Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Podcast Episode 5 out!
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all.. We released episode 5 of the podcast today. Here's the link:- http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2008/05/07/s01e05-everybody-come-aboard/ As always feedback and comments are welcome, both positive and negative. Thanks, Al. Well done guys, another great show! Becky and I had a good laugh listening to it over breakfast :D Also, I now know how awesome Tony is at editing. R.E.S.P.E.C.T. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Podcast Episode 5 out!
On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 00:04 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: Hi all.. We released episode 5 of the podcast today. Here's the link:- http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2008/05/07/s01e05-everybody-come-aboard/ As always feedback and comments are welcome, both positive and negative. Hi, Great show once again. There was some discussion of apt vs. update-manager, and I wanted to add a couple of comments to that. update-manager does a few things over and above what apt does. Firstly it is given some knowledge about Ubuntu, so, for example if you have ubuntu-desktop installed when it runs it won't allow it to be removed, whereas apt may remove it if there are conflicts or similar. This means that when you upgrade you will stay with Ubuntu and get the new stuff for this release and all the following ones. Another thing it does is run some extra scripts after upgrading all of the packages. These do distro-wide transitions, and as such can't go in the packages themselves. This could be things like cleaning up after the python 2.4 - 2.5 transition, or removing obsolete packages. This is more important for LTS-LTS upgrades, as they require more things like this. You can use apt to upgrade if you wish, and you will still have a working system. However you may have to do some things manually which update-manager would do for you. Note that if you are the sort of person that upgrades at alpha/beta time or even earlier then update-manager will buy you very little. Thanks, James -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Podcast Episode 5 out!
Hi Jai, On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 09:44 +0100, Jai Harrison wrote: Just heard it. Nice 'cast :) Thanks! I'm not sure who was having issues with a game's audio in Hardy but I That would be me. Enemy Territory is the game that I have yet to get sound working on. would try running it through padsp if I was you. That's solved my Wine sound issues (including with Wine games). It claims there's a small delay but it must be so small as I haven't been able to notice it. Not sure if that'll help because it's not running under WINE, it's a native app. Will have a go over the weekend though, thanks! Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] problem with lite on DVD?
Hi, I cant get my DVD rom to burn. To be specific Its a Lite on 20A1H. I was using a TDK +RW but for some reason it wont burn. I can burn a normal dvd non RW dvd. and CD as well. Can anyone suggest what i could try to solve this problem? I have posted this prob beforeis it a prob with Lite on and TDK? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] problem with lite on DVD?
i found this All is about to change with the Lite-On LH-20A1Hhttp://us.liteonit.com/us/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=204Itemid=67, which claims to write DVD-R and DVD+R discs at up to 20-speed. It's also compatiable with 8-speed DVD+RW discs, 6-speed DVD-RW discs and dual-layer discs. On 08/05/2008, Kris Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the drive support rw? Some older ones only support single write dvd's. Try getting some single write disks from tesco for a few quid. On 5/8/08, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I cant get my DVD rom to burn. To be specific Its a Lite on 20A1H. I was using a TDK +RW but for some reason it wont burn. I can burn a normal dvd non RW dvd. and CD as well. Can anyone suggest what i could try to solve this problem? I have posted this prob beforeis it a prob with Lite on and TDK? -- Sent from Google Mail for mobile | mobile.google.com Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Company No. 6135915 Registered in England And Northern Ireland -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small low powered Linux box running Xu buntu for £99
i smell a torrents machine thingy..lol 2008/5/8 Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just been reading The Register about a new MSI Mini-ITX based PC that that's being released for about £235. Reading through the comments, someone posted this... http://www.viglen.co.uk/viglen/Products_Services/Product_Range/Product_file.aspx?eCode=XUBUMBCLType_Info=DescriptionType=DesktopsGUID=22166764417 It doesn't say exactly what spec it is but it does have a 40GB hard drive, 4 x USB2 ports and it comes preinstalled with Xubuntu. I can only assume it has something like an AMD Geode or VIA C7 CPU in there. Still for £99 it's a really good price and would make a lovely little Linux box that as show on the site can be mounted on the back of a TFT monitor. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small low powered Linux box running Xu buntu for £99
Rob Beard wrote: Just been reading The Register about a new MSI Mini-ITX based PC that that's being released for about £235. Reading through the comments, someone posted this... http://www.viglen.co.uk/viglen/Products_Services/Product_Range/Product_file.aspx?eCode=XUBUMBCLType_Info=DescriptionType=DesktopsGUID=22166764417 It doesn't say exactly what spec it is but it does have a 40GB hard drive, 4 x USB2 ports and it comes preinstalled with Xubuntu. I can only assume it has something like an AMD Geode or VIA C7 CPU in there. Still for £99 it's a really good price and would make a lovely little Linux box that as show on the site can be mounted on the back of a TFT monitor. Rob Looks about the same size as that aleutia pc, i.e. it can be monitor mounted, but with an included 40gb hdd rather than running from a cf card and half the price. Tasty indeed. Adam. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small low powered Linux box running Xu buntu for £99
Javad Ayaz wrote: i smell a torrents machine thingy..lol Yep, no doubt you can upgrade the hard drive and memory, and with USB2 on there it would probably happily run a big external hard drive and printer. Just what I need for my new printer/scanner/copier. I was a bit wrong on the price though, it's £99 plus VAT delivery, so no doubt nearer to about £130. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small low powered Linux box running Xu buntu for £99
