Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardware failure?
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Seif Attar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: me again, it crashed, so it's not the graphics card, and the noapic didn't fix it, the last crash happened while I was installing stuff with synaptic, nothing in the logs. After the crash I pressed the reset button, and then it froze while the grub menu was showing, restarted, it froze after I selected an entry from the grub and the text Starting Up was showing and nothing happened, in the past I had to completely turn off the pc and unplug it from electricity in order to have it boot normally again (this weird freeze on reboot after crash doesn't always happen, could be that I only notice it when I am working on the machine when the crash occurs, maybe when it happens while I am away, whatever overheated has cooled down, or whatever capacitor had gone fubar had released it's electricity? cpu temp was 55c after the crash), so yesterday I removed the first RAM, tried to boot it, it froze again, then I removed the second ram and it booted normally, so I am now testing it with only 1 piece of ram, if it still crashes, I'll try the PSU, but my friend keeps forgetting to bring it! maybe tomorrow. Another thing I noticed yesterday, is that after I force the computer to shutdown (holding the power button), the num lock indicator on my keyboard is still on, even though the computer is shutdown. Checked the bios setting to make sure I haven't enabled key-press power on, and it's not enabled. Sorry for posting so much about this, I realise this is not Ubuntu related any more (probably and hopefully), but I have no where to go, and I imagine that if I take it to a hardware specialist that he will want an OS that he is more comfortable with. I'd definitely go with swapping out the PSU. Could very well be a power/power quality issue. :-) Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardware failure?
Seif Attar wrote: me again, it crashed, so it's not the graphics card, and the noapic didn't fix it, the last crash happened while I was installing stuff with synaptic, nothing in the logs. After the crash I pressed the reset button, and then it froze while the grub menu was showing, restarted, it froze after I selected an entry from the grub and the text Starting Up was showing and nothing happened, in the past I had to completely turn off the pc and unplug it from electricity in order to have it boot normally again (this weird freeze on reboot after crash doesn't always happen, could be that I only notice it when I am working on the machine when the crash occurs, maybe when it happens while I am away, whatever overheated has cooled down, or whatever capacitor had gone fubar had released it's electricity? cpu temp was 55c after the crash), so yesterday I removed the first RAM, tried to boot it, it froze again, then I removed the second ram and it booted normally, so I am now testing it with only 1 piece of ram, if it still crashes, I'll try the PSU, but my friend keeps forgetting to bring it! maybe tomorrow. Another thing I noticed yesterday, is that after I force the computer to shutdown (holding the power button), the num lock indicator on my keyboard is still on, even though the computer is shutdown. Checked the bios setting to make sure I haven't enabled key-press power on, and it's not enabled. Sorry for posting so much about this, I realise this is not Ubuntu related any more (probably and hopefully), but I have no where to go, and I imagine that if I take it to a hardware specialist that he will want an OS that he is more comfortable with. Peace, Seif A. I really do feel for you. It's one of those annoying problems especially when you don't have compatible hardware kicking around. I've had two Socket 754 motherboards die on me through power surges whereas the CPU survived. Usually it's been a case of buying a new motherboard and hoping that it works as no one I knew had a compatible board and CPU. Sods law one of the companies I do contract IT support for now has a stack of machines with Socket 754 boards and now I'm on a Socket 775 Pentium Dual Core and Socket AM2 Phenom (again, no compatible boards although touch wood things are working okay). Just a thought, have you tried getting in touch with the person/company you got the machine from? If you ask me, if you bought it new you should have a warranty on the machine even if it was built by a small system builder. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardware failure?
From your reply it seems the first RAM module or PSU may be faulty. Last year i had a similar problem with my system. I did memtests, cpuburndown tests etc. None of the logs gave any clue about what was going on . Then in one of the forums i found that somebody got around the problem by disabling Nvideo proprietary drivers. I did the same and it worked. I don't know whether your problem is the same, but after that fix my computer never froze or crashed (touch wood). Regards, Renjith 2008/10/1 Seif Attar [EMAIL PROTECTED] me again, it crashed, so it's not the graphics card, and the noapic didn't fix it, the last crash happened while I was installing stuff with synaptic, nothing in the logs. After the crash I pressed the reset button, and then it froze while the grub menu was showing, restarted, it froze after I selected an entry from the grub and the text Starting Up was showing and nothing happened, in the past I had to completely turn off the pc and unplug it from electricity in order to have it boot normally again (this weird freeze on reboot after crash doesn't always happen, could be that I only notice it when I am working on the machine when the crash occurs, maybe when it happens while I am away, whatever overheated has cooled down, or whatever capacitor had gone fubar had released it's electricity? cpu temp was 55c after the crash), so yesterday I removed the first RAM, tried to boot it, it froze again, then I removed the second ram and it booted normally, so I am now testing it with only 1 piece of ram, if it still crashes, I'll try the PSU, but my friend keeps forgetting to bring it! maybe tomorrow. Another thing I noticed yesterday, is that after I force the computer to shutdown (holding the power button), the num lock indicator on my keyboard is still on, even though the computer is shutdown. Checked the bios setting to make sure I haven't enabled key-press power on, and it's not enabled. Sorry for posting so much about this, I realise this is not Ubuntu related any more (probably and hopefully), but I have no where to go, and I imagine that if I take it to a hardware specialist that he will want an OS that he is more comfortable with. Peace, Seif A. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Mythbuntu crashes with Nvidia driver
