[ubuntu-uk] Fiddling with System

2008-08-18 Thread Ken Adams
Just thought I'd post the results of a small bit of fiddling I have done
on my system, To see if I can do it!!! in the true spirit of the Linux
world.

I have a GeForce FX 5500 graphics card with 256Mb ram running on my
system with an Acer AL1702 monitor running 1280x1024 resolution. On the
back of the graphics card is a DVI output.

Having visited a local PC emporium I know have a DVI-VGA converter
attached and a Dell P791 17 CRT monitor running 1024x768 resolution.
After looking round the nvidia-settings panel I have now setup the 2nd
monitor on the left side, NOT running Xinerama.

Result:

I now have a fully working second desktop on the Dell Monitor, Fully
functional with its' own taskbar etc. Very handy for watching video
files and still having a fully functioning EMPTY desktop on my main
monitor.

Just thought I'd pass on my findings to show it can be down EASILY,

Rgds Ken


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fiddling with System

2008-08-18 Thread Rob Beard
Ken Adams wrote:

 I now have a fully working second desktop on the Dell Monitor, Fully
 functional with its' own taskbar etc. Very handy for watching video
 files and still having a fully functioning EMPTY desktop on my main
 monitor.
 
 Just thought I'd pass on my findings to show it can be down EASILY,
 

But do you have an independent mouse and screen for that other desktop?

I also tried this and I could get as far as getting things like mplayer 
working by specifying which desktop to use but I wasn't able to get 
independent mouse/keyboard control on that desktop using a USB mouse  
keyboard.

I gave up in the end.

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[ubuntu-uk] UKTeam parts exchange proposal

2008-08-18 Thread Philip Wyett
Hi all,

Having a bit of a clear out of smaller PC hardware... I thought better
than throwing things away, could I offer good working components for
other UKTeam members who may make good use of it?

Thanks to Ging for the initial idea of using the team wiki for parts
exchange! :-)

I would like to propose such a section where essentially:

* Listing hardware.

Person offering hardware will list hardware with as detailed spec as
possible and a contact email address.

Note: The wiki will have a column that will show if the hardware is
available or not. Page mock-up to follow in next 48 hours.

* Requesting a listed item.

A UK Team member will request a piece of available hardware by email to
the person offering.

* Confirmation of allocation and sending items.

The offering person will allocate (on a first come first served basis)
and notify a user by email if they are to be sent a piece of requested
hardware.

The requester will supply a UK mailing address for the hardware by
email.

Note: Be aware you will have peoples private data. Please show due
respect when storing and handling it!

The offering person upon receipt of an address shall send the item and
mark the item on the wiki as allocated/sent.

Postage costs shall be paid by the offering person and no request for
postage costs or other money shall be made to the recipient!

* Receipt of item.

The recipient shall mark the wiki for that item as received when they
get the hardware.

* Warranty.

No sent item will have warranty or a guarantee to work. No communication
shall be entered into directly with the sender about working or non
working state of items. Any support requests should be made through
normal channels i.e. mailing lists, IRC etc.

* Primary contact.

I am willing to be a primary contact via email for this project, but all
emails should have the subject 'UKTeam parts exchange. Look I get a few
thousand emails a day and if not marked maybe missed or a delay may
ensue. 

Feedback welcome. :-)

P.S. CC me for discussion on list for the moment on this subject as I am
having a bad delay in getting list email from Ubuntu at the moment. :-(

Regards

Phil


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fiddling with System

2008-08-18 Thread Andrew Ball

Hello Rob,

  RB I also tried this and I could get as far as getting
 things like mplayer working by specifying which
 desktop to use but I wasn't able to get independent
 mouse/keyboard control on that desktop using a USB
 mouse  keyboard.

If you have a VNC server instance running on the desktop
that you're trying to control, x2vnc might work.  My wife's
PC used to sit next to mine and every now and again I'd drag
my mouse pointer off the left-hand edge of my screen, onto
hers and start moving her windows around.  Perhaps you can
imagine how popular that made me.  :-)

Hope this helps,
  - Andy Ball


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] stickers free with Linux Format Magazine this month

2008-08-18 Thread James Edward Grabham
On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 09:19:40PM +0100, Andrew Oakley wrote:
 
 As a subscriber I also received the stickers, and was very impressed and 
 very, very happy.
 