James Grabham wrote: I smell server On 5/8/08, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Javad Ayaz wrote: i smell a torrents machine thingy..lol Yep, no doubt you can upgrade the hard drive and memory, and with USB2 on there it would probably happily run a big external hard drive and printer. Just what I need for my new printer/scanner/copier. I was a bit wrong on the price though, it's £99 plus VAT delivery, so no doubt nearer to about £130. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ Just poking about on their site you can order one here. http://www.viglen.co.uk/devportal/std/storefront/qna.asp?part_no=MPCWEBecode=XUBUMPCLsector=firstpass=1guid=22084573063 Click the information link and it says 256mb RAM but the order links says it comes with XP? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] A Possible Experiment
Hey all, I brought this up on the IRC channel earlier and thought I'd put it to a wider audience. A few days ago, I saw someones blog post[1] which described them giving their better half a machine with Ubuntu on and asking them to do some simple tasks. The results from which was quite interesting. My thought was why isn't something like this done on a larger scale. I propsed this to the IRC group this morning and was pointed to a similar thing Novell do[2]. Now based on this, there's no reason why we couldn't do something similar (if not better). The idea is generally that we create some tasks, from write a letter to Trudy, to connect to a wireless network, and then record someone doing said task. We'd need to video them doing the task, possibly the desktop, and their facial expression. This could then be fed back into the design of the user interface and the general user experience. It would also be a way to get some publicity. Now I'm not much of a gui person, so I'm not sure what information would be useful to the people that are, but even just talking to people and finding out what they think is right or wrong (even if their method of completing the task says otherwise) could be useful and/or interesting. If any gui people can think of useful data they'd want, then please let me know! We have had the idea of finding people who haven't used a computer before, but that might be more difficult in this modern age. The idea of testing the three major operating systems with different people is also not a bad one. Does anyone have any thoughts on this, or is it just a wild pipe dream that wouldn't be of any use to anyone? I'm open for to all comments and suggestions, please do say if you think it's a terrible idea and point out why. -Matt Daubney [1]http://contentconsumer.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/is-ubuntu-useable-enough-for-my-girlfriend/ [2]http://www.betterdesktop.org/blog/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small low powered Linux box running Xu buntu for £99
On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 08:27:35PM +0100, Adam Bagnall wrote: Just poking about on their site you can order one here. http://www.viglen.co.uk/devportal/std/storefront/qna.asp?part_no=MPCWEBecode=XUBUMPCLsector=firstpass=1guid=22084573063 Click the information link and it says 256mb RAM but the order links says it comes with XP? A Mandrake Linux CD is priced at -£45, so you can save by upgrading away from Windows. -- Gav Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://revford.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk I think we need to: Bounce the flux breaker signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small low powered Linux box running Xu buntu for £99
And upgrade from 40GB to 80GB for £0.00 still comes to over £99 though On 5/8/08, Gavin Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 08:27:35PM +0100, Adam Bagnall wrote: Just poking about on their site you can order one here. http://www.viglen.co.uk/devportal/std/storefront/qna.asp?part_no=MPCWEBecode=XUBUMPCLsector=firstpass=1guid=22084573063 Click the information link and it says 256mb RAM but the order links says it comes with XP? A Mandrake Linux CD is priced at -£45, so you can save by upgrading away from Windows. -- Gav Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://revford.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk I think we need to: Bounce the flux breaker -- Mr JE Grabham -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small low powered Linux box running Xu buntu for £99
Gavin Ford wrote: On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 08:27:35PM +0100, Adam Bagnall wrote: Just poking about on their site you can order one here. http://www.viglen.co.uk/devportal/std/storefront/qna.asp?part_no=MPCWEBecode=XUBUMPCLsector=firstpass=1guid=22084573063 Click the information link and it says 256mb RAM but the order links says it comes with XP? A Mandrake Linux CD is priced at -£45, so you can save by upgrading away from Windows. Even removing everything I can to make it cheaper I still can't get it to £99+vat+del. Maybe that's for bulk orders only as their site seems mainly geared towards the public sector. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small low powered Linux box running Xu buntu for £99
Adam Bagnall wrote: Gavin Ford wrote: On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 08:27:35PM +0100, Adam Bagnall wrote: Just poking about on their site you can order one here. http://www.viglen.co.uk/devportal/std/storefront/qna.asp?part_no=MPCWEBecode=XUBUMPCLsector=firstpass=1guid=22084573063 Click the information link and it says 256mb RAM but the order links says it comes with XP? A Mandrake Linux CD is priced at -£45, so you can save by upgrading away from Windows. Even removing everything I can to make it cheaper I still can't get it to £99+vat+del. Maybe that's for bulk orders only as their site seems mainly geared towards the public sector. Just had another look at their web site and found this... http://www.viglen.co.uk/webmail/5star-offers.html It says to call 'your account manager'. Might be worth a call to them to see how much a single unit is on it's own. My guess though if it's going to be nearer £200, a MiniITX based PC might work out cheaper. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small low powered Linux box running Xu buntu for £99
Adam Bagnall wrote: Gavin Ford wrote: On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 08:27:35PM +0100, Adam Bagnall wrote: Just poking about on their site you can order one here. http://www.viglen.co.uk/devportal/std/storefront/qna.asp?part_no=MPCWEBecode=XUBUMPCLsector=firstpass=1guid=22084573063 Click the information link and it says 256mb RAM but the order links says it comes with XP? A Mandrake Linux CD is priced at -£45, so you can save by upgrading away from Windows. Even removing everything I can to make it cheaper I still can't get it to £99+vat+del. Maybe that's for bulk orders only as their site seems mainly geared towards the public sector. Cheapest I managed to get it was £175. £20 delivery seems very steep for something so small! Oh well, maybe it isn't such a great offer after all. :( Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/