[ubuntu-uk] Mega Slow Bootup

2008-02-02 Thread Stephen Garton
Morning All,

I've also posted to my blog, but I would appreciate it if someone
could take a look at a bootchart image from today, and hazard a guess
as to why my computer takes (metaphorically) 3 days to boot?

http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk/images/gutsy-20080202-1.png

Image is fairly large, so apologies! It looks like modprobe  udev are
taking the time, but I have no idea how to find out why, so guidance
would be appreciated!

TIA

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mega Slow Bootup

2008-02-02 Thread Tony Arnold
Stephen

Stephen Garton wrote:
 Morning All,
 
 I've also posted to my blog, but I would appreciate it if someone
 could take a look at a bootchart image from today, and hazard a guess
 as to why my computer takes (metaphorically) 3 days to boot?
 
 http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk/images/gutsy-20080202-1.png
 
 Image is fairly large, so apologies! It looks like modprobe  udev are
 taking the time, but I have no idea how to find out why, so guidance
 would be appreciated!

Remove the package evms with your favourite package manager.

Regards,
Tony.
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[ubuntu-uk] Network problems Realtek 8168 card

2008-02-02 Thread Rob Beard
Hi folks.

I wasn't sure if anyone was aware of this so I figured I'd post about it.

I've recently upgraded my PC with a new CPU and motherboard (MSI P35 
Neo2-FR with Pentium Dual Core E2160).  Before I upgraded I was able to 
stream videos using Samba to my XBOX perfectly, however after the 
upgrade the streaming appeared to stop after about a minute.

At first I put it down to not reinstalling Ubuntu (I had a 32-bit 
installation, and it wasn't recognising that I had 4GB memory in there, 
it was only picking up 3.3GB).  So I installed a fresh copy of Ubuntu 
7.10 AMD64.

The installation went through fine, everything appeared to work okay but 
I still had this issue with the network.  Browing the internet was fine. 
  I couldn't work out at first what we wrong (I tried running an fsck on 
the drive, and it came up okay).

After a bit of searching this morning I found that a few people have 
been having issues with these Realtek on-board network cards.  It seems 
that Ubuntu is using the RTL8169 driver rather than the RTL8168 driver 
which works but not very well.

The solution to this was to download and compile the Realtek drivers 
(which are infact GPL'd :-).

There's a post on the Ubuntu forums about the issue here: 
http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=671614

I figured it may come up again (I didn't expect the driver to be causing 
these issues), so if you're like me and have a motherboard with a 
Realtek 8168/8111 Gigabit network adaptor on board then you might be 
worth trying the other driver if you see any funny issues like this.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mega Slow Bootup

2008-02-02 Thread Stephen Garton
On 02/02/2008, Tony Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Stephen

 Remove the package evms with your favourite package manager.


Already been done, I'm afraid:

sudo apt-get remove evms
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package evms is not installed, so not removed
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

Back when Gutsy was released, so it can't be that.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] affuse: FUSE support is disabled (Ubuntu 7.10) (RESOLVED)

2008-02-02 Thread Stuart Bird
All sorted now. Turns out I needed the fuse dev packages (and fuse.h) installed 
before afflib was compiled. Once I had everything installed I re-compiled 
afflib and it all worked.

Stu

- Original Message 
From: Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] affuse: FUSE support is disabled (Ubuntu 7.10)

On 
Fri, 
Feb 
01, 
2008 
at 
09:56:37AM 
+, 
Stuart 
Bird 
wrote:
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/stu# 
affuse 
/home/stu/case_work/testing/aimage/aimage_test-1.aff 
/mnt/aff
 

Tsk 
tsk 
root 
:)

 
I 
get 
this 
error:
 
 
affuse: 
FUSE 
support 
is 
disabled.
 

Have 
you 
isntalled 
the 
fuse-utils 
package?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mega Slow Bootup

2008-02-02 Thread Tony Travis
Tony Arnold wrote:
 Stephen
 
 Stephen Garton wrote:
 Morning All,

 I've also posted to my blog, but I would appreciate it if someone
 could take a look at a bootchart image from today, and hazard a guess
 as to why my computer takes (metaphorically) 3 days to boot?

 http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk/images/gutsy-20080202-1.png

 Image is fairly large, so apologies! It looks like modprobe  udev are
 taking the time, but I have no idea how to find out why, so guidance
 would be appreciated!
 
