Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-06 Thread James Milligan
On 06/04/2010 00:52, Daniel Case wrote:
 Yeah, I'm not too sure what happened to the official HackTheJoggler
 site: http://www.hackthejoggler.com/ all i get is a 404 message.

 The closest i have found is this: http://hackthejoggler.freeforums.org
 and it looks like its been dorment since the middle of 2009, so im not
 quite sure if anyone successfully booted the netbook remix from it?

 ~Daniel

 On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Kris Douglaskrisdoug...@gmail.com  wrote:

 On 6 April 2010 00:41, Daniel Casedanielcas...@googlemail.com  wrote:
  
 I think I may get one tomorrow, very cheap and interesting piece of
 hardware in my opinion if i can install Ubuntu Netbook Remix on it.

 I heard about it when it came out, but remember not liking the price,
 thank you for telling us about the offer Alan, wouldnt have known
 otherwise.

 Aye, thanks Alan. We should start a hacking thread, getting Ubuntu
 running on it, I've just ordered one too.


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 Unfortunately our top-level .co.uk domain had to be removed for legal 
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Perhaps why the .com has also been 'removed'.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-06 Thread Rob Beard
Alan Pope wrote:
 No, not that Apple thing, but the O2 Joggler.

 50 quid (for 14 days from 2nd April) and free delivery gets you a 7
 inch touch screen device with:-

 1.3GHz Intel Atom CPU
 1GB storage
 512MB RAM
 Wired ethernet
 Broadcom b/g/n WiFi
 Audio + headphone jack
 USB port

 http://shop.o2.co.uk/joggler

 It seems to come with a cut-down version of Ubuntu Hardy and can be
 flashed to run 'proper' Ubuntu or Netbook Edition if you wish.

 I thought it might be useful as a mythtv frontend for my desk or
 bedside, or maybe even an IP telephone when paired with a suitable USB
 headset.

 Some links I've gathered:-

 http://shop.o2.co.uk/joggler
 http://robhu.livejournal.com/750902.html
 http://magician.gforums.de/wiki/index.php5?title=UNE_Installation
 http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?p=21187242
 http://www.trustedreviews.com/peripherals/review/2009/07/01/O2-Joggler/p1
 http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/peripherals/253801/o2-joggler
 http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/646001/o2-joggler-49-99-now-with-free-app-

 Cheers,
 Al.

   
Hmm... I'm very interested.  Has anyone on the list actually got one of 
these yet?

I'm wondering what sort of power requirements it has (I gather it 
doesn't run off a battery which is a shame) but I'm interested to know 
if it has a fairly standard power supply (such as 12 volt PSU or laptop 
PSU)?

What I'm thinking is maybe something like this would make a great in-car 
media player (either for playing MP3s or XVid movies to keep the kids 
quiet on long journeys) at least if it can be powered off a cigarette 
lighter socket (or alternatively an inverter).

Sounds like a good excuse to pop down to the O2 store later on.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-06 Thread Daniel Case
Trying to get one today, went to the nearest O2 store but they were
out of stock...so im going to have to try Doncaster.

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Tony Scott tonyscott...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Just ordered one myself from the O2 site - looking forward to running Netbook 
 Edition on it


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 - Original Message 
 From: Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk
 To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
 Sent: Tue, 6 April, 2010 9:38:23
 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

 Alan Pope wrote:
 No, not that Apple thing, but the O2
 Joggler.

 50 quid (for 14 days from 2nd April) and free delivery
 gets you a 7
 inch touch screen device with:-

 1.3GHz
 Intel Atom CPU
 1GB storage
 512MB RAM
 Wired
 ethernet
 Broadcom b/g/n WiFi
 Audio + headphone jack
 USB
 port


 http://shop.o2.co.uk/joggler

 It seems to come with a
 cut-down version of Ubuntu Hardy and can be
 flashed to run 'proper'
 Ubuntu or Netbook Edition if you wish.

 I thought it might be
 useful as a mythtv frontend for my desk or
 bedside, or maybe even an IP
 telephone when paired with a suitable USB
 headset.

