Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC Iplayer download on Linux
I have had no real problems with using the 64-bit version of Ubuntu. I too have 4 GB of RAM. I also run virtual systems in Virtual Box and VMware. If I want to run a 32-bit program that does not run in 64-bit Ubuntu, I can run it in a 32-bit virtual Ubuntu. Although some will run on 64-bit quite happily whilst for others special steps need to be taken to get them working, as with Adobe Air. Overall I am very happy with 64-bit Ubuntu. Java works too, so you would still be able to use that. I do not see why more people do not use 64-bit operating systems. The CPUs on all new PCs are now 64-bit, so why not have 64-bit OS? Especially as in Linux there are often 64-bit versions of software or otherwise there are workarounds. I think that in the Windows world there just is not much software for 64-bit Windows so people stick to 32-bit. This is where Linux triumphs over Windows. David King Rob Beard wrote: David King wrote: I found this as well http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=941093 for installing Adobe AIR on 64bit Ubuntu David King Great thanks. I'm going to be installing Ubuntu on my new laptop later on. Not sure if I should install the i386 or AMD64 version. I run the AMD64 version on my desktop due to having 4GB of ram, the laptop has 2GB at the moment although I am considering upgrading to 4GB on that too (it also runs *cough* Vista *cough*). What I do need on my laptop though is Java support (for Logmein). Not sure if I should just stick to the 32-bit version and just live with only about 3.25GB when in the 32-bit OS. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] 64-bit or 32-bit, Was BBC Iplayer download on Linux
2008/12/21 David King linux...@avoura.com: I do not see why more people do not use 64-bit operating systems. The CPUs on all new PCs are now 64-bit, so why not have 64-bit OS? Because (on my laptop) there's zero benefit to running 64-bit version of the OS and there are some gotchas with a few things either not working or requiring enough faff to get working that it's annoying/frustrating/timeconsuming to do it. I ran 64-bit Ubuntu for 6 months and now have reverted back to 32-bit. My laptop has 4GB of RAM but there's a flaw in that it will only show 3.3GB to the OS, whether it's 64-bit or 32-bit. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 64-bit or 32-bit, Was BBC Iplayer download on Linux
In message of 21 Dec, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: 2008/12/21 David King linux...@avoura.com: I do not see why more people do not use 64-bit operating systems. The CPUs on all new PCs are now 64-bit, so why not have 64-bit OS? Because (on my laptop) there's zero benefit to running 64-bit version of the OS and there are some gotchas with a few things either not working or requiring enough faff to get working that it's annoying/frustrating/timeconsuming to do it. Without measuring anything, 64-bit Ubuntu definitely feels a little faster than 32-bit. But I agree with the other criticisms of the present state of some of the offered applications. I ran 64-bit Ubuntu for 6 months and now have reverted back to 32-bit. Fortunately I can keep both available under VMware Fusion on a mac pro. My laptop has 4GB of RAM but there's a flaw in that it will only show 3.3GB to the OS, whether it's 64-bit or 32-bit. No such problem here. -- Tim powys-lybbe ...@powys.org For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 64-bit or 32-bit, Was BBC Iplayer download on Linux
Alan Pope wrote: 2008/12/21 David King linux...@avoura.com: I do not see why more people do not use 64-bit operating systems. The CPUs on all new PCs are now 64-bit, so why not have 64-bit OS? Because (on my laptop) there's zero benefit to running 64-bit version of the OS and there are some gotchas with a few things either not working or requiring enough faff to get working that it's annoying/frustrating/timeconsuming to do it. I ran 64-bit Ubuntu for 6 months and now have reverted back to 32-bit. My laptop has 4GB of RAM but there's a flaw in that it will only show 3.3GB to the OS, whether it's 64-bit or 32-bit. Cheers, Al. Hmmm, I guess 700MB less memory isn't going to make that much difference considering what I'll be running anyway. On the desktop I don't mind putting up with the quirks but I think on a laptop since I'll be providing remote support at the most annoying of times (usually either early in the morning i.e. 5am or late at night) then I think I'll go for the 32-bit version for now. I presume like everything once the bugs are ironed out then thinks like 64-bit Flash and Java will make their way into the next release (or the release after that). I did quickly fire up an AMD64 Live CD and I was so impressed that everything just worked. Can't say that for Vista, spent best part of 3 hours last night downloading and installing drivers (the Intel driver ACER provided was about 180MB!!!). All that hassle just to remove the crudware that was slowing it down. Curse you Microsoft with your restricted downgrade to XP rights. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] creating a USB startup disk
