Re: [ubuntu-uk] more issues with 8.10

2008-11-04 Thread Pete Stean
having exactly the same problem here - requires fast fingers! either using
the physical button on the drive or "ejecting" on the icon has the same
effect - disk comes out and shoots straight back in again - comedy dvd
drives!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] more issues with 8.10

2008-11-04 Thread Michael G Fletcher
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Ken Robson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In reply to multiple posts...
>
> 1. I use the dvd drive allot, I view/burn many dvd's and if it is going
> to re-insert it on eject then not on.
> 2. I still have another 2 machines running with 8.04 (xbuntu) and 8.10
> (with some issues) but this is my main pc and the issues I have had
> since upgrading on Thursday/Friday mean that I need a more stable OS. So
> far today I have tried (via live cd's) another 7 distro's and at the
> moment I have installed a x86 version of Mint (another 'buntu off shoot)
> , one of the main reasons for dropping x64 version was when ever I
> wanted to install something not in the repo's I HAD to compile it and
> usually there were issues, at least with the x86 version I have a chance
> to find a .deb file, or the compilation will succeed. (I have no
> problems with compiling the s/w but when there is cast issues I don't
> have the patience to fix them anymore. When I started coding 30 years
> ago this wasn't a problem ;-) but I haven't really done any programming
> in the past 8 years.)
> As a developer I believe that the beta testing is for getting rid of
> issues like this, One of the reasons I left M$ OS's behind was the
> issues in Vi$ta, after spending 10 years supporting M$ os's I had enough
> when I would switch on the pc and not have any networking... I then
> switched to Ubuntu and have mostly been pleased with it since then.
> 3. the screen saver issue, I don't know what is causing it, I have
> disabled the SS and so far it is behaving, the video card on that pc is
> the intel 915 onboard (so far my only pc running 8.10)
>
> I may come back in a month or so and see if the issues have been fixed.
> As to reading the release notes, who these days RTFM's?
>
> K
>
>

Ken, I'm sorry if this sounds rude (it really isn't), but do you have
the same problem if you push the physical eject button on the ROM??

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] listening to BBC

2008-11-04 Thread Ben Sutton
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:32 PM, norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have 8.10 installed on the Inspiron 1525 laptop and live BBC sound was
> immediately available.


I have to say 8.10 has offered the best experience I've had with this issue
on any OS.  Upon trying to play a BBC live stream I was prompted that the
correct codec was not installed - after a button click and a minute wait the
stream started playing.

Good work!

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] listening to BBC

2008-11-04 Thread norman
< snip >

> That's not really necessary. The exact same thing I did on 8.10 will
> work on 8.04.

I have 8.10 installed on the Inspiron 1525 laptop and live BBC sound was
immediately available. The only problem was that the sound was horribly
distorted. This was remedied by ensuring that mozilla-mplayer, mplayer
and mplayer skins were installed.

Norman


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] synaptic

2008-11-04 Thread norman

> If you start synaptic, and navigate to the File menu, there is an option
> entitled History, which I imagine might tell you.

Brilliant. Thank you.

Norman


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] synaptic

2008-11-04 Thread Samuel Toogood
norman wrote:
> The other day I installed a piece of very effective software using
> synaptic. But, stupid me, I forgot to note down what I had done. Is
> there any way I can check to find the name of the installation, please?
> 
> Norman
> 
> 
If you start synaptic, and navigate to the File menu, there is an option
entitled History, which I imagine might tell you.

HTH,

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[ubuntu-uk] synaptic

2008-11-04 Thread norman
The other day I installed a piece of very effective software using
synaptic. But, stupid me, I forgot to note down what I had done. Is
there any way I can check to find the name of the installation, please?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] listening to BBC

2008-11-04 Thread Philip Stubbs
2008/11/4 norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> < snip >
>>
>> I note though that my new ibex machine already has them all which i
>> suspect is a by product of installing the ubuntu-restricted-extras
>> package.
>
> I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that I will advise my brother to
> forget his fears and to upgrade to 8.10 when all his troubles should be
> over. Thanks again.

When I upgraded, I lost sound. Admittedly, it was a little before the
final release of 8.10. I needed to add my users to the pulse audio
groups.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] listening to BBC

2008-11-04 Thread Alan Pope
2008/11/4 norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> < snip >
>>
>> I note though that my new ibex machine already has them all which i
>> suspect is a by product of installing the ubuntu-restricted-extras
>> package.
>
> I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that I will advise my brother to
> forget his fears and to upgrade to 8.10 when all his troubles should be
> over. Thanks again.
>

That's not really necessary. The exact same thing I did on 8.10 will
work on 8.04.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] listening to BBC

2008-11-04 Thread norman
< snip >
> 
> I note though that my new ibex machine already has them all which i
> suspect is a by product of installing the ubuntu-restricted-extras
> package.

I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that I will advise my brother to
forget his fears and to upgrade to 8.10 when all his troubles should be
over. Thanks again.

