Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still have upgrade problems

2010-05-27 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 26 May 2010 13:41, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:
 Hi,

 On 26 May 2010 13:36, Cornelius Mostert corneliusmost...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 When I run the Update manager and it scan for updates I get this:
 W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following
 signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available:
 NO_PUBKEY 9BDB3D89CE49EC21



 Google + 9BDB3D89CE49EC21 = Lots of hits! :)

 http://wan.pengganas.net/entry/keep-your-ubuntu-updated/

 gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 9BDB3D89CE49EC21
 gpg --export --armor 9BDB3D89CE49EC21 | sudo apt-key add -

 Should sort it.


You can also do this in one command:

sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 9BDB3D89CE49EC21

should do the same as the 2 lines Popey wrote.


Cofion/Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Gparted

2010-05-27 Thread Philip Stubbs
On 26 May 2010 16:45, Dianne Reuby pramc...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Reminds me of a relative who phoned me a few years ago and complained
 his (Windows) PC wouldn't boot.

 What were you doing when you last used it?
 Just deleting some files I never use
 Like what?
 command.com, something like that
 You may have a problem there ...

LOL :-)

I had a friend who also called me with
My computer will not start
What did you do?
Well it said that I was running out of memory, and to close some
applications. So I deleted Windows/System32. I don't use a program
called System32 so I deleted it. Did I do something wrong?

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[ubuntu-uk] Using lsb_release shows some strange things

2010-05-27 Thread John Matthews
I saw you suggesting to another person getting the release version by 
running lsb_release. I tried that and got nothing like what was posted 
on the OP's e-mail. Here is what i got.

LSB Version:
core-2.0-ia32:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-ia32:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-ia32:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-ia32:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-ia32:core-4.0-noarch

I remember a couple of weeks ago, posting about problems with the Grub, 
showing all those kernels. Would anybody know why I am getting this when 
using this command, and how I get around it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using lsb_release shows some strange things

2010-05-27 Thread Alan Pope
On 27 May 2010 09:48, John Matthews jake...@sky.com wrote:
 I saw you suggesting to another person getting the release version by
 running lsb_release. I tried that and got nothing like what was posted
 on the OP's e-mail. Here is what i got.

 LSB Version:
 core-2.0-ia32:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-ia32:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-ia32:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-ia32:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-ia32:core-4.0-noarch


Looks like you missed out the -a..

a...@bishop:~$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description:Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
Release:10.04
Codename:   lucid

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using lsb_release shows some strange things

2010-05-27 Thread John Matthews
On 27/05/10 10:04, Alan Pope wrote:
 On 27 May 2010 09:48, John Matthewsjake...@sky.com  wrote:

 I saw you suggesting to another person getting the release version by
 running lsb_release. I tried that and got nothing like what was posted
 on the OP's e-mail. Here is what i got.

 LSB Version:
 core-2.0-ia32:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-ia32:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-ia32:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-ia32:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-ia32:core-4.0-noarch

  
 Looks like you missed out the -a..

 a...@bishop:~$ lsb_release -a
 No LSB modules are available.
 Distributor ID: Ubuntu
 Description:Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
 Release:10.04
 Codename:   lucid

 Cheers,
 Al.



Ah, thanks for seeing that. I tried again, and this is what I get.

LSB Version: 
core-2.0-ia32:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-ia32:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-ia32:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-ia32:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-ia32:core-4.0-noarch
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
Release: 10.04
Codename: lucid

What is all that stuff at the top.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using lsb_release shows some strange things

2010-05-27 Thread Alan Pope
On 27 May 2010 10:08, John Matthews jake...@sky.com wrote:
 Ah, thanks for seeing that. I tried again, and this is what I get.

 LSB Version:
 core-2.0-ia32:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-ia32:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-ia32:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-ia32:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-ia32:core-4.0-noarch
 Distributor ID: Ubuntu
 Description: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
 Release: 10.04
 Codename: lucid

 What is all that stuff at the top.


It's just displaying some detail about lsb-* packages you have
installed. Explained a bit here:-

https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lsb/+bug/66914/comments/2

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Meego and Ubuntu

2010-05-27 Thread YaManicKill
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Am just trying it in a VM, and if I like it, I'll install it on my
lenovo ideapad s10e. It looks really good.