 Remove the package evms with your favourite package manager.

Hello, Stephen and Tony.

I think Tony is right, but LVM problems might just be a symptom of the 
underlying trouble, not the cause. Modprobe is in i/o wait state while 
vol_id is probing your disks, looking for volume labels. If there are 
read errors on a faulty hard disk, for example, it can take a long time 
for the kernel drivers to give up. Have you run any disk diagnostics?

Another possibility is that you might have corrupted partition tables 
and/or you are waiting for non-existent UUID's to be discovered. The 
fstab entries in Gutsy now use UUID's instead of device names and these 
UUID's are intended to be persistent across changes to the BIOS-derived 
device names caused by adding/removing disks.

BTW, Thanks for introducing me to bootchart :-)

Tony.
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[ubuntu-uk] problems with miro!-keeps closing

2008-02-02 Thread Javad Ayaz
Hi,

I just installed Miro...but everytime i open it..it opens for a few seconds,
loads and then closes again!!

how can i fix this please?
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] problems with miro!-keeps closing

2008-02-02 Thread Kris Douglas
On 02/02/2008, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I just installed Miro...but everytime i open it..it opens for a few seconds,
 loads and then closes again!!

 how can i fix this please?

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Can you try running it from a terminal, then post us an output here, thanks.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mega Slow Bootup

2008-02-02 Thread Tony Arnold
Stephen,

Stephen Garton wrote:
 On 02/02/2008, Tony Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Stephen

 Remove the package evms with your favourite package manager.

 
 Already been done, I'm afraid:
 
 sudo apt-get remove evms
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 Package evms is not installed, so not removed
 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
 
 Back when Gutsy was released, so it can't be that.

In which case, I'm stuck! Removing evms did it for me!

Regards,
Tony.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] problems with miro!-keeps closing

2008-02-02 Thread Javad Ayaz
how would i run it from terminal?

On 02/02/2008, Kris Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 02/02/2008, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I just installed Miro...but everytime i open it..it opens for a few
 seconds,
  loads and then closes again!!
 
  how can i fix this please?
 
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 Can you try running it from a terminal, then post us an output here,
 thanks.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] problems with miro!-keeps closing

2008-02-02 Thread Rob Beard
Javad Ayaz wrote:
 how would i run it from terminal?
 

Click on Applications, then Accessories and select Terminal.

When the terminal window opens, try entering

miro

and then press enter.  Hopefully it should come up with some text in the 
terminal window which you should be able to copy and paste into an e-mail.

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] problems with miro!-keeps closing

2008-02-02 Thread Kris Douglas
On 02/02/2008, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Javad Ayaz wrote:
  how would i run it from terminal?
 

 Click on Applications, then Accessories and select Terminal.

 When the terminal window opens, try entering

 miro

 and then press enter.  Hopefully it should come up with some text in the
 terminal window which you should be able to copy and paste into an e-mail.

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Beat me to it :)

Sorry I didn't get a chance to reply, I'm sorting a laptop out for my
sister's birthday.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] problems with miro!-keeps closing

2008-02-02 Thread Rob Beard
Kris Douglas wrote:
 On 02/02/2008, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Javad Ayaz wrote:
 how would i run it from terminal?

 Click on Applications, then Accessories and select Terminal.

 When the terminal window opens, try entering

 miro

 and then press enter.  Hopefully it should come up with some text in the
 terminal window which you should be able to copy and paste into an e-mail.

 Rob

 
 Beat me to it :)
 
 Sorry I didn't get a chance to reply, I'm sorting a laptop out for my
 sister's birthday.
 

A laptop running (k)Ubuntu? :-)

That reminds me, I still have to sort my other half's PC out.  I'm 
reluctant to do it because she wants *cough* Windows XP *cough*.

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[ubuntu-uk] Pyweek Ubuntu-UK entry?

2008-02-02 Thread Alan Pope
Hi all,

Hope everyone's having a good weekend.

I've noticed that there is a pyweek game development competition coming
up and the thought entered my head that (some of) Ubuntu-UK might want
to put heads together and work on an entry.

