Re: [ubuntu-uk] Podcast - Audio submission guidelines

2008-04-11 Thread Alan Pope
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:32:10AM +0100, Colin McCarthy wrote:
Do you have any guidelines for doing remote recordings, via Skype for
instance?
 

Instant reaction Ugh, Skype!.

I'd recommend either trying Gizmo instead of Skype because it has a built in 
recording function, or alternatively use a real phone and one of these:-

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?criteria=YS78K

During last weeks recording we tested out a modified SIP phone that Dave 
Walker has. It worked okay but it's quite a setup. I'll ask Dave to put some 
detail together about how he did it, so if someone else wants to try, they 
can.

Cheers,
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[ubuntu-uk] TV Nostalgia was: The BBC Launches Wiiplayer

2008-04-11 Thread Alan Pope
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:31:07AM +0100, Andrew Oakley wrote:
 (Spot the broadcasting geek. I have a lovely selection of Test Cards for 
 my X-Screensaver, and am working on broadening my selection of 
 widescreen test cards for my new widescreen laptop. Test Card W is, of 
 course, my favourite, and I plan to personalise it by mocking-up my 
 daughter and her teddybear in front of her easel. Don't yawn - at least 
 I managed to get this thread back on-topic!)
 

http://625.uk.com/ is a great resource for this kind of nostalgia. 

:)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The BBC Launches Wiiplayer??? WHAT!?

2008-04-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hi James,

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 03:46:39PM +0100, Jmaes Edward Grabham wrote:
 Andy Smith wrote:
  On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 06:52:55PM +0100, Jmaes Edward Grabham wrote:

  The BBC is a socialist corporation - you HAVE to pay them BY LAW.  

[...]

  With no financial incentives, they won't do anything.
 
  So by this logic, Channel 4's and Sky's video on demand should
  better cater to Linux users since these profit-driven entities will
  be required to chase the penguin pound, right?
 
  ..right?
 
 Not really, as the cost of porting all the DRM stuff (which at present 
 needs windows media player) to linux would be far to high, they wont 
 bother as the cost of making it available will be several times the 
 capital they will recieve back from us lot using it.

..which sounds like exactly the sort of situation that one would
want a socialist institution then.  You were complaining that the
BBC would never cater to Linux people because they were socialist
and lacked the capitalist incentives.  Now you are saying that
commercial entities also lack the incentives.

Can you really have it both ways?  Or is it your argument that Linux
users can expect to never be catered for by either type of
organisation?

Cheers,
Andy


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The BBC Launches Wiiplayer??? WHAT!?

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Oakley
Steve Cook wrote:
 Channel4 recieve some funds from the licence fee.

Hmm, that's not strictly true.

When Channel 4 moved from regional advertising (originally managed by 
the ITV regions) to national advertising (managed in-house), it did have 
an insurance scheme set up by the government (under the Broadcasting Act 
1990) to provide a minimum income in case its advertising revenue didn't 
meet expectations.

These insurance premiums were partially funded by the licence fee.

The fear was that as the ITV-backed advertising was withdrawn, 
advertisers might stay away from Channel 4 due to its less populist 
programmes. The government tendering process for the fourth channel was 
for a high degree of minority and public service programming. Channel 4, 
as the winning tender, was bound by these restrictions.

As things turned out, advertising revenue always stayed above this 
minimum, and thus:

* The insurance never paid out.
* Ergo Channel 4 never received any money.

The insurance scheme was phased out in 1998.

If you really want to stretch the definition, you could claim that all 
terrestrial broadcasters receive money from the licence fee due to the 
way that the BBC helps pay for the terrestrial transmitter network (it's 
not hard to argue that ITV, Ch4  Five get cheap access to terrestrial 
TV transmitters, both analogue and especially digital), but that 
argument isn't specific to Channel 4. Analogue terrestrial broadcasters 
also receive government/taxpayers' money for party political broadcasts 
and public information films (eg. try not to kill cyclists; don't dangle 
the kettle lead in front of your two-year-old; don't set your duvet on 
fire; if you're not going to get your boiler serviced then at least get 
a CO sensor before you poison yourself to death; put the fscking battery 
back in your smoke alarm you dimwit; remember to breathe; etc.); again 
this isn't specific to Channel 4.

(Spot the broadcasting geek. I have a lovely selection of Test Cards for 
my X-Screensaver, and am working on broadening my selection of 
widescreen test cards for my new widescreen laptop. Test Card W is, of 
course, my favourite, and I plan to personalise it by mocking-up my 
daughter and her teddybear in front of her easel. Don't yawn - at least 
I managed to get this thread back on-topic!)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Podcast - Audio submission guidelines

2008-04-11 Thread Colin McCarthy
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,

 We've had a lot of great feedback about the podcast, and many suggestions,
 offers of help and even offers of audio submissions which is fantastic!