 Some
 links I've gathered:-


 target=_blank http://shop.o2.co.uk/joggler

 href=http://robhu.livejournal.com/750902.html; target=_blank
 http://robhu.livejournal.com/750902.html

 href=http://magician.gforums.de/wiki/index.php5?title=UNE_Installation;
 target=_blank
 http://magician.gforums.de/wiki/index.php5?title=UNE_Installation


 http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?p=21187242

 href=http://www.trustedreviews.com/peripherals/review/2009/07/01/O2-Joggler/p1;
 target=_blank
 http://www.trustedreviews.com/peripherals/review/2009/07/01/O2-Joggler/p1


 target=_blank
 http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/peripherals/253801/o2-joggler

 href=http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/646001/o2-joggler-49-99-now-with-free-app-;
 target=_blank
 http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/646001/o2-joggler-49-99-now-with-free-app-


 Cheers,
 Al.


 Hmm... I'm very interested.
 Has anyone on the list actually got one of
 these yet?

 I'm wondering
 what sort of power requirements it has (I gather it
 doesn't run off a
 battery which is a shame) but I'm interested to know
 if it has a fairly
 standard power supply (such as 12 volt PSU or laptop
 PSU)?

 What I'm
 thinking is maybe something like this would make a great in-car
 media player
 (either for playing MP3s or XVid movies to keep the kids
 quiet on long
 journeys) at least if it can be powered off a cigarette
 lighter socket (or
 alternatively an inverter).

 Sounds like a good excuse to pop down to the
 O2 store later on.

 Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-06 Thread Chris Rowson
 No, not that Apple thing, but the O2 Joggler.

 50 quid (for 14 days from 2nd April) and free delivery gets you a 7
 inch touch screen device with:-

 1.3GHz Intel Atom CPU
 1GB storage
 512MB RAM
 Wired ethernet
 Broadcom b/g/n WiFi
 Audio + headphone jack
 USB port

 http://shop.o2.co.uk/joggler

 It seems to come with a cut-down version of Ubuntu Hardy and can be
 flashed to run 'proper' Ubuntu or Netbook Edition if you wish.

 I thought it might be useful as a mythtv frontend for my desk or
 bedside, or maybe even an IP telephone when paired with a suitable USB
 headset.

 Some links I've gathered:-

 http://shop.o2.co.uk/joggler
 http://robhu.livejournal.com/750902.html
 http://magician.gforums.de/wiki/index.php5?title=UNE_Installation
 http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?p=21187242
 http://www.trustedreviews.com/peripherals/review/2009/07/01/O2-Joggler/p1
 http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/peripherals/253801/o2-joggler
 http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/646001/o2-joggler-49-99-now-with-free-app-

 Cheers,
 Al.


Thanks for the tip Al, just ordered one.

Cheers

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-06 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Trying to get one today, went to the nearest O2 store but they were
 out of stock...so im going to have to try Doncaster.

 Just ordered mine online and expecting it in  5days... something to play
with when I'm on Holiday next week.  Wondering if Popey's on commission
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-06 Thread James Thomas
Bet Popey wishes he was on commission...
:)

On 6 April 2010 13:59, Paul Morgan-Roach roa...@roachy.net wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Daniel Case 
 danielcas...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Trying to get one today, went to the nearest O2 store but they were
 out of stock...so im going to have to try Doncaster.

 Just ordered mine online and expecting it in  5days... something to play
 with when I'm on Holiday next week.  Wondering if Popey's on commission
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-06 Thread Simon Swaysland
o2 shop @Cannon St, London has got them in stock.

Simon

On 6 April 2010 14:01, James Thomas selin...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Bet Popey wishes he was on commission...
 :)

 On 6 April 2010 13:59, Paul Morgan-Roach roa...@roachy.net wrote:

  On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com
  wrote:

 Trying to get one today, went to the nearest O2 store but they were
 out of stock...so im going to have to try Doncaster.

 Just ordered mine online and expecting it in  5days... something to play
 with when I'm on Holiday next week.  Wondering if Popey's on commission
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-06 Thread Daniel Case
Just got mine now, last one too, after checking 5 shops in 4 differant towns -.-

I'l be having a good look when i get home tonight, quite excited lol
:) happy hacking everyone! ^.^

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Simon Swaysland
simon.swaysl...@gmail.com wrote:
 o2 shop @Cannon St, London has got them in stock.

 Simon

 On 6 April 2010 14:01, James Thomas selin...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Bet Popey wishes he was on commission...
 :)

 On 6 April 2010 13:59, Paul Morgan-Roach roa...@roachy.net wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 Trying to get one today, went to the nearest O2 store but they were
 out of stock...so im going to have to try Doncaster.