YaM

On 05/26/2010 09:00 PM, Liam Wilson wrote:
 Hey all;
 
 As some of you may know, Meego for Netbooks was released today
 (http://meego.com/downloads/releases/netbook) and I thinking about
 dual-booting it with UNE, but was wondering if anyone else has tried it
 yet, and if you have, how is it?
 
 
 I'm downloading it as I type
 
 Cheers;
 
 Liam
 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still have upgrade problems

2010-05-27 Thread Cornelius Mostert
I am getting this:

Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring
--secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg
--keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys
9BDB3D89CE49EC21
gpg: requesting key CE49EC21 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
gpgkeys: key 9BDB3D89CE49EC21 not found on keyserver
gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
gpg: Total number processed: 0

I have to say that we are behind a nasty firewall and proxy so I might have
to provide a user name and password, is it possible to do that inline of the
command or how would I do that?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Gparted

2010-05-27 Thread Rowan Berkeley
Well, now I've got 10.04 installed (whatever my system monitor may
think), and I have also got 10.04 on a Live CD. However, I do not see
how I could run Gparted from the Live CD with my internal hard drive
unmounted, because I installed Gparted on my internal hard drive, and I
imagine it is not present on the Live CD, not being a part of the basic
installation (though I assume the Disk Utility is there).


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Gparted

2010-05-27 Thread Dave Morley
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 12:24 +0100, Rowan Berkeley wrote:
 Well, now I've got 10.04 installed (whatever my system monitor may
 think), and I have also got 10.04 on a Live CD. However, I do not see
 how I could run Gparted from the Live CD with my internal hard drive
 unmounted, because I installed Gparted on my internal hard drive, and I
 imagine it is not present on the Live CD, not being a part of the basic
 installation (though I assume the Disk Utility is there).
 
 
It is what the installer users to format hard drives so it is present on
the live cd.

If it wasn't you could still install it anyway in the same manner as you
would on installed system
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Gparted

2010-05-27 Thread Daniel M. Drummond
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 12:24 +0100, Rowan Berkeley wrote:
 Well, now I've got 10.04 installed (whatever my system monitor may
 think), and I have also got 10.04 on a Live CD. However, I do not see
 how I could run Gparted from the Live CD with my internal hard drive
 unmounted, because I installed Gparted on my internal hard drive, and I
 imagine it is not present on the Live CD, not being a part of the basic
 installation (though I assume the Disk Utility is there).
 
 
It is on the LiveCD, it isn't installed by default to the system
presumably so users don't mess something up accidentally.

Dan



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still have upgrade problems

2010-05-27 Thread John Stevenson
On 27 May 2010 12:15, Cornelius Mostert corneliusmost...@googlemail.comwrote:

 I am getting this:

 Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring
 --secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg
 --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com--recv-keys 
 9BDB3D89CE49EC21
 gpg: requesting key CE49EC21 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
 gpgkeys: key 9BDB3D89CE49EC21 not found on keyserver
 gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
 gpg: Total number processed: 0

 I have to say that we are behind a nasty firewall and proxy so I might have
 to provide a user name and password, is it possible to do that inline of the
 command or how would I do that?


Depending on which tool you use to install packages, you can define a proxy
server and port.  The proxy may need your login and password details too...

From the article http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1575.html

Proxy support for apt-get package management:
In a terminal window and edit the apt configuration file

gksudo gedit /etc/apt/apt.conf 

Add the following lines to this configuration file and save it:

ACQUIRE {
http::proxy http://username:pa...@host:port/;
}


If you run any apt-based command then hopefully they will pick up this
setting.  Try open a new terminal if it does not work after you saved the
file.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Meego and Ubuntu

2010-05-27 Thread Philip Stubbs
On 27 May 2010 10:58, YaManicKill mailingl...@10people.co.uk wrote:
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 Am just trying it in a VM, and if I like it, I'll install it on my
 lenovo ideapad s10e. It looks really good.

