[ubuntu-uk] adding extra hard drive to a Ubuntu machine.
Morning All, I have an ubuntu machine that I am running Boxee on, and I also have a 250GB IDE drive in a network caddy. The caddy is unreliable, so am considering moving the disk into the PC (it just has media on it). If I were to plug the drive into the PC and switch on, would it automount, or would it need adding to /etc/fstab manually? Thanks, Steve Garton sheepeatingtaz.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 46, Issue 76
the free space. -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat, Yahoo Skype: liamproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com ? ICQ: 73187508 -- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:08:31 + From: Robert Flatters robert.flatt...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] HELP: How to install the Ubuntu in one of the existing partition in a hard disk? To: British Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: 9c1ee30c0902252208g53f2956bv70d617f6d42f8...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I thought Ubuntu gave you an manual option to setup the hard drive partition, which allowed for two systems on two separate partition. I know ive done it. On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/26 rizzuwan wahid rizzu...@yahoo.com: I've a hard disk that consist of two partitions, that known as c and d, and I want to install a Ubuntu in one of the existing partition while not erasing the other partition. What I've counter is, when i want to install it, either it will erase all partition and then install it or it will create another partition. So how i want to install the Ubuntu in the existing partition either in c or d without erasing the other partition or create new partition? RIZZUWAN The easiest way is probably to do the first step in Windows. So, in Windows, move everything you want to keep off D onto C or something. Then run Disk Manager (assuming you're using XP) - Start | Run | diskmgmt.msc Select the D drive - and make very very sure that it *IS* the D drive, not the C drive - and delete it. Save the changes and reboot. Check that Windows still boots and runs off C. So long as it's OK, reboot with your Ubuntu CD and get it to use the free space. -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat, Yahoo Skype: liamproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com ? ICQ: 73187508 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Robert Flatters, AMBSC -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/attachments/20090226/9edc1829/attachment-0001.htm -- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:10:31 + From: Robert Flatters robert.flatt...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] A quick warning if you're trying out Windows 7 To: British Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: 9c1ee30c0902252210i5d03ad35l8ea2260d559...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 It good to know some of the quirk of window 7 before it released. Just in case i deside to get it or not. On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/25 Ian Betteridge i...@ianbetteridge.co.uk: Yep, but worth a reminder - I'd forgotten! :) Well done, Penfold. ;?) -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ? GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884 ? Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat, Yahoo Skype: liamproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com ? ICQ: 73187508 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Robert Flatters, AMBSC -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/attachments/20090226/b29bde2e/attachment-0001.htm -- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:14:02 + From: Robert Flatters robert.flatt...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK government backs open source To: British Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: 9c1ee30c0902252214w44f0939ay29cafefd01adf...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 There is another company that going down the same road as Microsoft and that Apple they have started doing the same thing. Being secretive and in some case anti-competitive. Maybe the EU commission might need to look into them. That would give the big A a wake call. On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Adam Bagnall bagna...@googlemail.comwrote: This article recently appeared on the BBC, thought it might interest some of you. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7910110.stm Adam. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Robert Flatters, AMBSC -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https
Re: [ubuntu-uk] adding extra hard drive to a Ubuntu machine.