I am trying to build a Myth-Tv setup, I have a new board cpu and a second-hand Nvidia 5200 with dvi output. Installing with the standard vesa driver works fine, but when I install the restricted mode driver and reboot it crashes/hangs on x startup. Any ideas where I should start looking for issues and preferably solutions.. Ken -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mythbuntu crashes with Nvidia driver
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Ken Robson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to build a Myth-Tv setup, I have a new board cpu and a second-hand Nvidia 5200 with dvi output. Installing with the standard vesa driver works fine, but when I install the restricted mode driver and reboot it crashes/hangs on x startup. The restricted nvidia driver crashes, X crashes or the kernel oopses? -- Steve When one person suffers from a delusion it is insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion. 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mythbuntu crashes with Nvidia driver
Ken Not that i've ever tried it, but you may try having a look at Envy. Its supposed to help install/configure NVidia and (i think) ATI cards. sudo apt-get install envyng-gtk http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html Cheers, Michael On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 15:14 +0100, Ken Robson wrote: I am trying to build a Myth-Tv setup, I have a new board cpu and a second-hand Nvidia 5200 with dvi output. Installing with the standard vesa driver works fine, but when I install the restricted mode driver and reboot it crashes/hangs on x startup. Any ideas where I should start looking for issues and preferably solutions.. Ken -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mythbuntu crashes with Nvidia driver
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 15:42 +0100, Michael Holloway wrote: Ken Not that i've ever tried it, but you may try having a look at Envy. Its supposed to help install/configure NVidia and (i think) ATI cards. sudo apt-get install envyng-gtk http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html Cheers, Michael On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 15:14 +0100, Ken Robson wrote: I am trying to build a Myth-Tv setup, I have a new board cpu and a second-hand Nvidia 5200 with dvi output. Installing with the standard vesa driver works fine, but when I install the restricted mode driver and reboot it crashes/hangs on x startup. Any ideas where I should start looking for issues and preferably solutions.. Ken What version of mythbuntu? -- Seek That Thy Might Know www.davmor2.co.uk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardware failure?
Hi Seif Before going down the new PSU route, do you have any power conditioners on the mains supply to your box? If not, that would certainly be the next purchase I'd recommend, followed by the PSU afterwards. To my inexperienced eyes, if a full power off and break with mains is required to reset things, it certainly does point towards the PSU, but it could still be spikes coming in over the mains and causing the PSU to wobble. In which case, even with a new PSU you'd still be liable to wobbles, but maybe not as dramatic as you get currently. Cheers Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob Beard Sent: 01 October 2008 11:53 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardware failure? Seif Attar wrote: me again, it crashed, so it's not the graphics card, and the noapic didn't fix it, the last crash happened while I was installing stuff with synaptic, nothing in the logs. After the crash I pressed the reset button, and then it froze while the grub menu was showing, restarted, it froze after I selected an entry from the grub and the text Starting Up was showing and nothing happened, in the past I had to completely turn off the pc and unplug it from electricity in order to have it boot normally again (this weird freeze on reboot after crash doesn't always happen, could be that I only notice it when I am working on the machine when the crash occurs, maybe when it happens while I am away, whatever overheated has cooled down, or whatever capacitor had gone fubar had released it's electricity? cpu temp was 55c after the crash), so yesterday I removed the first RAM, tried to boot it, it froze again, then I removed the second ram and it booted normally, so I am now testing it with only 1 piece of ram, if it still crashes, I'll try the PSU, but my friend keeps forgetting to bring it! maybe tomorrow. Another thing I noticed yesterday, is that after I force the computer to shutdown (holding the power button), the num lock indicator on my keyboard is still on, even though the computer is shutdown. Checked the bios setting to make sure I haven't enabled key-press power on, and it's not enabled. Sorry for posting so much about this, I realise this is not Ubuntu related any more (probably and hopefully), but I have no where to go, and I imagine that if I take it to a hardware specialist that he will want an OS that he is more comfortable with. Peace, Seif A. I really do feel for you. It's one of those annoying problems especially when you don't have compatible hardware kicking around. I've had two Socket 754 motherboards die on me through power surges whereas the CPU survived. Usually it's been a case of buying a new motherboard and hoping that it works as no one I knew had a compatible board and CPU. Sods law one of the companies I do contract IT support for now has a stack of machines with Socket 754 boards and now I'm on a Socket 775 Pentium Dual Core and Socket AM2 Phenom (again, no compatible boards although touch wood things are working okay). Just a thought, have you tried getting in touch with the person/company you got the machine from? If you ask me, if you bought it new you should have a warranty on the machine even if it was built by a small system builder. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Viglen MPC-L Podcast Offer
Folks Thought I'd miss the end of the above offer, which was due to expire yesterday. However, phoned up today and ordered my discounted MPC-L to be told as well that the offer has been extended. Good work U-UK podcasters for negoiating this offer! So, if you've diddled and daddled over whether or not to go for one, two or more, you still can. Hangs head Unfortunately, I was so chuffed at getting my order through I forgot to ask how long the offre has been extended by - sorry! Cheers Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
