Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-02 Thread Michael G Fletcher
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Colin Murphy wrote:
> On Thursday 02 July 2009 19:33:09 LeeGroups wrote:
>> No ones, complained to me yet... And I use the Last.FM app to stream
>> music, it's brilliant,
>
> For me it's mainly the radio.  Beebplayer looks to be the app for me and my
> want for Live radio, just as soon as they get it working!
>

Just ran beebplayer on my HTC-Magic and the live radio worked :-) Yay

> What are people using to transfer files to/from G1's to desktop machines?  I
> know there is an SSH server running in there, but any news on a login
> password?

hmmm, at the moment I just plug in the USB cable and mount the SD
card.  If you want to access the root file system i think you need to
root the phone...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam a s a security camera

2009-07-02 Thread Colin Murphy
On Thursday 02 July 2009 19:33:09 LeeGroups wrote:
> No ones, complained to me yet... And I use the Last.FM app to stream 
> music, it's brilliant,

For me it's mainly the radio.  Beebplayer looks to be the app for me and my 
want for Live radio, just as soon as they get it working!

> [...] as long as you've remembered to charge the battery!

Yes, the battery.  A bigger, better battery is on my list of things to get.

Is there some sort of underground apps scene that I should know about, or is 
the Android market place the only place?

What are people using to transfer files to/from G1's to desktop machines?  I 
know there is an SSH server running in there, but any news on a login 
password?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-02 Thread Colin Murphy
On Thursday 02 July 2009 20:00:41 Ronnie Tucker wrote:
> What I did with my G1 was to unlock it, with a code (~£8) then stick a 3
> SIM in it. As long as the 3 SIM is activated and using data then it'll
> work dandy. They have a £5/mth bolt-on with unlimited data, you just use
> £5 from your available balance (if over £5) to buy the bolt-on.

Hmm, I wonder.  3 seem to do a 'Sim Zero' sim only one month contract for, 
err, £0.00 / pm.  If I can buy the £5 internet bolt on then I should be able 
to get my £1Gb for just £5/pm.  Beats T-Mobile's 1Gb for £20.00.

If I need more than 1Gb, I just buy another bolt-on.

I suspect I'll have to visit a 3 shop tomorrow to get the full lowdown.  I 
doub't it can be this simple.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-02 Thread Michael G Fletcher
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Ronnie Tucker wrote:
>
>

I have the HTC-Magic (G2) through vodafone, love it :-)

I did a review [1] and short video [2] if you are interested.  As
David mentioned, I think the fair use policy is 500MB, but I could
imagine hitting that on my phone, I'd have to be major downloading!
Cost is £35p/m and includes 600minutes, unlimited txt and "unlimited"
internet.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-02 Thread Ronnie Tucker
LeeGroups wrote:
> Colin Murphy wrote:
>   
>> On Thursday 02 July 2009 11:11:13 javadayaz wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Dont take the Unlimited at face value. The unlimited is 3gb's worth of
>>> data. Although they do say if you go over your limit you will be informed.
>>> Im with Tmobile. I do occassionaly stream audio but not that much.
>>> 
>>>   
>> Orange, who I am with, couldn't offer me anything, which is why I now have 
>> PAC 
>> code in hand and consider myself between contracts.
>>
>> Is the 3Gb a G1 special contract - I am looking at a T-Mobile solo (sim 
>> only) 
>> and the best I can find is 1Gb.  I must agree with Michael, T-Mobile do seem 
>> the best.
>>
>> I suppose what I was really looking for was a mobile phone package for voice 
>> that I could 'bolt-on' a mobile broadband package to, giving me, maybe, 3Gb 
>> or 5Gb - just doesn't seem to be an option.  When I mentioned this type of 
>> usage to the Orange customer services the guy nearly collapsed.
>>
>> I am looking for this bandwidth because I would like to dump FM radio and 
>> move 
>> to internet radio streaming instead.  Perhaps I'm just too ahead of the 
>> bleeding edge for this?
>>
>> Thank you all for not castigating me on my off topic post, which really was 
>> meant to go to Javad directly.
>> 
> Yes, the G1 has it's own tariff on T-Mobile, it's due to the G1 chatting 
> to Google 24/7.
> You can't get the tariff  without buying a G1.
> I've had mine six months and used a lot of bandwidth, can't say how much 
> exactly but a lot...
> No ones, complained to me yet... And I use the Last.FM app to stream 
> music, it's brilliant, as long as you've remembered to charge the battery!
>
> The cheapest tariff they do is £25/month, 200 txts/200mins (though I 
> think I got a special with 400 txts), and I paid £40 (I think) for the 
> phone.
> I don't you'll beat it, on sim only deal, and having to pay for the G1.
>
> Lee
>   
What I did with my G1 was to unlock it, with a code (~£8) then stick a 3 
SIM in it. As long as the 3 SIM is activated and using data then it'll 
work dandy. They have a £5/mth bolt-on with unlimited data, you just use 
£5 from your available balance (if over £5) to buy the bolt-on. I hardly 
use mine for calls (ironic for a mobile phone) so I put about £10 in it 
every few months.  :D