2009/2/26 Stephen Garton sheepeating...@sheepeatingtaz.co.uk: I have an ubuntu machine that I am running Boxee on, and I also have a 250GB IDE drive in a network caddy. The caddy is unreliable, so am considering moving the disk into the PC (it just has media on it). If I were to plug the drive into the PC and switch on, would it automount, or would it need adding to /etc/fstab manually? Try it and see? I suspect it will not be mounted. You'll need to maintain fstab yourself. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions might help. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK government backs open source
And here's the response from the president of Socitm. No comments yet I notice, but this seems like a very MS point of view! http://socitmpresident.blogspot.com/ Open Standards are definitely required. I don’t like the term “Open Source”. It’s misleading; what many people mean is “anything but Microsoft”; few businesses actually use open source directly – they buy software derived from open source that has been commercially packaged and sold with support, which, in practice, is little different to licensed software. Nevertheless, competition is great for keeping suppliers focussed on delivering customer value, and “Open Source” has certainly played its part. All the same, software is only one part of the Total Cost of Ownership equation; don’t consider it in isolation, but as part of the full TCO and lifecycle costs. “Open Source” software development, in my experience, lags proprietary development by several years. I don’t think we could achieve the anytime, anywhere fixed and mobile infrastructure with tele-presence we require, now, for flexible and new ways of working using only Open Source. I agree with reuse, and it’s a very significant factor in the Microsoft Public Sector software licensing project I’m involved in (and not allowed to talk about). If it works for you – fine. I wouldn’t rule-out so-called “Open Source”; Newham has used it for some applications since the time it did its deal with Microsoft (probably the first UK public sector procurement of Microsoft as a supplier) and continues to do so. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK government backs open source
I may not know much about operating systems, but I know a smokescreen when I see one, and this guy Richard Steel's blog looks to me like just one big smokescreen for the status quo as defined by whoever happens to be in control of the bureaucracy at the time. The expression 'Open Standards' sounds conveniently vague to me, but maybe it has some precise meaning for some who consider it important. The 'Society of IT Management' sounds throughly status quo oriented to me, both from this person's blog and from its own website. I admit I have no fondness for local government, in the first place. Chris Rowson wrote: And here's the response from the president of Socitm. No comments yet I notice, but this seems like a very MS point of view! http://socitmpresident.blogspot.com/ # Open Standards are definitely required. # I don’t like the term “Open Source”. It’s misleading; what many people mean is “anything but Microsoft”; few businesses actually use open source directly – they buy software derived from open source that has been commercially packaged and sold with support, which, in practice, is little different to licensed software. # Nevertheless, competition is great for keeping suppliers focussed on delivering customer value, and “Open Source” has certainly played its part. # All the same, software is only one part of the Total Cost of Ownership equation; don’t consider it in isolation, but as part of the full TCO and lifecycle costs. # “Open Source” software development, in my experience, lags proprietary development by several years. I don’t think we could achieve the anytime, anywhere fixed and mobile infrastructure with tele-presence we require, now, for flexible and new ways of working using only Open Source. # I agree with reuse, and it’s a very significant factor in the Microsoft Public Sector software licensing project I’m involved in (and not allowed to talk about). # If it works for you – fine. I wouldn’t rule-out so-called “Open Source”; Newham has used it for some applications since the time it did its deal with Microsoft (probably the first UK public sector procurement of Microsoft as a supplier) and continues to do so. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu comic: Hackett and Bankwell
Ha ... I like, about 7/16 the way through, where she says is this even in color? John Levin wrote: Hackett and Bankwell is a series of cartoon manuals that teaches readers how to get started with Linux-based operating systems. The first issue is best for users who are interested in switching to Ubuntu, including those who have tried to make the jump to Linux in the past but got confused and went back to a commercial operating system. First issue downloadable for free. http://hackettandbankwell.com/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 3D OpenGL screensaver (or running Picassa screensaver on Gnome)
Hi there, under System/preferences/screensaver there is a screen saver called F-Spot Photos. Within F-Spot photo manager tag some photos as favorites... These will be shown in the screensaver Hope this helps :) irc: selinuxium 2009/2/25 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk On 25/02/2009 17:09, Mark Fraser wrote: On Wednesday 25 February 2009 16:58:24 Rob Beard wrote: Hi folks, A client of mine (a radio station) has got a PC attached to a plasma TV which goes through a collection of pictures of events that they have been to. At the moment they are using the basic pictures screensaver which just works apart from the fact it doesn't have any fancy effects. Now the programme controller is really into anything and everything Google (Chrome, Picassa, etc) and he's asked if it's possible to setup some fancy transitions between the pictures (the Google Screensaver zooms in and fades nicely between the pictures). I just wondered if anyone know if there was anything for Ubuntu (or Kubuntu) that did the same? Not really a screensaver, but DigiKam has an advanced slideshow tool which allows all sorts of OpenGL transitions between photos and can be set to loop and shuffle photos. Ahh that might do the job. I just need something that is A) dead easy to use and B) can ideally start without any user intervention (so probably by a script which runs when the machine auto logs in). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu comic: Hackett and Bankwell