 Sean Miller wrote:
  two back the man said blimey! £5.95? that's expensive -- and it is,
 ...
  I don't actually NEED any of the stuff on the DVD most months - it'd
  be nice to have the option to not receive it.
 
 Yes, yes, yes.
 
  Why do I want a copy of Mandriva 2000 if I'm happily running Ubuntu,
  or OpenSUSE or whatever else (which I could download anyway)
 
 Well, I can kind of see the point in encouraging people to try other 
 distros, especially the special-purpose ones such as Damn Small Linux. 
 But it's a British magazine. We've all got broadband. I live in an 
 extremely rural area, and even I can get 2Mbit/sec.
 

Lucky you, I have several thousand people living in between me, and the 
exchange, which is on the other side of the city; I love the DVD because 
I like to have a collection of different distros I can try out, and I 
cant download them, due to lack of bandwith :(  I need the DVDs ;) 


P.S. just subscribed and got the stickers instead of the promised 
mug - I'm not amused, but I still got it for 15p a quarter cheaper than 
the new subscription offers with the stickers.

James

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] stickers free with Linux Format Magazine this month

2008-08-18 Thread Martin Meredith
On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 18:48 +0100, Sean Miller wrote:
 Anyone lament the days when you used to have multiple options for
 magazines?  CD edition or DVD edition, magazine itself still the same.
 
 When I bought a copy of Linux Format at Paddington Station a year or
 two back the man said blimey! £5.95? that's expensive -- and it is,
 compared to things like Motor Racing magazines etc. which are normally
 £3-4.
 
 I don't actually NEED any of the stuff on the DVD most months - it'd
 be nice to have the option to not receive it.
 
 Why do I want a copy of Mandriva 2000 if I'm happily running Ubuntu,
 or OpenSUSE or whatever else (which I could download anyway)
 
 Am I alone in this thought?

I don't NEED any of the stuff on the DVDs either, but I like having it
there... I find that if I have a new machine to play with - I'll
generally grab a copy of a distro from one of my old DVDs, and play with
that... Or... just have a browse round it... (as there are sometimes
things on there that I forget from a tiny article, like toribashi :D -
awesomeness !)

But, yeah, I don't NEED it, but sometimes, there are useful articles on
there.. I still have LXF's PHP Series in PDF sitting on my hard drive,
which was only available from the DVD... While it's not always needed,
there are sometimes those little extras on the DVD that make it
worthwhile having it - I'd be less happy to find I'd missed something
cool on the DVD and then have to go full price for it, than pay a lower
price for the subscription, and have the DVD come with it... Even if the
DVD doesn't ever get put in a machine!


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[ubuntu-uk] Advanced vi/vim command - commenting out a large section

2008-08-18 Thread Johnathon Tinsley
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Hello,

We sometimes need to quickly comment out a, for example, vhost config in
vi. Now, I've worked out that you can add the first comment #, ESC and
then hit DOWN, FULL-STOP, DOWN, FULL-STOP etc to quickly comment out
multiple lines.

But, what I'd love, is a way I can type say 11 command and get it to
turn 11 lines into a comment.

Does anyone know of a nice way to do that in vim?

Johnathon


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advanced vi/vim command - commenting out a large section

2008-08-18 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
Quoting Johnathon Tinsley [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

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 Hello,

 We sometimes need to quickly comment out a, for example, vhost config in
 vi. Now, I've worked out that you can add the first comment #, ESC and
 then hit DOWN, FULL-STOP, DOWN, FULL-STOP etc to quickly comment out
 multiple lines.

 But, what I'd love, is a way I can type say 11 command and get it to
 turn 11 lines into a comment.

 Does anyone know of a nice way to do that in vim?

CTRL-v (number), DOWN ARROW, SHIFT-i, #, ESC, DOWN ARROW

works for me...

M.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advanced vi/vim command - commenting out a large section

2008-08-18 Thread DarkOtter
  But, what I'd love, is a way I can type say 11 command and get it to
  turn 11 lines into a comment.
 