For those that don't know pyweek is a regular competition that runs for
a week (this year it's 30th March till 6th April) and involves the
development of a game in Python.

It's not specifically Linux/Ubuntu based, but clearly we have a viable
development platform given we have Python / Pygame and all the other
necessary bits and bobs.

I just wondered if anyone else might be interested in contributing. At
first glance we would be in need of one or more programmers, musicians,
artists and testers, along with maybe project management (!) and
documentation roles to fill. 

Personally I know a little python but not enough to make a nice polished
game in a week, so I know I can't do this kind of thing on my own. I'd
see this as a great way to promote our community and show what we can
get done when we pull together. :)

For more details check out their site and look back through some
previous entries to get an idea of the level we're aiming at.

http://pyweek.org/ - Site
http://pyweek.org/6/ - March 2008 competition
http://www.pyweek.org/d/1282/ - Announcement
http://media.pyweek.org/static/rules.html - Rules

The two previous entries which I quite like are 'Nelly's Rooftop Garden'
- http://www.pyweek.org/e/rushed/ , and Trip on the Funny Boat -
http://www.pyweek.org/e/Pekuja/

Anyone else interested?

Cheers,
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[ubuntu-uk] New to the list

2008-02-02 Thread charles
Is any body there?
I have some questions on getting my new Kubuntu properly sorted.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New to the list

2008-02-02 Thread Alan Pope

On Sat, 2008-02-02 at 19:56 +, charles wrote:
 Is any body there?

At the last count there were 457 (you being the 457th) :)

 I have some questions on getting my new Kubuntu properly sorted.

Fire away and we'll see what we can do. However I feel compelled to
point you in the direction of the 'official' support channels just in
case we can't.

http://www.ubuntu.com/support
http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/webforums
http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/chatirc
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu

Cheers,
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[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server, oidentd and eggdrops

2008-02-02 Thread whoredom
Hey,
I have been trying to get an identd daemon running on my Ubuntu Server so
they can identify with IRC servers (some of which require it to connect). I
run a miau IRC bouncer and some eggdrops, each with their own account. I
tried out oidentd as it gets mentioned a lot in the threads I have seen, but
installation, running and configuration has not seen any results.

Has anyone got any tips? Or managed to get it running themselves? I hear
there are issues with identd because I use a router that includes a firewall
(the port is forwarded to the correct machine). Is spoofing an option? How
do I spoof?

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[ubuntu-uk] Video Editing - AVID?

2008-02-02 Thread Sean Miller
Anybody any ideas with OSS and/or Linux for this friend from Glastonbury?

Thanks in advance.

Sean

=
i have an external hard drive with a bunch of video footage from the
sunrise festival to be edited - it has been captured in avid , the
file are not compatable with my editing program - adobe cs3
i have downloaded and installed avid dv to import thyem and export
them as an avi file, but it is incompatible with my video card

agh

its a frustrating week for me computerwise
does anyone here use avid and could convert the files for me or have
any solution?
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] problems with miro!-keeps closing