Wow, that comic is truely awful. I feel sorry for the person who put all that effort into the graphics, I really liked the attention to detail with the penguin receiving a call on his OpenMoko Freerunner. Shame the text was so bad - this is definitely NOT the message that should be put out there. Guy. On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 11:58 +, John Levin wrote: Hackett and Bankwell is a series of cartoon manuals that teaches readers how to get started with Linux-based operating systems. The first issue is best for users who are interested in switching to Ubuntu, including those who have tried to make the jump to Linux in the past but got confused and went back to a commercial operating system. First issue downloadable for free. http://hackettandbankwell.com/ -- John Levin http://www.technolalia.org/blog/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu comic: Hackett and Bankwell
Its very informative, and I actually learned a bit from it, but it was far too detailed for me to be able to sit and read happily. If I was trying to educate my mum on Linux, I may send her to it since my explanations failed. Simon Wears munkyju...@gmail.com | http://munkyju...@gmail.com MunkyJunky on irc.freenode.net On 26 Feb 2009, at 16:36, Guy Thouret li...@thouret.co.uk wrote: Wow, that comic is truely awful. I feel sorry for the person who put all that effort into the graphics, I really liked the attention to detail with the penguin receiving a call on his OpenMoko Freerunner. Shame the text was so bad - this is definitely NOT the message that should be put out there. Guy. On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 11:58 +, John Levin wrote: Hackett and Bankwell is a series of cartoon manuals that teaches readers how to get started with Linux-based operating systems. The first issue is best for users who are interested in switching to Ubuntu, including those who have tried to make the jump to Linux in the past but got confused and went back to a commercial operating system. First issue downloadable for free. http://hackettandbankwell.com/ -- John Levin http://www.technolalia.org/blog/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] HELP: How to install the Ubuntu in one of the existing partition in a hard disk?
2009/2/26 Robert Flatters robert.flatt...@googlemail.com: I thought Ubuntu gave you an manual option to setup the hard drive partition, which allowed for two systems on two separate partition. I know ive done it. It does indeed, but it doesn't explain or significantly help in locating and removing an existing Windows partition, which is what I was trying to explain. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat, Yahoo Skype: liamproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu comic: Hackett and Bankwell
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Simon Wears munkyju...@googlemail.comwrote: Its very informative, and I actually learned a bit from it, but it was far too detailed for me to be able to sit and read happily. If I was trying to educate my mum on Linux, I may send her to it since my explanations failed. Simon wearsmunkyju...@gmail.com | http://munkyju...@gmail.com http://munkyju...@gmail.com MunkyJunky on irc.freenode.net On 26 Feb 2009, at 16:36, Guy Thouret li...@thouret.co.uk wrote: Wow, that comic is truely awful. I feel sorry for the person who put all that effort into the graphics, I really liked the attention to detail with the penguin receiving a call on his OpenMoko Freerunner. Shame the text was so bad - this is definitely NOT the message that should be put out there. Guy. On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 11:58 +, John Levin wrote: Hackett and Bankwell is a series of cartoon manuals that teaches readers how to get started with Linux-based operating systems. The first issue is best for users who are interested in switching to Ubuntu, including those who have tried to make the jump to Linux in the past but got confused and went back to a commercial operating system. First issue downloadable for free.http://hackettandbankwell.com/ -- John Levinhttp://www.technolalia.org/blog/ I thought that the comic was illustrated beautifully but I felt that some of the storyline made me feel a little uncomfortable. I feels like a bit of a (for want of a better word) FUD'dy attack against Microsoft. Somewhat sensationalist, evangelical and perhaps slanderous. The concept is fantastic but the delivery focusing on FUD is pretty bad and could scare people off. Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK government backs open source
I admit I have no fondness for local government, in the first place. Somewhat tangentially related to that comment, I did always wonder why every local authority seemingly commissioned its own IT solution for managing council tax. Given that the way it's managed and collected is probably near identical throughout the country, this would be a perfect situation for a standard open source solution. Every council could have it and tweak it to add any extra feature they needed. The savings would be enormous. Robert. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK government backs open source