 One question that has cropped up a couple of times is that of audio
 guidelines. So we have put together a braindump of some things we think
 need
 to be considered when making an audio submission.

 http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/audio-submission-guidelines/

 Comments/questions/suggestions welcome.



Do you have any guidelines for doing remote recordings, via Skype for
instance?

I have been following this guide
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SkypeRecordingHowto to set up Skype
recording, but of course due to the lovely Ubuntu updater I am now running
Skype 1.4, which does not work with Skype-rec.

I can't find Skype 1.3 or another solution anywhere on the internets.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The BBC Launches Wiiplayer??? WHAT!?

2008-04-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Steve,

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 07:26:57PM +0100, Steve Cook wrote:
 Channel4 recieve some funds from the licence fee. so should be under
 they some obligations as the BBC.

Not saying this is untrue but do you have a cite for it?

The last I was aware on this issue was:

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/arts_entertainment/media/bbc+may+have+to+share+licence+fee/1986352

10 Apr 2008:
An Ofcom report says the BBC may have to give some of its licence
fee to the commercial broadcasters Channel 4, ITV and Channel 5.

i.e. they don't already.

Even if they did take this money, I don't see how this would
obligate them to do anything but what it is agreed to be used for.

Cheers,
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[ubuntu-uk] Podcast - Audio submission guidelines

2008-04-11 Thread Alan Pope
Hi all,

We've had a lot of great feedback about the podcast, and many suggestions, 
offers of help and even offers of audio submissions which is fantastic!

One question that has cropped up a couple of times is that of audio 
guidelines. So we have put together a braindump of some things we think need 
to be considered when making an audio submission.

http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/audio-submission-guidelines/

Comments/questions/suggestions welcome.

Thanks all
Al.

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[ubuntu-uk] Sharing printer with Cups on Ubuntu server

2008-04-11 Thread Rob Beard
Hi folks,

My other half has recently got herself a new printer which she wants  
to use with her laptop (running Windows XP) although she doesn't want  
to be sat right next to the printer to use it.

Now being a bit of a cheap skate and having lots of old bits lying  
around I thought I'd build a PC to share the printer on the network,  
and maybe also a USB hard drive too.

I thought to keep the requirements down I would use Ubuntu server  
(possibly 7.10 to start with and then 8.04 when it's released in a  
couple of weeks).  Now sharing the hard drive isn't a problem, I'm  
quite happy to setup Samba so the drive can be shared, the problem I'm  
anticipating is with CUPS.

Now I've happily setup printers on Ubuntu (well it's fool proof for  
the printer I have, I just plug it in), but I've not tried it on  
Ubuntu Server.

Is there any web interface built into CUPS that I can install the  
printer and setup sharing with?

Rob




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sharing printer with Cups on Ubuntu server

2008-04-11 Thread Lucy
On 11/04/2008, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Is there any web interface built into CUPS that I can install the
  printer and setup sharing with?

The CUPS web interface is installed by default at http://localhost:631

There are options under the the Administration tab to share the
printer, although I've not tried it myself.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sharing printer with Cups on Ubuntu server

2008-04-11 Thread andylockran
Lucy wrote:
 On 11/04/2008, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
  Is there any web interface built into CUPS that I can install the
  printer and setup sharing with?
 

 The CUPS web interface is installed by default at http://localhost:631

 There are options under the the Administration tab to share the
 printer, although I've not tried it myself.

   
Even when I've setup up cups machines on localhost with a GUI, i've
often just used the web-interface @ localhost.

Your best bet is to create an ssh tunnel in from your own ubuntu machine
like so:

ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3456:loclahost:631

then, when you browse to localhost:3456 - it'll forward to localhost:631
on your printer server.  That just makes the configuration options make
sense (remote admin is disabled by default - but to the box you now look
like a localhost user).

Then it's pretty much a nice standard web-based GUI for configuration.

Best of Luck!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sharing printer with Cups on Ubuntu server

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Oakley
Rob Beard wrote:
 (possibly 7.10 to start with and then 8.04 when it's released in a  

8.04 is as stable as damnit right now. I've been testing it since 
December, and as of about two weeks ago (Beta), I have had no instabilities.

 Is there any web interface built into CUPS that I can install the  
 printer and setup sharing with?