What VM are you using? I have tried it in Virtualbox on a Windows
machine, but it complains about missing framebuffer

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Meego and Ubuntu

2010-05-27 Thread YaManicKill
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Tried it in Vbox also, but it doesn't seem to work. So, I'm currently
popping it on a usb stick to run on my netbook.

Yam

On 05/27/2010 02:22 PM, Philip Stubbs wrote:
 On 27 May 2010 10:58, YaManicKill mailingl...@10people.co.uk wrote:
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 Am just trying it in a VM, and if I like it, I'll install it on my
 lenovo ideapad s10e. It looks really good.
 
 What VM are you using? I have tried it in Virtualbox on a Windows
 machine, but it complains about missing framebuffer
 

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[ubuntu-uk] OT: DRUPAL site got killed...

2010-05-27 Thread Cornelius Mostert
Hi all
This is off topic but I am not sure where to go.
My site got killed and state:
*The selected file  could not be copied, because no file by that name
exists. Please check that you supplied the correct filename.***

I tried to reload all the modules but no luck!! How do I check WHAT files
were missing so I can try to replace them...

My Site: www.cjmITsystems.com

thanx

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: DRUPAL site got killed...

2010-05-27 Thread Martin Jernberg

it seems to work here, even if the css is not good at all :p

Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 17:00:32 +0100
From: corneliusmost...@googlemail.com
To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] OT: DRUPAL site got killed...

Hi all
This is off topic but I am not sure where to go.
My site got killed and state:
The selected file  could not be copied, because no file by that name exists. 
Please check that you supplied the correct filename.

I tried to reload all the modules but no luck!! How do I check WHAT files were 
missing so I can try to replace them...

My Site: www.cjmITsystems.com

thanx


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: DRUPAL site got killed...

2010-05-27 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 27 May 2010 17:00, Cornelius Mostert corneliusmost...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi all
 This is off topic but I am not sure where to go.
 My site got killed and state:
 The selected file  could not be copied, because no file by that name exists.
 Please check that you supplied the correct filename.

 I tried to reload all the modules but no luck!! How do I check WHAT files
 were missing so I can try to replace them...

 My Site: www.cjmITsystems.com

 thanx

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Seems to be working.

/s Surely as Senior IT Specialist this should be a piece of cake? :P

Do a search on the Drupal forums; if you have the error someone else
will have had the error.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: DRUPAL site got killed...

2010-05-27 Thread Colin McCarthy
On 27 May 2010 17:00, Cornelius Mostert corneliusmost...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Hi all
 This is off topic but I am not sure where to go.


Did you not think to look on http://drupal.org/support
They even have a 'Help' Forum http://drupal.org/forum

Colin
More Senior IT Specialist with embedded ability to Google :P
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Gparted

2010-05-27 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 12:24 +0100, Rowan Berkeley
rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, now I've got 10.04 installed (whatever my system monitor may
 think), and I have also got 10.04 on a Live CD. However, I do not 
 see how I could run Gparted from the Live CD with my internal hard 
 drive unmounted, because I installed Gparted on my internal hard 
 drive, and I imagine it is not present on the Live CD, not being a 
 part of the basic installation (though I assume the Disk Utility is
 there).

On Thu, 27 May 2010 12:30:19 +0100, Daniel M. Drummond
dmdrummo...@gmail.com wrote:
 It is on the LiveCD, it isn't installed by default to the system
 presumably so users don't mess something up accidentally. Dan


On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 17:06 +0100, Dave Morley davm...@davmor2.co.uk
wrote:
 It is what the installer users to format hard drives so it is present
 on the live cd. If it wasn't you could still install it anyway in the
 same manner as you would on installed system.

This Live CD sounds like an amazing box of tricks. I shall have to run
it just for an exploratory session. Presumably I can just stick it in,
reboot, and see what happens. Thinking about it, it can't unmount the
internal hard disk completely, it must be using it, in its own way.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Gparted

2010-05-27 Thread Colin Law
On 27 May 2010 17:47, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...
 This Live CD sounds like an amazing box of tricks. I shall have to run
 it just for an exploratory session. Presumably I can just stick it in,
 reboot, and see what happens. Thinking about it, it can't unmount the
 internal hard disk completely, it must be using it, in its own way.