2008-02-02 Thread Javad Ayaz
ok here is what i got:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ miro
/usr/lib/firefox
INFO Starting up Miro
INFO Version:1.1.1
INFO Revision:
https://svn.participatoryculture.org/svn/dtv/tags/Miro-1.1.1/tv/resources -
6063
INFO Builder:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
INFO Build Time: 1201146701.85
INFO Loading preferences...
INFO Starting event loop thread
INFO Restoring database...
INFO Connecting to /home/jman/.miro/sqlitedb
TIMING   Database load slow: 4.487
TIMING   idle (Initializing database) too slow (5.004 secs)
TIMING   idle (Initializing database) cumulative is too slow (5.004 secs)
INFO Spawning auto downloader...
INFO Displaying main frame...
INFO *** Launching Downloader Daemon 
INFO Creating video display...
WARNING  Menu item action RenameVideo not implemented
WARNING  Menu item action FastForward not implemented
WARNING  Menu item action Rewind not implemented
WARNING  Menu item action UpVolume not implemented
WARNING  Menu item action DownVolume not implemented
INFO loaded renderer 'xinerenderer'
TIMING   gtkAsyncMethod: function initRenderers at 0x8a78e9c took too
long: 1.696
TIMING   gtkSyncMethod: function getDisplay at 0x8ad9224 took too long:
1.786
INFO First URL is https://www.miroguide.com/
INFO got file:///tmp/tmpmk9Gmr.html
TIMING   gtkAsyncMethod: function selectDisplay at 0x8ad91b4 took too
long: 3.402
TIMING   Icon clear: 3.573
INFO Starting movie data updates
INFO Finished startup sequence
TIMING   idle (finalizing startup) too slow (6.018 secs)
TIMING   idle (finalizing startup) cumulative is too slow (6.018 secs)
WARNING: u'None' has no scheme
WARNING: Assuming port 80 for scheme:
WARNING: u'None' has no scheme
WARNING: Assuming port 80 for scheme:
WARNING: u'None' has no scheme
WARNING: Assuming port 80 for scheme:
INFO got file:///tmp/tmpucbn3V.html
INFO First URL is https://www.miroguide.com/
INFO *** Daemon ready ***
INFO got file:///usr/share/miro/resources/html/guide-navigation.html
INFO First URL is https://www.miroguide.com/
INFO got https://www.miroguide.com/
INFO First URL is https://www.miroguide.com/
WARNING: u'None' has no scheme
WARNING: Assuming port 80 for scheme:
WARNING: u'None' has no scheme
WARNING: Assuming port 80 for scheme:
WARNING: u'None' has no scheme
WARNING: Assuming port 80 for scheme:
** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
/usr/bin/python2.5: symbol lookup error:
/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.03/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so:
undefined symbol: PR_NewMonitor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ WARNING  downloader: connection closed -- quitting
INFO Shutting down downloaders...



On 02/02/2008, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Javad Ayaz wrote:
  how would i run it from terminal?
 

 Click on Applications, then Accessories and select Terminal.

 When the terminal window opens, try entering

 miro

 and then press enter.  Hopefully it should come up with some text in the
 terminal window which you should be able to copy and paste into an e-mail.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video Editing - AVID?

2008-02-02 Thread Alan Pope

On Sat, 2008-02-02 at 20:08 +, Sean Miller wrote:
 i have an external hard drive with a bunch of video footage from the
 sunrise festival to be edited - it has been captured in avid , the
 file are not compatable with my editing program - adobe cs3
 i have downloaded and installed avid dv to import thyem and export
 them as an avi file, but it is incompatible with my video card
 
 agh
 
 its a frustrating week for me computerwise
 does anyone here use avid and could convert the files for me or have
 any solution?
 :)

WinFF?

It seems to be able to convert pretty much anything to anything.

http://biggmatt.com/winff/

It's GPL (based on ffmpeg) and cross platform.

Cheers,
Al.


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[ubuntu-uk] Real Player

2008-02-02 Thread charles
Need help with getting Real Player installed in my new Kubuntu.

Charles

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video Editing - AVID?

2008-02-02 Thread Ian Pascoe
Sean

LWN finished off a video editing series week before last, which I sped read 
through - it may provide some enlightenment.

E
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sean Miller
  Sent: 02 February 2008 20:08
  To: British Ubuntu Talk
  Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Video Editing - AVID?


  Anybody any ideas with OSS and/or Linux for this friend from Glastonbury?

  Thanks in advance.

  Sean

  =
  i have an external hard drive with a bunch of video footage from the
  sunrise festival to be edited - it has been captured in avid , the
  file are not compatable with my editing program - adobe cs3
  i have downloaded and installed avid dv to import thyem and export
  them as an avi file, but it is incompatible with my video card

  agh

  its a frustrating week for me computerwise
  does anyone here use avid and could convert the files for me or have
  any solution?
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OpenSSI on Ubuntu (with LTSP thrown infor goodmeasure)

2008-02-02 Thread Ian Pascoe
Rob

Sorry mate, going to have to waive the white flag on this one!

Thought I had replied back to the person who gave me the link I was thinking
of and can't find that darn mail at all.

If I find it in the future I will pop it onto the list.