Lucy wrote:
  The CUPS web interface is installed by default at http://localhost:631

That means it can't be accessed from another machine on the network, 
only from the server itself. This can be changed to listen to all 
network interfaces (ie. so you can configure it from your laptop 
elsewhere on the network) by changing /etc/cups/cupsd.conf from:

# Only listen for connections from the local machine.
Listen localhost:631

to:

# COMMENTED OUT: # Only listen for connections from the local machine.
# COMMENTED OUT: Listen localhost:631
# Listen to all interfaces
Listen *:631

You also need to add:

   Allow @LOCAL

...to the following sections:

Location /admin

Location /admin/conf

...then restart the service with /etc/init.d/cupsys restart . Then 
something like http://192.168.whatever.whatever:631 will work from 
another machine on the LAN.

Note that this gives admin access to everyone on the LAN, which most 
people would consider as insecure. You'll probably want to return it to 
Listen localhost:631 and remove Allow @LOCAL from the admin and 
admin/conf sections once you have configured the system.

Alternatively you could use an SSH tunnel to achieve remote access to 
localhost, without needing to change the conf file.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The BBC Launches Wiiplayer??? WHAT!?

2008-04-11 Thread Sean Miller
Not sure Channel 5 get access to these transmitters... surely that's why so
much of the country still can't get it, because it relies on their own
hardware?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The BBC Launches Wiiplayer??? WHAT!?

2008-04-11 Thread James Grabham
No linux users wont be catered for, but youre not paying c4/sky for
something you cant use, you are with the beeb

On 11/04/2008, Andy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi James,

 On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 03:46:39PM +0100, Jmaes Edward Grabham wrote:
  Andy Smith wrote:
   On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 06:52:55PM +0100, Jmaes Edward Grabham wrote:
  
   The BBC is a socialist corporation - you HAVE to pay them BY LAW.

 [...]

   With no financial incentives, they won't do anything.
  
   So by this logic, Channel 4's and Sky's video on demand should
   better cater to Linux users since these profit-driven entities will
   be required to chase the penguin pound, right?
  
   ..right?
 
  Not really, as the cost of porting all the DRM stuff (which at present
  needs windows media player) to linux would be far to high, they wont
  bother as the cost of making it available will be several times the
  capital they will recieve back from us lot using it.

 ..which sounds like exactly the sort of situation that one would
 want a socialist institution then.  You were complaining that the
 BBC would never cater to Linux people because they were socialist
 and lacked the capitalist incentives.  Now you are saying that
 commercial entities also lack the incentives.

 Can you really have it both ways?  Or is it your argument that Linux
 users can expect to never be catered for by either type of
 organisation?

 Cheers,
 Andy



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sharing printer with Cups on Ubuntu server

2008-04-11 Thread Rob Beard
Andrew Oakley wrote:
 Rob Beard wrote:
 (possibly 7.10 to start with and then 8.04 when it's released in a  
 
 8.04 is as stable as damnit right now. I've been testing it since 
 December, and as of about two weeks ago (Beta), I have had no instabilities.
 

I guess, it seems fairly stable on my desktop and since it's not doing 
anything mission critical then I'm sure it'll be fine.

I've just had a look at the printer, I didn't realise it's a 
printer/scanner/copier!

It is supported on Linux (it's a Samsung CLX-2160 Colour 
Laser/Scanner/Copier) which is supplied with Linux drivers.  Sods law 
though I bet installing the Linux drivers will only allow me to print 
from Windows and not scan from the Windows machine over the network.

Saying that though, Samsung do have a networked version of the printer 
so maybe it's possible.

I'll have a look at the Windows driver and see what it says.

Rob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The BBC Launches Wiiplayer??? WHAT!?

2008-04-11 Thread Steve Cook

On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 11:31 +0100, Andrew Oakley wrote:
 Steve Cook wrote:
  Channel4 receive some funds from the licence fee.
 
 Hmm, that's not strictly true.
 
I've put 2 and 10 togetrher and got IV :-)
I've obviously misunderstood the origin of this thanks for the
enlightenment.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sharing printer with Cups on Ubuntu server

2008-04-11 Thread Mark Allison
http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:F...indows_machinehttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_print_on_remote_Ubuntu_machine_from_a_Windows_machine
http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:F...Ubuntu_machinehttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_print_on_remote_Ubuntu_machine_from_another_Ubuntu_machine

Enjoy. I have a print server set up on Ubuntu server serving Mac OS Leopard,
Ubuntu clients, XP and Vista.

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Andrew Oakley wrote:
  Rob Beard wrote:
  (possibly 7.10 to start with and then 8.04 when it's released in a
 
  8.04 is as stable as damnit right now. I've been testing it since
  December, and as of about two weeks ago (Beta), I have had no
 instabilities.
 

 I guess, it seems fairly stable on my desktop and since it's not doing
 anything mission critical then I'm sure it'll be fine.

 I've just had a look at the printer, I didn't realise it's a
 printer/scanner/copier!