 Just ordered mine online and expecting it in  5days... something to play
 with when I'm on Holiday next week.  Wondering if Popey's on commission
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-06 Thread Alan Pope
On 6 April 2010 14:16, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Just got mine now, last one too, after checking 5 shops in 4 differant towns 
 -.-


Fantastic news :)

I ordered mine last night just _before_ sending the mail ;)

 I'l be having a good look when i get home tonight, quite excited lol
 :) happy hacking everyone! ^.^


Be good to keep notes somewhere, how about here:-

http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/Joggler

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-06 Thread Daniel Case
Ahhh good plan,

I didnt want to wait another day for mine, but what was going to the
local O2 store, sent me all the way across yorkshire XD

It looks like it was worth it though, And sure that works for me,
saved in my favourites :)

Daniel

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:
 On 6 April 2010 14:16, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Just got mine now, last one too, after checking 5 shops in 4 differant towns 
 -.-


 Fantastic news :)

 I ordered mine last night just _before_ sending the mail ;)

 I'l be having a good look when i get home tonight, quite excited lol
 :) happy hacking everyone! ^.^


 Be good to keep notes somewhere, how about here:-

 http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/Joggler

 Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-06 Thread James Thomas
Phoned around 3 x o2 stores, got the last joggler at store number 3...
If anyone wants to buy a joggler and can't #blamepopey

:)



On 6 April 2010 14:26, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Ahhh good plan,

 I didnt want to wait another day for mine, but what was going to the
 local O2 store, sent me all the way across yorkshire XD

 It looks like it was worth it though, And sure that works for me,
 saved in my favourites :)

 Daniel

 On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:
  On 6 April 2010 14:16, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com wrote:
  Just got mine now, last one too, after checking 5 shops in 4 differant
 towns -.-
 
 
  Fantastic news :)
 
  I ordered mine last night just _before_ sending the mail ;)
 
  I'l be having a good look when i get home tonight, quite excited lol
  :) happy hacking everyone! ^.^
 
 
  Be good to keep notes somewhere, how about here:-
 
  http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/Joggler
 
  Cheers,
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[ubuntu-uk] Fwd: [dundee] DVWA at the society 8th

2010-04-06 Thread azmodie
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From: fi...@finux.co.uk
Date: 5 April 2010 19:10
Subject: [dundee] DVWA at the society 8th
To: dun...@lists.lug.org.uk


Hi Guys,

As a trip down memory lane, i'm sending out the reminder for this meeting.

The University of Abertay Dundee Linux Society;

Are proud to announce that Tom Mackenzie of Random Storm will be
talking to the Linux Society on Thursday the 8th of April about Damn
Vulnerable Web App (DVWA).  DVWA has rocketed to forefront of its
competitors for its amazing talent of teaching web developers, ethical
hackers, and interested individuals how web application can be both
secure and insecure.

TALK ABSTRACT;

The talk is going to consist of three sections.

The first section is going to be a brief introduction about myself, my
background and how I first got into this line of work.

The second section is going to look at DVWA which is an open source
web application created by Ryan Dewhurst and has been recently
acquired by RandomStorm LTD. DVWA stand for Damn Vulnerable Web
Application and was created as an aid for security professionals to
test their skills and tools in a legal environment, help web
developers better understand the processes of securing web
applications and aid teachers/students to teach/learn web application
security in a class room environment.

The third section is going to look at specific web application
vulnerabilities i.e. SQL Injection and Cross Site Scripting, how they
work and how they can be prevented. DVWA incorporates a high security
level which will be used here to present what security should be in
place in that particular environment.

END OF ABSTRACT

The talk is free and open to everyone, including non-students.  This
is a fantastic opportunity to get into grass roots security testing,
and you never know you may actually learn a thing or two.

Feel free to pass this around to anyone you think may find it of interest

http://thelinuxsociety.org.uk/content/damn-vulnerable-web-app-a-talk-by-thomas-mackenzie

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-06 Thread Mark Fraser
On Tuesday 06 Apr 2010 00:03:20 Alan Pope wrote:
 No, not that Apple thing, but the O2 Joggler.
 
 50 quid (for 14 days from 2nd April) and free delivery gets you a 7
 inch touch screen device with:-
 
 1.3GHz Intel Atom CPU
 1GB storage
 512MB RAM
 Wired ethernet
 Broadcom b/g/n WiFi
 Audio + headphone jack
 USB port
 
 http://shop.o2.co.uk/joggler
 
 It seems to come with a cut-down version of Ubuntu Hardy and can be
 flashed to run 'proper' Ubuntu or Netbook Edition if you wish.
 