E

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Sent: 29 January 2008 21:10
To: British Ubuntu Talk
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OpenSSI on Ubuntu (with LTSP thrown infor
goodmeasure)



On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 20:59 +, Ian Pascoe wrote:
 Hi Rob

 I have desperately been trying to find an article I read last month that
 would seem to fit your ideal nicely Rob and also keep the geek in you
 interested.

 The project was based on LTSP and worked in a kinda clustering sort of
way.
 If memory serves each client on the network as it had spare CPU capacity
 would allow some of this capacity to be used to bolster up the main
 servers - obviously the clients being proper PCs together with a high
 bandwidth interconnect.

 It may well have been as a result of a posting here as I have a nagging
 suspision that it was detailed somewhere on schoolforge.net, or similar.

 I'll have some lubrication later on tonight and see if the grey cells can
be
 bullied into working.

 E

Thanks Ian, this sounds a bit like what I was told about.  If you can
find the information I'd love to know.

Ta,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] problems with miro!-keeps closing

2008-02-02 Thread Kris Douglas
On 02/02/2008, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kris Douglas wrote:
  On 02/02/2008, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Javad Ayaz wrote:
  how would i run it from terminal?
 
  Click on Applications, then Accessories and select Terminal.
 
  When the terminal window opens, try entering
 
  miro
 
  and then press enter.  Hopefully it should come up with some text in the
  terminal window which you should be able to copy and paste into an e-mail.
 
  Rob
 
 
  Beat me to it :)
 
  Sorry I didn't get a chance to reply, I'm sorting a laptop out for my
  sister's birthday.
 

 A laptop running (k)Ubuntu? :-)

 That reminds me, I still have to sort my other half's PC out.  I'm
 reluctant to do it because she wants *cough* Windows XP *cough*.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] problems with miro!-keeps closing

2008-02-02 Thread Kris Douglas
On 02/02/2008, Kris Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 02/02/2008, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Kris Douglas wrote:
   On 02/02/2008, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Javad Ayaz wrote:
   how would i run it from terminal?
  
   Click on Applications, then Accessories and select Terminal.
  
   When the terminal window opens, try entering
  
   miro
  
   and then press enter.  Hopefully it should come up with some text in the
   terminal window which you should be able to copy and paste into an 
   e-mail.
  
   Rob
  
  
   Beat me to it :)
  
   Sorry I didn't get a chance to reply, I'm sorting a laptop out for my
   sister's birthday.
  
 
  A laptop running (k)Ubuntu? :-)
 
  That reminds me, I still have to sort my other half's PC out.  I'm
  reluctant to do it because she wants *cough* Windows XP *cough*.
 
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[ubuntu-uk] ubuntu

2008-02-02 Thread charles
I've just installed Kubuntu
Should I have installed ubuntu instead ?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu

2008-02-02 Thread Alan Pope

On Sat, 2008-02-02 at 20:52 +, charles wrote:
 I've just installed Kubuntu
 Should I have installed ubuntu instead ?

Hi,

Just so you know, this mailing list is not exactly real-time. People
read their mail as and when they can, sometimes hours or days after you
send it. So don't necessarily expect replies uber promptly.

If you want to talk to people in realtime I'd recommend getting on irc.
Open an irc client such as konversation or kopete or maybe xchat. You'll
find some of us hanging out in the #ubuntu-uk irc channel there.

Onto your actual question though..

That's a tricky question to answer. Some people prefer KDE/Kubuntu,
others prefer GNOME/Ubuntu. For a new user I'd suggest trying them both
out and see which one you prefer.

Cheers,
Al.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu

2008-02-02 Thread charles
On Saturday 02 February 2008 21:00, Alan Pope wrote:

 That's a tricky question to answer. Some people prefer KDE/Kubuntu,
 others prefer GNOME/Ubuntu. For a new user I'd suggest trying them both
 out and see which one you prefer.

Thanks very much Al

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pyweek Ubuntu-UK entry?

2008-02-02 Thread Joshua Scotton
I'd be willing to join in with the programming.
I started python last year and this would great fun.

Josh

On Sat, 2008-02-02 at 19:54 +, Alan Pope wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Hope everyone's having a good weekend.
 
 I've noticed that there is a pyweek game development competition coming
 up and the thought entered my head that (some of) Ubuntu-UK might want
 to put heads together and work on an entry.
 