The G1 is easily the best phone I've ever had and I wouldn't part with it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] A bit of light relief

2009-07-02 Thread alan c
Barry Titterton wrote:
> Watch this video right to the end. It made me smile.
> 
> http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1886349
> It is quite an old video so apologies if you have all seen this before.
> Barry

:-)

it does not have many digs yet, I added one

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-02 Thread LeeGroups


Colin Murphy wrote:
> On Thursday 02 July 2009 11:11:13 javadayaz wrote:
>   
>> Dont take the Unlimited at face value. The unlimited is 3gb's worth of
>> data. Although they do say if you go over your limit you will be informed.
>> Im with Tmobile. I do occassionaly stream audio but not that much.
>> 
>
> Orange, who I am with, couldn't offer me anything, which is why I now have 
> PAC 
> code in hand and consider myself between contracts.
>
> Is the 3Gb a G1 special contract - I am looking at a T-Mobile solo (sim only) 
> and the best I can find is 1Gb.  I must agree with Michael, T-Mobile do seem 
> the best.
>
> I suppose what I was really looking for was a mobile phone package for voice 
> that I could 'bolt-on' a mobile broadband package to, giving me, maybe, 3Gb 
> or 5Gb - just doesn't seem to be an option.  When I mentioned this type of 
> usage to the Orange customer services the guy nearly collapsed.
>
> I am looking for this bandwidth because I would like to dump FM radio and 
> move 
> to internet radio streaming instead.  Perhaps I'm just too ahead of the 
> bleeding edge for this?
>
> Thank you all for not castigating me on my off topic post, which really was 
> meant to go to Javad directly.
Yes, the G1 has it's own tariff on T-Mobile, it's due to the G1 chatting 
to Google 24/7.
You can't get the tariff  without buying a G1.
I've had mine six months and used a lot of bandwidth, can't say how much 
exactly but a lot...
No ones, complained to me yet... And I use the Last.FM app to stream 
music, it's brilliant, as long as you've remembered to charge the battery!

The cheapest tariff they do is £25/month, 200 txts/200mins (though I 
think I got a special with 400 txts), and I paid £40 (I think) for the 
phone.
I don't you'll beat it, on sim only deal, and having to pay for the G1.

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[ubuntu-uk] A bit of light relief

2009-07-02 Thread Barry Titterton

Watch this video right to the end. It made me smile.

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1886349

It is quite an old video so apologies if you have all seen this before.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu mp3 players, again

2009-07-02 Thread Vinothan Shankar
Michael G Fletcher wrote:

>  Also, I never have to rebuild the library, i just put new music into
>  my music folder and it automatically updates the database.

Ditto Songbird.

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[ubuntu-uk] Acer TravelMate 5730

2009-07-02 Thread Rob Beard
Hi folks,

I've just finished setting up an Acer TravelMate 5730 for a customer of 
mine.  During the setup I created a recovery disk for the machine using 
PartImage and thought I'd mention that it works fine with Linux Mint 7.  
Although I didn't actually get chance to try it with Ubuntu (didn't have 
a disk handy) it worked well in Mint 7, the wireless (Intel wireless), 
Blue Tooth (Broadcom), wired ethernet (Broadcom) and everything just 
seemed to work.  In fact I had more luck with Mint than I did with XP 
which blue screened on installation (I had to change the BIOS settings 
for the SATA controller from AHCI to IDE to get it to work on XP).

I thought this might be useful for anyone looking for a notebook.  I did 
find though that they're not as cheap as some of the notebooks out there 
as they are aimed at businesses and have Vista Business pre-installed 
(along with an XP recovery disc) but I believe Acer do offer refunds on 
Windows although you do have to send it to their service centre down in 
Plymouth for them to remove the licence sticker and wipe the drive (I 
know, silly really).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-02 Thread Colin Murphy
On Thursday 02 July 2009 11:11:13 javadayaz wrote:
> Dont take the Unlimited at face value. The unlimited is 3gb's worth of
> data. Although they do say if you go over your limit you will be informed.
> Im with Tmobile. I do occassionaly stream audio but not that much.

Orange, who I am with, couldn't offer me anything, which is why I now have PAC 
code in hand and consider myself between contracts.

Is the 3Gb a G1 special contract - I am looking at a T-Mobile solo (sim only) 
and the best I can find is 1Gb.  I must agree with Michael, T-Mobile do seem 
the best.

I suppose what I was really looking for was a mobile phone package for voice 
that I could 'bolt-on' a mobile broadband package to, giving me, maybe, 3Gb 
or 5Gb - just doesn't seem to be an option.  When I mentioned this type of 
usage to the Orange customer services the guy nearly collapsed.

I am looking for this bandwidth because I would like to dump FM radio and move 
to internet radio streaming instead.  Perhaps I'm just too ahead of the 
bleeding edge for this?

Thank you all for not castigating me on my off topic post, which really was 
meant to go to Javad directly.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-02 Thread Michael Douglas
javadayaz wrote:
> Dont take the Unlimited at face value. The unlimited is 3gb's worth of 
> data. Although they do say if you go over your limit you will be 
> informed.
> Im with Tmobile. I do occassionaly stream audio but not that much.
T-Mobile are good with their plans.