  Does anyone know of a nice way to do that in vim?

It's a little bit hacky, but the way I do that is to do a substitute with the
'start of line' token in the regexp. That way you can use a standard vim range
e.g. 1,10 to do lines 1 to 11

I just do e.g. :{range}s/^/# /

Probably not the best way to do it. Is there a prepend command in vim? That
would be more appropriate.


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[ubuntu-uk] transcriber question

2008-08-18 Thread Mac
Made curious by the podcast transcribing thread, I've installed 
Transcriber to try it out.  I find the sound crackly, and the playback 
speed too fast - both of which reduce intelligibility quite badly -  but 
can't see a way of adjusting either.  Am I missing something?

Mac



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advanced vi/vim command - commenting out a large section

2008-08-18 Thread LeeGroups

 But, what I'd love, is a way I can type say 11 command and get it to
 turn 11 lines into a comment.

 Does anyone know of a nice way to do that in vim?
 

 CTRL-v (number), DOWN ARROW, SHIFT-i, #, ESC, DOWN ARROW

 works for me...
And people wonder why VIM has a bad reputation LOL...


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advanced vi/vim command - commenting out a large section

2008-08-18 Thread DarkOtter
 It's a little bit hacky, but the way I do that is to do a substitute with the
 'start of line' token in the regexp. That way you can use a standard vim range
 e.g. 1,10 to do lines 1 to 11

EDIT: I forgot, if you want to do a range from the current cursor position you
can do it as '.,+x' where x is the number of lines after the one you're on.

e.g. ':.,+4s/^/# /' would comment out the line you're on and the four after it.

Also, you could use the program 'boxes' with the range if you want, e.g.
':.,+4!boxes -d shell'.

P.S. Sorry for double posting, I should think longer before I send to avoid
forgetting stuff :P

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UKTeam parts exchange proposal

2008-08-18 Thread Philip Wyett
On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 12:46 +0100, Philip Wyett wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Having a bit of a clear out of smaller PC hardware... I thought better
 than throwing things away, could I offer good working components for
 other UKTeam members who may make good use of it?
 
 Thanks to Ging for the initial idea of using the team wiki for parts
 exchange! :-)
 
 I would like to propose such a section where essentially:
 
 * Listing hardware.
 
 Person offering hardware will list hardware with as detailed spec as
 possible and a contact email address.
 
 Note: The wiki will have a column that will show if the hardware is
 available or not. Page mock-up to follow in next 48 hours.
 
 * Requesting a listed item.
 
 A UK Team member will request a piece of available hardware by email to
 the person offering.
 
 * Confirmation of allocation and sending items.
 
 The offering person will allocate (on a first come first served basis)
 and notify a user by email if they are to be sent a piece of requested
 hardware.
 
 The requester will supply a UK mailing address for the hardware by
 email.
 
 Note: Be aware you will have peoples private data. Please show due
 respect when storing and handling it!
 
 The offering person upon receipt of an address shall send the item and
 mark the item on the wiki as allocated/sent.
 
 Postage costs shall be paid by the offering person and no request for
 postage costs or other money shall be made to the recipient!
 
 * Receipt of item.
 
 The recipient shall mark the wiki for that item as received when they
 get the hardware.
 
 * Warranty.
 
 No sent item will have warranty or a guarantee to work. No communication
 shall be entered into directly with the sender about working or non
 working state of items. Any support requests should be made through
 normal channels i.e. mailing lists, IRC etc.
 
 * Primary contact.
 
 I am willing to be a primary contact via email for this project, but all
 emails should have the subject 'UKTeam parts exchange. Look I get a few
 thousand emails a day and if not marked maybe missed or a delay may
 ensue. 
 
 Feedback welcome. :-)
 
 P.S. CC me for discussion on list for the moment on this subject as I am
 having a bad delay in getting list email from Ubuntu at the moment. :-(
 
 Regards
 
 Phil

A mockup page for review and feedback can be viewed at:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhilWyett/MockUps/PartsExchange

Regards

Phil


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UKTeam parts exchange proposal

2008-08-18 Thread Daniel Lamb

Looks good,

I shall list some of my hardware on there also.