Norman



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] listening to BBC

2008-11-04 Thread Alan Pope
2008/11/4 norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras w32codecs
>>
>> That's all, and it works for me.
>
> I have checked and I believe I have everything installed that I might
> need including w32codecs. The pop up window appears and at the bottom
> left says that it is transferring information and then, nothing.
> Clearly, something is missing but I cannot see what it is.
>

Quite likely. You could try installing gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad,
gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse,  gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly,
gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse instead of w32codecs and see if
that does it. I never know which one of those has the "right" codecs
so just install them all.

I note though that my new ibex machine already has them all which i
suspect is a by product of installing the ubuntu-restricted-extras
package.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] listening to BBC

2008-11-04 Thread norman
< snip >

Firstly, thanks to all who have taken the trouble to try to help me play
live radio from the BBC website.
> 
> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras w32codecs
> 
> That's all, and it works for me.

I have checked and I believe I have everything installed that I might
need including w32codecs. The pop up window appears and at the bottom
left says that it is transferring information and then, nothing.
Clearly, something is missing but I cannot see what it is.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu 8.10

2008-11-04 Thread Rob Beard
John wrote:
> Its a via, I know via have an upgrade to their cards, but I couldnt get 
> it to work, so wasnt able to upgrade. :(


Sounds like what I experienced.  I found that using the 'Safe' Video 
Mode (vesa driver) worked okay albeit slow.

I found this on the Ubuntu forums, not sure if it'll help at all.  It 
seems to suggest that Compiz is causing some issues?

http://wiki.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=967178

I haven't personally tried it as I've been too tied up and I don't have 
any VIA chipset machines at home.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] listening to BBC

2008-11-04 Thread Alan Pope
2008/11/4 Michael G Fletcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> ah yes, i see what you mean...  mine works (looks like it's through
> totem plugin), and i think the only things i did was install the
> gstreamer-plugins, good bad and ugly.
>

I just tested this on a fairly fresh install of Ubuntu 8.10 32-bit
(however the same thing worked on 8.04).

http://bbc.co.uk/radio4 -> click "Listen Now" in the top right.
I get a popup window containing a flash element and a streaming media
element. The flash element works with the non-free flash browser
plugin and the streaming audio works with totem.

Totem tells me it's a "WMA Version 8" audio stream at 32K mono.

This is a relatively clean install of 8.10. The only things I've done
is as follows:-

1. Follow the instructions at the medibuntu site. (medibuntu.org)
(Note this needs changing for hardy)

sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/intrepid.list
--output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo
apt-get update

2. Install a load of stuff...

sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras w32codecs

That's all, and it works for me.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] listening to BBC

2008-11-04 Thread Michael G Fletcher
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Matt Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Michael G Fletcher
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 8:52 PM, norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > After months of trying I have finally got my little brother, who is in
>> > his seventies, to join the 21st century and he has installed Ubuntu 8.04
>> > (no newfangled stuff like 8.10 for him) along with his XP. Now, big
>> > brother is inundated with questions most of which, fortunately, I can
>> > answer. However, now I am stumped, he wants to listen to BBC radio on
>> > the BBC website, something I do not do. I have tried Google but am
>> > mightily confused so could some kind person suggest somethings he might
>> > try, please.
>> >
>> > Norman
>> >
>> >
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>> as far as i understand it, all you need to listen and watch items on
>> the BBC website is the non-free flash player.
>>
>> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
>>
>> HTH
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> That works for the video, not for the radio. You need to install realplayer
> or possibly the Helix player.
>
> Mj
>
ah yes, i see what you mean...  mine works (looks like it's through
totem plugin), and i think the only things i did was install the
gstreamer-plugins, good bad and ugly.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] listening to BBC

2008-11-04 Thread Matt Jones
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Michael G Fletcher <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 8:52 PM, norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > After months of trying I have finally got my little brother, who is in
> > his seventies, to join the 21st century and he has installed Ubuntu 8.04
> > (no newfangled stuff like 8.10 for him) along with his XP. Now, big
> > brother is inundated with questions most of which, fortunately, I can
> > answer. However, now I am stumped, he wants to listen to BBC radio on
> > the BBC website, something I do not do. I have tried Google but am
> > mightily confused so could some kind person suggest somethings he might
> > try, please.
> >
> > Norman
> >
> >
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> as far as i understand it, all you need to listen and watch items on
> the BBC website is the non-free flash player.
>
> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
>
> HTH
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That works for the video, not for the radio. You need to install realplayer
or possibly the Helix player.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] listening to BBC

2008-11-04 Thread Michael G Fletcher
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 8:52 PM, norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> After months of trying I have finally got my little brother, who is in
> his seventies, to join the 21st century and he has installed Ubuntu 8.04
> (no newfangled stuff like 8.10 for him) along with his XP. Now, big
> brother is inundated with questions most of which, fortunately, I can
> answer. However, now I am stumped, he wants to listen to BBC radio on
> the BBC website, something I do not do. I have tried Google but am
> mightily confused so could some kind person suggest somethings he might
> try, please.
>
> Norman
>
>
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as far as i understand it, all you need to listen and watch items on
the BBC website is the non-free flash player.

sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] listening to BBC

2008-11-04 Thread mac
norman wrote:

> Before passing information on to my brother I decided to test on my
> computer first running Ubuntu 8.04. Installing Flash did not help. When
> I select a radio broadcast a window opens which looks very encouraging
> but no sound. However, there is sound when I select an interview.