David King wrote: I have now found a Live USB creator at http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Installer-Setup/Ubuntu-LiveUSB-39755.shtml I have created my live USB Ubuntu flash drive, now to reboot and see if it works or not. David King Didn't work here...How did yours go ? Regards Ted Wager Using Ubuntu Linux -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 64-bit or 32-bit, Was BBC Iplayer download on Linux
2008/12/21 Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@southfarm.plus.com: In message of 21 Dec, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: 2008/12/21 David King linux...@avoura.com: I do not see why more people do not use 64-bit operating systems. The CPUs on all new PCs are now 64-bit, so why not have 64-bit OS? Because (on my laptop) there's zero benefit to running 64-bit version of the OS and there are some gotchas with a few things either not working or requiring enough faff to get working that it's annoying/frustrating/timeconsuming to do it. Without measuring anything, 64-bit Ubuntu definitely feels a little faster than 32-bit. But I agree with the other criticisms of the present state of some of the offered applications. You need to measure. I once owned a nice VW Scirocco, that I loved. I was sure it 'felt' faster after I washed it. -- Philip Stubbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 64-bit or 32-bit, Was BBC Iplayer download on Linux
In message of 21 Dec, Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk wrote: 2008/12/21 Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@southfarm.plus.com: In message of 21 Dec, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: 2008/12/21 David King linux...@avoura.com: I do not see why more people do not use 64-bit operating systems. The CPUs on all new PCs are now 64-bit, so why not have 64-bit OS? Because (on my laptop) there's zero benefit to running 64-bit version of the OS and there are some gotchas with a few things either not working or requiring enough faff to get working that it's annoying/frustrating/timeconsuming to do it. Without measuring anything, 64-bit Ubuntu definitely feels a little faster than 32-bit. But I agree with the other criticisms of the present state of some of the offered applications. You need to measure. Can you recommend a speedometer? -- Tim powys-lybbe ...@powys.org For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Toshiba NB100 Notebook
Hi EVERY ONE I just bought a Toshiba NB100 Notebook,which comes with UBUNTU pre installed. I am SO GLAD I could finally buy a notebook/computer with Ubuntu pre installed. I have just gone fully over to Ubuntu (still lots to learn). Robert G -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] The I'm Linux Video Contest
If you've been alive and aware of mass media over the last twelve months, you've probably seen television commercials from Apple and Microsoft touting their operating system. From Apple's ubiquitous I'm a Mac to Jerry Seinfeld to Microsoft's I'm a PC retort, operating system commercials have been flooding the airways. Except one OS has been notably absent – Linux.** *While the Linux Foundation would love to spend millions promoting Linux on TV, it's simply not our style (or in our budget). Even more importantly, Linux isn't a top-down, commercially controlled operating system. It's a grassroots product of mass collaboration. That's why we're sponsoring a community contest to create a Linux video that showcases just what Linux means to those who use it, and hopefully inspires many to try it.* *The winner will receive a free trip to Tokyo, Japan to participate in the Linux Foundation Japan Linux Symposium in October 2009. The winning video will also be unveiled at the Linux Foundation's Collaboration Summit in San Francisco on April 8, 2009.* In short, the Linux foundation have started a contest for a video advert/commercial. The video has to represent GNU/Linux in some way and can even be specific to Ubuntu, Debian, OpenSUSE, Fedora etc. The terms are that you must be 18 and represent Linux in some way. They must also be 60 seconds or less. More info here: http://video.linuxfoundation.org/category/video-category/-linux-foundation-video-contest Have fun and I hope that Ubuntu-UK can participate guys, Regards, Christopher Swift chris.r.sw...@gmail.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Toshiba NB100 Notebook
Robert Gardner wrote: Hi EVERY ONE I just bought a Toshiba NB100 Notebook,which comes with UBUNTU pre installed. I am SO GLAD I could finally buy a notebook/computer with Ubuntu pre installed. I have just gone fully over to Ubuntu (still lots to learn). Robert G Great! I noticed one of those the other day in Comet, bit pricey for my liking but still a nice little unit. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 64-bit or 32-bit, Was BBC Iplayer download on Linux
2008/12/21 Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@southfarm.plus.com: Can you recommend a speedometer? Geekbench? http://www.primatelabs.ca/geekbench/ 32-bit version is free, unfortunately the 64-bit version is payware. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Toshiba NB100 Notebook