 For those that don't know pyweek is a regular competition that runs for
 a week (this year it's 30th March till 6th April) and involves the
 development of a game in Python.
 
 It's not specifically Linux/Ubuntu based, but clearly we have a viable
 development platform given we have Python / Pygame and all the other
 necessary bits and bobs.
 
 I just wondered if anyone else might be interested in contributing. At
 first glance we would be in need of one or more programmers, musicians,
 artists and testers, along with maybe project management (!) and
 documentation roles to fill. 
 
 Personally I know a little python but not enough to make a nice polished
 game in a week, so I know I can't do this kind of thing on my own. I'd
 see this as a great way to promote our community and show what we can
 get done when we pull together. :)
 
 For more details check out their site and look back through some
 previous entries to get an idea of the level we're aiming at.
 
 http://pyweek.org/ - Site
 http://pyweek.org/6/ - March 2008 competition
 http://www.pyweek.org/d/1282/ - Announcement
 http://media.pyweek.org/static/rules.html - Rules
 
 The two previous entries which I quite like are 'Nelly's Rooftop Garden'
 - http://www.pyweek.org/e/rushed/ , and Trip on the Funny Boat -
 http://www.pyweek.org/e/Pekuja/
 
 Anyone else interested?
 
 Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu

2008-02-02 Thread Sean Miller
You can, of course, use the install CD to go for the default Ubuntu install
and then use Synaptic to install KDE as well... there will then be an option
when signing in to alter which desktop you choose... would also thoroughly
recommend installing Kfce which is the one used in Xubuntu.

You then have three different windows managers and can switch between, which
is very liberating.

I chose Gnome... look forward to your opinions :-)

All the best,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pyweek Ubuntu-UK entry?

2008-02-02 Thread Ronnie Tucker
Alan Pope wrote:
 Hi all,

 Hope everyone's having a good weekend.

 I've noticed that there is a pyweek game development competition coming
 up and the thought entered my head that (some of) Ubuntu-UK might want
 to put heads together and work on an entry.

 For those that don't know pyweek is a regular competition that runs for
 a week (this year it's 30th March till 6th April) and involves the
 development of a game in Python.

 It's not specifically Linux/Ubuntu based, but clearly we have a viable
 development platform given we have Python / Pygame and all the other
 necessary bits and bobs.

 I just wondered if anyone else might be interested in contributing. At
 first glance we would be in need of one or more programmers, musicians,
 artists and testers, along with maybe project management (!) and
 documentation roles to fill. 

 Personally I know a little python but not enough to make a nice polished
 game in a week, so I know I can't do this kind of thing on my own. I'd
 see this as a great way to promote our community and show what we can
 get done when we pull together. :)

 For more details check out their site and look back through some
 previous entries to get an idea of the level we're aiming at.

 http://pyweek.org/ - Site
 http://pyweek.org/6/ - March 2008 competition
 http://www.pyweek.org/d/1282/ - Announcement
 http://media.pyweek.org/static/rules.html - Rules

 The two previous entries which I quite like are 'Nelly's Rooftop Garden'
 - http://www.pyweek.org/e/rushed/ , and Trip on the Funny Boat -
 http://www.pyweek.org/e/Pekuja/

 Anyone else interested?

 Cheers,
 Al.
   
I'd certainly be willing to provide graphics using GIMP if you need any. 
Not done bitmap graphics in a while but I was a whizz with DPaint on my 
Amiga A500  :D

That Rooftop Garden idea is awesome, just goes to show that a good game 
CAN come from a kinda 'technology demo'.  :)


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu

2008-02-02 Thread Iain Lane
Sean Miller wrote:
 You can, of course, use the install CD to go for the default Ubuntu
 install and then use Synaptic to install KDE as well... there will then
 be an option when signing in to alter which desktop you choose... would
 also thoroughly recommend installing Kfce which is the one used in Xubuntu.
 
 You then have three different windows managers and can switch between,
 which is very liberating.
 
 I chose Gnome... look forward to your opinions :-)
 
 All the best,
 
 Sean
 

It's actually Xfce ;)

If you want to try out Kubuntu (KDE) and/or Xubuntu (Xfce) side-by-side
with Ubuntu (GNOME), install the kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop
packages in your favourite package manager.

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