 I thought it might be useful as a mythtv frontend for my desk or
 bedside, or maybe even an IP telephone when paired with a suitable USB
 headset.

Ordered one at the weekend after the deal was posted on HotUKDeals. Haven't 
decided if I'm going to use it as supplied or try hacking it in some way.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-06 Thread Bob Giles
On 04/06/2010 02:03 AM, Alan Pope wrote:
 It seems to come with a cut-down version of Ubuntu Hardy and can be
 flashed to run 'proper' Ubuntu or Netbook Edition if you wish.

 I thought it might be useful as a mythtv frontend for my desk or
 bedside, or maybe even an IP telephone when paired with a suitable USB
 headset.

 Some links I've gathered:-

 http://shop.o2.co.uk/joggler
 http://robhu.livejournal.com/750902.html
 http://magician.gforums.de/wiki/index.php5?title=UNE_Installation
 http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?p=21187242
 http://www.trustedreviews.com/peripherals/review/2009/07/01/O2-Joggler/p1
 http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/peripherals/253801/o2-joggler
 http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/646001/o2-joggler-49-99-now-with-free-app-

 Cheers,
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Bugger!

Here I am half way up a mountain in Greece thinking, Hmm! This sounds 
like a good hacking project! Then I hit the link to O2's site only to 
receive the message, Thanks for visiting the O2 Online Shop. 
Unfortunately, we are unable to sell to countries outside the UK.

Methinks it is time to fire up LogMeIn and speak to them via Cambridge!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-06 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Bob Giles thecorf...@gmail.com wrote:


 Methinks it is time to fire up LogMeIn and speak to them via Cambridge!

 Logmein?? just ssh -D  to a box in this country and set your browser to
use localhost: as a socks proxy :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-06 Thread Bruno Girin
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 15:27 +0100, James Thomas wrote:
 Phoned around 3 x o2 stores, got the last joggler at store number 3...
 If anyone wants to buy a joggler and can't #blamepopey
 
 
 :)

The Camden Town shop was so busy I gave up, went home and ordered it
online. Now I just have to work out what to do with it. I'll probably
try to use it out of the box to start with but installing a cut-down
version of Lucid with the Moblin desktop on top sounds tempting.
Alternatively, I wonder if it'd be a good device to run Moovida[1] on.

[1] http://www.moovida.com/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-06 Thread Rob Beard
Bruno Girin wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 15:27 +0100, James Thomas wrote:
   
 Phoned around 3 x o2 stores, got the last joggler at store number 3...
 If anyone wants to buy a joggler and can't #blamepopey


 :)
 

 The Camden Town shop was so busy I gave up, went home and ordered it
 online. Now I just have to work out what to do with it. I'll probably
 try to use it out of the box to start with but installing a cut-down
 version of Lucid with the Moblin desktop on top sounds tempting.
 Alternatively, I wonder if it'd be a good device to run Moovida[1] on.

 [1] http://www.moovida.com/

 Bruno

   
I popped in the O2 store in Torquay today and had a quick 30 second play 
with it.  I really am impressed with the touch screen.  I haven't picked 
one up yet but I am tempted.  I've just got to figure out how to run the 
thing in a car (assuming it's possible).  It's a shame it hasn't got 
some sort of video output too as I know someone who is looking for a 
basic web surfing PC and I bet this would have been ideal.

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[ubuntu-uk] Digital economy bill

2010-04-06 Thread Thomas Ibbotson
I'm surprised no-one's pointed this out yet:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8605648.stm

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Digital economy bill

2010-04-06 Thread doug livesey
And if you're as appalled as other people, this may come in handy:
http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/speakout/extremeinternetl
You never know -- democracy might actually work.
I know, I know ...

On 6 April 2010 22:32, Thomas Ibbotson thomas.ibbot...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm surprised no-one's pointed this out yet:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8605648.stm

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Digital economy bill

2010-04-06 Thread Jon Farmer
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 22:32 +0100, Thomas Ibbotson wrote:
 I'm surprised no-one's pointed this out yet:
 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8605648.stm
 
 Tom
 

So on one hand the other side are using emotive language. Then he goes
on to quote Carter and say copyright infringement is theft, which is
both ill-informed and emotive.

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[ubuntu-uk] iPhone software....

2010-04-06 Thread John Matthews
I just got myself an iPhone today, and was wondering, is there software 
fort it on Ubuntu? If so can somebody point me in the right direction? 
Hopefully for a novice to install.

Thank you.

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