You can run off the live CD with no hard disk at all.  As has been
mentioned previously it will use the swap partition if it finds one,
but that can be turned off in gparted.  Then it will not be using the
hard disk at all.  Also it is not a matter of 'unmounting' the hard
disk, it will never be mounted in the first place (apart from swap as
mentioned).  'Mounting' is something that the OS does as it starts up,
so it is up the the OS on the live CD whether it mounts the disk or
not.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: DRUPAL site got killed...

2010-05-27 Thread Alan Pope
On 27 May 2010 17:00, Cornelius Mostert corneliusmost...@googlemail.com wrote:
 This is off topic but I am not sure where to go.
 My site got killed and state:

'site got killed' isn't a particularly useful description of the
problem. What were you doing at the time? What has changed recently?
Have you installed any additional modules, upgraded the site or have
some other system changes been done?

 The selected file  could not be copied, because no file by that name exists.
 Please check that you supplied the correct filename.


Googling for that error message returns some useful hits. You didn't
specify what version of drupal you're running or what you did that
triggered the error so hard to know which of the hits might be useful
to you.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chromeie=UTF-8q=The+selected+file+could+not+be+copied,+because+no+file+by+that+name+exists.+Please+check+that+you+supplied+the+correct+filename.

Amusingly your very message appears on the first page.

To everyone else replying on this thread, please keep it friendly.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Gparted

2010-05-27 Thread Alan Pope
On 27 May 2010 17:47, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote:
 This Live CD sounds like an amazing box of tricks.

The Ubuntu Live CD has two main purposes. To allow new users to 'try'
Ubuntu and see if they like what they see, and secondly to install
Ubuntu onto a computer. A side benefit of it being a live environment
is that you can use it for troubleshooting, diagnostics and problem
resolution. It's a handy thing to have kicking around.

Ubuntu didn't invent the concept of Live CDs, but certainly (along
with Knoppix) helped to make it popular amongst mainstream Linux
distributions. There are Live CDs and Live DVDs which contain even
more utilities and tools. Indeed there are some which are designed to
be run from a CD/DVD and not be installed at all.

I recall visiting someone about 6 years ago who used a Knoppix live CD
as his main desktop. He didn't actually have a fully installed system
at all.

 I shall have to run
 it just for an exploratory session. Presumably I can just stick it in,
 reboot, and see what happens. Thinking about it, it can't unmount the
 internal hard disk completely, it must be using it, in its own way.


Stick it in, reboot and you may need to invoke the BIOS or some other
boot menu to select the CD to boot from. Many computers ship with the
hard disk being the default boot device, and need to be tweaked to
boot from CD. Others have a menu which can be invoked with a single
keypress at boot time, from which you can select the boot device. More
recent devices can be booted not only from the internal hard disk and
an optical drive but also from a USB device. As such you can (using
special tools) copy a Live CD 'image' to a USB stick and boot from
that. This can be quicker than booting from CD, and is more portable.

It will auto mount partitions on the hard disk which are FAT/FAT32,
but won't automount EXT2/3/4 or NTFS (I think) partitions.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

2010-05-27 Thread Matthew Daubney
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 00:17 +0100, James Tait wrote:
snip
 Matthew Daubney wrote:
 [snip!]
  Secondly, thanks to the people who turned up to my (frankly awful) talk
  at Oggcamp on this subject. Next time I have a chance to talk about what
  I'm trying to achieve I _should_ be able to do it better! As a result of
  that I have some notes I'm slowly going through to gain some ideas of
  how to move forward, but this moves me onto point three.
 
 Well I was in that talk and I thought you did fine, so thank you.
 

Phew, at least someone was listening! Thanks for coming along.

  So really, what drives you to support people? What, in your own opinion,
  could be done to help motivate yourself to do better?
 
 So many reasons I'm bound to forget as many as I list.
 