Those of you who have met me on this list know what I do for a living, so one must be careful what one says, but just bear in mind that a) many people who should be well-briefed are not (for example, I didn't know about this week's visit and given where I sit I should have known - unless of course discussion of opensource just popped up, which frankly happens at these kinds of events) and b) lots of people with 'purchasing power' so to speak can only handle what they are familiar with, and are frankly scared and confused by the new and the unfamiliar. You must also appreciate given the size and complexity of some Government systems (but by no means all) the cost of implementing an opensource solution to replace an existing system would be prohibitively expensive, at least in the short term, and thats just the cost of implementation, never mind what might happen if an existing Contract was broken, and Government's not about spending big bucks on the back-office right now, for obvious reasons. Just my 2p Pete -- 'In letters of gold, on a snow-white kite, I will write I Love You! And send it soaring high above you, for all to read!' RIP Billy M 1957-1997 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK government backs open source
Oh and on the SOCITM thing, you might not know that in addition to what they're doing in Newham, Bristol City Council's entire desktop estate is SuSe-driven. And I'm familiar with the chap who 'made it so' - they know what they're doing down in Zomerzet ;) Pete 2009/2/26 Pete Stean pete...@googlemail.com: Those of you who have met me on this list know what I do for a living, so one must be careful what one says, but just bear in mind that a) many people who should be well-briefed are not (for example, I didn't know about this week's visit and given where I sit I should have known - unless of course discussion of opensource just popped up, which frankly happens at these kinds of events) and b) lots of people with 'purchasing power' so to speak can only handle what they are familiar with, and are frankly scared and confused by the new and the unfamiliar. You must also appreciate given the size and complexity of some Government systems (but by no means all) the cost of implementing an opensource solution to replace an existing system would be prohibitively expensive, at least in the short term, and thats just the cost of implementation, never mind what might happen if an existing Contract was broken, and Government's not about spending big bucks on the back-office right now, for obvious reasons. Just my 2p Pete -- 'In letters of gold, on a snow-white kite, I will write I Love You! And send it soaring high above you, for all to read!' RIP Billy M 1957-1997 -- 'In letters of gold, on a snow-white kite, I will write I Love You! And send it soaring high above you, for all to read!' RIP Billy M 1957-1997 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] HELP: How to install the Ubuntu in one of the existing partition in a hard disk?
if you install gparted, you will be able to see where each partition is, and you'll be able to remove any partition you wish, it will appear under system-administration-Partition editor 2009/2/26 Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com 2009/2/26 Robert Flatters robert.flatt...@googlemail.com: I thought Ubuntu gave you an manual option to setup the hard drive partition, which allowed for two systems on two separate partition. I know ive done it. It does indeed, but it doesn't explain or significantly help in locating and removing an existing Windows partition, which is what I was trying to explain. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat, Yahoo Skype: liamproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Joseph Walton-Rivers - 'WebPigeon' Unity Coders Administrator, Unity Coders - Software, Game and Website reviews by the community, for the community. http://www.unitycoders.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK government backs open source
Quoting Pete Stean pete...@googlemail.com: Those of you who have met me on this list know what I do for a living, so one must be careful what one says, but just bear in mind that a) many people who should be well-briefed are not (for example, I didn't know about this week's visit and given where I sit I should have known - unless of course discussion of opensource just popped up, which frankly happens at these kinds of events) and b) lots of people with 'purchasing power' so to speak can only handle what they are familiar with, and are frankly scared and confused by the new and the unfamiliar. You must also appreciate given the size and complexity of some Government systems (but by no means all) the cost of implementing an opensource solution to replace an existing system would be prohibitively expensive, at least in the short term, and thats just the cost of implementation, never mind what might happen if an existing Contract was broken, and Government's not about spending big bucks on the back-office right now, for obvious reasons. I'm following this thread with interest as this appears to be developing into how Open Source Software can be used for Shared Services within Government. Having just finished developing a site for a company who provide Consultancy on Shared Services and are pro open-source for their own systems, I'm very interested to see if Open-Source will feature in some of their seminars. M. -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace matt...@truthisfreedom.org.uk http://www.truthisfreedom.org.uk/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] HELP: How to install the Ubuntu in one of the existing partition in a hard disk?
2009/2/26 Joseph Walton-Rivers webpig...@googlemail.com: if you install gparted, you will be able to see where each partition is, and you'll be able to remove any partition you wish, it will appear under system-administration-Partition editor He wants to install Ubuntu. To do this, he wants to get rid of his D: partition. Until he does that, he can't install Parted, so that suggestion is really not much help, is it? You did not suggest that he boot the LiveCD and run Parted from there, which would have been rather more use. However, in Linux, it can be rather hard to tell which drive is C: and which is D:. That is why I suggested using Windows to remove the partition. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat, Yahoo Skype: liamproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