 It is supported on Linux (it's a Samsung CLX-2160 Colour
 Laser/Scanner/Copier) which is supplied with Linux drivers.  Sods law
 though I bet installing the Linux drivers will only allow me to print
 from Windows and not scan from the Windows machine over the network.

 Saying that though, Samsung do have a networked version of the printer
 so maybe it's possible.

 I'll have a look at the Windows driver and see what it says.

 Rob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sharing printer with Cups on Ubuntu server

2008-04-11 Thread Daniel Lamb
On top of that if you want a nice little script i have attached one here
I found and have used.

Simply add a bat extension at the end and it will map the printer
automatically to your windows pc.

If you need any help with writing it let me know. 

Works very well.

Regards,
Daniel

On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 21:41 +0100, Mark Allison wrote:

 http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:F...indows_machine
 http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:F...Ubuntu_machine
 
 Enjoy. I have a print server set up on Ubuntu server serving Mac OS
 Leopard, Ubuntu clients, XP and Vista.
 
 
 On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Andrew Oakley wrote:
  Rob Beard wrote:
  (possibly 7.10 to start with and then 8.04 when it's
 released in a
 
  8.04 is as stable as damnit right now. I've been testing it
 since
  December, and as of about two weeks ago (Beta), I have had
 no instabilities.
 
 
 
 
 I guess, it seems fairly stable on my desktop and since it's
 not doing
 anything mission critical then I'm sure it'll be fine.
 
 I've just had a look at the printer, I didn't realise it's a
 printer/scanner/copier!
 
 It is supported on Linux (it's a Samsung CLX-2160 Colour
 Laser/Scanner/Copier) which is supplied with Linux drivers.
  Sods law
 though I bet installing the Linux drivers will only allow me
 to print
 from Windows and not scan from the Windows machine over the
 network.
 
 Saying that though, Samsung do have a networked version of the
 printer
 so maybe it's possible.
 
 I'll have a look at the Windows driver and see what it says.
 
 Rob
 
 
 
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:: Example XP CMD script to install a cups printer.
:: 12 Oct 2006 I hereby place this script in the public domain, nyer.
:: ~~ The Anonymous Author (yes, me!).

:: The script will work happily from remote SAMBA shares even without 
:: mapping them to a drive letter. It expects the needed files to live
:: in subdirectories with names that you can figure out, see below.

:: Uses path variable %~dp0 documented at 
:: http://www.ss64.com/ntsyntax/parameters.html
:: This is because CMD doesn't like using a UNC path as the current
:: directory.

:: Note that XCOPY doesn't like \\ in the middle of a path.
:: %~dp0 includes \ at the end.
:: But %~dp0somefile.ext is unreadable to humans.
:: XCOPY doesn't mind \.\ in the middle of a path.
:: %~dp0.\somefile.ext is more visually readable.

:: Set some variables to make modifying this script easier.

:: Substitute values here to match your CUPS server.
SET SERVERNAME=cups
SET PRINT_SERVER=http://%SERVERNAME%.example.com
SET PRINT_BASE_URL=%PRINT_SERVER%:631/printers

:: Set the CUPS printer name here for the (first) printer to install.
SET PRINTERNAME=my_printer

:: Set file locations here. (Tests if the file is accessible too.)
SET INF=%~dp0.\cups_unified_driver\cups-windows-6.0\i386\cups6.inf
IF NOT EXIST %INF% EXIT /b 1

:: This next value matches something in the .inf file.
:: Easy to figure out what.
:: Tip: Use notepad to open your .inf and guess it.
SET STRING=CUPS Test Driver v6

:: You may want to shorten this a little, depends on your setup.
SET BASENAME=%PRINTERNAME%_using_cups_driver_on_%SERVERNAME%_ipp

:: This doesn't need change unless you have a wierd CUPS setup.
SET URL=%PRINT_BASE_URL%/%PRINTERNAME%

:: Now the action! Install the (first) printer.

:: Install and configure printer driver.
%WINDIR%\System32\RUNDLL32.EXE printui.dll,PrintUIEntry /b %BASENAME% /if 
/f %INF% /u /r %URL% /m %STRING%
IF NOT ERRORLEVEL %ERRORLEVEL%==ERRORLEVEL 0 EXIT /b 1

:: You can add more printers in here...
::  repeat from SET PRINTERNAME... onwards if you want ...

:: Finally, once all printers added, restart the printer service.
START /WAIT Stop spooler %WINDIR%\System32\SC.EXE STOP spooler
IF NOT ERRORLEVEL %ERRORLEVEL%==ERRORLEVEL 0 EXIT /b 1
START /WAIT Start spooler %WINDIR%\System32\SC.EXE START spooler
IF NOT ERRORLEVEL %ERRORLEVEL%==ERRORLEVEL 0 EXIT /b 1

ECHO Completed %100, no errors detected.
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