I don't know about the G1 contract, but with my contract (not G1, 
clearly) the fair use is technically 1GB per month, but they don't cap. 
They will start to throttle your speed if you consistently go over this 
limit, but that's all.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-02 Thread javadayaz
Dont take the Unlimited at face value. The unlimited is 3gb's worth of data.
Although they do say if you go over your limit you will be informed.
Im with Tmobile. I do occassionaly stream audio but not that much.

2009/7/2 Colin Murphy 

> On Wednesday 01 July 2009 15:03:05 javadayaz wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > As some of you may know i have an android phone G1 phone. I would like to
> > avail the phones unlimited data plan.
>
> Hi Javad,
>I too have a G1, but am currently between phone plans, so I am
> looking for
> guidance.
>
>Might I ask, what network are you with?  How unlimited is 'unlimited
> bandwidth'? Do you stream audio to your phone?
>
>Thanks in advance for any clues.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-02 Thread David Jones
Colin Murphy wrote:
> On Wednesday 01 July 2009 15:03:05 javadayaz wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> As some of you may know i have an android phone G1 phone. I would like to
>> avail the phones unlimited data plan. 
>> 
>
> Hi Javad,
>   I too have a G1, but am currently between phone plans, so I am looking 
> for 
> guidance.
>
>   Might I ask, what network are you with?  How unlimited is 'unlimited 
> bandwidth'? Do you stream audio to your phone?
>
>   Thanks in advance for any clues.
>
>   
Colin

I've just got a HTC Magic (effectively the G2) on vodafone, my contract 
says unlimited, although the fair use policy does say 500Mb of data 
transfer per month.

HTH

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[ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-02 Thread Colin Murphy
On Wednesday 01 July 2009 15:03:05 javadayaz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As some of you may know i have an android phone G1 phone. I would like to
> avail the phones unlimited data plan. 

Hi Javad,
I too have a G1, but am currently between phone plans, so I am looking 
for 
guidance.

Might I ask, what network are you with?  How unlimited is 'unlimited 
bandwidth'? Do you stream audio to your phone?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-02 Thread javadayaz
Ok i know its a bit of general question, but does anyone know of cheap
webcams that just work in ubuntu. they have to be easy to set up.


Ps i have found some apps in android that let you put a URL in let you view
from there on phones home screen. So how would this work, would i have to
set up some sort of streaming website for this?


2009/7/1 Matthew Macdonald-Wallace 

>  Quoting javadayaz :
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > As some of you may know i have an android phone G1 phone. I would like to
> > avail the phones unlimited data plan. Some of you may also know about my
> > exploits are linking my media to a TV in my new house.
> >
> > I was just wondering if anyone here uses a webcam as security camera.
> > Preferably in Ubuntu. I would like the ability to "dial in" and look in
> as
> > well.
> >
> > Has anyone had any experience in this?
>
>
> http://www.zoneminder.com/
>
>
> IT works with USB and CCTV cameras including the ability to use Pan,
> Tilt and Zoom from the web interface.  IT allows you to setup Zones
> that trigger recording and even set time-restrictions on when it
> should record.
>
> It rocks.  I've used it commercially and the customer was delighted!
>
> I've also used it in my house and it worked fine using a Thinkpad 570
> laptop as the "server".
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Matt
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] linux kernel update

2009-07-02 Thread Alan Pope
2009/7/2 Michael G Fletcher :
>
> David, just checked mine in synaptic, and it looks like an upgrade
> from 2.6.28-13.44 to 2.6.28-13.45
>

Yes, an incremental patch rather than an ABI bump (which I believe
would have bumped the 13 to 14).

> so yes, modified version with security patches (you can see the
> changes made if you look at the bottom of update manager)
>

Or subscribe to the security mailing list so you get a mail when these
things happen..

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2009-July/000925.html

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] linux kernel update

2009-07-02 Thread Michael G Fletcher
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:32 AM, David King wrote:
> I am running Ubuntu 9.04, and a few days ago upgraded the kernel to
> 2.6.28-13.
>
> Today though the system update program says I have new updates, and it
> includes the same kernel again.
>
> Is it necessary to install the same one again, or is it a slightly
> modified version that I need instead of the one I am running? Although
> if it is different, surely the version number would be different?
>
> The output of uname -r shows:
> 2.6.28-13-generic
>
> David King

David, just checked mine in synaptic, and it looks like an upgrade
from 2.6.28-13.44 to 2.6.28-13.45

so yes, modified version with security patches (you can see the
changes made if you look at the bottom of update manager)

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[ubuntu-uk] linux kernel update

2009-07-02 Thread David King
I am running Ubuntu 9.04, and a few days ago upgraded the kernel to 
2.6.28-13.

Today though the system update program says I have new updates, and it 
includes the same kernel again.

Is it necessary to install the same one again, or is it a slightly 
modified version that I need instead of the one I am running? Although 
if it is different, surely the version number would be different?

The output of uname -r shows:
2.6.28-13-generic




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