Robert Gardner wrote: Hi EVERY ONE I just bought a Toshiba NB100 Notebook,which comes with UBUNTU pre installed. I am SO GLAD I could finally buy a notebook/computer with Ubuntu pre installed. I have just gone fully over to Ubuntu (still lots to learn). Robert G I am still looking at a new note book / laptop or whatever but it needs to run Linux, so still looking at myoptions until i can afford one Paul -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The I'm Linux Video Contest
In message of 21 Dec, Christopher Swift chris.r.sw...@googlemail.com wrote: snip In short, the Linux foundation have started a contest for a video advert/commercial. The video has to represent GNU/Linux in some way and can even be specific to Ubuntu, Debian, OpenSUSE, Fedora etc. The terms are that you must be 18 and represent Linux in some way. They must also be 60 seconds or less. More info here: http://video.linuxfoundation.org/category/video-category/-linux-foundation-video-contest Admitted that there is no money for advertising within the Linux world. So what is going to be done with this video? It can't be put on the TV channels as that costs big bucks. Or have some channels indicated thay will give free air-time? Or will it just end up on U-tube? And who will own the winning item? -- Tim powys-lybbe ...@powys.org For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The I'm Linux Video Contest
*We're formally launching this contest in late January, but you can get started on your entries today. Please upload them here.http://video.linuxfoundation.org/node/add/videoEmail amanda (at) linuxfoundation if you have questions. * I guess that is when there will be a more formal plan, but you can get started with your ideas now if you feel like contributing. I'm looking forward to it personally even if I ain't a media guru! On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 6:50 PM, Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@southfarm.plus.comwrote: In message of 21 Dec, Christopher Swift chris.r.sw...@googlemail.com wrote: snip In short, the Linux foundation have started a contest for a video advert/commercial. The video has to represent GNU/Linux in some way and can even be specific to Ubuntu, Debian, OpenSUSE, Fedora etc. The terms are that you must be 18 and represent Linux in some way. They must also be 60 seconds or less. More info here: http://video.linuxfoundation.org/category/video-category/-linux-foundation-video-contest Admitted that there is no money for advertising within the Linux world. So what is going to be done with this video? It can't be put on the TV channels as that costs big bucks. Or have some channels indicated thay will give free air-time? Or will it just end up on U-tube? And who will own the winning item? -- Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The I'm Linux Video Contest
Christopher Swift wrote: If you've been alive and aware of mass media over the last twelve months, you've probably seen television commercials from Apple and Microsoft touting their operating system. From Apple's ubiquitous I'm a Mac to Jerry Seinfeld to Microsoft's I'm a PC retort, operating system commercials have been flooding the airways. Except one OS has been notably absent – Linux. /While the Linux Foundation would love to spend millions promoting Linux on TV, it's simply not our style (or in our budget). Even more importantly, Linux isn't a top-down, commercially controlled operating system. It's a grassroots product of mass collaboration. That's why we're sponsoring a community contest to create a Linux video that showcases just what Linux means to those who use it, and hopefully inspires many to try it./ /The winner will receive a free trip to Tokyo, Japan to participate in the Linux Foundation Japan Linux Symposium in October 2009. The winning video will also be unveiled at the Linux Foundation's Collaboration Summit in San Francisco on April 8, 2009./ In short, the Linux foundation have started a contest for a video advert/commercial. The video has to represent GNU/Linux in some way and can even be specific to Ubuntu, Debian, OpenSUSE, Fedora etc. The terms are that you must be 18 and represent Linux in some way. They must also be 60 seconds or less. More info here: http://video.linuxfoundation.org/category/video-category/-linux-foundation-video-contest Have fun and I hope that Ubuntu-UK can participate guys, Regards, Christopher Swift chris.r.sw...@gmail.com I see the Windows line is Life without walls, which kinda is ironic given the restrictions that come with it, i would suggest life with freedom, in the middle, then list them around that line on the screen. Re distribution if you can get it in to a format, that can be EASILY incorporated in to a webpage, (i have just html at the moment, but can embed you tube stuff. I am more than happy to have it on my website, Perhaps see if canoical can include it in /desktop/examples. the end product should be creative commons or similar surely, otherwise it looks kind of odd, on the free software community to put restrictions on it. With movies like big buck bunny being put on to dvd', again perhaps it can be tagged on to the end of future movies or included on the dvd at least. Paul -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: Announcing the next Global Bug Jam