Norman >>> I now routinely set up my multimedia as per the HowTo at

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683

Currently using 8.04, no problems with BBC at all.

Mac



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu 8.10

2008-11-04 Thread John




Its a via, I know via have an upgrade to their cards, but I couldnt get
it to work, so wasnt able to upgrade. :(

John

Rob Beard wrote:

  John wrote:
  
  
Hi, sorry to take so long to answer, been a bit busy.

Its not the first time I have installed Ubuntu. I have installed 8.04 on 
a Windows XP machine, for dual boot. It isnt a recognised company 
hardware, its made by a company called Hi-Grade. As far as doing a 
Ctrl+Alt+1 I cant do that because it freezes, the minute the desktop 
tries to show and I have to hit the start button to restart the laptop.

I have the two you mentioned, plus
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-tweak/+question/45800
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-tweak/+question/45858
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+question/47012

from what I can see, none of which had any answers or questions asked. 
If I'm wrong I apologise.

I cant do anything with any of the questions anymore, because I cant use 
Ubuntu on my laptop now, as its not working since the upgrade.

Hope that helps.

John.

  
  
What video card does the machine have in it?

I had a problem with Intrepid Beta with VIA chipsets where X would freeze.

I believe there is a workaround, can't for the life of me remember what 
it is at the moment though.

Rob


  





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Re: [ubuntu-uk] listening to BBC

2008-11-04 Thread norman
< snip >

> > I have just listened to Radio 2 successfully online with FireFox 3 on Ubuntu
> > 8.10. (It also worked on 8.04).
> > I enjoy listening to Malcolm Laycocks show on a Sunday night.
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00f941q
> > I like the old time music, but I guess to you and your brother it's just
> > 'music' :-) hehehehe
> > 
> > All I can think of that you need to listen to it is Flash, which you can get
> > here http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
> 
> That might well work, however, if it does not do the trick, keep us 
> informed?
> I listen to the bbc regularly so I can look up my various notes if 
> necessary.
> 
> It is possible that w32 codecs are in the story and I note I use 
> mplayer I think as a plugin for mozilla firefox too because bbc audio 
> uses realmedia (as in RealPlayer) streams.

Before passing information on to my brother I decided to test on my
computer first running Ubuntu 8.04. Installing Flash did not help. When
I select a radio broadcast a window opens which looks very encouraging
but no sound. However, there is sound when I select an interview.

Norman


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu 8.10

2008-11-04 Thread Neil Greenwood
2008/11/3 John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> [snip]
>  Its an upgrade. How can I go back to
> 8.04, is it easy?
>

Hi John,

You can downgrade the packages to return to 8.04, but it's much easier
(and more reliable - what if you miss a package?) to re-install.

Hope that helps.

Cofion/Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu 8.10

2008-11-04 Thread Rob Beard
John wrote:
> Hi, sorry to take so long to answer, been a bit busy.
> 
> Its not the first time I have installed Ubuntu. I have installed 8.04 on 
> a Windows XP machine, for dual boot. It isnt a recognised company 
> hardware, its made by a company called Hi-Grade. As far as doing a 
> Ctrl+Alt+1 I cant do that because it freezes, the minute the desktop 
> tries to show and I have to hit the start button to restart the laptop.
> 
> I have the two you mentioned, plus
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-tweak/+question/45800
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-tweak/+question/45858
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+question/47012
> 
> from what I can see, none of which had any answers or questions asked. 
> If I'm wrong I apologise.
> 
> I cant do anything with any of the questions anymore, because I cant use 
> Ubuntu on my laptop now, as its not working since the upgrade.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> John.

What video card does the machine have in it?

I had a problem with Intrepid Beta with VIA chipsets where X would freeze.

I believe there is a workaround, can't for the life of me remember what 
it is at the moment though.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] listening to BBC

2008-11-04 Thread peter
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 21:09 +, Colin McCarthy wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 8:52 PM, norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> After months of trying I have finally got my little brother,
> who is in
> his seventies, to join the 21st century and he has installed
> Ubuntu 8.04
> (no newfangled stuff like 8.10 for him) along with his XP.
> Now, big
> brother is inundated with questions most of which,
> fortunately, I can
> answer. However, now I am stumped, he wants to listen to BBC
> radio on
> the BBC website, something I do not do. I have tried Google
> but am
> mightily confused so could some kind person suggest somethings
> he might
> try, please.
> 
> Norman
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Norman.
> I have just listened to Radio 2 successfully online with FireFox 3 on
> Ubuntu 8.10. (It also worked on 8.04).
> I enjoy listening to Malcolm Laycocks show on a Sunday night.
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00f941q
> I like the old time music, but I guess to you and your brother it's
> just 'music' :-) hehehehe
> 
> All I can think of that you need to listen to it is Flash, which you
> can get here http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> Colin
And of course don't forget that some BBC radio content is also available
directly in the totem media player in the new 8.10 Applications -> sound
and video -> movie player. select playlist and pick BBC from the drop
down list, this populates and away you go.
> 

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