsy) running on my iMac :-) > > Anyone else using this ancient 'unsupportable' PowerPC technology? > > BTW, I'm running the IBM PowerPC version of Java 1.5 OK in 640MB RAM. > > I've looked at the DIY iMac 1GB upgrade instructions on the web + I > might give it a go: > > http://www.macworld.com/2003/08/features/15fpimacupgrade/index.php > > Just slightly concerned about the heat transfer seal being broken when I > pull it apart. Anyone else done this on the 15" LCD G4 iMac? > > Best wishes, > > Tony. > -- > Dr. A.J.Travis, | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Rowett Research Institute, |http://www.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt > Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, | phone:+44 (0)1224 712751 > Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK.| fax:+44 (0)1224 716687 > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > In my system this doesn't seem to be the problem, the device works in windows, but when I switch to Linux it can't see it as an interface, Thanks for the information,by the way. -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Intel Pro/Wireless 3945ABG
Alan Pope wrote: > On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 10:02:24PM +, Kris Douglas wrote: >> Hi, I'm having trouble loading the wireless driver for the ipw3945 on this >> Asus laptop. The chip can be seen in the hardware list, but i can not access >> wifi on PCL/ Ubuntu and I dont know why I have at least four other machines >> that are running this or a very similar chip and i do not have trohble, but >> in any linux distro i can not access the wifi. The only way I can actually >> get on is by using an external usb wifi dongle Any ideas? >> > > The 3945 is supported in Ubuntu, my Toshiba laptop has one. > > It has an issue that I _think_ is down to network manager in that it refuses > to associate with an AP when first booted, however it works if I use the > wired connection first. Hello, Al. Have you tried WiFi radar from the Universe: sudo aptitude install wifi-radar Your problem sounds a bit like what happens when I disconnect the wired connection from my laptop after booting with it connected. I have to disable the wired connection before the WiFi connection works using: ifdown eth1 # wired connection Then restart the WiFi connection using: ifdown eth0 # WiFi connection ifup eth0 Alternatively, I can connect using WiFi radar. Changing the subject, I've now got 7.10 (Gutsy) running on my iMac :-) Anyone else using this ancient 'unsupportable' PowerPC technology? BTW, I'm running the IBM PowerPC version of Java 1.5 OK in 640MB RAM. I've looked at the DIY iMac 1GB upgrade instructions on the web + I might give it a go: http://www.macworld.com/2003/08/features/15fpimacupgrade/index.php Just slightly concerned about the heat transfer seal being broken when I pull it apart. Anyone else done this on the 15" LCD G4 iMac? Best wishes, Tony. -- Dr. A.J.Travis, | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rowett Research Institute, |http://www.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, | phone:+44 (0)1224 712751 Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK.| fax:+44 (0)1224 716687 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Intel Pro/Wireless 3945ABG
On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 10:02:24PM +, Kris Douglas wrote: > Hi, I'm having trouble loading the wireless driver for the ipw3945 on this > Asus laptop. The chip can be seen in the hardware list, but i can not access > wifi on PCL/ Ubuntu and I dont know why I have at least four other machines > that are running this or a very similar chip and i do not have trohble, but > in any linux distro i can not access the wifi. The only way I can actually > get on is by using an external usb wifi dongle Any ideas? > The 3945 is supported in Ubuntu, my Toshiba laptop has one. It has an issue that I _think_ is down to network manager in that it refuses to associate with an AP when first booted, however it works if I use the wired connection first. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hole in the Wall Project
London School of Puppetry wrote: > Does anyone know anything about this project? Taking place in India. > Computers are built into walls in India in open spaces for children to play > with thousands of them have learnt English over the past year by > playingApparently they did try OS tech. but said it didn't work- stuff > likes Red Hat I was told vaguely.anyone know anything about it? Yes. It had at least one bbc audio broadcast a while ago (2005?), I was really impressed. It seemed a bit like a prototype OLPC philosophy at least in its learning philosophy. I think an Indian IT Minister of the day ran it, not sure. This was in the dark old days when linux was not quite so widely used as it is now, and the computers were windows. It was an IT Education project not an operating system project, which showed that children, of many ages, could and would get to use a computer without any instruction at all, in a very short time - typically minutes rather than hours. The key seemed to be that the Director had the following approach: When the computer was first set up, there would be a crowd of kids around, curious. He would address them and ask 'Who can ride a bike? - all hands went up. 'Who taught you to ride a bike? - lots of shrugs and 'I learned myself!' Then he would say 'well, this (computer) is like a bike'.Then he just went away! In minutes things were being done with text and simple graphics, with a mostly cooperative interaction in the multi age kids groups, including tiny kids getting under the crowd trying to get to the keyboard. The same thing happened when they wen to remote villages where people had not seen a computer before. Apart from the OS, I thought that philosophically it led straight to OLPC approach in many ways. At the time I was running an Age Concern Internet cafe and noted how our own education culture led so much to people expecting to be told and guided to do things. http://www.ncl.ac.uk/egwest/holeinthewall.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/4365350.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4498511.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1502820.stm http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/india/index.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/1478157.stm http://www.hole-in-the-wall.com/ I cannot now find a 'listen again' bbc item however, I have a stream capture of the bbc broadcast in mp3 it is 26MB. If anyone wants to have a copy let me know. -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