On 19 Dec 2008, at 10:56, Ciaran Mooney wrote: It can't hurt to try! Any ideas, there was a long discussion about the last one. I'll try and pull out the useful suggestions and comments. Ciarán Well we have a fair amount of time to sort this out. Does anyone have any contacts at Canonical to see if we could use their space for the weekend? I'd imagine having some employees along would help. Perfect opportunity for our LoCo to do something awesome \o/ Iain -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: Announcing the next Global Bug Jam
2008/12/21 Iain Lane la...@ubuntu.com: Well we have a fair amount of time to sort this out. Does anyone have any contacts at Canonical to see if we could use their space for the weekend? I'd imagine having some employees along would help. Perfect opportunity for our LoCo to do something awesome \o/ I asked Canonical last time there was a bug jam. Having access to the UK Canonical HQ was problematic for a few reasons including security. However there was left open the possibility of us hiring another location. We could of course ask again if this would be possible. Alternatively I was prepared to open my house up for the bug jam in my area, however personal circumstances meant that it wasn't possible last time around. For this bug jam barring other better suggestions, I'm sure we could do that this time around too. I'd be happy to provide some wifi food and drink for the weekend if no other location can be found. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] creating a USB startup disk
I have created my live USB Ubuntu flash drive, which is certainly now bootable, so nothing wrong with the drive itself. But, it had an error when booting about not finding the linux kernel. I will have to investigate further when I have the time, but at least I know that the flash drive is bootable. But I do not see why the Ubuntu program to create a USB startup disk did not work in making the flash drive bootable, whereas the Install Live USB program which I used did make it bootable. I also noticed that this latter program divides the flash drive into two partitions, which makes more sense than the Ubuntu startup program, so that there is a main bootable partition and a second partition for the home directory and files which is persistent. David King Ted wrote: David King wrote: I have now found a Live USB creator at http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Installer-Setup/Ubuntu-LiveUSB-39755.shtml I have created my live USB Ubuntu flash drive, now to reboot and see if it works or not. David King Didn't work here...How did yours go ? Regards Ted Wager Using Ubuntu Linux -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The I'm Linux Video Contest
Considering that anyone can make a video and put it on You Tube (unless it was illegal or something that You Tube had to remove as it was against their policy), then I think it would be a great idea if everyone tried to make a video (if they can) and post it to You Tube to promote Linux in general or just Ubuntu, and then post the link to your video here on the Ubuntu UK list and elsewhere. I think that kind of video making to promote Linux will go further than just picking one winner in a competition. Besides, I have no desire to visit Japan. David King Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: In message of 21 Dec, Christopher Swift chris.r.sw...@googlemail.com wrote: snip In short, the Linux foundation have started a contest for a video advert/commercial. The video has to represent GNU/Linux in some way and can even be specific to Ubuntu, Debian, OpenSUSE, Fedora etc. The terms are that you must be 18 and represent Linux in some way. They must also be 60 seconds or less. More info here: http://video.linuxfoundation.org/category/video-category/-linux-foundation-video-contest Admitted that there is no money for advertising within the Linux world. So what is going to be done with this video? It can't be put on the TV channels as that costs big bucks. Or have some channels indicated thay will give free air-time? Or will it just end up on U-tube? And who will own the winning item? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] creating a USB startup disk
2008/12/22 David King linux...@avoura.com: But I do not see why the Ubuntu program to create a USB startup disk did not work in making the flash drive bootable, whereas the Install Live USB program which I used did make it bootable. I also noticed that this latter program divides the flash drive into two partitions, which makes more sense than the Ubuntu startup program, so that there is a main bootable partition and a second partition for the home directory and files which is persistent. I remember I had to install Gparted, erase partitioning table, create a new one. After that the Ubuntu program was working fine. BTW it gives you option to make a second partition to store local settings. Did try it though. With best regards, Dmitrijs Ledkovs. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