  * I believe in the software and the people behind it.
  * I believe in the power of the community - if we each do a little bit
we can achieve a lot.
  * I like sticking it to The Man!
  * I was that cluebie newless once!
  * When I first started *really* using Ubuntu a few years ago, Popey was
a massive inspiration to me, my hero.  As time has gone on, more
people have done the same.  I hope that I can inspire people and
maybe be someone's hero too.
  * Supporting other users is one way of giving back to a community that
has given me so much.
  * Sometimes that little bit of help makes someone's day.
  * Sometimes they even thank you!
  * It's beneficial for me to understand users' problems.
  * It's beneficial for me to demonstrate that I know the answers to
users' problems.
  * It's beneficial for me to learn from users' problems.
  * I cannot bear to think of a life where every day I get up, drop the
kids at school, go to work, pick the kids up, go back to work, come
home, eat, go to bed and start all over again.
  * Often my day job is so infuriatingly frustrating I like to achieve
something with my evening so the day isn't wasted.
  * I'm a geek.
  * I enjoy a challenge and don't like to quit.
 

That's quite a long list! Here's an interesting side question, what
would help motivate you to improve the way you support people? How do
you think it could be improved?  

 There are *loads* more, but that should get you started.  It's not all
 philanthropic, I do stuff that benefits me too - but the beauty of Free
 Software is that even when I'm scratching my own itch, I'm usually
 scratching someone else's itch too.

 Hope this helps,
 

More than you could imagine :) Thanks

-Matt Daubney


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: DRUPAL site got killed...

2010-05-27 Thread Dan Attwood
you css filepaths look very odd and they aren't loading. I would expect the
files to be with the theme they are attached to rather then in files


Also there have been a large number of security fixes to Drupal modules
recently so I hope you've got the email alerts turned on and been keep them
up to date.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: DRUPAL site got killed...

2010-05-27 Thread ian pettitt (RRes-BB)




On 27 May 2010, at 21:41, Dan Attwood danattw...@googlemail.com  
wrote:

 you css filepaths look very odd and they aren't loading. I would  
 expect the files to be with the theme they are attached to rather  
 then in files


 Also there have been a large number of security fixes to Drupal  
 modules recently so I hope you've got the email alerts turned on and  
 been keep them up to date.
 ATT1..txt

I would check the permissions on the cache/files folder, if the  
webserver can't write to them the css files won't be generated -  
drupal combines multiple css files into a single file. The required  
permissions can be found in the installation guide on the drupal  
website.

Thank
Ian

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support

2010-05-27 Thread James Tait
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On 27/05/10 19:12, Matthew Daubney wrote:
[snip!]
 That's quite a long list! Here's an interesting side question, what
 would help motivate you to improve the way you support people? How do
 you think it could be improved?  

That's a much more difficult question to answer, which is why I neatly
side-stepped it!  To be honest, I don't know.  I can't think of anything
that would make me *want* to help more, because I *want* to help anyway
- - I'm just restricted by available time between work, family and
personal projects.  I'm conscious that my contributions are public and
open to peer review, which can be a double-edged sword, so I try to make
pretty sure that what I'm saying is accurate and correct before I submit
it.  But I don't think the question of my personal QA is what you're
digging at here.

At LUG Radio Live 2008, Ben Thorp gave a talk titled Supporting World
Domination, where he talked about a system of live support, provided by
the community.  Chat channels and remote desktops were discussed.  Jon
Spriggs was involved in the discussion as well.  We hashed together a
very high-level idea for a technical solution to supporting users,
providing a Live Help function or similar which would allow users to
talk (more accurately, type) to someone knowledgeable to get
assistance.  I think we came up with a way of making sure that we didn't
end up with just any old Tom, Dick or Harry on the other end and we
talked about forwarding VNC over XMPP or similar.  If we could work out
the potential difficulties, that could be a phenomenal resource.

Or how about bringing Launchpad Answers to the desktop?  An applet that
pops up an indicator periodically inviting me to answer a question.  I
dunno if we could hook it into popcon or something to filter the
questions to those related to my more frequently-used applications?
Does launchpadlib hook into Answers?

Of course, it doesn't have to be a technical solution - LUGs are a great
way to get face-to-face help.  Sadly, my LUG isn't particularly active
though.

Has that sparked anything in anyone?

JT
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