Regards,
Daniel

Philip Wyett wrote:

On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 12:46 +0100, Philip Wyett wrote:
  

Hi all,

Having a bit of a clear out of smaller PC hardware... I thought better
than throwing things away, could I offer good working components for
other UKTeam members who may make good use of it?

Thanks to Ging for the initial idea of using the team wiki for parts
exchange! :-)

I would like to propose such a section where essentially:

* Listing hardware.

Person offering hardware will list hardware with as detailed spec as
possible and a contact email address.

Note: The wiki will have a column that will show if the hardware is
available or not. Page mock-up to follow in next 48 hours.

* Requesting a listed item.

A UK Team member will request a piece of available hardware by email to
the person offering.

* Confirmation of allocation and sending items.

The offering person will allocate (on a first come first served basis)
and notify a user by email if they are to be sent a piece of requested
hardware.

The requester will supply a UK mailing address for the hardware by
email.

Note: Be aware you will have peoples private data. Please show due
respect when storing and handling it!

The offering person upon receipt of an address shall send the item and
mark the item on the wiki as allocated/sent.

Postage costs shall be paid by the offering person and no request for
postage costs or other money shall be made to the recipient!

* Receipt of item.

The recipient shall mark the wiki for that item as received when they
get the hardware.

* Warranty.

No sent item will have warranty or a guarantee to work. No communication
shall be entered into directly with the sender about working or non
working state of items. Any support requests should be made through
normal channels i.e. mailing lists, IRC etc.

* Primary contact.

I am willing to be a primary contact via email for this project, but all
emails should have the subject 'UKTeam parts exchange. Look I get a few
thousand emails a day and if not marked maybe missed or a delay may
ensue. 


Feedback welcome. :-)

P.S. CC me for discussion on list for the moment on this subject as I am
having a bad delay in getting list email from Ubuntu at the moment. :-(

Regards

Phil



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Regards

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[ubuntu-uk] DFEY Meeting :: 31st August :: Manchester :: Digital Freedom in Education and Youth - North West

2008-08-18 Thread Tim Dobson
Please forward this to any other lists or people who you think might be 
interested.
===

DFEY-NW[1] (Digital Freedom in Education  Youth - North West) is a 
group focusing on young people and issues of freedom in the digital 
world, based in the Northwest of England at the moment.


| In Brief |


WHERE:Meet near KFC, Upstairs, Piccadilly Station, Manchester
WHEN: 12:30pm - ~4pm
SIGN UP:  http://is.gd/1ITm
CONTACT:  Email - td at tdobson dot net

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| Meeting |
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As decided by the previous poll, the meeting will be held on Sunday the 
31st of August in Manchester.

Due to some people having had difficulty finding the venue in the past, 
I suggest we meet *upstairs* not far from KFC at Piccadilly train 
station at about 12:30pm (look for geeks, laptops, t-shirts, stickers etc.).

Once everyone has arrived, we will then move on to the nearby child 
friendly venue[2] with free wifi - who I have been assured - will not 
cause any of us any problems. We aim to have finished by about 4pm.

To make sure everyone is at the station before we move on to the venue, 
it would help if you could sign up at our eventwax page here:

http://is.gd/1ITm

If you think a contact number might be helpful on the day, email me and 
I will sort one out :)

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| Contact |
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Please join our *low traffic* mailing list for updates:
   http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dfey-nw-discuss
or use the forum interface:
   http://dfey.freedomdreams.co.uk/wiki/Forum

We also are on IRC for questions and socialising at:
   #dfey on irc.freenode.net
There is also a web interface if you haven't mastered IRC yet:
   http://dfey.freedomdreams.co.uk/wiki/Chat

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| What  is  DFEY-NW |
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DFEY-NW is a group formed in response from a growing need in the 
Northwest of England for a Group to encourage and promote young people's 
involvement with the free software community by creating a social space 
to make it more comfortable for young people to get involved with GLUGs 
and FSUGs.

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[1] http://dfey.freedomdreams.co.uk
[2] http://is.gd/1IUS

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